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2nd Nov '16 8:09:02 AM NNinja
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* Wade Wilson from ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'' is supposedly a really big talker. But we never really see it. He cracks a few jokes, and only a few, and they are few and far between. And once was just to break an awkward silence. Nothing out of the ordinary, especially when compared to his comics counterpart. It just feels like a reference to said counterpart more than anything else. Of course, most of the times he's talking are when everyone else is being quiet and rambles on and on as opposed to the rest who have a couple lines of small talk.
20th Oct '16 4:53:56 PM WaxingName
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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'': Josuke is afraid of turtles. You only hear of this in the beginning when first introduced to him and it could have been used as a tactic against him by [[BigBad Kira]], like having an enemy Stand that turned things into turtles or even just resembled one.

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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'': ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable'': Josuke is afraid of turtles. You only hear of this in the beginning when first introduced to him and it could have been used as a tactic against him by [[BigBad Kira]], like having an enemy Stand that turned things into turtles or even just resembled one.
16th Oct '16 1:31:11 AM Chabal2
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* ''{{Literature/Redwall}}'': Some mentions of the Bloodwrath mention that those cursed with it can't tell friend from for and end up attacking their own allies without realizing it. Except that we've never seen any evidence that this could happen, making the Bloodwrath [[CursedWithAwesome more awesome than cursed.]]
15th Oct '16 3:16:18 PM rafi
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* Steve Smith from ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad''. One common joke about him is him supposedly being extremely feminine, despite not being noticeably girlier than most 14 year old boys. One episode even has him join a lesbian gang because the members thought he was more girl than boy and in "LGBSteve," he joined a women's roller derby team because Hayley introduced him to the team as her sister and the other team members believe that he's too feminine to be a boy.

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* Steve Smith from ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad''. One common joke about him is him supposedly being extremely feminine, despite not being noticeably girlier than most 14 year old boys. One episode even has him join a lesbian gang because the members thought he was more girl than boy and in "LGBSteve," "LGB Steve," he joined a women's roller derby team because Hayley introduced him to the team as her sister and the other team members believe that he's too feminine to be a boy.
15th Oct '16 3:15:14 PM rafi
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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' plays with this a lot, such as informing the audience that a character is hideously ugly or very attractive when they look no different than anyone else.
** In one episode, Cartman is sent to jail, leaving the other boys to single Clyde out as "obviously" the fattest kid in the class, even though he is literally the exact same shape as all the other kids other than his hair.
** Special mention goes to Ugly Bob, who was exiled from Canada for his ugliness despite looking identical to every other Canadian (and not being considered ugly by non-Canadians). It turns out that his ugliness gives him [[spoiler:the gorgon-like ability to turn anything that looks at him into stone]].
** In "The Hobbit", Wendy points out her and the other kid's imperfections (like Bebe having acne and Jason having freckles, yet they're not shown); like herself having pimples and crooked bottom teeth (neither of which are visible), and points out that Stan has short stubby legs, even though they look just like everyone else's.
* As stated by multiple characters in ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'', Numbuh One's butt is supposed to be ridiculously huge, but it looks just about the same as the other character's.
* In ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'' Dib is regularly mocked for having a giant head, even though his head is the same size as any other character's.

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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' plays with this a lot, such as informing One episode of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' has Jake ignoring Finn for nearly the audience entire episode because he seems to believe out of absolutely nowhere that a character is hideously ugly or very attractive when they look no different than anyone else.
** In one episode, Cartman is sent to jail, leaving the other boys to single Clyde out as "obviously" the fattest kid in the class, even though he is literally the exact same shape as all the other kids other than his hair.
** Special mention goes to Ugly Bob, who was exiled
Finn constantly makes up adventures.
* Steve Smith
from Canada for his ugliness ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad''. One common joke about him is him supposedly being extremely feminine, despite looking identical to every other Canadian (and not being considered ugly by non-Canadians). It turns out that his ugliness gives noticeably girlier than most 14 year old boys. One episode even has him [[spoiler:the gorgon-like ability to turn anything that looks at join a lesbian gang because the members thought he was more girl than boy and in "LGBSteve," he joined a women's roller derby team because Hayley introduced him into stone]].
** In "The Hobbit", Wendy points out
to the team as her sister and the other kid's imperfections (like Bebe team members believe that he's too feminine to be a boy.
* Lana Kane from ''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}'' is constantly made fun of by other people for
having acne and Jason having freckles, yet they're not shown); like herself having pimples and crooked bottom teeth (neither of which are visible), and points out that Stan has short stubby legs, big hands, even though they look just like everyone else's.
* As stated by multiple characters
her character is drawn in ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'', Numbuh One's butt proportion with normal sized hands. [[note]]This is supposed actually somewhat of a development gag - Her voice actress, Aisha Tyler, has rather large hands.[[/note]]
* Ackar from ''WesternAnimation/{{Bionicle}}: The Legend Reborn'' is said
to be ridiculously huge, but an old warrior way past his prime, and as such, his people are growing tired of him. Doesn't stop him from performing impossible multi-somersaults and wiping away a gang of marauding Bone Hunters and their dinosaur steeds with ease.
* We're told Ember's song "Remember" from ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'' is a mediocre song. Sam goes on that it's pre-packaged bubblegum pop taking away fame from proper artists and Danny makes fun of
it looks just about too. Real-world fans love the same as song and it honestly has pretty deep lyrics. In-series her PopularityPower's seem to cause a MisaimedFandom since they only seem to like the other character's.
* In ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'' Dib is regularly mocked for having a giant head, even though his head is
catchy chorus and ignore the same size as any other character's.rest.



