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6th May '17 8:12:38 PM SirSapphire
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* When [[Franchise/GreenLantern Kyle Rayner]] and [[Comicbook/WonderGirl Donna Troy]] broke up, it was for a variety of different reasons. But the thing that kicked it off was Donna Troy walking in on Kyle sketching a topless woman in his apartment and not appreciating his defense of, "But I'm an artist! It's what I do!" Donna came off especially {{hypocrit|e}}ical because she works as a photographer who often took pictures of the ''very'' scantily-clad ComicBook/{{Starfire}} for her portfolio. Apparently if it's a photograph it's art and is all well and good, but if it's drawn it's just smut.

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* When [[Franchise/GreenLantern Kyle Rayner]] and [[Comicbook/WonderGirl Donna Troy]] broke up, it was for a variety of different reasons. But the thing that kicked it off was Donna Troy walking in on Kyle sketching a topless woman in his apartment and not appreciating his defense of, "But I'm an artist! It's what I do!" Donna came off especially {{hypocrit|e}}ical because she works as a photographer who often took pictures of the ''very'' scantily-clad ComicBook/{{Starfire}} for her portfolio. Apparently if it's a photograph it's art and is all well and good, but if it's drawn it's just smut.smut (a stance on which many would make the ''opposite'' argument).
23rd Apr '17 10:16:10 PM DustSnitch
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* Sadly somewhat TruthInTelevision: many famous antique statues during the late Renaissance / Victorian age in Italy were altered to have leaves covering their genitals. The cast of David at the South Kensington Museum (now the Victoria and Albert Museum), had a detachable plaster fig leaf, added for visits by Queen Victoria and other important ladies, when it was hung on the figure using two strategically placed hooks; it is now displayed nearby.

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* Sadly somewhat TruthInTelevision: many famous antique statues during the late Renaissance / Victorian age in Italy were altered to have leaves covering their genitals. The cast of David ''Art/{{David}}'' at the South Kensington Museum (now the Victoria and Albert Museum), had a detachable plaster fig leaf, added for visits by Queen Victoria and other important ladies, when it was hung on the figure using two strategically placed hooks; it is now displayed nearby.
30th Mar '17 8:55:31 PM PaulA
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* Possibly {{averted|Trope}} or {{inverted|Trope}} but definitely {{lampshade|Hanging}}d is Creator/AlanMoore's ''Lost Girls''. An incredibly beautiful graphic novel series done in watercolours about [[Literature/AliceInWonderland Alice]], [[Literature/PeterPan Wendy]], and [[TheWizardOfOz Dorothy]] meeting each other as grown women... and the [[SlashFic copious amounts of raunchy sex]] they have, with [[GirlOnGirlIsHot each other]], with many people in their youth (the framing device is all the "fairy tales" are actually the girl's first/continuing encounters with sex, with references as to how sex acts became story points) and various [[DepravedBisexual other guests]] at the hotel they happen to find themselves at. It is rigorously defended as "high art" by almost all critics, has fairly good standing amongst the literature circles, despite the vast amounts of sexual depravity and indulgence; and Moore will swear up and down they are all idiots and ''Lost Girls'' is nothing but porn. Well drawn and well written porn, maybe, but still ''porn''.

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* Possibly {{averted|Trope}} or {{inverted|Trope}} but definitely {{lampshade|Hanging}}d is Creator/AlanMoore's ''Lost Girls''. An incredibly beautiful graphic novel series done in watercolours about [[Literature/AliceInWonderland Alice]], [[Literature/PeterPan Wendy]], and [[TheWizardOfOz [[Literature/TheWonderfulWizardOfOz Dorothy]] meeting each other as grown women... and the [[SlashFic copious amounts of raunchy sex]] they have, with [[GirlOnGirlIsHot each other]], with many people in their youth (the framing device is all the "fairy tales" are actually the girl's first/continuing encounters with sex, with references as to how sex acts became story points) and various [[DepravedBisexual other guests]] at the hotel they happen to find themselves at. It is rigorously defended as "high art" by almost all critics, has fairly good standing amongst the literature circles, despite the vast amounts of sexual depravity and indulgence; and Moore will swear up and down they are all idiots and ''Lost Girls'' is nothing but porn. Well drawn and well written porn, maybe, but still ''porn''.
6th Mar '17 3:31:44 PM Wyldchyld
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* Happened a lot in Bravo's RealityShow ''Work of Art'', about finding the next great artist. Taken to new heights when one contestant actually came on his artwork [[FetishFuel (the piece was about the time when he came at a Disney movie).]]

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* Happened a lot in Bravo's RealityShow ''Work of Art'', about finding the next great artist. Taken to new heights when one contestant actually came on his artwork [[FetishFuel (the piece was about the time when he came at a Disney movie).]]



