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30th Sep '16 12:26:00 AM Nintendoman01
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** Majin Buu provides different takes on this. Fat Buu genuinely doesn't know any better due to his childlike demeanor and gradually learns empathy through Mr.Satan and Bee, while Kid Buu is simply too mindless to comprehend ''anything'' other than destruction. Super Buu, on the other hand, is sentient enough to know that he's inflicting harm on others and evil enough to not care and enjoy it anyway.

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** Majin Buu provides different takes on this. Fat Buu genuinely doesn't know any better due to his childlike demeanor and gradually learns empathy through Mr. Satan and Bee, while Kid Buu is simply too mindless to comprehend ''anything'' other than destruction. Super Buu, on the other hand, is sentient enough to know that he's inflicting harm on others and evil enough to not care and enjoy it anyway.
** Zamasu, the [[FallenAngel corrupt Supreme Kai of Universe 10]] in ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'', has no empathy for mortals, viewing them as AlwaysChaoticEvil. In Episode 59, when Goku reveals to him that [[spoiler: his counterpart from Trunks' BadFuture caused all sorts of devastation]], rather than be shocked or remorseful, he's ''delighted'' to discover his dream had become a reality. He also [[spoiler: has no qualms against trying to kill his own master to further his goals.]]
29th Sep '16 4:28:02 AM CRay
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* Tohsaka Tokiomi of ''LightNovel/FateZero''. Dear god, Tokiomi. The man gives up his younger daughter to a FateWorseThanDeath for the sake of making her an "equal" to her elder sister. And he seems to be genuinely surprised that Kariya disagrees with him over it, his response being more or less "are you seriously asking me such a pointless question?" Kariya calls him an "unfeeling magus" and "inhuman monster". Later subverted though, as Tokiomi did not actually know what kind of "training" Sakura would have to go through and that he gave her to the Matou family to prevent the Association from bestowing a [[FateWorseThanDeath Sealing Designation on her]] (which in turn was something Kariya wasn't aware of). Tokiomi loved Sakura, as much as a "true" magus is capable of loving someone.

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* Tohsaka Tokiomi of ''LightNovel/FateZero''. Dear god, Tokiomi. The man gives up his younger daughter to a FateWorseThanDeath for the sake of making her an "equal" to her elder sister. And he seems to be He also is genuinely surprised that Kariya disagrees with him over it, his response being more or less "are you seriously asking me such a pointless question?" Kariya calls him an "unfeeling magus" and "inhuman monster". Later subverted in the Light Novel though, as Tokiomi did not actually know what kind of "training" Sakura would have to go through and that he gave her to the Matou family to prevent the Association from bestowing a [[FateWorseThanDeath Sealing Designation on her]] (which in turn was something Kariya wasn't aware of). Tokiomi loved Sakura, as much as a "true" magus is capable of loving someone.



** Sanji hails from a family of [[spoiler: assassins in the North Blue, the Germa 66. His family, notably his father and his three genetically modified brothers, treated him like trash for being a normal (weak) human and use their army as [[HumanShield meat shields]] without a care in the world. Sanji's mother and sister, who was also modified, on the other hand show compassion and empathy and it was eventually Reiju's sister who helped Sanji escape from his family.]]

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** Sanji hails from a family of [[spoiler: assassins in the North Blue, the Germa 66. His family, notably his father and his three genetically modified brothers, treated him like trash for being a normal (weak) human and use their army as [[HumanShield meat shields]] without a care in the world. Sanji's mother and sister, who was also modified, on the other hand show compassion and empathy and it was eventually Reiju's sister Sanji's sister, Reiju, who helped Sanji escape from his family.]]
29th Sep '16 4:19:42 AM CRay
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* Tohsaka Tokiomi of ''LightNovel/FateZero''. Dear god, Tokiomi. The man gives up his younger daughter to a FateWorseThanDeath for the sake of making her an "equal" to her elder sister. And he seems to be genuinely surprised that Kariya disagrees with him over it, his response being more or less "are you seriously asking me such a pointless question?" Kariya calls him an "unfeeling magus" and "inhuman monster"... and arguably, he's not wrong.

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* Tohsaka Tokiomi of ''LightNovel/FateZero''. Dear god, Tokiomi. The man gives up his younger daughter to a FateWorseThanDeath for the sake of making her an "equal" to her elder sister. And he seems to be genuinely surprised that Kariya disagrees with him over it, his response being more or less "are you seriously asking me such a pointless question?" Kariya calls him an "unfeeling magus" and "inhuman monster"... monster". Later subverted though, as Tokiomi did not actually know what kind of "training" Sakura would have to go through and arguably, he's not wrong.that he gave her to the Matou family to prevent the Association from bestowing a [[FateWorseThanDeath Sealing Designation on her]] (which in turn was something Kariya wasn't aware of). Tokiomi loved Sakura, as much as a "true" magus is capable of loving someone.


