Main Jerk With A Heart Of Jerk Discussion

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12:25:11 PM Sep 1st 2014
Would it be possible to call this trope "Jerk with a Heart of Cold"? They show jerks that are cold-hearted and it rhymes with "gold".
02:46:16 PM Sep 1st 2014
Eh, I don't think so. Being cold hearted and being a jerk are not the same thing.
04:40:16 PM May 13th 2015
Personally, I think we should rename it to "Jerk with a Heart of Coal". Not only does "Coal" kinda rhyme with "Gold" and allow for some clever wordplay, but coal and gold offer a very effective contrast that would better differentiate the two tropes (gold is a very valuable and beautiful yellow metal, while coal is an ugly black rock that leaves behind poisonous residue when burned).
01:26:55 AM Jul 7th 2014
What's the difference between this trope and Bait the Dog?
03:00:48 AM Jul 7th 2014
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Bait the Dog happens to ambiguous characters when a good/fair action (or simply "not evil" sustained demeanor) is ultimately followed by bad one(s), killing the ambiguity. This here trope compounds the two deeds; it turns out that the nice thing was done for selfish, evil reasons.

There's some misuse because it's used as "jerk all along", when it's more specific regarding the motivations of the good actions.
12:19:12 AM Jul 21st 2014
They seem similar enough to be merged into one trope. Or if not, the article should at least explain the difference between the two.
01:33:17 AM Jul 21st 2014
That'd be Trope Repair Shop discussion. Also, as I've said in Bait The Dog Discussion I don't think they are mergeable.
04:06:43 AM Dec 21st 2011
Why is there no movie section? This is infuriating.
09:39:12 AM Mar 31st 2011
  • Peanuts has Lucy Van Pelt, who's only rarely shown to have any heart at all (such as when Schroeder hurts her feelings, when Linus is at camp and she misses him, and the arc where Charlie Brown's in the hospital and she's worried he'll die.) Charles Schulz once commented that, deep down, there's something tender in Lucy...but then, if you go even deeper, you might find out that she's worse than you thought in the first place.

I believe that this is not 100% true. Any questions?
02:23:23 PM Mar 6th 2011
why does a straightforward subversion of Jerk With a Heart of Gold get its own page?
12:18:55 AM Jun 8th 2011
Yeah, I was gonna ask that too. I have no idea how this got launched, but someone messed up.
03:38:42 PM Jun 15th 2011
I think that this trope should be removed completely.
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