* Happened a lot in Bravo's RealityShow ''Work of Art'', about finding the next great artist. Taken to new heights when one contestant actually came on his artwork [[FetishFuel (the piece was about the time when he came to a Disney movie).]]

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* Happened a lot in Bravo's RealityShow ''Work of Art'', about finding the next great artist. Taken to new heights when one contestant actually came on his artwork [[FetishFuel (the piece was about the time when he came to a Disney movie).]]
6th Jan '17 6:59:10 AM SeptimusHeap
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* ''Serles/{{Coupling}}'': "Inferno". While the video in question was undoubtedly pornographic (its full name was ''Lesbian Spank Inferno''), Steve tries to present it as [[FauxSymbolism a feminist art movie with underlying social critique]]. An inversion occurs immediately afterward. When he [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKGK2fplV_w fails to convince the others]] of this angle, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome he starts to rant that it doesn't matter]], since [[TheRuleOfFirstAdopters every invention and scientific progress (including fire, the printing press and the Internet) had only one purpose]]: [[FreudWasRight to enable men to see naked female bottoms]].

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* ''Serles/{{Coupling}}'': "Inferno". While the video in question was undoubtedly pornographic (its full name was ''Lesbian Spank Inferno''), Steve tries to present it as [[FauxSymbolism a feminist art movie with underlying social critique]]. An inversion occurs immediately afterward. When he [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKGK2fplV_w fails to convince the others]] of this angle, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome he starts to rant that it doesn't matter]], since [[TheRuleOfFirstAdopters every invention and scientific progress (including fire, the printing press and the Internet) had only one purpose]]: [[FreudWasRight to enable men to see naked female bottoms]].bottoms.
28th Nov '16 8:04:11 AM gemmabeta2
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* A fairly interesting case of this in action is the photographer [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hamilton_(photographer) David Hamilton]] (1933-2016). Because of his fairly impeccable ''artiste'' pedigree (and perhaps also because he did most of his work in France in the Sixties and Seventies, where they are more forgiving of this sort of thing), his photographs of nude pubescent girls in erotic poses are considered art and not soft-core child pornography. Although the recent revelation that he also raped some of his models may turn public opinion against him.



* A fairly interesting case of this in action is the photographer [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hamilton_(photographer) David Hamilton]] (1933-2016). Because of his fairly impeccable ''artiste'' pedigree (and perhaps also because he did most of his work in France in the Sixties and Seventies, where they are more forgiving of this sort of thing), his photographs of nude pubescent girls in erotic poses are considered art and not soft-core child pornography. Although the recent revelation that he also raped some of his models may turn public opinion against him.
28th Nov '16 8:02:07 AM gemmabeta2
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* A fairly interesting case of this in action is the photographer [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hamilton_(photographer) David Hamilton]] (1933-2016). Because of his fairly impeccable ''artiste'' pedigree (and perhaps also because he did most of his work in France in the Sixties and Seventies, where they are more forgiving of this sort of thing), his photographs of nude pubescent girls in erotic poses are considered art and not soft-core child pornography. Although the recent revelation that he also raped some of his models may turn public opinion against him.
21st Nov '16 6:13:26 PM foxley
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* In ''Film/MrsHendersonPresents'', Mrs Henderson takes advantage of a loophole in the British law which meant that it was legal to have nudes on stage so long as they did not move, by posing naked ladies on the stage in 'artistic tableaux'.
5th Nov '16 6:23:43 PM merotoker
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* Believe it or not, the infamously uptight HaysCode did not consider the aforementioned ancient, naked statues to be indecent, possibly for the reason of this very trope. The next time you're watching ''CitizenKane'' (made during the height of the Code's power, in about 1940), look ''very'' closely (which is not hard to do, thanks to cinematographer Gregg Toland's deep-focus photography) at the scene in which Kane's lackeys are in a warehouse, sorting all his artistic treasures. The genitalia and pubic hair are not covered.

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* Believe it or not, the infamously uptight HaysCode [[UsefulNotes/TheHaysCode Hays Code]] did not consider the aforementioned ancient, naked statues to be indecent, possibly for the reason of this very trope. The next time you're watching ''CitizenKane'' ''Film/CitizenKane'' (made during the height of the Code's power, in about 1940), look ''very'' closely (which is not hard to do, thanks to cinematographer Gregg Toland's deep-focus photography) at the scene in which Kane's lackeys are in a warehouse, sorting all his artistic treasures. The genitalia and pubic hair are not covered.



* When [[Franchise/GreenLantern Kyle Rayner]] and [[Comicbook/WonderGirl Donna Troy]] broke up, it was for a variety of different reasons. But the thing that kicked it off was Donna Troy walking in on Kyle sketching a topless woman in his apartment and not appreciating his defense of, "But I'm an artist! It's what I do!" Donna came off especially {{hypocrit|e}}ical because she works as a photographer who often took pictures of the ''very'' scantily-clad Starfire for her portfolio. Apparently if it's a photograph it's art and is all well and good, but if it's drawn it's just smut.

