History Main / ItsNotPornItsArt

19th Feb '18 11:01:42 AM SteveMB
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* Invoked in-universe in Creator/HBeamPiper's novel ''Uller Uprising''. The Terrans [[OhCrap realize]] that some of the native rebels had an opportunity to learn about nuclear weapons while employed as laborers on a DeathWorld where nukes were used in mining. They start desperately searching for the detailed information they need to build their own nukes first to put down the rebellion. They find it in some appendices attached to a [[RomanceNovel trashy novel]] set during WorldWarTwo, where they were included by an author who wanted her work to be seen as serious historical fiction rather than smut.
25th Jan '18 4:05:02 PM nanakiro
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In either case, the item in question will be something very few people would consider "artistic", unless the trope is being [[PlayingWithATrope played with]], particularly if the item in question [[InvertedTrope genuinely does]] possess artistic merit even if it ''is'' porn--i.e., they're defending themselves from the belief that True Art is Clean. After all, who said that porn ''can't'' be art? This trope is something of an inversion of MoralGuardians, who are typically presumed wrong -- hence why MoralGuardians themselves often use this trope in their works. NationalGeographicNudity follows on the same "these naked people are depicted solely for educational purposes" line, not just in the trope-naming magazine, but in other venues too (including an entire genre of magazine dedicated to nudism which was presumably educational to those interested in that subject matter ... but as with National Geographic served other purposes for other readers.

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In either case, the item in question will be something very few people would consider "artistic", unless the trope is being [[PlayingWithATrope played with]], particularly if the item in question [[InvertedTrope genuinely does]] possess artistic merit even if it ''is'' porn--i.e., they're defending themselves from the belief that True Art is Clean. After all, who said that porn ''can't'' be art? This trope is something of an inversion of the standard idea of MoralGuardians, who are typically presumed wrong wrong[[note]]"It's not art, it's porn"[[/note]] -- hence why MoralGuardians themselves often use this trope in their works.works made by them (or works parodying them). NationalGeographicNudity follows on the same "these naked people are depicted solely for educational purposes" line, not just in the trope-naming magazine, but in other venues too (including an entire genre of magazine dedicated to nudism which was presumably educational to those interested in that subject matter ... but as with National Geographic served other purposes for other readers.
30th Dec '17 9:29:41 AM Unicorndance
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* Discussed in [[http://www.asexualityarchive.com/missing-a-permission-slip/ this]] page of ''Website/AsexualityArchive''.
->'''Narrator''': "Possession of nudity in all forms makes you a pervy loser worthy of mocking and ridicule. (Unless it's an oil painting, a sculpture, or soft-focus photograph, then that's ''art'' and therefore perfectly acceptable. But you're not permitted to be aroused by that in any way.)''
29th Dec '17 9:07:32 PM TheKaizerreich
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Pornographic works carry a considerable stigma in the U.S. and (to a lesser extent) in other Western countries. However, a great deal of classic works of art contain nudity (and occasionally, sex acts). For this reason, legally a work of art is not considered pornographic under U.S. obscenity laws; what constitutes "artistic merit" is left [[FigureItOutYourself somewhat vague]].

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Pornographic works carry a considerable stigma in the U.S. and (to a lesser extent) in other Western countries. However, a great deal of classic works of art contain nudity (and (and, occasionally, sex acts). For this reason, legally a work of art is not considered pornographic under U.S. obscenity laws; what constitutes "artistic merit" is left [[FigureItOutYourself somewhat vague]].
3rd Nov '17 11:13:13 AM DustSnitch
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* From an episode of ''Series/{{Bottom}}'', as Eddie tries to defend his purchase of an old porn magazine as an 'investment':

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* From an episode of ''Series/{{Bottom}}'', as Eddie tries to defend his purchase of an old porn magazine as an 'investment':'investment' by comparing it to the Art/SistineChapel.
24th Sep '17 12:24:23 PM N1KF
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It's got lots of naked women (or men) in suggestive poses. But it's thoroughly artistic -- I swear! Therefore it can't be considered pornography, and it doesn't matter that it's [[PornStash hidden under my bed]].

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It's got lots of naked women (or men) in suggestive poses. But it's thoroughly artistic -- I swear! Therefore it can't be considered pornography, UsefulNotes/{{pornography}}, and it doesn't matter that it's [[PornStash hidden under my bed]].
13th Sep '17 5:27:13 PM gemmabeta2
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* A fairly interesting case of this in action is the photographer [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hamilton_(photographer) David Hamilton]] (1933-2016). Because of his fairly impeccable ''artiste'' pedigree (and perhaps also because he did most of his work in France in the Sixties and Seventies, where they are more forgiving of this sort of thing), his photographs of nude pubescent girls in erotic poses are considered art and not soft-core child pornography. Although the recent revelation that he also raped some of his models may turn public opinion against him.

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* A fairly An interesting case of this in action is the photographer [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hamilton_(photographer) David Hamilton]] (1933-2016). Because of his fairly impeccable ''artiste'' pedigree (and perhaps also because he did most of his work in France in the Sixties and Seventies, where they are more forgiving of this sort of thing), his photographs of nude pubescent girls in erotic poses are considered art and not soft-core child pornography. pornography (the UK have tried, and failed, to convict owners of the book for possession of child pornography). Although the recent revelation after his suicide that he also raped some many of his models may turn have turned public opinion (if not the law) against him.
8th Sep '17 6:35:16 PM matruz
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* A one-panel-strip by Creator/{{Quino}} showed a woman being disgusted by her husband nailing an enormous poster of ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_maja_desnuda La Maja Desnuda]]'' in their bedroom.
-->'''Man''': But darling... [[Creator/FranciscoDeGoya Goya]]!
5th Sep '17 11:51:18 PM Chrono
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* In ''Literature/{{Gate}}'', Princess Piña Colada and her subordinate Bozes become very enthusiastic about acquiring Japanese "Fine Art" after encountering YaoiGenre manga.



* In ''Literature/{{Gate}}'', Princess Piña Colada and her subordinate Bozes become very enthusiastic about acquiring Japanese "Fine Art" after encountering YaoiGenre manga.
13th Aug '17 5:44:59 AM SeptimusHeap
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* One of the biggest disclaimer regarding infamous {{Shotacon}} series, ''Boku no Pico'' and ''Maid Boy Kuro''. At the beginning of each OVA, a disclaimer appears, saying that they don't condone child pornography.

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* One of the biggest disclaimer regarding infamous {{Shotacon}} [[LoliconAndShotacon shotacon]] series, ''Boku no Pico'' and ''Maid Boy Kuro''. At the beginning of each OVA, a disclaimer appears, saying that they don't condone child pornography.
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