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26th Sep '16 8:47:33 AM GlassRain
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* ''Webcomic/DemonHunterKain'': Kain's abilities include conjuring a Tanto out of thin air, and upgrading it into a katana.
30th Aug '16 6:44:35 AM REV6Pilot
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* Enforced and deconstructed during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. Japanese officers originally carried ''kyū-guntō'' ("old military sword" in Japanese), which resembled Western cavalry sabers, until a nationalist movement demanded a more traditional katana shape. Most of the resulting katanas, called ''shin-guntō'' ("new military sword") were simply mass-produced pieces of machined steel with an edge ground into them. The swords also made it easy [[StraightForTheCommander for enemy soldiers to spot officers from a distance]]. As an actual melee weapon during bayonet charges, the swords had mixed results. At the beginning of the war allied soldiers obviously weren't expected to get into sword fights and had no idea what to do against them. Later in the war when the allied troops did receive training, katanas weren't particularly effective against bayonet-equipped rifles like the M-1.

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* Enforced and deconstructed during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. Japanese officers originally carried ''kyū-guntō'' ("old military sword" in Japanese), which resembled Western cavalry sabers, until a nationalist movement demanded a more traditional katana shape. Most of the resulting katanas, called ''shin-guntō'' ("new military sword") were simply mass-produced pieces of machined steel with an edge ground into them. The swords also made it easy easy for enemy soldiers [[StraightForTheCommander for enemy soldiers to spot (and snipe) Japanese officers from a distance]]. As an actual melee weapon during bayonet charges, the swords had mixed results. At the beginning of the war allied Allied soldiers obviously weren't expected to get into sword fights and had no idea what to do against them. Later in the war when the allied Allied troops did receive training, training to counter, katanas weren't particularly effective against bayonet-equipped rifles like the M-1.M1 Garand.
14th Aug '16 12:43:42 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''Franchise/{{Halo 3}}'' rewards a player with a non-usable katana for attaining a 1,000 gamerscore.

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* ''Franchise/{{Halo ''VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'' rewards a player with a non-usable katana for attaining a 1,000 gamerscore.
11th Aug '16 2:52:07 PM siberia82
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** In ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'', Wade Wilson jokes with his mutant comrades that his katana are far more "memorable" than guns. He is shown to be [[ParryingBulletscapable of parrying fully automatic fire]] from multiple opponents with them, occasionally [[SpinToDeflectStuff deflecting bullets]] at enemies. The blades, of course, are completely undamaged. Though not out-right stated, its apparently a aspect of whatever mutant power he had that lead to him being recruited onto Team X.
** In ''Film/TheWolverine'', the way they are supposed to be brandished becomes a ChekhovsGun.

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** In ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'', ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'': Wade Wilson jokes with his mutant comrades that his katana are far more "memorable" than guns. He is shown to be [[ParryingBulletscapable [[ParryingBullets capable of parrying fully automatic fire]] from multiple opponents with them, occasionally [[SpinToDeflectStuff deflecting bullets]] at enemies. The blades, of course, are completely undamaged. Though Although not out-right stated, its it's apparently a an aspect of whatever mutant power he had that lead led to him being recruited onto into Team X.
** In ''Film/TheWolverine'', the ''Film/TheWolverine'': The way they are supposed to be brandished becomes a ChekhovsGun.ChekhovsGun.
** ''Film/XMenApocalypse'': Psylocke prefers to harm her enemies with a katana and a psionic blade.
10th Aug '16 9:48:05 PM CaptainCrawdad
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Curiously, a certain amount of HypeBacklash has hit the katana on the internet, leading to some people believing the inverse of this trope: that the katana is an inheirently ''worse'' sword than the others, which is just as fallacious as thinking that they are magical superweapons.
10th Aug '16 8:37:23 PM TheBigBopper
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Don't tell that to fiction writers, though, because the katana has a certain mystique that lends itself to exaggeration. A katana in fiction (and on film, EveryJapaneseSwordIsAKatana) can [[AbsurdlySharpBlade slice through anything]] as if it were butter. Further, merely wielding a katana makes one a superhuman fighter. A skilled fictional katana wielder can do implausible things like [[ParryingBullets slice bullets in mid air]], [[ImplausibleFencingPowers chop gun barrels off and even slice other swords not as cool as the katana off at the hilt]]. The katana wielder him/herself will also be considerably more agile and skilled than any other weapon wielder. If on the enemy side, expect a katana wielder to at least be an {{Elite Mook|s}}, if not a BigBad or TheDragon.

