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28th Nov '16 3:12:18 PM WillKeaton
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* The eldest of the Goa'uld in ''Series/StargateSG1'' and the only one not to pose as a deity had the identities of both Yu the Great and the Jade Emperor.

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* The eldest of the still living Goa'uld in ''Series/StargateSG1'' and the only one not to pose as a deity had the identities of both Yu the Great and the Jade Emperor.
2nd Nov '16 8:48:44 PM DustSnitch
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** ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIVBlackFlag'' introduces the idea [[spoiler:of "Sages," individuals who have the genetics and [[GeneticMemory thus memories]] of one of the AbusivePrecursors, Aita. This means]] that numerous historical figures (and potentially countless unknown persons) have been a variation of the same individual. Most purported Sages are unnamed, but in addition to [[spoiler: Bartholomew Roberts and the Count of St. Germain]]--who play major roles in ''Black Flag'' and ''[[VideoGame/AssassinsCreedUnity Unity]]''--they also seem to include the Wandering Jew from the Bible, Jacques de Molay, and (seemingly) David Bowie.

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** ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIVBlackFlag'' introduces the idea [[spoiler:of "Sages," individuals who have the genetics and [[GeneticMemory thus memories]] of one of the AbusivePrecursors, Aita. This means]] means that numerous historical figures (and potentially countless unknown persons) have been a variation of the same individual. Most purported Sages are unnamed, but in addition to [[spoiler: Bartholomew Roberts and the Count of St. Germain]]--who play major roles in ''Black Flag'' and ''[[VideoGame/AssassinsCreedUnity Unity]]''--they also seem to include the Wandering Jew from the Bible, Jacques de Molay, and (seemingly) David Bowie.
2nd Nov '16 8:42:46 PM DustSnitch
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** Oliver Haddo from W. Somerset Maugham's ''The Magician'' is established to have had multiple identities; sometimes he faked his death and took on a new name, other times he outright possessed people. In all, he's been Karswell Trelawney (a double reference to M.R. James' ''Casting the Runes'' and Anthony Powell’s ''A Dance to the Music of Time''), Hjalmar Poelzig from Universal's ''The Black Cat'', Mocata from Creator/DennisWheatley's ''The Devil Rides Out'', Adrian Marcato from ''Film/RosemarysBaby'', Kosmo Gallion from ''Series/TheAvengers'', Charles Felton from Robert Irwin’s ''Satan Wants Me'' and finally [[spoiler:[[Franchise/HarryPotter Lord Voldemort]]]]. The linking factor is that most of these characetrs were based on Creator/AleisterCrowley.

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** Oliver Haddo from W. Somerset Maugham's ''The Magician'' is established to have had multiple identities; sometimes he faked his death and took on a new name, other times he outright possessed people. In all, he's been Karswell Trelawney (a double reference to M.R. James' ''Casting the Runes'' and Anthony Powell’s ''A Dance to the Music of Time''), Hjalmar Poelzig from Universal's ''The Black Cat'', Mocata from Creator/DennisWheatley's ''The Devil Rides Out'', Adrian Marcato from ''Film/RosemarysBaby'', Kosmo Gallion from ''Series/TheAvengers'', Charles Felton from Robert Irwin’s ''Satan Wants Me'' and finally [[spoiler:[[Franchise/HarryPotter Lord Voldemort]]]].[[spoiler:Lord Voldemort]]. The linking factor is that most of these characetrs were based on Creator/AleisterCrowley.
2nd Nov '16 8:40:54 PM DustSnitch
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** ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'' has revealed him to have been (and subsequently forgot that he was) ''[[Literature/BookOfGenesis Cain]]''. The biblical Cain. Who in DC continuity is now revered as the inventor of crime (being that he committed the first murder). This contradicts what had been established about [[spoiler: Cain]] in the [[ComicBook/TheSandman Sandman]] series (it might be a case of CanonDiscontinuity).

