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6th Aug '16 6:48:12 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* From the beginning ''{{Franchise/Halo}}'''s backstory had subversive elements. The awesome action hero Master Chief turns out to be that way because he was indoctrinated since childhood on how to kill. His OneManArmy status is irrelevant against an enemy who uses OrbitalBombardment. The unified human civilization of the future turns out to be not a benevolent federation but an authoritarian near-empire that just happens to be fighting aliens who are even worse. And sheer willpower by humanity turns out to be incapable of winning the war; humanity only survives because on an EnemyCivilWar tangentially related to this conflict that splits the invasion apart. If one just plays the games, though, the story appears like a straight "power of humans" tale, though later games are unifying the game stories and backstory more.

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* From the beginning ''{{Franchise/Halo}}'''s backstory had subversive elements. The awesome action hero Master Chief turns out to be that way because he was indoctrinated since childhood on how to kill. His OneManArmy status is irrelevant against an enemy who uses OrbitalBombardment. The unified human civilization of the future turns out to be not a benevolent federation but an authoritarian near-empire that just happens to be fighting aliens who are even worse. And sheer willpower by humanity turns out to be incapable of winning the war; humanity only survives because on an EnemyCivilWar tangentially related to this conflict that splits the invasion invaders apart. If one just plays the games, though, the story appears like a straight "power of humans" tale, though the later games are unifying have been increasingly bringing the game stories and darker parts of the backstory more.into the foreground.
15th Jul '16 7:45:34 PM WickedIcon
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** While it's definitely LighterAndSofter than ''IV'', ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' may be an even more severe example. The tone is much lighter and the organized crime aspects in general are shone in a much more flattering light, but somehow that just makes the darker aspects of the story all the more jarring. For example, Michael has a completely dysfunctional family life and a mountain of debt he owes to a government agent after striking a deal to escape his life of crime, culminating in Michael and his partners later being forced to [[spoiler:torture and kill]] on the government's behalf in order to return the favor, and two of the game's three endings requiring Franklin to [[spoiler:murder one of his closest partners.]] And don't even get us started on Trevor.

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** While it's definitely LighterAndSofter than ''IV'', ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' may be an even more severe example. The tone is much lighter and the organized crime aspects in general are shone in a much more flattering light, but somehow that just makes the darker aspects of the story all the more jarring. For example, Michael has a completely dysfunctional family life and a mountain of debt he owes to a government agent after striking a deal to escape his life of crime, culminating in Michael and his partners later being forced to [[spoiler:torture and kill]] on the government's behalf in order to return the favor, and two of the game's three endings requiring Franklin to [[spoiler:murder one of his closest partners.]] favor. And don't even get us started on Trevor.Trevor. [[JustifiedTrope This may, however, be part of the point;]] the game has a running theme of [[GreyAndGrayMorality showing multiple sides of every issue,]] and showing both the ups and severe downs of criminal life goes with this.
12th Jul '16 1:16:43 AM PaulA
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* The movie ''{{Adaptation}}'' is this on purpose. First, it explicitly states all the tropes it's not going to use, and in the second half it gleefully goes all out in using them. Not [[DoingItForTheArt for the art]], but as a commentary about ExecutiveMeddling.

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* The movie ''{{Adaptation}}'' ''Film/{{Adaptation}}'' is this on purpose. First, it explicitly states all the tropes it's not going to use, and in the second half it gleefully goes all out in using them. Not [[DoingItForTheArt for the art]], but as a commentary about ExecutiveMeddling.
16th May '16 4:52:13 PM Karxrida
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Compare SupposedlyRebelliousSeries, when a story appears to challenge metaconcepts, but doesn't. Compare and contrast DeconReconSwitch, where a work begins as a deconstruction but (intentionally) switches to a {{Reconstruction}} by the end.

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Compare SupposedlyRebelliousSeries, when a story appears to challenge metaconcepts, but doesn't. Compare and contrast DeconReconSwitch, where a work begins as a deconstruction but (intentionally) switches to a {{Reconstruction}} by the end.
16th May '16 9:53:28 AM CharlesPhipps
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* The ''Manga/Golgo13'' adaptation ''The Professional'' is largely just seen as a typical example of the series but actually portrays Golgo 13 as something of a psychopath who has ruined a bunch of lives by his actions. The fact it was just another job for him makes it worse.
11th Apr '16 12:27:34 PM MrKingXemnas
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** ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' made an additional point in this regard, discussing out [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot a major missed opportunity:]] when you switch sides, nothing changes about your squadmates' stats. Instead of trying to make a point about the invincibility of the former protagonists and how the severely outgunned rebels have to resort to cunning and trickery, the game simply "switches jerseys:" your rebel allies that were dying in two shots a mission ago can now heal back a burst from a rifle, while your power armored-allies now go down like mooks.