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Don't tell that to fiction writers, though, because the katana has a certain mystique that lends itself to exaggeration. A katana in fiction (and on film, EveryJapaneseSwordIsAKatana) can [[AbsurdlySharpBlade slice through anything]] as if it were butter. Further, merely wielding a katana makes one a superhuman fighter. A skilled fictional katana wielder can do implausible things like [[ParryingBullets slice bullets in mid air]], [[ImplausibleFencingPowers chop gun barrels off off, and even slice other swords not as cool as the katana off at the hilt]]. The katana wielder him/herself will also be considerably more agile and skilled than any other weapon wielder. If on the enemy side, expect a katana wielder to at least be an {{Elite Mook|s}}, if not a BigBad or TheDragon.
10th Aug '16 8:36:00 PM TheBigBopper
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Curiously, a certain amount of HypeBacklash has hit the katana on the internet, leading some people believing the inverse of this trope: that the katana is an inheirently ''worse'' sword than the others, which is just as fallacious as thinking that they are magical superweapons.

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Curiously, a certain amount of HypeBacklash has hit the katana on the internet, leading to some people believing the inverse of this trope: that the katana is an inheirently ''worse'' sword than the others, which is just as fallacious as thinking that they are magical superweapons.
10th Aug '16 8:29:56 PM TheBigBopper
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In real life, a katana isn't inherently better or worse than any other type of sword. Different areas of the world developed and used different swords to fit their unique situations, and while some of them are [[JackOfAllStats decent at a lot of things]], and others are really good at a few things, but [[CompetitiveBalance no one sword]] can be the best at ''[[MasterOfAll everything]]''. And there certainly isn't a sword that will make you capable of taking on a bunch of guys armed with modern firearms, or defeat any other kind of bladed weapon in the world.

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In real life, a katana isn't inherently better or worse than any other type of sword. Different areas of the world developed and used different swords to fit their unique situations, and while some of them are [[JackOfAllStats decent at a lot of things]], and others are really good at a few things, but [[CompetitiveBalance no one sword]] can be the best at ''[[MasterOfAll everything]]''. And there certainly isn't a sword that will make you capable of taking on a bunch of guys armed with modern firearms, or defeat any other kind of bladed weapon in the world.
10th Aug '16 8:29:29 PM TheBigBopper
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In real life, a katana isn't inherently better or worse than any other type of sword. Different areas of the world developed and used different swords to fit their unique situations, and while some of them are [[JackOfAllStats decent at a lot of things]], and others are really good at a few things, but [[CompetitiveBalance no one sword]] can be the best at [[MasterOfAll ''everything'']]. And there certainly isn't a sword that will make you capable of taking on a bunch of guys armed with modern firearms, or defeat any other kind of bladed weapon in the world.

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In real life, a katana isn't inherently better or worse than any other type of sword. Different areas of the world developed and used different swords to fit their unique situations, and while some of them are [[JackOfAllStats decent at a lot of things]], and others are really good at a few things, but [[CompetitiveBalance no one sword]] can be the best at [[MasterOfAll ''everything'']].''[[MasterOfAll everything]]''. And there certainly isn't a sword that will make you capable of taking on a bunch of guys armed with modern firearms, or defeat any other kind of bladed weapon in the world.
10th Aug '16 8:28:54 PM TheBigBopper
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Japan is the country of origin of a large number of games, movies, TV shows, myths, and legends. RuleOfCool says swords are cooler than guns and tends to also hold the katana to be the coolest sword.