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** ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'' has revealed him to have been (and subsequently forgot that he was) ''[[Literature/BookOfGenesis Cain]]''. The biblical Cain. Who in DC continuity is now revered as the inventor of crime (being that he committed the first murder). This contradicts what had been established about [[spoiler: Cain]] Cain in the [[ComicBook/TheSandman Sandman]] series (it might be a case of CanonDiscontinuity).
30th Oct '16 4:31:55 PM Emperor_Oshron
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** ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIVBlackFlag'' introduces the idea [[spoiler:of "Sages," individuals who have the genetics and [[GeneticMemory thus memories]] of one of the AbusivePrecursors, Aita. This means]] that numerous historical figures (and potentially countless unknown persons) have been a variation of the same individual.

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** ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIVBlackFlag'' introduces the idea [[spoiler:of "Sages," individuals who have the genetics and [[GeneticMemory thus memories]] of one of the AbusivePrecursors, Aita. This means]] that numerous historical figures (and potentially countless unknown persons) have been a variation of the same individual. Most purported Sages are unnamed, but in addition to [[spoiler: Bartholomew Roberts and the Count of St. Germain]]--who play major roles in ''Black Flag'' and ''[[VideoGame/AssassinsCreedUnity Unity]]''--they also seem to include the Wandering Jew from the Bible, Jacques de Molay, and (seemingly) David Bowie.
26th Oct '16 9:18:54 PM Fireblood
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* In ''Film/TwelveMonkeys'', a psychiatric patient claims to be from the future, here to avert a disastrous, human-inflicted plague. At one point, his psychiatrist diagnoses him with Cassandra syndrome, a disease she identified based on historical examples. What the viewer can tell and she can't is that all those historical examples are him, living in various times when his time machine malfunctioned.

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* In ''Film/TwelveMonkeys'', a psychiatric patient claims to be from the future, here to avert a disastrous, human-inflicted plague. At one point, his psychiatrist diagnoses She uses him with as the basis of a mental illness called Cassandra syndrome, a disease she identified based on historical examples. What the viewer can tell and she can't is that all those historical examples are him, living in various times when his time machine malfunctioned.malfunctioned (or other time travelers-we see one that gave the same warning to some English medieval peasants).



** Later on in the series, it's revealed that Jesus was actually a student [[spoiler:Gruad Greyface]] A.K.A. the Deley Lama, who faked his own death in order to avoid being deified by his followers. Mal then took it upon himself assume Jesus' identity, as well as that of Simon Magus, just to fuck with the newborn religion.

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** Later on in the series, it's revealed that Jesus was actually a student [[spoiler:Gruad Greyface]] Greyface]], A.K.A. the Deley Lama, who faked his own death in order to avoid being deified by his followers. Mal then took it upon himself to assume Jesus' identity, as well as that of Simon Magus, just to fuck with the newborn religion.



* One of David D Friedman's 'story suggestions' involves a popular writer - he suggests [[Literature/TheSaint Leslie Charteris]] or Creator/MickeySpillane - who is actually an immortal storyteller who changes his identity every fifty years or so to avoid detection and whose critics would be shocked to hear that he was, among others, Creator/GeoffreyChaucer and Creator/{{Homer}}.
* [[UsefulNotes/{{Hinduism}} Hindu god Vishnu]] is said to reincarnate on Earth whenever the ''dharma'' is in peril, his most famous reincarnations being [[Literature/{{Mahabharata}} Krishna]][[note]]Or his brother Balarama. Or both of them. [[DependingOnTheWriter It depends on whom you ask]].[[/note]] and [[Literature/{{Ramayana}} Prince Rama]], but has also been said to have reincarnated as [[UsefulNotes/{{Buddhism}} Buddha]] (though [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation according to this view]], [[TakeThat he was actually trying to get a group of wicked people not to procreate]]). [[StealthPun God knows]] how many others he’s been over the ages...

