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17th Jun '16 12:37:55 PM JackG
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* In the PilotMovie for ''[[Series/KungFu Kung Fu: The Legend Continues]]'' when Peter quotes his father back to him.
-->'''Peter:''' "Ah yes. Darkness shall overcome the light," as you would say. "But splinters of black will easily be crushed. The illumination of one candle shall forever touch mankind's luminous spirit."
-->'''Kwai Chang:''' I never said anything like that. Means absolutely nothing.
-->'''Peter:''' I know. Sounded great though, didn't it?
19th May '16 4:00:18 PM nombretomado
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* {{Lampshaded}} on "TheOffice" -- Michael's Last Dundies:

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* {{Lampshaded}} on "TheOffice" ''Series/TheOfficeUS'' -- Michael's Last Dundies:
19th May '16 4:00:09 PM nombretomado
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* ''TheMightyBoosh'' is fond of playing with these. "We all dream... but do we really dream?" and from the radio, "if you look at a pebble, you will see your own face!" is Howard's scornful example of Rudy Monchego's "simple rustic wisdom."

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* ''TheMightyBoosh'' ''Series/TheMightyBoosh'' is fond of playing with these. "We all dream... but do we really dream?" and from the radio, "if you look at a pebble, you will see your own face!" is Howard's scornful example of Rudy Monchego's "simple rustic wisdom."
18th May '16 6:52:05 AM JustTroper
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Compare MistakenForProfound, SeeminglyProfoundFool, WhenIsPurple. Compare ''and'' contrast ShaggyFrogStory. Related to TrueArtIsIncomprehensible. Has nothing to do with actual Ice Cream, ''Franchise/SailorMoon'' Character or [[Anime/ShatteredAngels the absolute angel]]. Might be confused with the famous Confucian sayings (which are also Chinese, but not Buddhist), which tend to be recited in YouNoTakeCandle English.

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Compare MistakenForProfound, SeeminglyProfoundFool, WhenIsPurple. Compare ''and'' contrast ShaggyFrogStory. Contrast ProverbialWisdom. Related to TrueArtIsIncomprehensible. Has nothing to do with actual Ice Cream, ''Franchise/SailorMoon'' Character or [[Anime/ShatteredAngels the absolute angel]]. Might be confused with the famous Confucian sayings (which are also Chinese, but not Buddhist), which tend to be recited in YouNoTakeCandle English.
14th May '16 1:22:25 PM Eievie
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->If you have ice cream, I will give it to you. If you have no ice cream, I will take it away from you. It is an [[TitleDrop Ice]] [[TropeNamer Cream]] [[{{Pun}} Koan]].

Something that looks like a {{Koan}} (a Chinese Buddhist riddle meant to encourage contemplation), walks like a koan, quacks like a koan, but lacks... [[FauxSymbolism substance]]. [[CrypticConversation It sounds meaningful at first]], but [[FridgeLogic after you think a moment]], instead of getting some rush of insight, you realize that it is [[MeaninglessMeaningfulWords nothing more than nonsense]], or just a joke dressed up in profundity's hand-me-downs. Like ice cream itself, it looks good and tastes good, but is ultimately just empty calories.

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->If [[SelfDemonstratingArticle If you have ice cream, I will give it to you. If you have no ice cream, I will take it away from you. It is an [[TitleDrop Ice]] [[TropeNamer Cream]] [[{{Pun}} Koan]].

Ice Cream Koan.]]

Something that looks like a {{Koan}} (a Chinese Buddhist riddle meant to encourage contemplation), walks like a koan, quacks like a koan, but lacks... lacks… [[FauxSymbolism substance]]. [[CrypticConversation It sounds meaningful at first]], but [[FridgeLogic after you think a moment]], instead of getting some rush of insight, you realize that it is [[MeaninglessMeaningfulWords nothing more than nonsense]], or just a joke dressed up in profundity's hand-me-downs. Like ice cream itself, it looks good and tastes good, but is ultimately just empty calories.



