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16th Mar '17 1:57:08 PM morenohijazo
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* Often played for laughs in ''Comicbook/{{Iznogoud}}''.
** The title character, an EvilChancellor [[TheStarscream trying to overthrow his Caliph]] and possessing seemingly no redeeming qualities, often willingly saves his assistant Dilat Larat from certain death, only to reveal when thanked by him that he did so because he required his help for things such as carrying important files or cleaning his shoes. In contrast, he often is willing to use Dilat as a lab rat for his various plans.
** In "Iznogoud's Childhood", Dilat asks him his motivations for being Caliph in the place of the Caliph:
---> '''Iznogoud:''' To make reforms! For example, this law to cut off a fruits thief's hand is totally absurd! That will never stop him from stealing fruits: we need to cut off ''both'' of his hands!
** During "Who Killed the Caliph", Iznogoud seems to actually care for Dilat and saves him from execution after he has been mistaken for a spy. He catches the Executioner trying to get Dilat to pay him for mercy, and angrily states that mercy should not be bought. He then notices a tortured prisoner and orders the Executioner to release him, causing Dilat to wonder if he's having pity after all... then he appoints the prisoner new Executioner, and orders him to torture the former one.

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* ''Comicbook/{{Iznogoud}}'':
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Often played for laughs in ''Comicbook/{{Iznogoud}}''.
** The
laughs, where the title character, an EvilChancellor [[TheStarscream trying to overthrow his Caliph]] and possessing seemingly no redeeming qualities, often willingly saves his assistant Dilat Larat Wa'at Alahf from certain death, only to reveal when thanked by him that he did so because he required his help for things such as carrying important files or cleaning his shoes. In contrast, he often is willing to use Dilat Wa'at as a lab rat for his various plans.
** In "Iznogoud's Childhood", Dilat Wa'at Alahf asks him his motivations for being Caliph in the place of the Caliph:
---> '''Iznogoud:''' --->'''Iznogoud:''' To make reforms! For example, this law to cut off a fruits thief's hand is totally absurd! That will never stop him from stealing fruits: we need to cut off ''both'' of his hands!
** During "Who Killed the Caliph", Iznogoud seems to actually care for Dilat Wa'at and saves him from execution after he has been mistaken for a spy. He catches the Executioner trying to get Dilat Wa'at to pay him for mercy, and angrily states that mercy should not be bought. He then notices a tortured prisoner and orders the Executioner to release him, causing Dilat Wa'at to wonder if he's having pity after all... then he appoints the prisoner new Executioner, and orders him to torture the former one.
27th Feb '17 7:22:38 AM Andrew
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That said, these tropes are almost polar opposites by definition. The former [=Jerkass=] is, when it comes to the crunch, a decent guy. The latter [=Jerkass=] is, under all that [=jerkassery=]... a bigger jerk/asshole. [[note]]This is not to say all of them are 100% adverse to genuine PetTheDog moments, however.[[/note]]

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That said, these tropes are almost polar opposites by definition. The former [=Jerkass=] is, when it comes to the crunch, a decent guy. The latter [=Jerkass=] might be capable of the occasional PetTheDog moment, but he is, under all that [=jerkassery=]... a bigger jerk/asshole. [[note]]This is not to say all of them are 100% adverse to genuine PetTheDog moments, however.[[/note]]\n
13th Feb '17 6:34:04 PM AgentSkyblueM7
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* Ryder in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas'' is one of the more troublesome members of the Grove Street Families, often high, always sarcastic, and excessively rude to everyone, especially CJ. However, he puts in work for the gang and does his part (though he always seems like that guy people keep around to kick around). [[spoiler:And then it turns out he had betrayed the Grove Street Families along with Big Smoke, had a hand in the death of Sweet and CJ's mother, and has been arming the gang's enemies the entire time. [[AlasPoorVillain Yet he still gets a tragic sendoff (mostly in CJ's perspective)]][[HeelRealization when he finds out]][[AllForNothing he's not really the one]] [[UnwittingPawn who's been pulling all the strings]].]]

