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25th Jun '16 9:37:38 PM nombretomado
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* ''BaldursGate''
** Anomen in ''[[BaldursGate Baldur's Gate II]]'' starts out as a particularly JerkAss version (and this isn't FanWank; since it's a [=DnD=] game, we actually ''know'' his alignment). He even begrudges the coins ''you'' (i.e. not him) give to beggars on the street, since it's encouraging them to avoid working for a living. CharacterDevelopment ''can'' send him to LawfulGood later, though.
** Balthazar in ''[[ExpansionPack BG II: Throne of Bhaal]]'' is indicated as Lawful Neutral by his game file. (There was also a WordOfGod statement somewhere on the internet that assumed he was LawfulGood, which would work about equally well.) He's a monk -- an inherently disciplined Lawful CharacterClass -- and one of the Five, powerful Bhaalspawn who are trying to kill all the other numerous children of Bhaal in order to let the evil god rise again and be rewarded with demigod status. However, Balthazar is only pretending to be on their side, and he actually sees it as his [[ShootTheDog duty]] to kill all Bhaalspawn to prevent Bhaal ever returning. He takes this seriously; "all" means himself as well after all the others are gone.

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* ''BaldursGate''
''Franchise/BaldursGate''
** Anomen in ''[[BaldursGate Baldur's Gate II]]'' ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII'' starts out as a particularly JerkAss version (and this isn't FanWank; since it's a [=DnD=] game, we actually ''know'' his alignment). He even begrudges the coins ''you'' (i.e. not him) give to beggars on the street, since it's encouraging them to avoid working for a living. CharacterDevelopment ''can'' send him to LawfulGood later, though.
** Balthazar in ''[[ExpansionPack BG II: Throne of Bhaal]]'' ''VideoGame/BaldursGateIIThroneOfBhaal'' is indicated as Lawful Neutral by his game file. (There was also a WordOfGod statement somewhere on the internet that assumed he was LawfulGood, which would work about equally well.) He's a monk -- an inherently disciplined Lawful CharacterClass -- and one of the Five, powerful Bhaalspawn who are trying to kill all the other numerous children of Bhaal in order to let the evil god rise again and be rewarded with demigod status. However, Balthazar is only pretending to be on their side, and he actually sees it as his [[ShootTheDog duty]] to kill all Bhaalspawn to prevent Bhaal ever returning. He takes this seriously; "all" means himself as well after all the others are gone.
21st Jun '16 8:22:27 AM longWriter
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* The GrammarNazi, unless they're trying to be [[DisproportionateRetribution hurtful]] or [[StopHelpingMe genuinely helpful]].

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* The GrammarNazi, unless they're trying to be [[DisproportionateRetribution hurtful]] or [[StopHelpingMe [[UnwantedAssistance genuinely helpful]].
18th Jun '16 11:47:06 PM nombretomado
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* ''LegendOfTheFiveRings'': This is pretty much a requirement for Rokugani citizenship. Even the {{Yakuza}} have a LawfulNeutral mindset! (Lawful as in being loyal to their parent clan, that is.)

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* ''LegendOfTheFiveRings'': ''TabletopGame/LegendOfTheFiveRings'': This is pretty much a requirement for Rokugani citizenship. Even the {{Yakuza}} have a LawfulNeutral mindset! (Lawful as in being loyal to their parent clan, that is.)
11th Jun '16 6:38:50 PM Yalsaris63
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** The Mojave chapter of the Brotherhood takes this to extreme levels. Here, their adherence to the codex is actually causing their own downfall, spending just about the entire game in a lockdown which in itself isn't doing much to improve the morale within the chapter. Even after Veronica, the chapter's [[OnlySaneMan voice of reason]], proves that the chapter's actions are wrong, they still remain in their bunker. While they can eventually be convinced to remove the lockdown and re-emerge into the wasteland, their initially overly cautious attitude is not exactly helping them in any way, as several members note during the course of the game, and depending on whether or not the NCR (the faction that they fear the most) are around, they'll proceed to become essentially tech raiders.

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** The Mojave chapter of the Brotherhood in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' takes this to extreme levels. Here, their adherence to the codex is actually causing their own downfall, spending just about the entire game in a lockdown which in itself isn't doing much to improve the morale within the chapter. Even after Veronica, the chapter's [[OnlySaneMan voice of reason]], proves that the chapter's actions are wrong, they still remain in their bunker. While they can eventually be convinced to remove the lockdown and re-emerge into the wasteland, their initially overly cautious attitude is not exactly helping them in any way, as several members note during the course of the game, and depending on whether or not the NCR (the faction that they fear the most) are around, they'll proceed to become essentially tech raiders.
8th Jun '16 5:07:58 PM Materioptikon
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** Or the Brigadier. Nice chap on the whole, willing to make a HeroicSacrifice. But when ordered, he'll '''[[ShootTheDog blow the dog's brain's out]]''', which the Silurians found out the hard way.

