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21st Feb '16 4:47:42 PM ReaderAt2046
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* It's mentioned in ''FanFic/RainbowDoubleDashsLunaverse'' that mind-control spells have a tendency to fail when used to force someone to act against their most fundamental nature. For example, Antithesis refrains from trying to enchant an Ursa Minor because she suspects that doing so would cause her to lose her hold on its Ursa ''Major'' mother. Similarly, even Thrash Metail's mind-control can't make Octavia pass off bad music as good.
29th Dec '15 6:36:55 AM Anddrix
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* SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom has a Hypnoticon device that can put hypnotic commands in the minds of others. If a command goes against the victim's morals they can resist it.

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* SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Doctor Doom has a Hypnoticon device that can put hypnotic commands in the minds of others. If a command goes against the victim's morals they can resist it.
7th Dec '15 10:03:34 AM lavendermintrose
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** The same happens with [[spoiler:Nunnally]] in ''Anime/CodeGeass R2'', when Lelouch geass her into giving her the control to launch a bunch of Freiya bombs. She resist at first, but ultimately succumbs to the geass.

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** The same happens with [[spoiler:Nunnally]] in ''Anime/CodeGeass R2'', when In Anime/CodeGeassAkitoTheExiled part 3, this is how [[spoiler: Lelouch breaks out, though not completely, from the Emperor's geass her into giving her used to make him think he's the control strategist Julius Kingsley. All that matters to launch a bunch of Freiya bombs. She resist at first, but ultimately succumbs to Julius is the geass.Emperor's desires, and that couldn't be more contrary to Lelouch's feelings, and his desire to destroy the empire.]]
18th Oct '15 3:15:39 PM Austin
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* In ''Exiles'', Mimic's body has been snatched by Proteus. He finds himself unable to kill Blink because of Mimic's love for her. Even after leaving Mimic's body, he suffered of the feedback of his feelings and tried several times to get close with her.

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* In ''Exiles'', ''ComicBook/{{Exiles}}'', Mimic's body has been snatched by Proteus. He finds himself unable to kill Blink because of Mimic's love for her. Even after leaving Mimic's body, he suffered of the feedback of his feelings and tried several times to get close with her.
15th Sep '15 5:34:26 PM MechWarrior
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* In ''PandoraHearts'', one episode sees Gil entrapped by a monster capable of controlling people with strings (like puppets, y'know). While it initially manages to make him smack around Oz, his best friend/master whom he's sworn to protect, Oz [[BatmanGambit correctly reasons]] that Gil would never be able to kill him, and literally forces Gil's hand - which causes Gil to break free of the strings long enough to gun down the controller.

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* In ''PandoraHearts'', ''Manga/PandoraHearts'', one episode sees Gil entrapped by a monster capable of controlling people with strings (like puppets, y'know). While it initially manages to make him smack around Oz, his best friend/master whom he's sworn to protect, Oz [[BatmanGambit correctly reasons]] that Gil would never be able to kill him, and literally forces Gil's hand - which causes Gil to break free of the strings long enough to gun down the controller.



* Subverted in CodeGeass - Euphemia hesitates and resists heroically when given the order to kill the Japanese, but the geass is too powerful for her willpower to break through it.

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* Subverted in CodeGeass Anime/CodeGeass - Euphemia hesitates and resists heroically when given the order to kill the Japanese, but the geass is too powerful for her willpower to break through it.



* Not so much a "vow", but {{Wolverine}} was once snapped out of believing he was timid young James Howlett when a can of beer fell on his head. One could almost hear the "Popeye" power-up theme tune as he stares at the can and his features harden.
* {{Superman}} was once hypnotized by Poison Ivy. Batman's only advantage was that Superman will NOT take a life... and that he will drop EVERYTHING to save Lois Lane, who Batman had Catwoman [[BatmanGambit throw off a nearby roof]].

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* Not so much a "vow", but {{Wolverine}} {{ComicBook/Wolverine}} was once snapped out of believing he was timid young James Howlett when a can of beer fell on his head. One could almost hear the "Popeye" power-up theme tune as he stares at the can and his features harden.
* {{Superman}} {{Franchise/Superman}} was once hypnotized by Poison Ivy. Batman's only advantage was that Superman will NOT take a life... and that he will drop EVERYTHING to save Lois Lane, who Batman had Catwoman [[BatmanGambit throw off a nearby roof]].



* ComicBook/DoctorDoom has a Hypnoticon device that can put hypnotic commands in the minds of others. If a command goes against the victim's morals they can resist it.

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* ComicBook/DoctorDoom SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom has a Hypnoticon device that can put hypnotic commands in the minds of others. If a command goes against the victim's morals they can resist it.



** Belkar, under a Charm Person spell, still refuses to hand over any magic items he picks up. Nale, who cast the spell, changes the wording to include Belkar keeping the items (and singing the complete score to ''MeetMeInStLouis'') so that the spell will work.