* Ackar from ''WesternAnimation/{{Bionicle}}: The Legend Reborn'' is said to be an old warrior way past his prime, and as such, his people are growing tired of him. Doesn't stop him from performing impossible multi-somersaults and wiping away a gang of marauding Bone Hunters and their dinosaur steeds with ease.
* Lana Kane from ''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}'' is constantly made fun of by other people for having big hands, even though her character is drawn in proportion with normal sized hands. [[note]]This is actually somewhat of a development gag - Her voice actress, Aisha Tyler, has rather large hands.[[/note]]
* Homer Simpson of ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' fame is frequently portrayed as being seriously, even ''morbidly'' obese, even though he has a relatively average body type compared to other people in Springfield. Apu, Krusty, and Dr. Hibbert, to name three, are just as fat as Homer though they're never portrayed as such, while Barney, Mayor Quimby, and Chief Wiggum are considerably fatter and the Comic Book Guy is by far the fattest of them all. However, one episode had Springfield declared the fattest town in the USA, so there's at least some acknowledgement. As the whole of Springfield is overweight, this is not so much "informed" but more normal for the town.



* One episode of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' has Jake ignoring Finn for nearly the entire episode because he seems to believe out of absolutely nowhere that Finn constantly makes up adventures.

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* One Quite a bit of fuss in a ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' is about how 12-year old Dipper has Jake ignoring Finn for nearly the entire episode because he seems to believe out voice of absolutely nowhere that Finn constantly makes up adventures.a pubescent boy whose voice is breaking. The problem is Dipper sounds like a full-grown man. His voice isn't remotely squeaky.



* In ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'' Dib is regularly mocked for having a giant head, even though his head is the same size as any other character's.
* Homer Simpson of ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' fame is frequently portrayed as being seriously, even ''morbidly'' obese, even though he has a relatively average body type compared to other people in Springfield. Apu, Krusty, and Dr. Hibbert, to name three, are just as fat as Homer though they're never portrayed as such, while Barney, Mayor Quimby, and Chief Wiggum are considerably fatter and the Comic Book Guy is by far the fattest of them all. However, one episode had Springfield declared the fattest town in the USA, so there's at least some acknowledgement. As the whole of Springfield is overweight, this is not so much "informed" but more normal for the town.
* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' plays with this a lot, such as informing the audience that a character is hideously ugly or very attractive when they look no different than anyone else.
** In one episode, Cartman is sent to jail, leaving the other boys to single Clyde out as "obviously" the fattest kid in the class, even though he is literally the exact same shape as all the other kids other than his hair.
** Special mention goes to Ugly Bob, who was exiled from Canada for his ugliness despite looking identical to every other Canadian (and not being considered ugly by non-Canadians). It turns out that his ugliness gives him [[spoiler:the gorgon-like ability to turn anything that looks at him into stone]].
** In "The Hobbit", Wendy points out her and the other kid's imperfections (like Bebe having acne and Jason having freckles, yet they're not shown); like herself having pimples and crooked bottom teeth (neither of which are visible), and points out that Stan has short stubby legs, even though they look just like everyone else's.
* As stated by multiple characters in ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'', Numbuh One's butt is supposed to be ridiculously huge, but it looks just about the same as the other character's.



