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5th Jun '17 8:39:19 AM AFP
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** The title of "Pope" is an example as well, being derived from the Greek word for "Father", the traditional title for any Catholic priest.
18th May '17 3:33:43 PM Discar
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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': Despite reluctantly controlling most of Central and Eastern Europe, [[EmperorScientist Klaus Wulfenbach]] seems content with the lowly title of Baron (for those of you unfamiliar with noble titles, this is like the Chief of Naval Operations insisting on being called "Ensign").
** He also uses this to rub everyone's noses in the fact that yes, they're princes and dukes and whatnot, and according to their rules of succession he wasn't eligible to assume the title even of Baron Wulfenbach ([[AllThereInTheManual due to]] [[spoiler: being the patched-together and reanimated remains of three Wulfenbach brothers killed in a lab accident]], but an illegitimate heir to a minor house was the one who ended the Long War which was destroying Europa.
** Would-be king of Europa Martellus claims that this was the Baron's biggest mistake, saying that if he had crowned himself Emperor, all of the nobles would have gladly followed him. Refusing the title was refusing to play the game, an insult the noble houses couldn't forgive.
** Which he already planned for, since it's been all-but-confirmed that [[spoiler:his son is Skifander royalty]].
** The von Mekkans are seneschals of Heterodyne Lords, and this responsibility includes running the city of Mechanicsburg. They are heads of the shadow government since Wulfenbach conquered the city, but their only ''official'' title is "Doom Bell Ringer." To give an idea just ''how'' humble this title is-- the Doom Bell is ''automated.'' (This is not to mention that it never rings when there's no Heterodyne in residence.)
*** Vanamonde, the current Seneschal, doesn't even seem to have an office, as he prefers to do all of his work at his favorite coffee shop.

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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'':
** Baron Klaus Wulfenbach:
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Despite reluctantly controlling most of Central and Eastern Europe, [[EmperorScientist Klaus Wulfenbach]] seems content with the lowly title of Baron (for those of you unfamiliar with noble titles, this is like the Chief of Naval Operations insisting on being called "Ensign").
** *** He also uses this to rub everyone's noses in the fact that yes, they're princes and dukes and whatnot, and according to their rules of succession he wasn't eligible to assume the title even of Baron Wulfenbach ([[AllThereInTheManual due to]] [[spoiler: being the patched-together and reanimated remains of three Wulfenbach brothers killed in a lab accident]], but an illegitimate heir to a minor house was the one who ended the Long War which was destroying Europa.
** *** Would-be king of Europa Martellus claims that this was the Baron's biggest mistake, saying that if he had crowned himself Emperor, all of the nobles would have gladly followed him. Refusing the title was refusing to play the game, an insult the noble houses couldn't forgive.
** Which he already planned for, since it's been all-but-confirmed
forgive. It's unclear if he's right, but it turns out that [[spoiler:his Klaus had a plan for that too--[[spoiler:his son is Skifander royalty]].
royalty, on his mother's side]].
** The von Mekkans are seneschals of Heterodyne Lords, and this responsibility includes running the city of Mechanicsburg. They are heads of the shadow government since Wulfenbach conquered the city, but their only ''official'' title is "Doom Bell Ringer." To give an idea just ''how'' humble this title is-- the Doom Bell is ''automated.'' (This is not to mention that it never rings when there's no Heterodyne in residence.)
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) Vanamonde, the current Seneschal, doesn't even seem to have an office, as he prefers to do all of his work at his favorite coffee shop.
12th May '17 12:45:22 AM TheNerevarine
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* [[FallenHeroSuper]][[KnightTemplar man]] in ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' rules over a totalitarian Regime that had previously dissolved all of governments in the world and ceded all authority to him, but his official title is that of "High Councilor". In the tie-in comic, Plastic Man accurately calls him a [[EvilOverlord despot]] who is even sitting on his own [[SlouchOfVillainy throne]].

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* [[FallenHeroSuper]][[KnightTemplar [[FallenHero Super]][[KnightTemplar man]] in ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' rules over a totalitarian Regime that had previously dissolved all of governments in the world and ceded all authority to him, but his official title is that of "High Councilor". In the tie-in comic, Plastic Man accurately calls him a [[EvilOverlord despot]] who is even sitting on his own [[SlouchOfVillainy throne]].
12th May '17 12:44:29 AM TheNerevarine
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* [[FallenHeroSuper]][[KnightTemplar man]] in ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' rules over a totalitarian Regime that had previously dissolved all of governments in the world and ceded all authority to him, but his official title is that of "High Councilor". In the tie-in comic, Plastic Man accurately calls him a [[EvilOverlord despot]] who is even sitting on his own [[SlouchOfVillainy throne]].
* Ulfric Stormcloak in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' is effectively the ruler of half the province of Skyrim at the start of the game and can potentially rule over ''all of it'' after the Civil War questline is completed. Yet, his official title is that of "Jarl" (the ruler of a single hold) instead of High King. He insists on being referred like that because he wants to wait the moot to [[ElectiveMonarchy officially elect]] him as High King, as per tradition.
3rd May '17 1:45:43 PM iowaforever
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* A slight variation occurs in ''{{Exalted}}''; while the Scarlet Empress herself has the usual fancy titles, her Dynasty is a different matter. Although being a member of one of the Great Houses confers significant opportunities for and possession of power as a matter of course, there are no titles that automatically come with it (and even the titles one gains from aking actual positions in government are fairly humble; "Senator", "Satrap" "Minister", etc.). The heads of each House are some of the most powerful people in the Realm, but are known merely by their personal names.

