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7th Apr '18 5:58:57 PM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'': Most characters complain about Kirkwall's WretchedHive slums (Lowtown, the [[FantasticGhetto Alienage]], and Darktown), yet two out of three are shown to be very clean, neat, and orderly places. The main character's family spends the whole first Act complaining about the unbearable living conditions in Lowtown, yet their uncle's supposed filthy little hovel is a fairly large and orderly house with multiple rooms, and the neighborhood buildings are as structurally sound and the streets as empty and clean as those in Hightown, save a little smoggy air. The Kirkwall Alienage is also described as below Lowtown socio/economically (with "crumbling shacks," "knee-deep mud," and "drunken louts" stumbling around), yet the alienage looks even prettier, cleaner, and more colorful than Lowtown, and the elven citizens polite and upstanding. (It's especially {{Egregious}} when one elven companion moves into the alienage and the characters talk like she lives in a one-room rathole, complete with her apologizing for the mess, yet her house is just as spacious and clean as the uncle's.) Only Darktown seems to live up to its name, and it's underground.

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* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'': Most characters complain about Kirkwall's WretchedHive slums (Lowtown, the [[FantasticGhetto Alienage]], and Darktown), yet two out of three are shown to be very clean, neat, and orderly places. The main character's family spends the whole first Act complaining about the unbearable living conditions in Lowtown, yet their uncle's supposed filthy little hovel is a fairly large and orderly house with multiple rooms, and the neighborhood buildings are as structurally sound and the streets as empty and clean as those in Hightown, save a little smoggy air. The Kirkwall Alienage is also described as below Lowtown socio/economically (with "crumbling shacks," "knee-deep mud," and "drunken louts" stumbling around), yet the alienage looks even prettier, cleaner, and more colorful than Lowtown, and the elven citizens polite and upstanding. (It's especially {{Egregious}} JustForFun/{{Egregious}} when one elven companion moves into the alienage and the characters talk like she lives in a one-room rathole, complete with her apologizing for the mess, yet her house is just as spacious and clean as the uncle's.) Only Darktown seems to live up to its name, and it's underground.
31st Mar '18 6:51:00 PM ElSquibbonator
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* An in-universe example in ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad''. Unlike other examples on this page, it doesn't try to make the viewer believe the characters are poor, instead hangs a lampshade on the characters viewing themselves as "poor". Stan Smith is very well off and isn't afraid to show off, to the point where he invites his half-brother Rusty and his family over every Thanksgiving to brag about the stuff he has. Later, he visits Rusty's home and finds out that Rusty is a billionaire: anything Stan has, Rusty has it times a thousand. Suddenly Stan and the rest of his family (excluding Hayley, who had run off a few episodes prior) start complaining about how little they had because they were comparing themselves to Rusty.

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* An in-universe example in ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad''. Unlike other examples on this page, it doesn't try to make the viewer believe the characters are poor, instead hangs a lampshade on the characters viewing themselves as "poor". Stan Smith is very well off and isn't afraid to show off, off (he ''does'' work for the CIA, after all), to the point where he invites his half-brother Rusty and his family over every Thanksgiving to brag about the stuff he has. Later, he visits Rusty's home and finds out that Rusty is a billionaire: anything Stan has, Rusty has it times a thousand. Suddenly Stan and the rest of his family (excluding Hayley, who had run off a few episodes prior) start complaining about how little they had because they were comparing themselves to Rusty.
13th Mar '18 10:07:31 AM SeizureFerret
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* The trope FirstWorldProblems exists for a reason. Although extreme poverty in some industrialized countries can be a real problem (and sadly not that different from the economic situation of the poor in the UsefulNotes/ThirdWorld), what is considered poor in the developed world would be at the very least middle class (if not even high middle class) in some developing nations. There's also some kind of Matryoshka doll effect on this, people from mid-income countries (that's like the middle class of nations, countries that are not yet industrialized but are much better than the underdeveloped countries) like most of Eastern Europe and South America, may have their middle class population looking like very poor people if compare to the high-income countries (like Western Europe, the US, Canada and Japan), but at the same time the poor and the middle class in mid-income countries live in much better conditions compare to the poor and sometimes even the (often almost inexistent) middle class in the low-income countries like those of Sub-Saharan Africa.

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* The trope FirstWorldProblems exists for a reason. Although extreme poverty in some industrialized countries can be a real problem (and sadly not that different from the economic situation of the poor in the UsefulNotes/ThirdWorld), what is considered poor in the developed world would be at the very least middle class (if not even high middle class) in some developing nations. There's also some kind of Matryoshka doll effect on this, people from mid-income countries (that's like the middle class of nations, countries that are not yet industrialized but are much better than the underdeveloped countries) like most of Eastern Europe and South America, may have their middle class population looking like very poor people if compare compared to the high-income countries (like Western Europe, the US, Canada and Japan), but at the same time the poor and the middle class in mid-income countries live in much better conditions compare compared to the poor and sometimes even the (often almost inexistent) nonexistent) middle class in the low-income countries like those of Sub-Saharan Africa.
11th Mar '18 9:06:09 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia'': None of the gang make much money from the bar, yet Dee lives by herself in a very nice apartment.