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** Sanji hails from a family of [[spoiler: assassins in the North Blue, the Germa 66. His family, notably his father and his three genetically modified brothers, treated him like trash for being a normal (weak) human and use their army as [[HumanShield meat shields]] without a care in the world. Sanji's mother and sister, who was also modified, on the other hand show compassion and empathy and it was eventually Reiju's sister who helped Sanji escape from his family.]]
28th Sep '16 12:30:50 PM LinTaylor
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* In ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'', after Piccolo destroys Dr. Gero[=/=]Android #20's right arm.
-->'''Dr. Gero:''' You miserable reprobates! What have I ever done to you?!\\
'''Piccolo:''' ...Pretty sure you vaporized half a city.\\
'''Dr. Gero:''' I meant ''recently''!\\
'''Piccolo:''' That was an ''hour'' ago.\\
'''Dr. Gero:''' Semantics!\\
24th Sep '16 5:44:35 PM nombretomado
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* Wizard from ''DeathBattle'': He's often incredulous at a fighter's {{backstory}}, especially if they do something that avoids gaining power, like [[{{Anime/Pokemon}} Pikachu]]'s refusal to evolve via Thunder Stone.

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* Wizard from ''DeathBattle'': ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'': He's often incredulous at a fighter's {{backstory}}, especially if they do something that avoids gaining power, like [[{{Anime/Pokemon}} Pikachu]]'s refusal to evolve via Thunder Stone.
16th Sep '16 1:42:55 AM KEEP_IN
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* Kazuo Kiriyama from the ''Manga/BattleRoyale'' manga. He's revealed to actually ''physically'' be unable to feel empathy, as he got in an accident when he was young and apparently lost all of his emotions. From the way this is presented, quite a few people consider this completely {{Narm}}y. There are some effective moments, though - at one point he chooses to let some kids befriend him on the results of a coin flip; on the island, he flips a coin again (at their urging), and when they lose the flip he slaughters them without a second's hesitation.

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* Kazuo Kiriyama from the ''Manga/BattleRoyale'' manga. He's revealed to actually ''physically'' be unable to feel empathy, as he got in an a car accident that damaged his brain when he was young and apparently lost all of his emotions. From the way this is presented, quite a few people consider this completely {{Narm}}y. There are some effective moments, though - at one point he chooses to let some kids befriend him on the results of a coin flip; on the island, he flips a coin again (at their urging), and when they lose the flip he slaughters them without a second's hesitation.
18th Aug '16 2:43:06 AM Nintendoman01
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* Various ghouls in ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'' have this mind set but Torso is a notable example. His diary reveals that he is unable to comprehend or relate to others, and has the sense something is wrong with him. His diary depicts him as thinking of humans as nothing but automated dolls crammed with meat and has no problem with mutilating woman that he [[ALoveToDismember takes as his lovers]].

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Various ghouls in ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'' have this mind set but Torso is a notable example. His diary reveals that he is unable to comprehend or relate to others, and has the sense something is wrong with him. His diary depicts him as thinking of humans as nothing but automated dolls crammed with meat and has no problem with mutilating woman that he [[ALoveToDismember takes as his lovers]].lovers]].
** Kureo Mado, the [[TheHunter CCG's]] personal KnightTemplar, has absolutely ''nothing'' but contempt and disgust for all Ghouls no matter what, rubbing in Hinami's face about how he killed her parents and turned their remains into his Quinques, and openly expressing disgust at how Ghouls "imitate" human feelings like maternal love and compassion. Case in point: after Touka gives him a heartfelt speech about how she just wants to live like he does and points out that she only eats humans because she can't survive on anything else, Mado is completely unmoved and tells her point-blank that he can't bear to hear another word out of her mouth.



** Excellus, the SmugSnake tactician of Walhart's army, tells Say'ri that her brother Yen'fay [[spoiler: only joined up with Walhart to protect her]] ''after'' she killed him, and pretty much ''laughs in Say'ri's face'' as the latter has a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment.

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** Excellus, the SmugSnake tactician of Walhart's army, tells Say'ri that her brother Yen'fay [[spoiler: only joined up with Walhart to protect her]] ''after'' she killed him, and pretty much ''laughs in Say'ri's face'' as the latter has a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment. He even admits that he told her the AwfulTruth purely to see the look of horror on her face.


