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6th Apr '18 3:06:59 PM Gamermaster
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* In ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', it seems that the higher you climb the Space/Time Administration Bureau's ladder, the more you shift from LawfulGood to Lawful Neutral. For example, [[spoiler:the Bureau founders]] have become so obsessed with keeping the peace that the Combat Mages under them are little more than convenient tools to be used and discarded as necessary for this goal.

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* In ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', it seems that the higher you climb the Space/Time Administration Bureau's ladder, the more you shift from LawfulGood to Lawful Neutral. For example, [[spoiler:the Bureau founders]] have become so obsessed with keeping the peace that the Combat Mages under them are little more than convenient tools to be used and discarded as necessary for this goal.
22nd Mar '18 9:39:06 PM nombretomado
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* Dwight Schrute from TheOffice tends to dance across the character alignment spectrum in terms of his methods, but his ultimate goal is to have complete control over the branch. He makes it no secret that he doesn't care about popularity, yet he'll defend the people who mock him out of a sense of duty.

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* Dwight Schrute from TheOffice ''Series/{{The Office|US}}'' tends to dance across the character alignment spectrum in terms of his methods, but his ultimate goal is to have complete control over the branch. He makes it no secret that he doesn't care about popularity, yet he'll defend the people who mock him out of a sense of duty.
9th Mar '18 12:16:25 PM EDP
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* The ComicBook/DisneyDucksComicUniverse parody of ''Literature/LesMiserables'' has, of course, Javert, who they manage to bring UpToEleven: [[spoiler:when he finally catches Scrooge Valjean, he simply tells him he spent the last five years chasing him because ''Valjean had been pardoned and he, as the officer on the case, was to tell him'', congratulates for the newfound freedom, and calmly walks away]], without showing any feeling but satisfaction in having finally completed his job after over a decade.
26th Feb '18 5:50:08 PM nombretomado
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* Saitou Hajime in ''Manga/RurouniKenshin''. Once a Bakufu loyalist in TheShinsengumi, after the Meiji victory in the Meiji Revolution, he goes to work for the Meiji government as an agent and policeman so long as he can dispense his strict code of justice: Slay Evil Immediately. His alignment is best illustrated by one portion of the manga where Senkaku, an EliteMook, is unconscious and a kid whose entire family was killed by Senkaku is going to kill him. Saitou coldly informs the kid that revenge killings are illegal, so if the kid does it, Saitou will arrest him too. Saitou then "reassures" the kid by telling him that Senkaku will probably be executed and tortured for information first, which would be much worse for him than dying painlessly. Major case of GoodIsNotNice, and that's without mentioning his JerkAss tendencies towards supporting characters.

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* Saitou Hajime in ''Manga/RurouniKenshin''. Once a Bakufu loyalist in TheShinsengumi, UsefulNotes/TheShinsengumi, after the Meiji victory in the Meiji Revolution, he goes to work for the Meiji government as an agent and policeman so long as he can dispense his strict code of justice: Slay Evil Immediately. His alignment is best illustrated by one portion of the manga where Senkaku, an EliteMook, is unconscious and a kid whose entire family was killed by Senkaku is going to kill him. Saitou coldly informs the kid that revenge killings are illegal, so if the kid does it, Saitou will arrest him too. Saitou then "reassures" the kid by telling him that Senkaku will probably be executed and tortured for information first, which would be much worse for him than dying painlessly. Major case of GoodIsNotNice, and that's without mentioning his JerkAss tendencies towards supporting characters.
26th Feb '18 10:56:57 AM EDP
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* Moses, the watchdog of McKenzie Farm from ComicBook/LupoAlberto. He is determined to keep the protagonist out of the farm and to make his inhabitants work with order and discipline. He may also appear as LawfulEvil when he enjoys giving Alberto a brutal beating. It should be noted he is much more affable when off-duty.

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* Moses, the watchdog of McKenzie Farm from ComicBook/LupoAlberto.''Lupo Alberto''. He is determined to keep the protagonist out of the farm and to make his inhabitants work with order and discipline. He may also appear as LawfulEvil when he enjoys giving Alberto a brutal beating. It should be noted he is much more affable when off-duty.off-duty, and that Alberto is a ''wolf'' that candidly admits to eat chicken, even when [[CrackPairing his girlfriend is a hen herself]] (and has once tried to eat her best friend).
28th Jan '18 8:16:34 PM nombretomado
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* Many authority figures onscreen will fall into this if they aren't full-blown heels. Being good at their job means impartiality on their part, so they can't exactly play favorite for the face or the heel. Thus, if either side has a legit case, they have to rule in that person's favor regardless of that person's own alignment. Examples include Teddy Long, MickFoley as Commissioner, and the anonymous GM of ''Raw'' [[spoiler:(who turned out to be Wrestling/{{Hornswoggle}})]].

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* Many authority figures onscreen will fall into this if they aren't full-blown heels. Being good at their job means impartiality on their part, so they can't exactly play favorite for the face or the heel. Thus, if either side has a legit case, they have to rule in that person's favor regardless of that person's own alignment. Examples include Teddy Long, MickFoley Wrestling/MickFoley as Commissioner, and the anonymous GM of ''Raw'' [[spoiler:(who turned out to be Wrestling/{{Hornswoggle}})]].
4th Jan '18 9:40:32 AM RoninMacbeth
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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer'': The Lizardmen. They are some of the foremost creations of the Old Ones, and as such are guardians of their Plans. If they attack you, it's not because they dislike you (they're quite literally incapable of malice), but it's because you are a threat to the Old Ones' Plan in some way.

