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22nd Jan '17 8:02:47 PM Az_Tech341
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** In "Dax", the crew foil an attempt by the Klaestrons to kidnap Jadzia Dax and try her for a murder allegedly committed by her previous host Curzon. It's unlikely it would have been fair--the arresting officer is the son of the victim--but since Deep Space 9 is technically Bajoran soil rather than being owned by the Federation, they fortunately can't use their (horribly written) extradition treaty with the Feds and instead must argue for her trial in Bajoran court, which buys Odo enough time to prove Dax's innocence.



* In the ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'' episode "[[Recap/BattlestarGalactica2003S03E05Collaborators Collaborators]]" several cast members are part of a secret group that has been disappearing people suspected of [[LesCollaborateurs collaborating]] with the Cylons during the occupation of New Caprica. They call themselves a jury but the group contains at least three prior members of LaResistance[[note]]Chief Tyrol's wife Cally was nearly executed by the Cylons by firing squad, Sam Anders's wife Starbuck was held prisoner by the Cylons for the whole length of the occupation, and Colonel Tigh lost an eye and was forced to execute his own wife for leaking a Resistance meeting to keep the Cylons from killing him.[[/note]], and later Starbuck[[note]]Who had been held by a Leoben who was trying to MindRape her into falling in love with him by StockholmSyndrome, and been told that a toddler Leoben brought in was her test-tube daughter when it was just a girl kidnapped from the colony.[[/note]]. [[spoiler:They finally stop what they're doing when they nearly execute Gaeta, only for Gaeta to say something only the Resistance's mole in the Baltar Administration would know.]] In the wake of this, President Roslin orders that there be no further trials, legitimate or otherwise, and to instead set up a truth and reconciliation commission.

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* In the ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'' episode "[[Recap/BattlestarGalactica2003S03E05Collaborators Collaborators]]" several cast members are part of a secret group that has been disappearing disposing of people suspected of [[LesCollaborateurs collaborating]] with the Cylons during the occupation of New Caprica. They call themselves a jury but the group contains at least three prior members of LaResistance[[note]]Chief Tyrol's wife Cally was nearly executed by the Cylons by firing squad, Sam Anders's wife Starbuck was held prisoner by the Cylons for the whole length of the occupation, and Colonel Tigh lost an eye and was forced to execute his own wife for leaking a Resistance meeting to keep the Cylons from killing him.[[/note]], and later Starbuck[[note]]Who had been held by a Leoben who was trying to MindRape her into falling in love with him by StockholmSyndrome, and been told that a toddler Leoben brought in was her test-tube daughter when it was just a girl kidnapped from the colony.[[/note]]. [[spoiler:They finally stop what they're doing when they nearly execute Gaeta, only for Gaeta to say something only the Resistance's mole in the Baltar Administration would know.]] In the wake of this, President Roslin orders that there be no further trials, legitimate or otherwise, and to instead set up a truth and reconciliation commission.
22nd Jan '17 9:27:34 AM StarSword
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* In the ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'' episode "[[Recap/BattlestarGalactica2003S03E05Collaborators Collaborators]]" several cast members are part of a secret group that has been disappearing people suspected of [[LesCollaborateurs collaborating]] with the Cylons during the occupation of New Caprica. They call themselves a jury but the group contains at least three prior members of LaResistance[[note]]Chief Tyrol's wife Cally was nearly executed by the Cylons by firing squad, Sam Anders's wife Starbuck was held prisoner by the Cylons for the whole length of the occupation, and Colonel Tigh lost an eye and was forced to execute his own wife for leaking a Resistance meeting to keep the Cylons from killing him.[[/note]], and later Starbuck[[note]]Who had been held by a Leoben who was trying to MindRape her into falling in love with him by StockholmSyndrome, and been told that a toddler Leoben brought in was her test-tube daughter when it was just a girl kidnapped from the colony.[[/note]]. [[spoiler:They finally stop what they're doing when they nearly execute Gaeta, only for Gaeta to say SomethingOnlyTheyWouldKnow and make Tyrol realize Gaeta was the Resistance's mole, not a collaborator.]] In the wake of this, President Roslin orders that there be no further trials, legitimate or otherwise, and to instead set up a truth and reconciliation commission.

