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22nd Mar '17 7:14:42 PM Fireblood
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* ''Series/{{Accused}}'': Willy steals out of desperation to pay for his daughter's wedding. Frankie snaps and kills the man who drove his friend to suicide. Helen burns the factory of the man whose negligence caused her son's death.

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* ''Series/{{Accused}}'': Willy steals out of desperation to pay for his daughter's wedding. Frankie snaps and kills the man who drove his friend to suicide. Helen burns the factory of the man whose negligence caused her son's death.
19th Mar '17 9:45:00 PM tromag
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* There's a (possibly apocryphal) story about Fiorello LaGuardia, when he was sitting as a judge, had a woman brought before him on the charge of stealing a loaf of bread. The woman explained that she only did it because she had no money and was desperate to feed her poor and sick daughter. LaGuardia. moved by the woman's plight, asked the shopkeeper to drop the charges. When he refused (for fear of setting a precedent), LaGuardia fined the woman five dollars for theft. He then fined everyone in the courtroom (himself included) five dollars for living in a city where a woman had to steal to feed her children, and handed the money over to the defendant.
18th Mar '17 5:57:14 PM nombretomado
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* The Meridell/Darigan war in {{Neopets}} starts out looking like the evil overlord Darigan and his people are coming for peaceful Meridell's magic orb and want it at any cost, just because they can. Except that as it turns out, the orb originally belonged to Darigan and was stolen from him by Meridell, and he wants his property returned. As it turned out, more than a few players agreed with him in the end.

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* The Meridell/Darigan war in {{Neopets}} {{Website/Neopets}} starts out looking like the evil overlord Darigan and his people are coming for peaceful Meridell's magic orb and want it at any cost, just because they can. Except that as it turns out, the orb originally belonged to Darigan and was stolen from him by Meridell, and he wants his property returned. As it turned out, more than a few players agreed with him in the end.
6th Feb '17 8:41:33 AM FuzzyBoots
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* The girls from the film ''Set It Off''

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* The girls from the film ''Set It Off''Off'' are committing the bank robberies for various reasons, but most come down to a combination of having enough money to get out of the projects and to get revenge on a banking system that has failed them.
6th Feb '17 12:39:21 AM Luigifan
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This is a trope for when a person becomes a criminal because of socio-economic reasons, or just plain horrible circumstances, and is portrayed sympathetically because of this. Basically a person or a group of people are in dire straits and need money immediately and become bank robbers, and drug dealers out of necessity. This trope usually occurs in crime dramas (specifically urban dramas). Also may be considered TruthInTelevision. And more often than not it's usually overlapped with PlethoraOfMistakes. Also can be a case where a hero has to choose to do what's right despite being illegal. Or something [[GrayAndGreyMorality morally dubious]] for a greater good. This trope almost always fall on the GrayAndGreyMorality side.

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This is a trope for when a person becomes a criminal because of socio-economic reasons, or just plain horrible circumstances, and is portrayed sympathetically because of this. Basically a person or a group of people are in dire straits and need money immediately and become bank robbers, robbers and drug dealers out of necessity. This trope usually occurs in crime dramas (specifically urban dramas). Also may be considered TruthInTelevision. And more often than not it's usually overlapped with PlethoraOfMistakes. Also can be a case where a hero has to choose to do what's right despite being illegal. Or something [[GrayAndGreyMorality morally dubious]] for a greater good. This trope almost always fall falls on the GrayAndGreyMorality side.









* The first anime of ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' has an example where Ed and Al meet a thief who claims to rob so she can support the local hospital. [[spoiler: The hospital still goes belly-up, revealing that the thief actually subverted this trope by keeping the riches for herself. She subsequently becomes a nun, so she can lie about supporting the local church, and then a teacher, so she can claim to help keep the school afloat.]]

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* The first anime of ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' has an example where Ed and Al meet a thief who claims to rob so she can support the local hospital. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The hospital still goes belly-up, revealing that the thief actually subverted this trope by keeping the riches for herself. She subsequently becomes a nun, so she can lie about supporting the local church, and then a teacher, so she can claim to help keep the school afloat.]]
26th Jan '17 6:42:47 AM redbrony
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* In the ''Literature/MaximumRide'' series the main characters often steal in order to survive and to get to where they need to go including stealing a van and somebody's ATM card + pin number.