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* Ryder in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas'' is one of the more troublesome members of the Grove Street Families, often high, always sarcastic, and excessively rude to everyone, especially CJ. However, he puts in work for the gang and does his part (though he always seems like that guy people keep around to kick around). [[spoiler:And then it turns out he had betrayed the Grove Street Families along with Big Smoke, had a hand in the death of Sweet and CJ's mother, and has been arming the gang's enemies the entire time. [[AlasPoorVillain Yet he CJ still gets a tragic sendoff (mostly in CJ's perspective)]][[HeelRealization when he finds out]][[AllForNothing he's not really the one]] [[UnwittingPawn who's been pulling all the strings]].feels bad about having to kill him]].]]
13th Feb '17 6:31:20 PM AgentSkyblueM7
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* Ryder in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas'' is one of the more troublesome members of the Grove Street Families, often high, always sarcastic, and excessively rude to everyone, especially CJ. However, he puts in work for the gang and does his part (though he always seems like that guy people keep around to kick around). [[spoiler:And then it turns out he had betrayed the Grove Street Families along with Big Smoke, had a hand in the death of Sweet and CJ's mother, and has been arming the gang's enemies the entire time.]]

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* Ryder in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas'' is one of the more troublesome members of the Grove Street Families, often high, always sarcastic, and excessively rude to everyone, especially CJ. However, he puts in work for the gang and does his part (though he always seems like that guy people keep around to kick around). [[spoiler:And then it turns out he had betrayed the Grove Street Families along with Big Smoke, had a hand in the death of Sweet and CJ's mother, and has been arming the gang's enemies the entire time. [[AlasPoorVillain Yet he still gets a tragic sendoff (mostly in CJ's perspective)]][[HeelRealization when he finds out]][[AllForNothing he's not really the one]] [[UnwittingPawn who's been pulling all the strings]].]]
4th Feb '17 1:06:58 AM Silverblade2
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* Sick Boy by the end of ''{{Literature/Porno}}''. Whilst he does have some redeeming qualities in ''{{Literature/Skagboys}}'', they're pretty much all gone by ''Porno''. Renton notes in the film of ''Literature/{{Trainspotting}}'' that [[DespairEventHorizon after Dawn died]], all the good in Sick Boy was lost forever.
26th Jan '17 7:09:24 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* Sick Boy by the end of ''{{Literature/Porno}}''. Whilst he does have some redeeming qualities in ''{{Literature/Skagboys}}'', they're pretty much all gone by ''Porno''. Renton notes in the film of ''{{Trainspotting}}'' that [[DespairEventHorizon after Dawn died]], all the good in Sick Boy was lost forever.

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* Sick Boy by the end of ''{{Literature/Porno}}''. Whilst he does have some redeeming qualities in ''{{Literature/Skagboys}}'', they're pretty much all gone by ''Porno''. Renton notes in the film of ''{{Trainspotting}}'' ''Literature/{{Trainspotting}}'' that [[DespairEventHorizon after Dawn died]], all the good in Sick Boy was lost forever.
18th Jan '17 6:51:30 AM PixelKnight
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-> ''"So you're saying that I only write poetry to show that beneath this mean, callous, heartless exterior, I just want to be loved...? No, well you're completely wrong. I just write poetry to throw my mean callous heartless exterior into sharp relief."''

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-> ''"So you're saying that I only write poetry to show that beneath this mean, callous, heartless exterior, I just want to be loved...? No, well be...loved? Well, you're completely wrong. I just write poetry to throw my mean callous heartless exterior into sharp relief."''
17th Jan '17 11:46:37 PM Orbiting
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* ''Webcomic/{{Nebula}}'': At first, Virginis just seems like he's a controlling jerk, until we find out that all his other planets went out to the void in spite of his pleas not to, and are implied to have died where he could see but not be able to do anything to help them. This puts him in a new light, making what he says to B a genuine though harsh attempt to keep her safe the way he couldn't for the others. And ''then'' he ''burns B's face half off'' because she asks a question he doesn't like, which strips his claims of protecting her of any sort of legitimacy.
15th Jan '17 8:43:55 AM CurledUpWithDakka
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That said, these tropes are almost polar opposites by definition. The former [=Jerkass=] is, when it comes to the crunch, a decent guy. The latter [=Jerkass=] is, under all that [=jerkassery=]...a bigger jerk/asshole. [[note]]This is not to say all of them are 100% adverse to genuine PetTheDog moments, however.[[/note]]

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That said, these tropes are almost polar opposites by definition. The former [=Jerkass=] is, when it comes to the crunch, a decent guy. The latter [=Jerkass=] is, under all that [=jerkassery=]... a bigger jerk/asshole. [[note]]This is not to say all of them are 100% adverse to genuine PetTheDog moments, however.[[/note]]