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* In the ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'' episode "[[Recap/BattlestarGalactica2003S03E05Collaborators Collaborators]]" several cast members are part of a secret group that has been disappearing people suspected of [[LesCollaborateurs collaborating]] with the Cylons during the occupation of New Caprica. They call themselves a jury but the group contains at least three prior members of LaResistance[[note]]Chief Tyrol's wife Cally was nearly executed by the Cylons by firing squad, Sam Anders's wife Starbuck was held prisoner by the Cylons for the whole length of the occupation, and Colonel Tigh lost an eye and was forced to execute his own wife for leaking a Resistance meeting to keep the Cylons from killing him.[[/note]], and later Starbuck[[note]]Who had been held by a Leoben who was trying to MindRape her into falling in love with him by StockholmSyndrome, and been told that a toddler Leoben brought in was her test-tube daughter when it was just a girl kidnapped from the colony.[[/note]]. [[spoiler:They finally stop what they're doing when they nearly execute Gaeta, only for Gaeta to say SomethingOnlyTheyWouldKnow and make Tyrol realize Gaeta was something only the Resistance's mole, not a collaborator.mole in the Baltar Administration would know.]] In the wake of this, President Roslin orders that there be no further trials, legitimate or otherwise, and to instead set up a truth and reconciliation commission.
22nd Jan '17 9:25:25 AM StarSword
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* In the ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'' episode "[[Recap/BattlestarGalactica2003S03E05Collaborators Collaborators]]" several cast members are part of a secret group that has been disappearing people suspected of [[LesCollaborateurs collaborating]] with the Cylons during the occupation of New Caprica. They call themselves a jury but the group contains at least three prior members of LaResistance[[note]]Chief Tyrol's wife Cally was nearly executed by the Cylons by firing squad, Sam Anders's wife Starbuck was held prisoner by the Cylons for the whole length of the occupation, and Colonel Tigh lost an eye and was forced to execute his own wife for leaking a Resistance meeting to keep the Cylons from killing him.[[/note]], and later Starbuck[[note]]Who had been held by a Leoben who was trying to MindRape her into falling in love with him by StockholmSyndrome, and been told that a toddler Leoben brought in was her test-tube daughter when it was just a girl kidnapped from the colony.[[/note]]. [[spoiler:They finally stop what they're doing when they nearly execute Gaeta, only for Gaeta to say OnlySomethingTheyWouldKnow and make Tyrol realize Gaeta was the Resistance's mole, not a collaborator.]] In the wake of this, President Roslin orders that there be no further trials, legitimate or otherwise, and to instead set up a truth and reconciliation commission.

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* In the ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'' episode "[[Recap/BattlestarGalactica2003S03E05Collaborators Collaborators]]" several cast members are part of a secret group that has been disappearing people suspected of [[LesCollaborateurs collaborating]] with the Cylons during the occupation of New Caprica. They call themselves a jury but the group contains at least three prior members of LaResistance[[note]]Chief Tyrol's wife Cally was nearly executed by the Cylons by firing squad, Sam Anders's wife Starbuck was held prisoner by the Cylons for the whole length of the occupation, and Colonel Tigh lost an eye and was forced to execute his own wife for leaking a Resistance meeting to keep the Cylons from killing him.[[/note]], and later Starbuck[[note]]Who had been held by a Leoben who was trying to MindRape her into falling in love with him by StockholmSyndrome, and been told that a toddler Leoben brought in was her test-tube daughter when it was just a girl kidnapped from the colony.[[/note]]. [[spoiler:They finally stop what they're doing when they nearly execute Gaeta, only for Gaeta to say OnlySomethingTheyWouldKnow SomethingOnlyTheyWouldKnow and make Tyrol realize Gaeta was the Resistance's mole, not a collaborator.]] In the wake of this, President Roslin orders that there be no further trials, legitimate or otherwise, and to instead set up a truth and reconciliation commission.
22nd Jan '17 9:24:23 AM StarSword
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** In "Dax", the crew foil an attempt by the Klaestrons to kidnap Jadzia Dax and try her for a murder allegedly committed by her previous host Curzon. It's unlikely it would have been fair--the arresting officer is the son of the victim--but since Deep Space 9 is technically Bajoran soil rather than being owned by the Federation, they fortunately can't use their (horribly written) extradition treaty with the Feds and instead must argue for her trial in Bajoran court, which buys Odo enough time to prove Dax's innocence.