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* In the ''Literature/MaximumRide'' series the main characters often steal in order to survive and to get to where they need to go including stealing a van and somebody's ATM card + pin number.PIN.
18th Jan '17 1:26:18 PM margdean56
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** Joe Chill, killer of the Thomas and Martha Wayne went from being a hitman in the comics to a desperate man trying to survive, though he still killed the Waynes unnecessarily. Realizing this, and being deprived of the chance to kill Chill himself drives Bruce Wayne to embark on his war on crime.

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** Joe Chill, killer of the Thomas and Martha Wayne Wayne, went from being a hitman in the comics to a desperate man trying to survive, though he still killed the Waynes unnecessarily. Realizing this, and being deprived of the chance to kill Chill himself drives Bruce Wayne to embark on his war on crime.



* In the ''Literature/MaximumRide'' series the main characters often steal in order to survive and to get to where they need to go including stealing a van and somebody's ATM card+ pin number.

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* In the ''Literature/MaximumRide'' series the main characters often steal in order to survive and to get to where they need to go including stealing a van and somebody's ATM card+ card + pin number.



* Lisbeth Salander in Literature/TheMillenniumTrilogy steals hundreds of millions of dollars by very clever use of computer hacking and disguise, and gets the reader's sympathy for her cleverness. Anyway, the original owner was a nssty villain who in the first place got the money in very nasty ways and who clearly "deserved it". Moreover, Salander had had a hard life and when becoming a multi-millionaire does not any extravagant use of the stolen money - just enough to enjoy life a bit, in between very harsh and dangerous adventures.

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* Lisbeth Salander in Literature/TheMillenniumTrilogy steals hundreds of millions of dollars by very clever use of computer hacking and disguise, and gets the reader's sympathy for her cleverness. Anyway, the original owner was a nssty nasty villain who in the first place got the money in very nasty ways and who clearly "deserved it". Moreover, Salander had had a hard life and when becoming she became a multi-millionaire multi-millionaire, does not any extravagant use of use the stolen money - extravagantly -- just enough to enjoy life a bit, in between very harsh and dangerous adventures.
30th Dec '16 12:56:40 PM ectostar
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This trope is to be expected in a CrapsackWorld. See also KarmicThief and CaperRationalization. Compare to: IDidWhatIHadToDo. See also SingleMomStripper, in which necessity leads to degrading (but not necessarily criminal) work and HealthCareMotivation, in which the criminal wants money to pay a treatment or operation for a friend or sibling.

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This trope is to be expected in a CrapsackWorld. See also KarmicThief and CaperRationalization. Compare to: IDidWhatIHadToDo. See also SingleMomStripper, in which necessity leads to degrading (but not necessarily criminal) work and HealthCareMotivation, HealthcareMotivation, in which the criminal wants money to pay a treatment or operation for a friend or sibling.



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19th Dec '16 4:21:30 AM ectostar
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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_dilemma The Heinz Dilemma,]] used in developmental psychology in the formulation of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohlberg%27s_stages_of_moral_development Kohlberg's stages of moral development.]]

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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_dilemma The Heinz Dilemma,]] Dilemma]], used in developmental psychology in the formulation of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohlberg%27s_stages_of_moral_development Kohlberg's stages of moral development.]]
5th Dec '16 11:36:50 PM Ekelai
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* The BigBad's MotiveRant at the end of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'' has shades of this.

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* The BigBad's MotiveRant at the end of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'' has shades of this. [[spoiler: Ganondorf claims that, originally, his motive for attempting to usurp the King of Hyrule, take the land for his own and take the Triforce was because he was tired of watching the Gerudo people live in the dry, unforgiving desert as opposed to the lush plains and forests that the rest of Hyrule enjoyed]].
-->'''[[spoiler: Ganondorf]]''': I... coveted that wind, I suppose.
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