May also go hand in hand with GoodFlawsBadFlaws: a character may have a Good Flaw, then repent and apologize...only to turn out to have a Bad Flaw. This character taken to his/her logical extreme would then become a particularly tragic AntiVillain, since such characters [[ObliviouslyEvil genuinely believe themselves reformed]]. In such cases, the character still fits this trope only if he/she is [[{{Hypocrite}} smug about his/her moral struggle]], rather than anguished. The most dangerous example is the KnightTemplar type, such as one who tries to reform for his criminal past by [[YouAreWhatYouHate murdering]] [[SerialKillerKiller other criminals]].

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May also go hand in hand with GoodFlawsBadFlaws: a character may have a Good Flaw, then repent and apologize... only to turn out to have a Bad Flaw. This character taken to his/her logical extreme would then become a particularly tragic AntiVillain, since such characters [[ObliviouslyEvil genuinely believe themselves reformed]]. In such cases, the character still fits this trope only if he/she is [[{{Hypocrite}} smug about his/her moral struggle]], rather than anguished. The most dangerous example is the KnightTemplar type, such as one who tries to reform for his criminal past by [[YouAreWhatYouHate murdering]] [[SerialKillerKiller other criminals]].



'''Lord Flashheart:''' *While holding his pistol at Blackadder* Course it's not what I think. Now get out that door before I redecorate that wall an interesting new colour called `hint of brain'!

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'''Lord Flashheart:''' *While holding his pistol at Blackadder* Course it's not what I think. Now get out that door before I redecorate that wall an interesting new colour called `hint 'hint of brain'!



* A ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' skit had [[Music/BonJovi Jon Bon Jovi and Ritchie Sambora]] (playing themselves) acting this way toward the [=DeMarco=] Brothers (Chris Kattan and Chris Parnell) when they are auditioning to be backup dancers for the band. After repeatedly insulting the brothers' rehearsal and finally driving them to tears, Bon Jovi and Sambora appear to feel bad about what they have done and call the brothers back...only to tell them to "take [their] boombox and get out." Then they do this to them ''[[YankTheDogsChain three more times]]''. Worst of all, they [[KarmaHoudini get no comeuppance for this]] and the audience [[SadistShow (as always)]] [[NoSympathy just laughs]] at the [=DeMarcos=].

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* A ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' skit had [[Music/BonJovi Jon Bon Jovi and Ritchie Sambora]] (playing themselves) acting this way toward the [=DeMarco=] Brothers (Chris Kattan and Chris Parnell) when they are auditioning to be backup dancers for the band. After repeatedly insulting the brothers' rehearsal and finally driving them to tears, Bon Jovi and Sambora appear to feel bad about what they have done and call the brothers back... only to tell them to "take [their] boombox and get out." Then they do this to them ''[[YankTheDogsChain three more times]]''. Worst of all, they [[KarmaHoudini get no comeuppance for this]] and the audience [[SadistShow (as always)]] [[NoSympathy just laughs]] at the [=DeMarcos=].



* The Governor in ''Series/TheWalkingDead'' was previously established as one of the most feared villains in the series, but after [[BreakTheHaughty losing to Rick and his group of heroes]] he becomes a broken man struggling to survive the ZombieApocalypse. When he runs into a family who open up their hearts to him and form a new group with him as the leader he...uses the new group to get revenge on Rick and his friends. He even kills one of the family members who took pity on him in front of everyone.

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* The Governor in ''Series/TheWalkingDead'' was previously established as one of the most feared villains in the series, but after [[BreakTheHaughty losing to Rick and his group of heroes]] he becomes a broken man struggling to survive the ZombieApocalypse. When he runs into a family who open up their hearts to him and form a new group with him as the leader he... uses the new group to get revenge on Rick and his friends. He even kills one of the family members who took pity on him in front of everyone.



* Professor Callahan in ''Theatre/LegallyBlonde'' starts off as a ''textbook'' AmoralAttorney, cold, condescending, and dismissive. Over time, he seems to soften towards Elle, and even stands up for her a couple times...[[spoiler: only to turn right around and kiss her against her will, implying heavily that the only reason he wanted her on the team of interns was because she was a [[SexualExtortion hot, leggy blonde]]]].