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** Or the Brigadier. Nice chap on the whole, willing to make a HeroicSacrifice. But when ordered, he'll '''[[ShootTheDog blow the dog's brain's brains out]]''', which the Silurians found out the hard way.
8th Jun '16 5:07:30 PM Materioptikon
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* The Judoon in ''Series/DoctorWho'' and ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures''. Especially in ''The Sarah Jane Adventures'' story ''Prisoner of the Judoon'', where a RunningGag is that while they don't worry very much about executing humans for getting the way in the pursuit of their duty, they won't run a red light, park illegally, or open a door marked "Authorised Personnel Only". On the opposing side, when shit is about to get real for all of reality in the ''Doctor Who'' episode "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E12ThePandoricaOpens The Pandorica Opens]]", [[spoiler:they're all too willing to work alongside a LegionOfDoom (which is obviously evil) consisting of '''[[AlwaysChaoticEvil Daleks, Cybermen, and Sontarans]]''' (among others) in a failing attempt to prevent a crack-induced universal collapse courtesy of an exploding TARDIS]].

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* The Judoon in ''Series/DoctorWho'' and ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures''. Especially in ''The Sarah Jane Adventures'' story ''Prisoner of the Judoon'', where a RunningGag is that while they don't worry very much about executing humans for getting the way in the pursuit of their duty, they won't run a red light, park illegally, or open a door marked "Authorised Personnel Only". On the opposing side, when shit is about to get real for all of reality in the ''Doctor Who'' episode "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E12ThePandoricaOpens The Pandorica Opens]]", [[spoiler:they're all too willing to work alongside a LegionOfDoom (which is obviously evil) consisting of '''[[AlwaysChaoticEvil Daleks, Cybermen, '''[[OmnicidalManiac Daleks]], [[MechanisticAlienCulture Cybermen]], and [[BloodKnight Sontarans]]''' (among others) in a failing attempt to prevent a crack-induced universal collapse courtesy of an exploding TARDIS]].
2nd Jun '16 2:10:56 PM JustRichard
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* Michael Ermentraut of ''Series/BreakingBad'' and ''Series/BetterCallSaul'' is arguably this. He is an Anti-Villain who worked for a meth dealer but who stuck rigidly to certain principles, such as never taking on too dark a job or not stealing money when it wasn't a part of his contract. His devotion to his grandaughter and daughter in law also suggests a man who is not of evil alignment, though his job working for a meth dealer doesn't make him good either.

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* Michael Ermentraut of ''Series/BreakingBad'' and ''Series/BetterCallSaul'' is arguably this. He is an Anti-Villain a synpathetic PunchClockVillain who worked for a meth dealer but who stuck rigidly to certain principles, such as never taking on too dark a job or not stealing money when it wasn't a part of his contract. His devotion to his grandaughter and daughter in law also suggests a man who is not of evil alignment, though his job working for a meth dealer doesn't make him good either.
2nd Jun '16 2:03:17 PM JustRichard
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* Michael Ermentraut of ''Series/BreakingBad'' and ''Series/BetterCallSaul'' is arguably this. He is an Anti-Villain who worked for a meth dealer but who stuck rigidly to certain principles, such as never taking on too dark a job or not stealing money when it wasn't a part of his contract. His devotion to his grandaughter and daughter in law also suggests a man who is not of evil alignment, though his job working for a meth dealer doesn't make him good either.
15th May '16 11:23:26 PM nombretomado
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** However, most adaptations, following on from the characterisation of the MarvelCinematicUniverse version place him squarely in ChaoticGood territory.

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** However, most adaptations, following on from the characterisation of the MarvelCinematicUniverse Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse version place him squarely in ChaoticGood territory.
9th May '16 11:25:08 PM erforce
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* T-800 is this in the first {{Terminator}} film, as a cyborg programmed to solely complete the mission given by his Skynet superior. He is this in the second film, too, still as a cyborg programmed by the human resistance to protect a human boy targeted by the Skynet, at least until the Conners reset his processor chip to write new instructions based on his experience, making him LawfulGood.

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* T-800 is this in the first {{Terminator}} [[Film/TheTerminator first]] ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' film, as a cyborg programmed to solely complete the mission given by his Skynet superior. He is this in the [[Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay second film, film]], too, still as a cyborg programmed by the human resistance to protect a human boy targeted by the Skynet, at least until the Conners reset his processor chip to write new instructions based on his experience, making him LawfulGood.



* Jim Malone (Connery) in The Untouchables (1987) "Because I swore to uphold the law. . .".
* Sir Thomas More as portrayed in ''AManForAllSeasons''. He believes that the law must be followed even if evil people can take advantage of it, and that if you break the law to fight evil, then the law can also be broken to fight good... In his words, "Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!"

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* Jim Malone (Connery) in The Untouchables ''Film/TheUntouchables'' (1987) "Because I swore to uphold the law. . .".
* Sir Thomas More as portrayed in ''AManForAllSeasons''.''Film/AManForAllSeasons''. He believes that the law must be followed even if evil people can take advantage of it, and that if you break the law to fight evil, then the law can also be broken to fight good... In his words, "Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!"
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