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1st Jun '17 12:15:30 PM bowserbros
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Very often TruthInTelevision. InnocentlyInsensitive is the supertrope. The character might grow into a TroubledSympatheticBigot, especially if CerebusSyndrome ensues. Other related tropes include CondescendingCompassion, PositiveDiscrimination, FairForItsDay, TheIngenue, MistakenForRacist, ObliviouslyEvil, RacistGrandma, ValuesDissonance, VirginityMakesYouStupid, [[YouKnowImBlackRight You Know I'm Black, Right?]] and YouAreACreditToYourRace. For honest error rather than honest ignorance, see NobleBigot.

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Very often TruthInTelevision.TruthInTelevision, particularly due to differing social values between cultures and even between different points in a nation's history. InnocentlyInsensitive is the supertrope. The character might grow into a TroubledSympatheticBigot, especially if CerebusSyndrome ensues. Other related tropes include CondescendingCompassion, PositiveDiscrimination, FairForItsDay, TheIngenue, MistakenForRacist, ObliviouslyEvil, RacistGrandma, ValuesDissonance, VirginityMakesYouStupid, [[YouKnowImBlackRight You Know I'm Black, Right?]] and YouAreACreditToYourRace. For honest error rather than honest ignorance, see NobleBigot.
23rd May '17 12:55:47 AM Nintendoman01
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* In the ''Manga/LoveHina'' fic ''FanFic/ContractLabor'', it's revealed that part of the reason for Motoko's [[DoesNotLikeMen misandry]] is because she received bad advice about sex from her great-aunt as a child; as a result, she sincerely believes that sex could never be pleasurable for women and it simply exists to sate men's desires and produce children.
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11th May '17 7:52:46 PM Fireblood
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** Mrs. Cooper (Sheldon's mom) has a tendency to do this a lot. She's extremely sweet and the characters love her motherly nature, but she has a lot of stereotypically conservative Texas views instilled into her, so she doesn't quite understand that offering Raj an exorcism to get rid of the foreign demons that prevent him from talking to women or referring to the Catholic church she visits as sweet "for your rosary rattlers" aren't politically correct things to say. Leonard had to offer make her a list of politically incorrect terms she isn't allowed to say (to which she replied "that'd be mighty white of you"). Of course, when the guys visit the church they aren't a lot better; everyone but Leonard manages to get entirely the wrong end of the stick about praying for things.

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** Mrs. Cooper (Sheldon's mom) has a tendency to do this a lot. She's extremely sweet and the characters love her motherly nature, but she has a lot of stereotypically conservative Texas views instilled into her, so she doesn't quite understand that offering Raj an exorcism to get rid of the foreign demons that prevent him from talking to women or referring to the Catholic church she visits as sweet "for your rosary rattlers" aren't politically correct things to say. Leonard had to offer to make her a list of politically incorrect terms she isn't allowed to say (to which she replied "that'd be mighty white of you"). Of course, when the guys visit the church they aren't a lot better; everyone but Leonard manages to get entirely the wrong end of the stick about praying for things.
11th May '17 7:47:04 PM Fireblood
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* In ''A Grief Observed'', Creator/CSLewis' memoir of the aftermath of his wife's death, he mentions having told her once that his relationship with her felt more like his friendships with other men than any other relationship he'd ever had with a woman. She had to point out to him that it's a bit insulting if the highest compliment you can pay to a woman is that she's almost like a man, and asked what he'd think if she started praising him for his "feminine virtues". He was convinced.

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* In ''A Grief Observed'', Creator/CSLewis' memoir of the aftermath of his wife's death, he mentions having told her once that his relationship with her felt more like his friendships with other men than any other relationship he'd ever had with a woman. She had to point out to him that it's a bit insulting if the highest compliment you can pay to a woman is that she's almost like a man, and asked what he'd think if she started praising him for his "feminine virtues". He was convinced. Some of his other books (for instance ''Mere Christianity'') also have comments which come off this way now, saying for instance that ''of course'' men should be in charge.
26th Mar '17 7:30:12 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Talisa recalls never questioning living in slave-dependent Volantis until a slave committed a hanging offense to save her brother.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Talisa in her backstory. She recalls never questioning living in slave-dependent Volantis until a slave committed a hanging offense to save her brother.
24th Mar '17 1:33:12 PM abscake
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So you've got a really nice character who comes from a sheltered background. They could be a ShelteredAristocrat or SpoiledSweet, or maybe they grew up in a culturally homogeneous community , like a time traveler from a [[ValuesDissonance much less global society]]. They're not used to dealing with people from other ethnic/religious/etc. groups, but that doesn't mean they have a problem with those groups. Far from it! In fact, they probably think other cultures are really exotic and cool and wouldn't it be awesome to have a BlackBestFriend? This is part of the problem.

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So you've got a really nice character who comes from a sheltered background. They could be a ShelteredAristocrat or SpoiledSweet, or maybe they grew up in a culturally homogeneous community , community, like a time traveler from a [[ValuesDissonance much less global society]]. They're not used to dealing with people from other ethnic/religious/etc. groups, but that doesn't mean they have a problem with those groups. Far from it! In fact, they probably think other cultures are really exotic and cool and wouldn't it be awesome to have a BlackBestFriend? This is part of the problem.