--->'''Kim:''' The Akritirians interrogated me. When I wouldn't confess to the bombing, they dragged me in front of a judge. He said you'd already confessed for the both of us, then he pronounced me guilty.

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--->'''Kim:''' -->'''Kim:''' The Akritirians interrogated me. When I wouldn't confess to the bombing, they dragged me in front of a judge. He said you'd already confessed for the both of us, then he pronounced me guilty.



* In side material to ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'', Sela, the deposed empress of the Romulan Star Empire, complained to her Romulan Republic jailors that she thinks a kangaroo court is beneath the Romulan Republic, which claims to have abandoned the old ways. Actually, she's guilty as sin, she's just trying to curry favor.



--> '''Ame''': "[[SarcasmMode Yeeeah, that's not biased at all.]]"
--> '''Royce''': "[[SarcasmBlind Glad you understand!]]"

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--> '''Ame''': "[[SarcasmMode [[SarcasmMode Yeeeah, that's not biased at all.]]"
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'''Royce''': "[[SarcasmBlind [[SarcasmBlind Glad you understand!]]"understand!]]



* Website/StarDestroyerDotNet's moderators sometimes write one up for people who are to be banned from the forum. This is mostly for the entertainment value: if you're getting one, the moderators and admins have already decided among themselves that you're going to be banned for violating forum rules (and the "trial record" will contain links to the offending posts).
* One scene in ''[[Machinima/CopsSkyrim COPS:Skyrim]]'' has an officer conducting a [[DuelToTheDeath "trial by battle"]], one of the combatants is a warrior and the other bakes bread.

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* Website/StarDestroyerDotNet's moderators sometimes write one up a show trial for people who are to be banned from the forum. This is mostly for the entertainment value: if you're getting one, the moderators and admins have already decided among themselves that you're going to be banned for violating forum rules (and the "trial record" will contain links to the offending posts).
* One scene in ''[[Machinima/CopsSkyrim COPS:Skyrim]]'' ''Machinima/CopsSkyrim'' has an officer conducting a [[DuelToTheDeath "trial by battle"]], one battle"]]. One of the combatants is a warrior and the other bakes bread.
22nd Jan '17 9:03:06 AM StarSword
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* ''Series/BabylonFive'': [[http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/guide/087.html "Rising Star"]]: Susanna Luchenko warns Sheridan that if he does not resign from Earth Force immediately, the officers at his court-martial will be from the 'shoot him' side. He has no chance of being found innocent and the trial will be solely for the sake of reinforcing political control over the military. Luchenko, however, is actually a ReasonableAuthorityFigure; if Sheridan ''does'' [[TurnInYourBadge resign immediately]], amnesty will be granted to the rest of his crew and the other people who followed him. [[TheMenFirst Naturally]], Sheridan chooses the latter, requesting only that the amnesty be in writing (which was granted). [[spoiler: And Sheridan had his Xanatos Gambit in place...]]

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* ''Series/BabylonFive'': [[http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/guide/087.html "Rising Star"]]: Susanna Luchenko warns Sheridan that if he does not resign from Earth Force immediately, the officers at his court-martial will be from the 'shoot him' side. He has no chance of being found innocent and the trial will be solely for the sake of reinforcing political control over the military. Luchenko, however, is actually a ReasonableAuthorityFigure; if Sheridan ''does'' [[TurnInYourBadge resign immediately]], amnesty will be granted to the rest of his crew and the other people who followed him. [[TheMenFirst Naturally]], Sheridan chooses the latter, requesting only that the amnesty be in writing (which was granted). [[spoiler: And Sheridan had his Xanatos Gambit in place...[[spoiler:Sheridan resigns and then, rather than quietly disappearing into retirement as he led the Earth Alliance to believe, is immediately appointed the first President of the Interstellar Alliance, and releases copies of the amnesty agreement to the press to keep them from going back on the deal.]]