* Quite a bit of fuss in a ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode is about how 12-year old Dipper has the voice of a pubescent boy whose voice is breaking. The problem is Dipper sounds like a full-grown man. His voice isn't remotely squeaky.
* We're told Ember's song "Remember" from ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'' is a mediocre song. Sam goes on that it's pre-packaged bubblegum pop taking away fame from proper artists and Danny makes fun of it too. Real-world fans love the song and it honestly has pretty deep lyrics. In-series her PopularityPower's seem to cause a MisaimedFandom since they only seem to like the catchy chorus and ignore the rest.
14th Sep '16 1:03:48 AM PaulA
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* In ''Literature/EndersGame'', Bean is claimed to be bad at commanding large armies, but can use a few as precisely as a scalpel. Why he would be bad with large armies is never given any examples past being stated so... until the POVSequel ''Ender's Shadow'' which revealed said trait was in fact a lie to keep Bean from shouldering too many responsibilities because he's Ender's replacement in case he fails. Being a P.O.V. sequel also gives it more time to show that the lie does have a bit of truth to it; Bean's tactics are excellent, but morale under his command tends to be low because he's not good at empathizing with others.

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* In ''Literature/EndersGame'', Bean is claimed to be bad at commanding large armies, but can use a few as precisely as a scalpel. Why he would be bad with large armies is never given any examples past being stated so... until the POVSequel ''Ender's Shadow'' ''Literature/EndersShadow'' which revealed said trait was in fact a lie to keep Bean from shouldering too many responsibilities because he's Ender's replacement in case he fails. Being a P.O.V. sequel also gives it more time to show that the lie does have a bit of truth to it; Bean's tactics are excellent, but morale under his command tends to be low because he's not good at empathizing with others.
13th Sep '16 9:34:36 PM TheSinful
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* Jeremiah Walker in ''[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/19300/the-man-with-two-names The Man With Two Names]]'' is stated more than once to have a problem with his temper. Yet the only times he's shown losing his temper in the story are when someone is completely screwing him over such as his employer not only refusing to help him get a work visa so he won't get deported to [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the Everfree Forest]]. The ultimate case being his argument and "murder" of his older brother Abe. Abe stole the pastor position at the local church which Jeremiah had wanted since childhood then proceeded to remove all Christian influences from the church to "be more inclusive", and his idea of helping Jeremiah is offering a recommendation for him to be pastor at a ''church of a different religion''. Furthermore, Abe is the one who escalated the argument to outright violence and Jeremiah accidentally stabbed him when Abe tried to choke him out and Jeremiah lashed out blindly with a knife.
11th Sep '16 11:00:21 PM NNinja
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* In ''Visulanovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice'' Maya describes her past attempts at channelling spirits as "hit-and-miss". This might've been true for the [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney first game in the series]] where she did have a few failures, but that's when she's specifically described as being still in training. One game later, while she continues to train, she's considered full-fledged spirit medium, and from that point onward she never once she failed to channel a spirit of a dead person.
28th Aug '16 9:25:12 AM NNinja
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* Friday in ''Literature/RobinsonCrusoe'' is supposed to be an ignorant savage (Crusoe loves that word) from a wretched cannibal tribe. While we ''do'' see some cannibals in action, Friday himself is never anything but loyal, brave, kind, intelligent, and handsome - hardly qualities one would associate with a "savage." It's just about impossible to picture him as ever having been TheSavageIndian.
** Though "savage" at the time, and even up until the beginning of the twentieth century, had very different connotations; it didn't mean brutal like it does now and wasn't derogatory, and in fact had some positive connotations because it was associated with people who were thought to be brave, loyal, etc.; "savages" were just "uncultured" or "uncivilised".
20th Jul '16 5:40:44 AM Morgenthaler
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* Garet in the original ''VideoGame/GoldenSun'' is mentioned by his little brother to be a [[BigEater compulsive glutton]]. This is never mentioned again in canon (though [[SpinOffspring Tyrell]] gives it a CallBack in ''Dark Dawn''). Likewise, the official Nintendo strategy guide for ''The Lost Age'' directly describes [[TheBrute Agatio]] as "... [[DumbMuscle [lacking] substance between the ears]]". This is the guy who outwits [[TheChessmaster Alex]] to his face, and later [[TryingToCatchMeFightingDirty sabotages Isaac's party]] because [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy he knows he won't win a fair fight with them]]. Lacking substance ''he ain't''.

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* Garet in the original ''VideoGame/GoldenSun'' is mentioned by his little brother to be a [[BigEater compulsive glutton]]. This is never mentioned again in canon (though [[SpinOffspring Tyrell]] gives it a CallBack in ''Dark Dawn''). Likewise, the official Nintendo strategy guide for ''The Lost Age'' directly describes [[TheBrute Agatio]] as "... [[DumbMuscle [lacking] substance between the ears]]". This is the guy who outwits [[TheChessmaster Alex]] to his face, and later [[TryingToCatchMeFightingDirty sabotages Isaac's party]] because [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy he knows he won't win a fair fight with them]].them. Lacking substance ''he ain't''.
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