NobleBigot is a closely related trope. The difference is that the Noble Bigot has attitudes that are outright bigoted and probably understands perfectly well that their beliefs would be considered offensive by many people, but is a fundamentally good person otherwise. The Innocent Bigot holds absolutely no malice toward the people they offend, and sincerely has no idea that their ideas about other cultures are ignorant, insensitive or harmful. It is not quite this simple in RealLife, where the Innocent Bigot and the Noble Bigot can subtly overlap (i.e., a character ''really'' wants to be kind to people who are different and tries their best, but harbors feelings of fear or resentment deep down which occasionally manifest themselves as crude comments[[note]]In RealLife things get even more complex ''again'', in that the institutionalized prejudice of the environment where someone grows up colours their views at a subconscious level, and even if they know at an intellectual level what the ''right'' viewpoint is, they may be fighting their own background in-built responses in trying ''not'' to react to someone different in an offensive way! This is often the case for people who come from non-diversive communities and suddenly interact with people that they are unfamiliar with, or in unfamiliar ways[[/note]]).

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NobleBigot is a closely related trope. The difference is that the Noble Bigot has attitudes that are outright overtly bigoted and probably understands perfectly well that their beliefs would be considered offensive by many people, but is a fundamentally good person otherwise. The Innocent Bigot holds absolutely no malice toward the people they offend, and sincerely has no idea that their ideas about other cultures are ignorant, insensitive or and harmful. It is not quite this simple in RealLife, where the Innocent Bigot and the Noble Bigot can subtly overlap (i.e., a character ''really'' wants to be kind to people who are different and tries their best, but harbors feelings of fear or resentment deep down which occasionally manifest themselves as crude comments[[note]]In RealLife things get even more complex ''again'', in that the institutionalized prejudice of the environment where someone grows up colours their views at a subconscious level, and even if they know at an intellectual level what the ''right'' viewpoint is, they may be fighting their own background in-built responses in trying ''not'' to react to someone different in an offensive way! This is often the case for people who come from non-diversive communities and suddenly interact with people that they are unfamiliar with, or in unfamiliar ways[[/note]]).
24th Mar '17 1:24:38 PM abscake
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So you've got a really nice character who comes from a sheltered background. They could be a ShelteredAristocrat or SpoiledSweet, or maybe they just grew up in a community that happened to not be very diverse, or they could even be a time traveler from a period when [[ValuesDissonance people from different backgrounds just didn't associate with each other]]. They're not used to dealing with people from other ethnic/religious/etc. groups, but that doesn't mean they have a problem with those groups. Far from it! In fact, they probably think other cultures are really exotic and cool and wouldn't it be awesome to have a BlackBestFriend? This is part of the problem.

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So you've got a really nice character who comes from a sheltered background. They could be a ShelteredAristocrat or SpoiledSweet, or maybe they just grew up in a culturally homogeneous community that happened to not be very diverse, or they could even be , like a time traveler from a period when [[ValuesDissonance people from different backgrounds just didn't associate with each other]].much less global society]]. They're not used to dealing with people from other ethnic/religious/etc. groups, but that doesn't mean they have a problem with those groups. Far from it! In fact, they probably think other cultures are really exotic and cool and wouldn't it be awesome to have a BlackBestFriend? This is part of the problem.
7th Mar '17 7:58:14 AM creader
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* Allen in ''Allen Gregory'' has misinformed views over Hispanics, thinking one of the Hispanic students works as a janitor in the cafeteria because he sees him there all the time and proceeds to "fire" him, even though Allen is just a student himself. Allen gets this view from his father, Richard, who also has the same misguided views.

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* Allen in ''Allen Gregory'' ''WesternAnimation/AllenGregory'' has misinformed views over Hispanics, thinking one of the Hispanic students works as a janitor in the cafeteria because he sees him there all the time and proceeds to "fire" him, even though Allen is just a student himself. Allen gets this view from his father, Richard, who also has the same misguided views.
24th Feb '17 8:50:18 AM psionycx
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* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'': Dr. Bashir, chief medical officer of ''Deep Space Nine'', comes from the Federation and is thus pretty much free of prejudice along gender, race, or sexual orientation lines... but he still calls working on Bajor "real frontier medicine" to the face of a Bajoran patriot.

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* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'': Dr. Bashir, chief medical officer of ''Deep Space Nine'', comes from the Federation and is thus pretty much free of prejudice along gender, race, or sexual orientation lines... but he still calls working on Bajor "real frontier medicine" to the face of a Bajoran patriot. Some commentators have noted that the very name of the series implies this trope by referring to a space station located near a civilized planet as ''Deep Space'' Nine, seemingly just because it is far from [[EarthIsTheCenterOfTheUniverse Earth]].
18th Feb '17 5:58:51 PM rva98014
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* Played almost painfully straight in ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' with [[spoiler:leading lady Judy Hopps, whose subconscious and largely unwitting bigotry towards foxes turns out to be a major plot point in the film's third act. [[CharacterDevelopment She gets over it.]]]]

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* Played almost painfully straight in ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' with [[spoiler:leading lady [[spoiler:protagonist Judy Hopps, whose subconscious and largely unwitting bigotry towards foxes predators turns out to be a major plot point in the film's third act. [[CharacterDevelopment She gets over it.]]]]
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