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* In the ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'' episode "[[Recap/BattlestarGalactica2003S03E05Collaborators Collaborators]]" several cast members are part of a secret group that has been disappearing people suspected of [[LesCollaborateurs collaborating]] with the Cylons during the occupation of New Caprica. They call themselves a jury but the group contains at least three prior members of LaResistance[[note]]Chief Tyrol's wife Cally was nearly executed by the Cylons by firing squad, Sam Anders's wife Starbuck was held prisoner by the Cylons for the whole length of the occupation, and Colonel Tigh lost an eye and was forced to execute his own wife for leaking a Resistance meeting to keep the Cylons from killing him.[[/note]], and later Starbuck[[note]]Who had been held by a Leoben who was trying to MindRape her into falling in love with him by StockholmSyndrome, and been told that a toddler Leoben brought in was her test-tube daughter when it was just a girl kidnapped from the colony.[[/note]]. [[spoiler:They finally stop what they're doing when they nearly execute Gaeta, only for Gaeta to say OnlySomethingTheyWouldKnow and make Tyrol realize Gaeta was the Resistance's mole, not a collaborator.]] In the wake of this, President Roslin orders that there be no further trials, legitimate or otherwise, and to instead set up a truth and reconciliation commission.
21st Jan '17 9:33:53 PM foxley
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** In "the Power of the Daleks", the governor subjects Quinn to a drumhead trial based on some extremely flimsy evidence provided by Bragen.
5th Jan '17 2:02:52 PM Prometheus117
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* A hallmark of Inquisitor courts of the Imperium in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''. Assuming the accused managed to avoid being killed already by over-eager Inquisitors seeking out any hint of [[TheHeretic heresy]] (which in and of itself is already a miracle 99% of the time), actually being brought to a trial means facing down a bunch of Imperial zealots who in most cases have probably already made up their mind about the guilt (real or imagined) of the defendant in question. Some Inquisitors, like Lord Inquisitor Fyodor Karamazov, take this to the extreme to the point [[EvenEvilHasStandards even other Inquisitors balk in shock]], such as killing an innocent priest who managed to take back his planet for the Imperium...under the impression that there was even a ''hint'' of Chaos corruption about him. His quote says it best.

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* A hallmark of Inquisitor courts of the Imperium in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''. Assuming the accused managed to avoid being killed already by over-eager Inquisitors seeking out any hint of [[TheHeretic heresy]] (which in and of itself is already a miracle 99% of the time), actually being brought to a trial means facing down a bunch of Imperial zealots who in most cases have probably already made up their mind about the guilt (real or imagined) of the defendant in question. Some Inquisitors, Some, like Lord Inquisitor Fyodor Karamazov, take this to the extreme to the point [[EvenEvilHasStandards even other Inquisitors balk in shock]], such as killing an innocent priest who managed to take back his planet for the Imperium...under the impression that there was even a ''hint'' of Chaos corruption about him.him and not allowing any members of the Ecclesiarchy to actually come and test him until after he was long since dead. His quote says it best.
5th Jan '17 2:00:54 PM Prometheus117
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** The Central 46 is one which ''rules all Soul Society''. When [[spoiler:Urahara is framed for creating the Visoreds]], he is convicted on circumstantial evidence, not allowed any sort of defense and had his sentence increased just for ''answering back''.
** [[spoiler:Aizen]] receives similar treatment, being sentenced almost immediately. When he lightly mocks them, they add a few centuries to the sentence and have his eyes covered so he'll be blind the entire time.

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** The Central 46 is one which ''rules all Soul Society''. When [[spoiler:Urahara is framed for creating the Visoreds]], he is convicted on circumstantial evidence, not allowed any sort of defense and had his sentence increased just for ''answering back''.
back''. Rukia is essentially condemned to TheNothingAfterDeath simply for giving her powers to a human to save both their lives, [[spoiler:though in that case, Aizen had murdered them all and taken control of the court for his own ends.]]
** [[spoiler:Aizen]] receives similar treatment, being sentenced almost immediately. When he lightly mocks them, they add a few centuries to the sentence and have his eyes covered so he'll be blind the entire time. [[spoiler:Then again, his crimes against Soul Society were actually legitimate with plenty of eyewitness and first-hand evidence. The sentence likely would have been an execution if [[CompleteImmortality he wasn't unkillable at that point]].]]
5th Jan '17 1:55:56 PM Prometheus117
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%%* A hallmark of Inquisitor courts in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''.