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** ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' made an additional point in this regard, discussing out [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot a major missed opportunity:]] when you switch sides, nothing changes about your squadmates' stats. Instead of trying to make a point about the invincibility of the former protagonists and how the severely outgunned rebels have to resort to cunning and trickery, the game simply "switches jerseys:" your new rebel allies that were dying in two shots a mission ago can now heal back a burst from a rifle, while your power armored-allies power-armored former allies now go down like mooks.
11th Apr '16 12:20:28 PM MrKingXemnas
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSwanPrincess'' attempted to deconstruct some Disney Princess movie tropes [[OlderThanTheyThink long before ''Shrek'' did]], such as having its princess point out to the prince that she arranged to get married doesn't have much reason to love her aside from her beauty, but this is brushed aside and they both get married at the end in spite of not having all that much relationship-building throughout the film. Also, they genuinely did not like each other at all during their childhood and adolescence and the princess had a spunky, proactive personality, but that's rendered moot with the grown-up princess having a more generic personality.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSwanPrincess'' attempted to deconstruct some Disney Princess movie tropes [[OlderThanTheyThink long before ''Shrek'' did]], such as having its princess point out to the prince that she their arranged to get married marriage doesn't have much reason to love her aside from her beauty, but this is brushed aside and they both get married at the end in spite of not having all that much relationship-building throughout the film. Also, they genuinely did not like each other at all during their childhood and adolescence and the princess had a spunky, proactive personality, but that's rendered moot with the grown-up princess having a more generic personality.
11th Mar '16 4:15:03 PM BrendanRizzo
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* ''[[Fanfic/ImHereToHelp I'm Here to Help]]'' was one of the first fanfictions to deconstruct the idea of [[Franchise/SailorMoon Crystal Tokyo]] as a shining utopia. The fic also tries to have a level of ambiguity by never actually showing Neo-Queen Serenity (who is accused by the protagonist of performing planet-wide brainwashing and enslavement to create her kingdom), spending very little time in Crystal Toyko (thus giving virtually no evidence that any of the protagonist's claims are true), and implying that the protagonist is also insane. Most of the reviewers see the ending ([[spoiler:the protagonist destroying Crystal Tokyo by changing the timestream irreversibly]]) as an uplifting, hopeful one, but the ambiguous nature of the actual situation leaves open the possibility that [[spoiler:Crystal Tokyo ''was'' a genuinely good world and a villain destroyed it]]. Complicating matters is the author's note at the end, which teased the possibility of a sequel story ([[WhatCouldHaveBeen never actually happened]]) "to explain what really happened", implying that the events of the fic were ''not'' meant to be taken at face value necessarily.

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* ''[[Fanfic/ImHereToHelp I'm Here to Help]]'' was one of the first fanfictions to deconstruct the idea of [[Franchise/SailorMoon Crystal Tokyo]] as a shining utopia. The fic also tries to have a level of ambiguity by never actually showing Neo-Queen Serenity (who is accused by the protagonist of performing planet-wide brainwashing and enslavement to create her kingdom), spending very little time in Crystal Toyko Tokyo (thus giving virtually no evidence that any of the protagonist's claims are true), and implying that the protagonist is also insane. Most of the reviewers see the ending ([[spoiler:the protagonist destroying Crystal Tokyo by changing the timestream irreversibly]]) as an uplifting, hopeful one, but the ambiguous nature of the actual situation leaves open the possibility that [[spoiler:Crystal Tokyo ''was'' a genuinely good world and a villain destroyed it]]. Complicating matters is the author's note at the end, which teased the possibility of a sequel story ([[WhatCouldHaveBeen never actually happened]]) "to explain what really happened", implying that the events of the fic were ''not'' meant to be taken at face value necessarily.
9th Mar '16 6:56:45 AM matruz
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* ''Webcomic/GirlsWithSlingshots'' does this with the main character, Hazel, she started as the UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, who always makes poor decisions but manages to pull through thanks to her dream boyfriend, friends and family to run damage control on her, however near the end this started to take a toll on her relationships which culminated with Zach breaking up with her and other setbacks; but in the ending it again plays the trope straight as out of nowhere she gets a book deal and although at the very end she makes the determination of becoming a better person, we don't actually get to see it.
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31st Jan '16 1:07:41 PM comicwriter
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* ''Film/StreetFighterTheLegendOfChunLi'' attempted to be a more realistic and edgy take on the ''Franchise/StreetFighter'' series by downplaying the {{Camp}} and mysticism, while supposedly showing a more brutal true to life depiction of violence. This is undercut immensely by still giving Chun-Li the ability to use KiAttacks, or a major plot point involving Bison transferring part of his soul into his child.

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* ''Film/StreetFighterTheLegendOfChunLi'' attempted to be a more realistic and edgy take on the ''Franchise/StreetFighter'' series by downplaying the {{Camp}} and mysticism, while supposedly showing a more brutal and true to life depiction of violence. This is undercut immensely by still giving Chun-Li the ability to use KiAttacks, or a major plot point involving Bison transferring part of his soul into his child.
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