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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer'': ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'': The Lizardmen. They are some of the foremost creations of the Old Ones, and as such are guardians of their Plans. If they attack you, it's not because they dislike you (they're quite literally incapable of malice), but it's because you are a threat to the Old Ones' Plan in some way.
4th Jan '18 9:38:48 AM RoninMacbeth
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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer'': The Lizardmen. They are some of the foremost creations of the Old Ones, and as such are guardians of their Plans. If they attack you, it's not because they dislike you (they're quite literally incapable of malice), but it's because you are a threat to the Old Ones' Plan in some way.
29th Nov '17 7:05:25 PM MagBas
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* One philosophy of LN is spelled out by Jacen "Darth Caedus" Solo in the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse novel ''Sacrifice''. Essentially, it boiled down to "Palpatine was the good guy throughout the Rebellion, because he came to power through democratic means. The fact that he turned out to be a mass-murdering psychopath hell-bent on the enslavement of all non-human species and crushing the galaxy in a durasteel fist for the rest of eternity doesn't really come into it, because legally he was supposed to be in charge." [[IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance Of course]], this overlooks that he ''actually'' came to power through some very ''illegal'' means- his rise to power is littered with the bodies of [[RemovingTheRival political rivals]], {{Unwitting Pawn}}s, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness disposable allies and minions]] and ''everyone'' who died in the Clone Wars, a conflict he secretly engineered, never mind using said war as an excuse to ignore the constitution and remain in power past his legal tenure. He was ''always'' a mass-murdering psychopath even before he became Chancellor (let alone Emperor) and his rise to power owed a great deal to numerous un-democratic and outright criminal measures he took to get there, so Jacens' [[InsaneTrollLogic already highly dubious]] argument doesn't even fit the actual facts anyway.

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* One philosophy of LN is spelled out by Jacen "Darth Caedus" Solo in the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse novel ''Sacrifice''. Essentially, it boiled down to "Palpatine was the good guy throughout the Rebellion, because he came to power through democratic means. The fact that he turned out to be a mass-murdering psychopath hell-bent on the enslavement of all non-human species and crushing the galaxy in a durasteel fist for the rest of eternity doesn't really come into it, because legally he was supposed to be in charge." [[IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance Of course]], this overlooks that he ''actually'' came to power through some very ''illegal'' means- his rise to power is littered with the bodies of [[RemovingTheRival political rivals]], {{Unwitting Pawn}}s, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness disposable allies and minions]] and ''everyone'' who died in the Clone Wars, a conflict he secretly engineered, never mind using said war as an excuse to ignore the constitution and remain in power past his legal tenure. He was ''always'' a mass-murdering psychopath even before he became Chancellor (let alone Emperor) and his rise to power owed a great deal to numerous un-democratic and outright criminal measures he took to get there, so Jacens' [[InsaneTrollLogic already highly dubious]] argument doesn't even fit the actual facts anyway.
27th Nov '17 3:44:05 PM Dragon101
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* One philosophy of LN is spelled out by Jacen "Darth Caedus" Solo in the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse novel ''Sacrifice''. Essentially, it boiled down to "Palpatine was the good guy throughout the Rebellion, because he came to power through democratic means. The fact that he turned out to be a mass-murdering psychopath hell-bent on the enslavement of all non-human species and crushing the galaxy in a durasteel fist for the rest of eternity doesn't really come into it, because legally he was supposed to be in charge." [[IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance Of course], this overlooks that he ''actually'' came to power through some very ''illegal'' means- his rise to power is littered with the bodies of [[RemovingTheRival political rivals]], {{Unwitting Pawn}}s, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness disposable allies and minions]] and ''everyone'' who died in the Clone Wars, a conflict he secretly engineered, never mind using said war as an excuse to ignore the constitution and remain in power past his legal tenure. He was ''always'' a mass-murdering psychopath even before he became Chancellor (let alone Emperor) and his rise to power owed a great deal to numerous un-democratic and outright criminal measures he took to get there, so Jacens' [[InsaneTrollLogic already highly dubious]] argument doesn't even fit the actual facts anyway.

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* One philosophy of LN is spelled out by Jacen "Darth Caedus" Solo in the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse novel ''Sacrifice''. Essentially, it boiled down to "Palpatine was the good guy throughout the Rebellion, because he came to power through democratic means. The fact that he turned out to be a mass-murdering psychopath hell-bent on the enslavement of all non-human species and crushing the galaxy in a durasteel fist for the rest of eternity doesn't really come into it, because legally he was supposed to be in charge." [[IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance Of course], course]], this overlooks that he ''actually'' came to power through some very ''illegal'' means- his rise to power is littered with the bodies of [[RemovingTheRival political rivals]], {{Unwitting Pawn}}s, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness disposable allies and minions]] and ''everyone'' who died in the Clone Wars, a conflict he secretly engineered, never mind using said war as an excuse to ignore the constitution and remain in power past his legal tenure. He was ''always'' a mass-murdering psychopath even before he became Chancellor (let alone Emperor) and his rise to power owed a great deal to numerous un-democratic and outright criminal measures he took to get there, so Jacens' [[InsaneTrollLogic already highly dubious]] argument doesn't even fit the actual facts anyway.
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