In real life, a katana isn't inherently better or worse than any other type of bladed weapon. Different areas of the world developed and used different weapons to fit their unique situations, and for the most part, [[CompetitiveBalance they were all pretty balanced compared with each other]]. A katana in fiction (and on film, EveryJapaneseSwordIsAKatana) can [[AbsurdlySharpBlade slice through anything]] as if it were butter. Further, merely wielding a katana makes one a superhuman fighter. A skilled fictional katana wielder can [[ParryingBullets slice bullets in mid air]], [[ImplausibleFencingPowers chop gun barrels off and even slice other swords not as cool as the katana off at the hilt]]. The katana wielder him/herself will also be considerably more agile and skilled than any other weapon wielder. If on the enemy side, expect a katana wielder to at least be an {{Elite Mook|s}}, if not a BigBad or TheDragon.

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RuleOfCool says swords are cooler than guns, and tends to also hold the katana to be the coolest sword. This is related to the fact that Japan is the country of origin of for a large number of games, movies, TV shows, myths, and legends. RuleOfCool says swords are cooler than guns and tends to legends, which reflect national pride in this icon of Japanese culture. It also hold probably has something to do with the katana to be fact that a lot of people outside of Japan are aware that the coolest sword.

making of the Japanese sword is a deeply spiritual and artistic process, and that there is an elegant and effective art for using it, while at the same time, equally impressive smithing and martial arts traditions in other countries are more obscure to popular culture.

In real life, a katana isn't inherently better or worse than any other type of bladed weapon. sword. Different areas of the world developed and used different weapons swords to fit their unique situations, and for the most part, while some of them are [[JackOfAllStats decent at a lot of things]], and others are really good at a few things, but [[CompetitiveBalance they were all pretty balanced compared no one sword]] can be the best at [[MasterOfAll ''everything'']]. And there certainly isn't a sword that will make you capable of taking on a bunch of guys armed with each other]].modern firearms, or defeat any other kind of bladed weapon in the world.

Don't tell that to fiction writers, though, because the katana has a certain mystique that lends itself to exaggeration.
A katana in fiction (and on film, EveryJapaneseSwordIsAKatana) can [[AbsurdlySharpBlade slice through anything]] as if it were butter. Further, merely wielding a katana makes one a superhuman fighter. A skilled fictional katana wielder can do implausible things like [[ParryingBullets slice bullets in mid air]], [[ImplausibleFencingPowers chop gun barrels off and even slice other swords not as cool as the katana off at the hilt]]. The katana wielder him/herself will also be considerably more agile and skilled than any other weapon wielder. If on the enemy side, expect a katana wielder to at least be an {{Elite Mook|s}}, if not a BigBad or TheDragon.



Curiously, a certain amount of HypeBacklash has hit the katana on the internet, leading some people believing the inverse of this trope: that the katana is an inheirently ''worse'' sword than the others, which is just as fallacious as thinking that they are magical superweapons.



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* One Japanese-based cutlery smith, KAI Industries (who release their kitchen knives under the brand name "Shun"), uses this trope in advertising their wares, claiming that usage of katana forging techniques makes their knives the best in the world. Professional chefs aren't fooled, however, and do not generally rate their knives particularly high.
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* Enforced and subverted during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. Japanese officers originally carried ''kyū-guntō'' ("old military sword" in Japanese), which resembled Western cavalry sabers, until a nationalist movement demanded a more traditional katana shape. Most of the resulting katanas, called ''shin-guntō'' ("new military sword") were simply mass-produced pieces of machined steel with an edge ground into them. The swords also made it easy [[StraightForTheCommander for enemy soldiers to spot officers from a distance]]. As an actual melee weapon during bayonet charges, the swords had mixed results. At the beginning of the war allied soldiers obviously weren't expected to get into sword fights and had no idea what to do against them. Later in the war when the allied troops did receive training, katanas weren't particularly effective against bayonet equipped rifles like the M-1.