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** Belkar, under a Charm Person spell, still refuses to hand over any magic items he picks up. Nale, who cast the spell, changes the wording to include Belkar keeping the items (and singing the complete score to ''MeetMeInStLouis'') ''Film/MeetMeInStLouis'') so that the spell will work.
31st Jul '15 5:45:11 PM Fireblood
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* ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan''. Khan implants alien creatures in Chekhov and Captain Terrell's brains that allow him to MindControl them. When Khan orders Captain Terrell to kill Captain Kirk with a phaser, Terrell manages to overcome the MindControl and performs a HeroicSacrifice, killing himself with the phaser to save Kirk's life.

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* ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan''. Khan implants alien creatures in Chekhov and Captain Terrell's brains that allow him to MindControl them. When Khan orders Captain Terrell to kill Captain Kirk with a phaser, Terrell manages to overcome the MindControl and performs a HeroicSacrifice, HeroicSuicide instead, killing himself with the phaser to save Kirk's life.
12th Jul '15 7:05:00 AM VVK
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CompellingVoice, CharmPerson, GrandTheftMe, BrainwashedAndCrazy, it doesn't matter -- that one unbreakable vow will tear through anything. If the control exerted on him is particularly strong (or the show particularly cynical), he will only manage to retain enough control to commit suicide rather than break his vow - or his body might simply resist to the point where his mind or heart breaks from the stress.

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CompellingVoice, CharmPerson, GrandTheftMe, BrainwashedAndCrazy, it doesn't matter -- that one unbreakable vow will tear through anything. If the control exerted on him is particularly strong (or the show particularly cynical), he will only manage to retain enough control to commit suicide rather than break his vow - -- or his body might simply resist to the point where his mind or heart breaks from the stress.
12th Jul '15 7:04:27 AM VVK
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If he's under MoreThanMindControl, attempting to make him break it will cause him to break free of the control instead. If he's got [[LaserGuidedAmnesia Laser Guided]] or EasyAmnesia, he'll [[WistfulAmnesia stop in his tracks without knowing why]] - or [[AmnesiaMissedASpot possibly even remember everything]]. If [[IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight he's in there somewhere]], this will enable him to fight.

CompellingVoice, CharmPerson, GrandTheftMe, BrainwashedAndCrazy, it doesn't matter - that one unbreakable vow will tear through anything. If the control exerted on him is particularly strong (or the show particularly cynical), he will only manage to retain enough control to commit suicide rather than break his vow - or his body might simply resist to the point where his mind or heart breaks from the stress.

And that, essentially, is the core of this trope - a character-trait so important to the character that he will break free of outside control or amnesia to keep it. Simply having a vow will not suffice, if it has not been 'tested' in this manner.

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If he's under MoreThanMindControl, attempting to make him break it will cause him to break free of the control instead. If he's got [[LaserGuidedAmnesia Laser Guided]] or EasyAmnesia, he'll [[WistfulAmnesia stop in his tracks without knowing why]] - -- or [[AmnesiaMissedASpot possibly even remember everything]]. If [[IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight he's in there somewhere]], this will enable him to fight.

CompellingVoice, CharmPerson, GrandTheftMe, BrainwashedAndCrazy, it doesn't matter - -- that one unbreakable vow will tear through anything. If the control exerted on him is particularly strong (or the show particularly cynical), he will only manage to retain enough control to commit suicide rather than break his vow - or his body might simply resist to the point where his mind or heart breaks from the stress.

And that, essentially, is the core of this trope - -- a character-trait so important to the character that he will break free of outside control or amnesia to keep it. Simply having a vow will not suffice, if it has not been 'tested' in this manner.
12th Jul '15 6:42:50 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/FantasticFourWorldsGreatestHeroes'' episode "[[Recap/FantasticFourWorldsGreatestHeroesJohnnyStormAndThePotionOfFire Johnny Storm and the Potion of Fire]", Johnny doesn't resist the fire elemental until it tries to make him kill Susan.

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/FantasticFourWorldsGreatestHeroes'' episode "[[Recap/FantasticFourWorldsGreatestHeroesJohnnyStormAndThePotionOfFire Johnny Storm and the Potion of Fire]", Fire]]", Johnny doesn't resist the fire elemental until it tries to make him kill Susan.
12th Jul '15 6:42:28 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/FantasticFourWorldsGreatestHeroes'' episode "Recap/JohnnyStormAndThePotionOfFire", Johnny doesn't resist the fire elemental until it tries to make him kill Susan.

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/FantasticFourWorldsGreatestHeroes'' episode "Recap/JohnnyStormAndThePotionOfFire", "[[Recap/FantasticFourWorldsGreatestHeroesJohnnyStormAndThePotionOfFire Johnny Storm and the Potion of Fire]", Johnny doesn't resist the fire elemental until it tries to make him kill Susan.
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