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23rd Jun '16 12:16:24 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Does Crowley count?
23rd Jun '16 12:11:44 AM Statzkeen
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* In ''Literature/PrinceCaspian'', the grumpy and bitter dwarf Nikibrik points out the flaw in the thinking that the Magic Horn is Too Awesome to Use. The other characters agree with his criticism and decide that he's right and that they should use the horn sooner rather than later - which is what turns out to have set in motion the events of the entire book.
21st Jun '16 11:52:34 AM Kika
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** Does Crowley count?
19th Jun '16 11:55:36 AM TheUnknownUploader
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** "Did I Stutter" has Stanley give Michael an accurate ReasonYouSuckSpeech about Michael's obnoxious and time-consuming antics. Michael then counters by saying that he is still Stanley's boss, and Stanley [[RealityEnsues can't just snap at him like that.]]
12th Jun '16 11:12:28 AM DoctorTItanX
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** Zommari tells Byakuya that the shinigami weren't meant to be hollow-hunters and he should be questioning why shinigami descended into that state from their original duty. He's right. Shinigami were originally Balancers not hollow-hunters.
** When Yamamoto claims [[MadScientist Mayuri]] only had to kill 28,000 Rukongai souls to correct the world soul-balance because his division was too incompetent to identify the Quincy threat fast enough to prevent things getting that bad, Mayuri bluntly tells him it's entirely Yamamoto's fault because Mayuri foresaw the Quincy threat as a result of Uryuu's actions during the Soul Society arc. However, Yamamoto dismissed Mayuri's concerns as paranoid which left the Gotei 13 unprepared for future Quincy attacks.

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** Zommari tells Byakuya that the shinigami Shinigami weren't meant to be hollow-hunters Hollow hunters and he should be questioning why shinigami Shinigami descended into that state from their original duty. He's right. Shinigami were originally Balancers Balancers, not hollow-hunters.
Hollow hunters.
** When Yamamoto claims [[MadScientist Mayuri]] only had to kill 28,000 Rukongai souls to correct the world soul-balance because his division was too incompetent to identify the Quincy threat fast enough to prevent things getting that bad, Mayuri bluntly tells him it's entirely Yamamoto's fault because Mayuri foresaw the Quincy threat as a result of Uryuu's actions during the Soul Society arc. Ryoka Invasion. However, Yamamoto dismissed Mayuri's concerns as paranoid paranoid, which left the Gotei 13 unprepared for future Quincy attacks.



** Vegeta killing Burter and Recoome in cold blood after Goku defeated them. Goku states that Vegeta was being cruel, but Vegeta then retorts that their deaths were deserved, especially since Gohan and Krillin were on the verge of death, and that they had killed countless people under Frieza's orders. While Goku states that having a little compassion isn't a disadvantage, sparing the Ginyu Force would have caused far more harm than good. This is further emphasized later on when Goku spares their even more sadistic leader Frieza's life at least twice -- which only prompts Frieza [[UngratefulBastard to try to]] [[TheFarmerAndTheViper stab Goku in the back]] [[BackstabBackfire both times]]; though, to be fair, Goku only spared Frieza the first time out of CruelMercy, ''not'' compassion.

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** Vegeta killing Burter and Recoome in cold blood after Goku defeated them. Goku states that Vegeta was being cruel, but Vegeta then retorts that their deaths were deserved, especially since Gohan and Krillin were on the verge of death, and that they had killed countless people under Frieza's orders. While Goku states that having a little compassion isn't a disadvantage, sparing the Ginyu Force would have caused far more harm than good. This is further emphasized later on when Goku spares their even more sadistic leader Frieza's life at least twice -- which only prompts Frieza [[UngratefulBastard to try to]] [[TheFarmerAndTheViper stab Goku in the back]] [[BackstabBackfire both times]]; though, to be fair, Goku only spared Frieza the first time out of CruelMercy, CruelMercy instead, ''not'' compassion.



** Vegeta gets another one after beating Android 19 so thoroughly that 19 flips out and tries to make a break for it, to which Dr. Gero/Android 20 shouts at Vegeta that it's enough. As Vegeta rightfully points out in response, Gero and 19 had come all this way to destroy him and the other Z Fighters, and [[MoralMyopia it's only "enough" because they're losing]].

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** Vegeta gets another one after beating Android 19 so thoroughly that 19 flips out and tries to make a break for it, to which Dr. Gero/Android 20 shouts at Vegeta that it's enough. As Vegeta rightfully points out in response, Gero and 19 had clearly come all this way to destroy him and the other Z Fighters, and [[MoralMyopia it's only "enough" because they're losing]].



** Vegeta gets another one in the climax of the Buu Arc when he [[WhatTheHellHero calls out Goku for leaving his children to die while Kid Buu blows up the Earth]], and choosing to rescue Mr. Satan and Dende instead. While he's doing so, Goku just sits there and has absolutely ''nothing'' to say in his own defense.
* ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'': [[BlueAndOrangeMorality Solf J. Kimblee]]. [[SociopathicSoldier Jerkass]] has '''many''' points. Played especially straight in Ch. 60 where he [[BreakingLecture lectures]] Mustang and Hawkeye about the nature of killing, free will, and military duty in the midst of war. Kimblee's words affect them so much, they decide to lose the self-pity, accept responsibility for their acts, and atone by putting into motion a long-term {{plan}} to change the leadership of the country from below.