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* ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia'': None of the gang make much money from the bar, yet Dee lives by herself in a very nice apartment. None of the gang ever seem to lack funds for whatever crazy scheme they cook up each week. Frank's presence helps explain some of this, though he's not involved in every adventure.
11th Mar '18 9:03:27 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia'': None of the gang make much money from the bar, yet Dee lives by herself in a very nice apartment.



** In ''VideoGame/ApolloJustice'', Phoenix is now debarred and making a living playing poker/badly playing the piano in a bar, raising a teenage daughter (who has a job of her own, but at least once goes on a shopping binge), and officially hires Apollo (who himself is implied to be in similar financial difficulties). Again, money troubles are just treated like a running joke.

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** * In ''VideoGame/ApolloJustice'', Phoenix is now debarred and making a living playing poker/badly playing the piano in a bar, raising a teenage daughter (who has a job of her own, but at least once goes on a shopping binge), and officially hires Apollo (who himself is implied to be in similar financial difficulties). Again, money troubles are just treated like a running joke.
11th Mar '18 9:01:16 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* ''Series/{{Frasier}}'': After Maris kicks Niles out and freezes his accounts, he's shown to be eating baloney sandwiches and has to downgrade his car to a hatchback. Yet as a successful practicing psychiatrist, one must wonder where his paychecks are going.
** Another episodes discusses this in depth. Frasier floats Roz a loan when she mentions she's struggling while they were laid off. However, soon after, she's frequently mentioning going to an exclusive spa, carrying bags of expensive shoes and perfumes, and dining in nice restaurants. When Frasier confronts her about this, she mentions how her finances were as bad as she said, and all the luxuries were easily explained: her friend took her to lunch, her mother treated her to the spa, the shoes were a store credit.

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* ''Series/{{Frasier}}'': After Maris kicks Niles out and freezes his accounts, he's shown to be eating baloney sandwiches and has to downgrade his car to a hatchback. Yet as a successful practicing psychiatrist, one must wonder where his paychecks are going.
** Another episodes
An episode discusses this in depth. Frasier floats Roz a loan when she mentions she's struggling while they were laid off. However, soon after, she's frequently mentioning going to an exclusive spa, carrying bags of expensive shoes and perfumes, and dining in nice restaurants. When Frasier confronts her about this, she mentions how her finances were as bad as she said, and all the luxuries were easily explained: her friend took her to lunch, her mother treated her to the spa, the shoes were a store credit.
3rd Feb '18 3:53:44 PM lucy24
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** Without mentioning ''Little Women'' by name, its attitudes are mocked in ''Literature/ATreeGrowsInBrooklyn'' when Francie has to endure a teacher pontificating about poverty. Her replies are internal:
--->'''Teacher:''' My father was a minister with a very small salary.
--->'''Francie:''' (But it ''was'' a salary)
--->'''Teacher:''' And the only help my mother had was a succession of untrained maids, mostly girls from the country.
--->'''Francie:''' (I see. You were poor . . . poor with a maid.)
3rd Jan '18 12:43:08 PM bodhirook
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8th Nov '17 12:38:13 AM Luppercus
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* The trope FirstWorldProblems exists for a reason. Although extreme poverty in some industrialized countries can be a real problem (and sadly not that different from the economic situation of the poor in the UsefulNotes/Third World), what is considered poor in the developed world would be at the very least middle class (if not even high middle class) in some developing nations. There's also some kind of Matryoshka doll effect on this, people from mid-income countries (that's like the middle class of nations, countries that are not yet industrialized but are much better than the underdeveloped countries) like most of Eastern Europe and South America, may have their middle class population looking like very poor people if compare to the high-income countries (like Western Europe, the US, Canada and Japan), but at the same time the poor and the middle class in mid-income countries live in much better conditions compare to the poor and sometimes even the (often almost inexistent) middle class in the low-income countries like those of Sub-Saharan Africa.

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* The trope FirstWorldProblems exists for a reason. Although extreme poverty in some industrialized countries can be a real problem (and sadly not that different from the economic situation of the poor in the UsefulNotes/Third World), UsefulNotes/ThirdWorld), what is considered poor in the developed world would be at the very least middle class (if not even high middle class) in some developing nations. There's also some kind of Matryoshka doll effect on this, people from mid-income countries (that's like the middle class of nations, countries that are not yet industrialized but are much better than the underdeveloped countries) like most of Eastern Europe and South America, may have their middle class population looking like very poor people if compare to the high-income countries (like Western Europe, the US, Canada and Japan), but at the same time the poor and the middle class in mid-income countries live in much better conditions compare to the poor and sometimes even the (often almost inexistent) middle class in the low-income countries like those of Sub-Saharan Africa.
8th Nov '17 12:37:48 AM Luppercus
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* The trope FirstWorldProblems exists for a reason. Although extreme poverty in some industrialized countries can be a real problem (and sadly not that different from the economic situation of the poor in the UsefulNotes/Third World), what is considered poor in the developed world would be at the very least middle class (if not even high middle class) in some developing nations. There's also some kind of Matryoshka doll effect on this, people from mid-income countries (that's like the middle class of nations, countries that are not yet industrialized but are much better than the underdeveloped countries) like most of Eastern Europe and South America, may have their middle class population looking like very poor people if compare to the high-income countries (like Western Europe, the US, Canada and Japan), but at the same time the poor and the middle class in mid-income countries live in much better conditions compare to the poor and sometimes even the (often almost inexistent) middle class in the low-income countries like those of Sub-Saharan Africa.
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