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* Enforced and subverted deconstructed during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. Japanese officers originally carried ''kyū-guntō'' ("old military sword" in Japanese), which resembled Western cavalry sabers, until a nationalist movement demanded a more traditional katana shape. Most of the resulting katanas, called ''shin-guntō'' ("new military sword") were simply mass-produced pieces of machined steel with an edge ground into them. The swords also made it easy [[StraightForTheCommander for enemy soldiers to spot officers from a distance]]. As an actual melee weapon during bayonet charges, the swords had mixed results. At the beginning of the war allied soldiers obviously weren't expected to get into sword fights and had no idea what to do against them. Later in the war when the allied troops did receive training, katanas weren't particularly effective against bayonet equipped bayonet-equipped rifles like the M-1.



* Katanas are quite popular among criminals in countries such as the United Kingdom and Malaysia, where firearms are harder or more expensive to purchase. Cheap katanas have become quite common due to their popularity as a collector's item, so many of them naturally find their way into the hands of unscrupulous people who are prepared to use them. The UK even bans the selling of all mass-produced curved swords due to their use in violent crime.
* The ''Series/MythBusters'' showed if a katana could actually decapitate a [[http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbusters-silencing-a-lamb-part-1.html sheep]] in one swing (Warning: Possible [[{{Squick}} icky]] video). This isn't particularly surprising, since the victim is stationary and braced to get the maximum effect from the swing. Many other swords from around the world could replicate this feat.

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* Katanas are quite popular among criminals in countries such as the United Kingdom and Malaysia, where firearms are harder or more expensive to purchase. Cheap katanas have become quite common due to their popularity as a collector's item, so many of them naturally find their way into the hands of unscrupulous people who are prepared to use them. The UK even bans the selling of all mass-produced curved swords due to their use in violent crime.
crime, and requires a special martial artist license to own a katana for practice.
* The ''Series/MythBusters'' showed if a katana could actually decapitate a [[http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbusters-silencing-a-lamb-part-1.html sheep]] in one swing (Warning: Possible [[{{Squick}} icky]] video). This isn't particularly surprising, since the victim is stationary and braced to get the maximum effect from the swing. Many swing, and many other swords from around the world could replicate do this feat.equally well.



* Creator/TheHistoryChannel show ''Lock and Load'' has R. Lee Ermey [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDkoj932YFo attempting to determine]] whether the katana or the longsword is "better." The test, determined by damage to a metal breastplate by an untrained user, concluded katanas to be the overall better weapon. The validity of the test, and the quality of the weapons tested, are both in question.

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* Creator/TheHistoryChannel show ''Lock and Load'' has R. Lee Ermey [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDkoj932YFo attempting to determine]] whether the katana or the longsword is "better." The test, determined by damage to a metal breastplate by an untrained user, concluded katanas to be the overall better weapon. The validity of the test, test and the quality of the weapons tested, tested are both in question.dubious.



* One Japanese-based cutlery smith, KAI Industries (who release their kitchen knives under the brand name "Shun"), uses this trope in advertising their wares, claiming that usage of katana forging techniques makes their knives the best in the world. Professional chefs aren't fooled, however, and do not generally rate their knives particularly high.



* Subverted by UsefulNotes/MiyamotoMusashi, possibly the most famous Japanese duelist in history. Although a MasterSwordsman who knew the value of the katana, he also warned the warrior against having a favorite weapon and thus neglecting others, and famously defeated UsefulNotes/SasakiKojiro using a [[WoodenKatanasAreEvenBetter wooden sword]]. He even praised firearms as great tools for quickly making novice troops useful in battle.

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* Subverted Averted by UsefulNotes/MiyamotoMusashi, possibly the most famous Japanese duelist in history. Although a MasterSwordsman who knew the value of the katana, he also warned the warrior against having a favorite weapon and thus neglecting others, and famously defeated UsefulNotes/SasakiKojiro using a [[WoodenKatanasAreEvenBetter wooden sword]]. He even praised firearms as great tools for quickly making novice troops useful in battle.
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