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%%* * A hallmark of Inquisitor courts of the Imperium in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''.40000}}''. Assuming the accused managed to avoid being killed already by over-eager Inquisitors seeking out any hint of [[TheHeretic heresy]] (which in and of itself is already a miracle 99% of the time), actually being brought to a trial means facing down a bunch of Imperial zealots who in most cases have probably already made up their mind about the guilt (real or imagined) of the defendant in question. Some Inquisitors, like Lord Inquisitor Fyodor Karamazov, take this to the extreme to the point [[EvenEvilHasStandards even other Inquisitors balk in shock]], such as killing an innocent priest who managed to take back his planet for the Imperium...under the impression that there was even a ''hint'' of Chaos corruption about him. His quote says it best.
-->''"There is no such thing as a plea of innocence in my court, a plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time. Guilty."''
5th Jan '17 1:00:37 PM Fireblood
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* ''Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle'' has the appropriately-titled "Cattle Court" episode, where Reese had just been dumped by a vegetarian girl after she found out he eats meat and works in a slaughterhouse. That night, he has a nightmare where he is in court, where everyone there besides Reese is an animal commonly used for meat, for several counts of murder, complete with photos of the meals he had made. He wakes up right after being handed a guilty sentence.

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* ''Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle'' has the appropriately-titled "Cattle Court" episode, where Reese had just been dumped by a vegetarian girl after she found out he eats meat and works in a slaughterhouse. That night, he has a nightmare where he is in court, where everyone there besides Reese is an animal commonly used for meat, for several counts of murder, complete with photos of the meals he had made. He wakes up right after being handed a guilty sentence.verdict.



* On a related note, the far less well known trials of Finland's wartime leaders for allying with the Axis were viewed at the time (and now) by many as totally unjust. Initially, Finland only agreed to try the same charges as at Nuremberg that any Finns committed. Yet this soon grew into charges of getting into war with the USSR, the UK, and for "preventing peace", due to a law passed by the Finnish parliament under pressure from the Allies. It was viewed as a violation of the Finnish constitution and mockery to the rule of law, because the charges were retroactive. Further, Finland had only allied to the Axis so it could regain the territory that the USSR had taken in the Winter War. This was due to aggression, a crime prosecuted at Nuremberg. Finland officially was at war with the UK, but never fought against them directly then. Ironically, in the Winter War American and British volunteers fought along with the Finns. Some taken prisoner were later returned by Stalin after he allied with the US and UK. The leaders of Finland were therefore essentially punished for retaliating against the Soviet aggression, while the USSR was completely unpunished. However, none received more than ten years in prison, and all were paroled or pardoned before serving the entirety due partly to the backlash against it.

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* On a related note, the far less well known trials of Finland's wartime leaders for allying with the Axis were viewed at the time (and now) by many as totally unjust. Initially, Finland only agreed to try the same charges as at Nuremberg that any Finns committed. Yet this soon grew into charges of getting into war with the USSR, the UK, and for "preventing peace", due to a law passed by the Finnish parliament under pressure from the Allies. It was viewed as a violation of the Finnish constitution and mockery to the rule of law, because the charges were retroactive. Further, Finland had only allied to the Axis so it could regain the territory that the USSR had taken in the Winter War. This was due to aggression, a crime prosecuted at Nuremberg. Finland officially was at war with the UK, but never fought against them directly then. Ironically, in the Winter War American and British volunteers fought along with the Finns. Some taken prisoner were later returned by Stalin after he allied with the US and UK. The leaders of Finland were therefore essentially punished for retaliating against the Soviet aggression, while the USSR was completely unpunished. However, none received more than ten years in prison, and all were paroled or pardoned before serving the entirety due partly to the backlash against it.this.
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