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** Vegeta gets another one in the climax of the Buu Arc Saga when he [[WhatTheHellHero calls out Goku for leaving his children to die while Kid Buu blows up the Earth]], and choosing to rescue Mr. Satan and Dende instead. While he's doing so, Goku just sits there and has absolutely ''nothing'' to say in his own defense.
* ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'': [[BlueAndOrangeMorality Solf J. Kimblee]]. [[SociopathicSoldier Jerkass]] has '''many''' points. Played especially straight in Ch. Chapter 60 where he [[BreakingLecture lectures]] Mustang and Hawkeye about the nature of killing, free will, and military duty in the midst of war. Kimblee's words affect them so much, they decide to lose the self-pity, accept responsibility for their acts, and atone by putting into motion a long-term {{plan}} to change the leadership of the country from below.
11th Jun '16 8:19:36 AM Valiona
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* In ''LightNovle/AccelWorld'', during the climax of the first volume, Haru learns that his childhood friend, Taku, is actually Cyan Pile, the Burst Linker who's hunting his mentor Kuroyukihime for the point bounty on her, and that he also put a backdoor program in their mutual friend (as well as his girlfriend) Chiyu's Neurolinker to spy on her. Taku reveals that he's dating Chiyu so that she doesn't spend her life looking after Haru, and Haru, despite finding his point difficult to accept, admits that it's not entirely without basis.



** When the Elric brothers confront scar with his killing of the Nina-Alexander chimera, he says that she would have never returned to normal, and would have lived out her days as a lab rat. The brothers find this difficult to accept, but have to admit that even then, they knew on some level that it would have happened and did nothing.



*** During the Davy Back Fight, he tells Chopper to own up to his decision to join the Straw Hats and that he shouldn't be blaming others for it.
*** When Usopp wanted to rejoin the crew, he tells Luffy that unless Usopp apologizes, he'd simply be allowing a crew member to disrespect him.

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*** During the Davy Back Fight, when Foxy takes Chopper after winning the first round as a result of cheating, he tells Chopper to own up to his decision to join the Straw Hats and that he shouldn't be blaming others for it. Notably, Zoro and Sanji are facing a 3-on-3 match next round, and Chopper was one of the people who was set to participate, so he's facing an uphill battle and doesn't complain about it.
*** When Usopp wanted to rejoin the crew, he tells Luffy that unless Usopp apologizes, he'd simply be allowing a crew member to disrespect him. Even Sanji, who frequently butts heads with Zoro, tells Nami that Zoro's completely right when she objects.


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* In ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'', during the Mother's Rosario arc, Asuna's mother, Kyouko Yuuki, is trying to make her transfer out of the Sword Art Online Survivors' School, as well as accept an ArrangedMarriage (or failing that, marry someone who ''isn't'' from her current school- i.e. Kirito). Kyouko describes the SAO Survivors' School as little more than a correctional facility, since its lenient terms for admission seem too good to be true, and serve to let the government monitor the survivors for potentially antisocial behavior. Her point echoes one that Kirito made while talking to Suguha back in the Alfheim arc, and Asuna can't articulate a rebuttal to it, although she likes the school well enough to not want to leave.
7th Jun '16 10:51:14 AM Viira
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* In ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode "A Tale of Two Stans", [[spoiler: The Author, the real Stanford Pines, chews our Grunkle, Stanly Pines out for using the Universe Portal to bring him back to Earth. While it seems like Ford is being an UngratefulBastard, he was right; The Universe Portal was incredible unstable, the gravitational anomalies caused all sorts of damage to the town, and ultimately Stan was gambling the Earth on a dangerous device he didn't understand to bring back someone he didn't know was alive or dead. In the next episode we learn that the Portal created a rift in space-time that is the first step in the BigBad's plan to bring about TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'':
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In ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode "A Tale of Two Stans", [[spoiler: The Author, the real Stanford Pines, chews our Grunkle, Stanly Stanley Pines out for using the Universe Portal to bring him back to Earth. While it seems like Ford is being an UngratefulBastard, he was right; The Universe Portal was incredible incredibly unstable, the gravitational anomalies caused all sorts of damage to the town, and ultimately Stan was gambling the Earth on a dangerous device he didn't understand to bring back someone who he didn't know was alive or dead. In the next episode we learn that the Portal created a rift in space-time that is the first step in the BigBad's plan to bring about TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]].
3rd Jun '16 2:50:39 PM res20stupid
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* Lotus from ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'' brings up the fact that - [[spoiler: for anyone to survive the game at all- people will have to be left behind, thus sparking conversation on who it will be.]] It was brutally pragmatic, but also necessary - [[spoiler: nobody knew at the time that everyone could escape the game]]. She was just trying to solve a bad situation the only way she knew how. And given the tense situation they were in, it's perfectly reasonable that Lotus would want them to [[spoiler: decide on who they'd sacrifice]] as soon as possible. Letting time pass would only make it worse. [[spoiler: Of course, when the time comes for her to be left behind in one ending she is fully accepting of her fate.]]
2nd Jun '16 1:16:51 AM Nintendoman01
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** Her argument with Blake regarding the White Fang in the penultimate episode of volume 1. While Weiss is clearly [[FantasticRacism bigoted]] towards the Faunus in general, the White Fang ''is'' a terrorist group trying to KillAllHumans and her family has personally suffered at their hands, so she has good reason to hate them.

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** Her argument with Blake regarding the White Fang in the penultimate episode of volume 1. While Weiss is clearly [[FantasticRacism bigoted]] towards the Faunus in general, her hatred of the White Fang ''is'' is not unjustified, since they ''are'' a terrorist group trying to KillAllHumans and her family has personally suffered at their hands, so she has good reason to hate them.hands.
30th May '16 8:05:19 AM TheUnknownUploader
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