If done savvily enough, is indeed a form of TruthInTelevision -- the point of a Zen koan (literally "Public Case", a story), is to show that contradiction is actually a delusion, and help the student let go of the mental habit of arranging things into dichotomies (because both extremes, despite their apparent contradiction, are actually ''one thing''). Strangely enough, the TropeNamer above that actually mentions ice cream, while seeming nonsensical, does actually make sense.

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If done savvily enough, is indeed a form of TruthInTelevision -- the TruthInTelevision--the point of a Zen koan (literally "Public Case", a story), is to show that contradiction is actually a delusion, and help the student let go of the mental habit of arranging things into dichotomies (because both extremes, despite their apparent contradiction, are actually ''one thing''). Strangely enough, the TropeNamer above that actually mentions ice cream, while seeming nonsensical, does actually make sense.



** Peach was also slang for a very good person – as in the phrase "You're a peach" – which was almost certainly the meaning they were going for here. Even ''then'' it comes off very strange.

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** Peach was also slang for a very good person – as person--as in the phrase "You're a peach" – which peach"--which was almost certainly the meaning they were going for here. Even ''then'' it comes off very strange.



... The slippery mushroom.

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... The …the slippery mushroom.
8th May '16 9:24:02 PM nombretomado
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* ''HomeImprovement'': Tim Taylor was always accidentally inventing these, taking Wilson's wisdom and misquoting it later on in the show as mangled but humorous gibberish. An example: when his faulty memory turns a quote from Winston Churchill about representatives from each branch of the military being put together amounting to "the sum of their fears" when it sounds more to him like the Village People playing poker, into the following advice for his son: "You know Winston Churchill? Scared to death of the Village People."

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* ''HomeImprovement'': ''Series/HomeImprovement'': Tim Taylor was always accidentally inventing these, taking Wilson's wisdom and misquoting it later on in the show as mangled but humorous gibberish. An example: when his faulty memory turns a quote from Winston Churchill about representatives from each branch of the military being put together amounting to "the sum of their fears" when it sounds more to him like the Village People playing poker, into the following advice for his son: "You know Winston Churchill? Scared to death of the Village People."
1st May '16 5:41:49 AM JackG
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** Inverted in "Parturition", Harry Kim warns Tom Paris off pursuing Kes.

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** Inverted in "Parturition", Harry Kim warns Tom Paris off pursuing Kes."Parturition".



-->'''Kim:''' [[BoringButPractical If it works, use it.]]

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-->'''Kim:''' -->'''Kim:''' [[BoringButPractical If it works, use it.]]
1st May '16 5:40:36 AM JackG
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** In "Parturition", Harry Kim warns Tom Paris off pursuing Kes.

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** In Inverted in "Parturition", Harry Kim warns Tom Paris off pursuing Kes.



-->'''Kim:''' If it works, use it.

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-->'''Kim:''' -->'''Kim:''' [[BoringButPractical If it works, use it. it.]]
1st May '16 5:38:41 AM JackG
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** In "Parturition", Harry Kim warns Tom Paris off pursuing Kes.
-->'''Kim:''' There's an old Chinese expression. Stay out of harm's way.
-->'''Paris:''' That's not a Chinese expression!
-->'''Kim:''' If it works, use it.
26th Apr '16 1:17:43 AM aye_amber
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* SystemOfADown's "Aerials" is also composed of these. "Life is a waterfall/ We drink from the river/ then we turn around and put up our walls" WordOfGod has said that this song [[TheWalrusWasPaul doesn't really mean anything]], but that was just a joke. The song has been confirmed to be about how a mentally handicapped child looks at the world by both Shavo and Daron.

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* SystemOfADown's Music/SystemOfADown's "Aerials" is also composed of these. "Life is a waterfall/ We drink from the river/ then we turn around and put up our walls" WordOfGod has said that this song [[TheWalrusWasPaul doesn't really mean anything]], anything,]] but that was just a joke. The song has been confirmed to be about how a mentally handicapped child looks at the world by both Shavo and Daron.
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