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* Professor Callahan in ''Theatre/LegallyBlonde'' starts off as a ''textbook'' AmoralAttorney, cold, condescending, and dismissive. Over time, he seems to soften towards Elle, and even stands up for her a couple times... [[spoiler: only to turn right around and kiss her against her will, implying heavily that the only reason he wanted her on the team of interns was because she was a [[SexualExtortion hot, leggy blonde]]]].



* Mike Warner of the Webcomic/WalkyVerse. Although fans [[DracoInLeatherPants would like to think otherwise]], WordOfGod insists that he's just an asshole with [[FreudianExcuse no justification]]. This is somewhat muddled by the fact that he becomes nice when he's drunk. One example of this is when Ethan quits the store and walks out. Mike calls after him to wait, making it seem like he wants him to stay...then simply kicks him in the nuts. "Okay, ''now'' you can go".

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* Mike Warner of the Webcomic/WalkyVerse. Although fans [[DracoInLeatherPants would like to think otherwise]], WordOfGod insists that he's just an asshole with [[FreudianExcuse no justification]]. This is somewhat muddled by the fact that he becomes nice when he's drunk. One example of this is when Ethan quits the store and walks out. Mike calls after him to wait, making it seem like he wants him to stay... then simply kicks him in the nuts. "Okay, ''now'' you can go".
5th Jan '17 2:12:28 PM StFan
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* [[spoiler:Felix]] from ''Machinima/RedVsBlue''. He initially comes across as a StepfordSmiler BrokenBird to the teams, with some abrasive and greedy moments, and [[NotInThisForYourRevolution different priorities than his employer]], but ultimately willing to see the war through. Turns out he's working for the then-unknown third faction who intends to kill all life on the planet, and he is [[PsychopathicManchild having the time of his life doing so]]. When his status as a FalseFriend come out, he mocks the Reds and Blues for buying his "charismatic mercenary with a heart of gold" act.
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* ''Main/EpicsGameshows'' had [=DevinWithDevin=], who was a relentless bully who showed no signs of kindness or an improved attitude as the season went on.
* Jake Hurwitz, one of the hosts of ''Podcast/IfIWereYou'', describes himself as a "peanut M&M" on the show. In his words, to most girls he's a heartless womanizer with a hard, rough exterior, like a candy shell. But any girl brave enough to dig deeper will find that beneath that hard shell is a soft, warm chocolatey center. However, they'll also find that beneath ''that'' is a shitty little peanut.
* [[spoiler:Felix]] from ''Machinima/RedVsBlue''. He initially comes across as a StepfordSmiler BrokenBird to the teams, with some abrasive and greedy moments, and [[NotInThisForYourRevolution different priorities than his employer]], but ultimately willing to see the war through. Turns out he's working for the then-unknown third faction who intends to kill all life on the planet, and he is [[PsychopathicManchild having the time of his life doing so]]. When his status as a FalseFriend come out, he mocks the Reds and Blues for buying his "charismatic mercenary with a heart of gold" act.

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* ''Main/EpicsGameshows'' ''WebVideo/EpicsGameshows'' had [=DevinWithDevin=], who was a relentless bully who showed no signs of kindness or an improved attitude as the season went on.
* Jake Hurwitz, one of the hosts of ''Podcast/IfIWereYou'', describes himself as a "peanut M&M" on the show. In his words, to most girls he's a heartless womanizer with a hard, rough exterior, like a candy shell. But any girl brave enough to dig deeper will find that beneath that hard shell is a soft, warm chocolatey center. However, they'll also find that beneath ''that'' is a shitty little peanut. \n* [[spoiler:Felix]] from ''Machinima/RedVsBlue''. He initially comes across as a StepfordSmiler BrokenBird to the teams, with some abrasive and greedy moments, and [[NotInThisForYourRevolution different priorities than his employer]], but ultimately willing to see the war through. Turns out he's working for the then-unknown third faction who intends to kill all life on the planet, and he is [[PsychopathicManchild having the time of his life doing so]]. When his status as a FalseFriend come out, he mocks the Reds and Blues for buying his "charismatic mercenary with a heart of gold" act.



%%* In ''BeavisAndButthead'', this trope is played strongly in characters like Butthead himself, Todd and Coach Buzzcut.
* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'':

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%%* In ''BeavisAndButthead'', ''BeavisAndButtHead'', this trope is played strongly in characters like Butthead himself, Todd and Coach Buzzcut.
* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'':
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