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11th Jun '16 2:33:41 AM Morgenthaler
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If a character ''ends up'' in one of these, they may have been ReroutedFromHeaven.

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If a character ''ends up'' in one of these, they may have been ReroutedFromHeaven.
ReroutedFromHeaven. Or, if they deliberately sought it out, a HellSeeker.
11th Jun '16 1:06:42 AM Morgenthaler
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* From [[WilliamBlake William Blake's]] illustrated novella, TheMarriageOfHeavenAndHell:
** ''As I was walking among the fires of hell, delighted with the enjoyments of Genius; which to Angels look like torment and insanity. I collected some of their Proverbs: thinking that as the sayings used in a nation, mark its character, so the Proverbs of Hell, shew the nature of Infernal wisdom better than any description of buildings or garments.''

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* From [[WilliamBlake William Blake's]] Creator/WilliamBlake's illustrated novella, TheMarriageOfHeavenAndHell:
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''Literature/TheMarriageOfHeavenAndHell'':
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''As I was walking among the fires of hell, delighted with the enjoyments of Genius; which to Angels look like torment and insanity. I collected some of their Proverbs: thinking that as the sayings used in a nation, mark its character, so the Proverbs of Hell, shew the nature of Infernal wisdom better than any description of buildings or garments.''
14th May '16 9:26:22 AM Morgenthaler
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* The Cenobites' dimension in ''Franchise/{{Hellraiser}}''. A dimension where pain and pleasure are synonymous. they even lampshade it themselves, like when Pinhead describes himself and the other Cenobites as "Angels to some, demons to others."
** In fact they are usually summoned by someone "seeking the pleasures of heaven or hell, it doesn't matter which". They tend to change their mind about how much like a paradise that sounds after a couple of decades.

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* The Cenobites' dimension in ''Franchise/{{Hellraiser}}''. A dimension where pain and pleasure are synonymous. they even lampshade it themselves, like when Pinhead describes himself and the other Cenobites as "Angels to some, demons to others."
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" In fact they are usually summoned by someone "seeking the pleasures of heaven or hell, it doesn't matter which". They tend to change their mind about how much like a paradise that sounds after a couple of decades.
14th May '16 9:24:55 AM Morgenthaler
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*** Makes sense. Angelus was largely depicted as "evil for evil's sake", and he just went further down that rabbit hole. Spike was largely depicted as "Evil for love" and later "Crazy for love" and later "Batshit insane for love". So it makes sense that he'll "talk the talk" but when it comes time to destroy the world, he has no real personal motivation.
7th May '16 5:40:17 AM Morgenthaler
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27th Mar '16 12:47:07 PM dasuberkaiser
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* ''ShinMegamiTensei'': No matter ''which'' [[OrderVersusChaos utopia]] [[MultipleEndings you get]] humans do NOT have it easy. On the one hand you have Chaos, which has as it's ideal world one where [[TheSocialDarwinist the strong do whatever they want]] no matter how horrible with no laws or organizations to stop them and the weak are constantly preyed upon. The alternative of a Law utopia? Well, the strong in society wouldn't be allowed to do anything like that to the weak. Because God is going to be the strongest, [[GodIsEvil morally ambiguous at the best of times]] and usually [[MindRape doesn't]] [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill tolerate]], [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul any]] [[FateWorseThanDeath dissent or strife]]...

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* ''ShinMegamiTensei'': No matter ''which'' [[OrderVersusChaos utopia]] [[MultipleEndings you get]] humans do NOT have it easy. On the one hand you have Chaos, which has as it's ideal world one where [[TheSocialDarwinist the strong do whatever they want]] no matter how horrible with no laws or organizations to stop them and the weak are constantly preyed upon. The alternative of a Law utopia? Well, the strong in society wouldn't be allowed to do anything like that to the weak. Because God is going to be the strongest, [[GodIsEvil morally ambiguous at the best of times]] and usually [[MindRape doesn't]] [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill tolerate]], tolerate]] [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul any]] [[FateWorseThanDeath dissent or strife]]...
10th Feb '16 4:22:44 PM eroock
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->''If this really is the work of God, I'd say she had lousy taste.''

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->''If ->''"If this really is the work of God, I'd say she had lousy taste.''"''
13th Jan '16 9:00:35 PM WanderingBrowser
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* Played around with in ''TabletopGame/DemonTheDescent''. All demons are looking to achieve their InfernalParadise, their personal Hell, as part of their end-goal, but what that actually ''is'' varies between demons, and some are particularly surprising. For example, there are demons who seek a Suburban Hell, which is literally nothing more than settling down to a nice, quiet, ''normal'' human life with family and friends somewhere.
** Perhaps the closest examples of this are the Colonial Power and Hellscape paths for Hell-seekers presented in the ''Demon Storyteller's Guide''. Colonists want to escape the God-Machine by seeking refuge ''elsewhere'', to the point of trying to found colonies in defunct timelines, alien worlds and the setting's various {{Dark World}}s. The Devils, on the other hand, want something similar to the Colonists, but deliberately stylized to resemble more classic depictions of hell -- as in, stocked with not only loyal servitor-monsters, but ''also'' damned enemies suffering in endless torment for the Devil's amusement and pleasure. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Other demons almost invariably turn on Devils once they realize what the Devil's Hell actually entails.]]
28th Nov '15 5:48:27 PM nombretomado
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* In ''SecretSix'', Catman's parents are both dead, and he meets them both on a visit to hell--his abusive father chained up, and his mother a lioness. When he questions Etrigan about why his mother isn't in heaven, Etrigan states that one chooses their heaven, and his mother's heaven is being his father's tormentor in hell.

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* In ''SecretSix'', ''ComicBook/SecretSix'', Catman's parents are both dead, and he meets them both on a visit to hell--his abusive father chained up, and his mother a lioness. When he questions Etrigan about why his mother isn't in heaven, Etrigan states that one chooses their heaven, and his mother's heaven is being his father's tormentor in hell.
2nd Sep '15 10:09:51 AM imadmagician
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* Most atheists see any form of heaven as this, since they'd be forced to spend eternity with a group of devoutly religious people.


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* Most Many atheists see any form monotheistic / abrahamic depictions of heaven Heaven as this, since they'd be forced to spend eternity with a group of devoutly religious people.

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