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* ''WesternAnimation/BobsBurgers'': Louise admits at one point that she doesn't understand emotions such as empathy, and when she realizes she feels sorry for her father Bob, she outright questions her own sanity.
15th Aug '16 9:23:46 AM I_love_dragons
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On the flip side, just because a character has empathy does not mean that they possess one ounce of compassion or sympathy, though the lack of either usually coincides with at least a diminished sense of empathy. For instance, someone with {{narcissist}}ic or [[TheSociopath anti-social personality disorder]] should not be confused with someone with [[UsefulNotes/AspergersSyndrome Aspergers]] or another form of autism. Narcissists and sociopaths usually have perfect cognitive empathy, but utterly lack affective empathy necessary for genuine compassion. On the other hand, those with Aspergers or Autism sometimes have defective cognitive empathy, but normal or even hyper-effective emotional or compassionate empathy. In short: [[{{Narcissist}} narcissists]] and [[TheSociopath sociopaths]] are generally superficially charming and polite but their pretense of empathy is simply that, a mere ruse to attain a tangible end, whereas autistics, on the other hand, are more or less an {{inver|tedTrope}}sion of that: perfectly capable of feeling other people's triumphs and tribulations -- [[HotBlooded often quite intensely]] -- but you wouldn't necessarily know it from their face or tone of voice, and thatís assuming they have learned to identify them.)

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On the flip side, just because a character has empathy does not mean that they possess one ounce of compassion or sympathy, though the lack of either usually coincides with at least a diminished sense of empathy. For instance, someone with {{narcissist}}ic or [[TheSociopath anti-social personality disorder]] should not be confused with someone with [[UsefulNotes/AspergersSyndrome Aspergers]] or another form of autism. Narcissists and sociopaths usually have perfect cognitive empathy, but utterly lack affective empathy necessary for genuine compassion. On the other hand, those with Aspergers or Autism sometimes have defective cognitive empathy, but normal or even hyper-effective emotional or compassionate empathy. In short: [[{{Narcissist}} narcissists]] and [[TheSociopath sociopaths]] are generally superficially charming and polite but their pretense of empathy is simply that, a mere ruse to attain a tangible end, whereas autistics, on the other hand, are more or less an {{inver|tedTrope}}sion of that: perfectly capable of feeling other people's triumphs and tribulations -- [[HotBlooded often quite intensely]] -- but you wouldn't necessarily know it from their face or tone of voice, and thatís assuming they have learned to identify them.)
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1st Aug '16 6:43:15 PM MagentaFantasies
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* Although portrayed more sympathetically than many examples, due to having NoSocialSkills and a history of being betrayed by humans, Akai Tsubasa/Phoenix from KaitouJoker is this. He doesn't understand other character's emotions and relationships, in particular being confused by Joker's friendship/rivalry with Queen and Spade and angering two guards to the point that they take him prisoner (without Akai realizing he even ''is'' a prisoner.) Akai doesn't express any concern when other characters are in danger (eg. when Joker is injured and being chased by a hungry shark; when Joker and his friends are shrunken and imprisoned in a cage) and even taunts and laughs at them. Unlike Joker, Akai doesn't seem to value life, leaving Hachi and the other phantom thief assistants to be impaled in a trap, threatening to feed a shipful of people to a giant squid, and cheerfully wrapping Joker in an anchor and throwing him into the ocean, along with Akai's former companion Hosshi.

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* Although portrayed more sympathetically than many examples, due to having NoSocialSkills and a history of being betrayed by humans, Akai Tsubasa/Phoenix from KaitouJoker Anime/KaitouJoker is this. He doesn't understand other character's emotions and relationships, in particular being confused by Joker's friendship/rivalry with Queen and Spade and angering two guards to the point that they take him prisoner (without Akai realizing he even ''is'' a prisoner.) Akai doesn't express any concern when other characters are in danger (eg. when Joker is injured and being chased by a hungry shark; when Joker and his friends are shrunken and imprisoned in a cage) and even taunts and laughs at them. Unlike Joker, Akai doesn't seem to value life, leaving Hachi and the other phantom thief assistants to be impaled in a trap, threatening to feed a shipful of people to a giant squid, and cheerfully wrapping Joker in an anchor and throwing him into the ocean, along with Akai's former companion Hosshi.
1st Aug '16 6:37:05 PM MagentaFantasies
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* Although portrayed more sympathetically than many examples, due to having NoSocialSkills and a history of being betrayed by humans, Akai Tsubasa/Phoenix from KaitouJoker is this. He doesn't understand other character's emotions and relationships, in particular being confused by Joker's friendship/rivalry with Queen and Spade and angering two guards to the point that they take him prisoner (without Akai realizing he even ''is'' a prisoner.) Akai doesn't express any concern when other characters are in danger (eg. when Joker is injured and being chased by a hungry shark; when Joker and his friends are shrunken and imprisoned in a cage) and even taunts and laughs at them. Unlike Joker, Akai doesn't seem to value life, leaving Hachi and the other phantom thief assistants to be impaled in a trap, threatening to feed a shipful of people to a giant squid, and cheerfully wrapping Joker in an anchor and throwing him into the ocean, along with Akai's former companion Hosshi.
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