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* A slight variation occurs in ''{{Exalted}}''; while the Scarlet Empress herself has the usual fancy titles, her Dynasty is a different matter. Although being a member of one of the Great Houses confers significant opportunities for and possession of power as a matter of course, there are no titles that automatically come with it (and even the titles one gains from aking taking actual positions in government are fairly humble; "Senator", "Satrap" "Minister", etc.). The heads of each House are some of the most powerful people in the Realm, but are known merely by their personal names.


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** His "son" Roboute Guilliman took the title of "Lord Commander of the Imperium" following the Emperor being placed in the Golden Throne and effectively ruled the Imperium as a second emperor for a time until he was fatally wounded in battle. [[spoiler: He reclaimed the position after being revived 10,000 years later.]]
27th Apr '17 5:48:24 AM Psyclone
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27th Apr '17 5:48:11 AM Psyclone
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* In ''ComicBook/TheWalkingDead'' we have "the Governor". An important title, sure, but still relatively unassuming for someone as AxCrazy and despotic as him. Back when still pretending to be a nice guy, he claims that his men proposed calling him "President" but he turned it down, since he always wanted to be Governor.
29th Mar '17 10:19:49 AM TheBigBopper
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Either way, his title is short, simple, laconic and unpretentious, quite possibly little more than a job descriptor. His authority doesn't come from his title; it comes from ''[[AsskickingEqualsAuthority himself]]''.

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Either way, his title is short, simple, laconic and unpretentious, quite possibly little more than a job descriptor. His authority doesn't come from his title; it comes from ''[[AsskickingEqualsAuthority himself]]''.
12th Mar '17 3:14:46 PM Jhonny
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** The German title "Kanzler" (often translated as chancellor) did not originally mean "head of the government" either. The term originated in the medieval period derived from Latin canellarius and initially described a glorified clerk. And as a matter of fact, the German federal chancellor (Bundeskanzler or in case of a woman holding that office Bundeskanzlerin) is ''not'' the first citizen. In the official order of protocol the Bundespräsident is the undisputed number one, with the number two being either the President of the parliament or the President pro tempore of the Bundesrat (the upper chamber made up of appointed representatives of TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland; the position of president pro tempore rotates among the heads of the sixteen states) and the Bundeskanzler being somewhere down the line. As a further emphasis how "unimportant" the office of Bundeskanzler is, their official residence, the Bundeskanzleramt in Berlin is both lower and within viewing distance of the parliament (Bundestag). Given however, that the Bundeskanzler almost always has the support of the majority of the Bundestag, and is often the leader of one of the major parties, the real power is usually reversed.

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** The German title "Kanzler" (often translated as chancellor) did not originally mean "head of the government" either. The term originated in the medieval period derived from Latin canellarius cancellarius and initially described a glorified clerk. And as a matter of fact, the German federal chancellor (Bundeskanzler or in case of a woman holding that office Bundeskanzlerin) is ''not'' the first citizen. In the official order of protocol the Bundespräsident is the undisputed number one, with the number two being either the President of the parliament or the President pro tempore of the Bundesrat (the upper chamber made up of appointed representatives of TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland; the position of president pro tempore rotates among the heads of the sixteen states) and the Bundeskanzler being somewhere down the line. As a further emphasis how "unimportant" the office of Bundeskanzler is, their official residence, the Bundeskanzleramt in Berlin is both lower and within viewing distance of the parliament (Bundestag). Given however, that the Bundeskanzler almost always has the support of the majority of the Bundestag, and is often the leader of one of the major parties, the real power is usually reversed.
12th Mar '17 2:42:32 PM karstovich2
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* The United States "President" (i.e. "the one who presides") was originally conceived as one of those, and the title had previously been mostly used for chairmen of committees. The style of the King was "By the Grace of God, of Great Britain, France and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, Prince-Elector of Hannover, Duke of Brunswick". The longest title the President gets is "the President of the United States" and is generally addressed merely as "Mister President".

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* The United States "President" (i.e. "the one who presides") was originally conceived as one of those, and the title had previously been mostly used for chairmen of committees. The style of the King was "By the Grace of God, of Great Britain, France and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, Prince-Elector of Hannover, Duke of Brunswick".Brunswick" and is addressed as "Your Majesty". The longest title the President gets is "the President of the United States" and is generally addressed merely as "Mister President".
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