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* One of David D D. Friedman's 'story suggestions' involves a popular writer - he suggests [[Literature/TheSaint Leslie Charteris]] or Creator/MickeySpillane - who is actually an immortal storyteller who changes his identity every fifty years or so to avoid detection and whose critics would be shocked to hear that he was, among others, Creator/GeoffreyChaucer and Creator/{{Homer}}.
* [[UsefulNotes/{{Hinduism}} The Hindu god Vishnu]] is said to reincarnate on Earth whenever the ''dharma'' is in peril, his most famous reincarnations being [[Literature/{{Mahabharata}} Krishna]][[note]]Or his brother Balarama. Or both of them. [[DependingOnTheWriter It depends on whom you ask]].[[/note]] and [[Literature/{{Ramayana}} Prince Rama]], but has also been said to have reincarnated as [[UsefulNotes/{{Buddhism}} Buddha]] (though [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation according to this view]], [[TakeThat he was actually trying to get a group of wicked people not to procreate]]). [[StealthPun God knows]] how many others he’s been over the ages...
2nd Oct '16 8:37:42 PM PaulA
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* [[spoiler:Ferris Renfrow]] in Creator/GlenCook's ''The Instrumentalities of the Night''. He takes the form of [[spoiler:the "old" Ferris Renfrow's son over and over, though nobody remembers him being young. Also he's a god.]]
7th Aug '16 12:23:52 PM nombretomado
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* VandalSavage, from TheDCU, was [[AncientEgypt Cheops]], UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat, Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar, UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan, UsefulNotes/VladTheImpaler, and UsefulNotes/{{Blackbeard}}. At least that's his story. Every so often there'll be a {{retcon}} in which another immortal will say he's making half of it up.

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* VandalSavage, from TheDCU, Franchise/TheDCU, was [[AncientEgypt Cheops]], UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat, Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar, UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan, UsefulNotes/VladTheImpaler, and UsefulNotes/{{Blackbeard}}. At least that's his story. Every so often there'll be a {{retcon}} in which another immortal will say he's making half of it up.
3rd Aug '16 7:58:27 AM NetSpiker
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* Flint, from the ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' episode "Requiem For Methuselah," claims to have been Music/JohannesBrahms, Creator/WilliamShakespeare, Creator/LeonardoDaVinci, Myth/{{Merlin}}, Lazarus, UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat, [[Characters/BooksOfKings King Solomon]], and Methuselah, among others, in addition to "a hundred other names that you do not know". His birth name was Akharin, a Sumerian soldier. In the (presumably non-canonical) Star Trek/Legion of Superheroes crossover comic series published by IDW, Flint also turns out to be the Trek universe doppleganger of the immortal DC Comics villain Vandal Savage (see Comics, above).

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* Flint, from the ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' episode "Requiem For Methuselah," claims to have been Music/JohannesBrahms, Creator/WilliamShakespeare, Creator/LeonardoDaVinci, Myth/{{Merlin}}, Lazarus, UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat, [[Characters/BooksOfKings King Solomon]], and Methuselah, among others, in addition to "a hundred other names that you do not know". His birth name was Akharin, a Sumerian soldier. In the (presumably non-canonical) Star Trek/Legion of Superheroes crossover comic series published by IDW, Flint also turns out to be the Trek universe doppleganger of the immortal DC Comics villain Vandal Savage (see Comics, above).
25th May '16 2:10:11 AM PaulA
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* In Creator/DavidGemmell's ancient Greek adventure, The Lion of Macedon, the philosopher Creator/{{Aristotle}} is revealed to be a [[spoiler:time traveling Magus]]. At the end of that book's sequel, Dark Prince, it is all but overtly stated that he is [[spoiler:LeonardoDaVinci]].

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* In Creator/DavidGemmell's ancient Greek adventure, The Lion of Macedon, ''Literature/LionOfMacedon'', the philosopher Creator/{{Aristotle}} is revealed to be a [[spoiler:time traveling Magus]]. At the end of that book's sequel, Dark Prince, ''Literature/DarkPrince'', it is all but overtly stated that he is [[spoiler:LeonardoDaVinci]].[[spoiler:Leonardo da Vinci]].
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