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* When [[Franchise/GreenLantern Kyle Rayner]] and [[Comicbook/WonderGirl Donna Troy]] broke up, it was for a variety of different reasons. But the thing that kicked it off was Donna Troy walking in on Kyle sketching a topless woman in his apartment and not appreciating his defense of, "But I'm an artist! It's what I do!" Donna came off especially {{hypocrit|e}}ical because she works as a photographer who often took pictures of the ''very'' scantily-clad Starfire ComicBook/{{Starfire}} for her portfolio. Apparently if it's a photograph it's art and is all well and good, but if it's drawn it's just smut.



* ''[[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076749/ Spielen wir Liebe]]'', possibly the most controversial film of all time, features full frontal nudity and simulated sex between underage participants. The boy and the two girls featured were fourteen and twelve respectively when they made this film. Its defenders have tried--unsuccessfully--to make this argument with the courts in Germany and the Netherlands, where it is now banned as child pornography and the company that released it on DVD has been forced to recall every copy it could. (This has not stopped rips of it--for better or for worse--from remaining available on the internet.)

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* ''[[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076749/ Spielen wir Liebe]]'', possibly the most controversial film of all time, features full frontal nudity and simulated sex between underage participants. The boy and the two girls featured were fourteen and twelve respectively when they made this film. Its defenders have tried--unsuccessfully--to make this argument with the courts in Germany and the Netherlands, where it is now banned as child pornography and the company that released it on DVD has been forced to recall every copy it could. (This has not stopped rips of it--for better or for worse--from remaining available on the internet.Internet.)



* Mark is an art dealer in ''Film/LoveActually'', whose gallery showcased a series of Christmas themed nudes. He said the trope name to a bunch school girls giggling at the photograph of nude carolers. What was funnier is that a deleted scene showed that Mark’s first comment when he opened the pictures:

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* Mark is an art dealer in ''Film/LoveActually'', whose gallery showcased a series of Christmas themed nudes. He said the trope name to a bunch of school girls giggling at the photograph of nude carolers. What was funnier is that a deleted scene showed that Mark’s first comment when he opened the pictures:



* PlayedForLaughs in ''Film/TheNiceGuys'', set during TheSeventies. The adult film industry has a prominent role in the movie, but Amelia keeps insisting that the film she has done is not porn, even though there's nudity in it. Even the [[McGuffin film reel central to the plot]] is stated as being just a means to show the corruption in Detroit. So what if it features a well-known porn star (excuse me, porn ''[[InsistentTerminology young lady]]'') getting naked and having sex?

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* PlayedForLaughs in ''Film/TheNiceGuys'', set during TheSeventies. The adult film industry has a prominent role in the movie, but Amelia keeps insisting that the film she has done is not porn, even though there's nudity in it. Even the [[McGuffin [[MacGuffin film reel central to the plot]] is stated as being just a means to show the corruption in Detroit. So what if it features a well-known porn star (excuse me, porn ''[[InsistentTerminology young lady]]'') getting naked and having sex?



* ''Serles/{{Coupling}}'': "Inferno". While the video in question was undoubtedly pornographic (its full name was ''Lesbian Spank Inferno''), Steve tries to present it as [[FauxSymbolism a feminist art movie with underlying social critique]]. An inversion occurs immediately afterward. When he [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKGK2fplV_w fails to convince the others]] of this angle, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome he starts to rant that it doesn't matter]], since [[TheRuleOfFirstAdopters every invention and scientific progress (including fire, the printing press and the internet) had only one purpose]]: [[FreudWasRight to enable men to see naked female bottoms]].

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* ''Serles/{{Coupling}}'': "Inferno". While the video in question was undoubtedly pornographic (its full name was ''Lesbian Spank Inferno''), Steve tries to present it as [[FauxSymbolism a feminist art movie with underlying social critique]]. An inversion occurs immediately afterward. When he [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKGK2fplV_w fails to convince the others]] of this angle, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome he starts to rant that it doesn't matter]], since [[TheRuleOfFirstAdopters every invention and scientific progress (including fire, the printing press and the internet) Internet) had only one purpose]]: [[FreudWasRight to enable men to see naked female bottoms]].



* The ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead'' episode "Figure Drawing" had the pair join an art class just so they could stare at the nude model, and try to hit her up. During a break, the model leaves, and is replaced by a male model, which instantly turns them off.

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* The ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead'' ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButtHead'' episode "Figure Drawing" had the pair join an art class just so they could stare at the nude model, and try to hit her up. During a break, the model leaves, and is replaced by a male model, which instantly turns them off.
28th Oct '16 9:43:21 AM MasterofGalaxies4628
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