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5th Mar '18 5:06:04 PM nombretomado
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* In ''TheSuffering : Ties That Bind'', Blackmore encourages Torque to kill Jordan, despite the fact that she's his most powerful ally and the two have a WeCanRuleTogether moment in the game's evil ending if you ignore him and spare her. Then again, this may simply be because Blackmore has zero impulse control.

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* In ''TheSuffering ''VideoGame/TheSuffering : Ties That Bind'', Blackmore encourages Torque to kill Jordan, despite the fact that she's his most powerful ally and the two have a WeCanRuleTogether moment in the game's evil ending if you ignore him and spare her. Then again, this may simply be because Blackmore has zero impulse control.
21st Feb '18 3:36:13 AM Nakuyabi
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* About fifty years later in ''Film/TheLastJedi'', [[spoiler: Kylo Ren ends up defaulting to this after Rey turns down his WeCanRuleTogether offer for the second time. After their falling-out and her departure, he then has to deal with General Hux, who was his political equal in the chain of command while Snoke was still alive and doesn't want to take orders from him. One ForceChoke later (to remind Hux who's got all the real power now that Snoke is dead), Kylo Ren has completely secured his KlingonPromotion and is the First Order's new Supreme Leader.]]
3rd Jan '18 2:05:31 PM Derkhan
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* ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'': While there seem to have been no deals made between Scabandari Bloodeye and Silchas Ruin regarding what they would do ''after'' conquering the new world they came to, Scabandari reasons that in due time there would be conflict between their people. As he puts it: "One must rule. Two cannot." NothingPersonal, though. Silchas surely would enjoy [[BuriedAlive eternal imprisonment]].
31st Dec '17 11:31:30 AM nombretomado
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* Used in an episode of Disney's GummiBears, when Duke Igthorne makes the mistake of putting Toadwart, his subservient dwarf ogre sidekick, into a suit of magic armor...

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* Used in an episode of Disney's GummiBears, ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfTheGummiBears'', when Duke Igthorne makes the mistake of putting Toadwart, his subservient dwarf ogre sidekick, into a suit of magic armor...
26th Dec '17 5:14:54 PM nombretomado
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** In the ''StarWars'' novel ''Literature/DarthPlagueis'', this was part of Sidious' TheReasonYouSuckSpeech towards Plagueis while the former is killing the latter with Force Lightning; their original plan was that, after Sidious was elected Supreme Chancellor of the Republic, he would promote Plagueis to co-chancellor, and form a BigBadDuumvirate.

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** In the ''StarWars'' ''Franchise/StarWars'' novel ''Literature/DarthPlagueis'', this was part of Sidious' TheReasonYouSuckSpeech towards Plagueis while the former is killing the latter with Force Lightning; their original plan was that, after Sidious was elected Supreme Chancellor of the Republic, he would promote Plagueis to co-chancellor, and form a BigBadDuumvirate.



** In ''[[FateoftheJedi Fate of the Jedi]]'', and its ''Lost Tribe of the Sith'' [[ExpansionPackPast tie-in]], the aforementioned tribe seems to avert this. In the series proper, when their High Lord [[spoiler: Taalon gets [[IntheBack cut open from behind]] by Vestara, she]] has to get out of Dodge, to avoid being killed in revenge... Also, earlier, a Sith ship's captain and entire crew just ''let themselves get executed'' as a scapegoat, 'for the good of the tribe'.

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** In ''[[FateoftheJedi Fate of the Jedi]]'', ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'', and its ''Lost Tribe of the Sith'' [[ExpansionPackPast tie-in]], the aforementioned tribe seems to avert this. In the series proper, when their High Lord [[spoiler: Taalon gets [[IntheBack cut open from behind]] by Vestara, she]] has to get out of Dodge, to avoid being killed in revenge... Also, earlier, a Sith ship's captain and entire crew just ''let themselves get executed'' as a scapegoat, 'for the good of the tribe'.
9th Oct '17 9:13:29 PM FordPrefect
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* Quite common in ''Franchise/StarWars''. In fact, this is more or less the modus operandi for Sith in general in the series, given that betraying and killing their masters is built into their dogma. The Rule of Two allows for a lot of Dark Jedi, even Dark Jedi with a bit of Sith training, but only two true Sith, and of those two, if the apprentice doesn't kill the master, the master ''will'' try to kill the apprentice. This is assumed from the start of pretty much every apprenticeship - the student will hold off on killing the master until enough has been taught or the master looks too weak, and the master will refrain from killing the apprentice until the apprentice becomes worryingly powerful; or until they've done all the errands the master wants; or until a more promising apprentice has been found and taken well into hand. The whole point behind the Rule of Two was harness this natural Sith tendency for betrayal into something that would still strengthen the Order instead of causing it to destroy itself periodically.

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* Quite common in ''Franchise/StarWars''. In fact, this is more or less the modus operandi for Sith in general in the series, given that betraying and killing their masters is built into their dogma. The Rule of Two allows for a lot of Dark Jedi, even Dark Jedi with a bit of Sith training, but only two true Sith, and of those two, if the apprentice doesn't kill the master, the master ''will'' try to kill the apprentice. This is assumed from the start of pretty much every apprenticeship - the student will hold off on killing the master until enough has been taught or the master looks too weak, and the master will refrain from killing the apprentice until the apprentice becomes worryingly powerful; powerful, or until they've done all the errands the master wants; wants, or until a more promising apprentice has been found and taken well into hand. The whole point behind the Rule of Two was to harness this natural Sith tendency for betrayal into something that would still strengthen the Order instead of causing it to destroy itself periodically.
9th Oct '17 9:10:56 PM FordPrefect
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* ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'': [[spoiler:Ego]] wants Peter join him in his AssimilationPlot. When Peter refuses, [[spoiler:Ego]] declares he can just use Peter as a living battery for a few thousand years and see if he changes his mind after that.

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* ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'': [[spoiler:Ego]] wants Peter to join him in his AssimilationPlot. When Peter refuses, [[spoiler:Ego]] declares he can just use Peter as a living battery for a few thousand years and see if he changes his mind after that.
9th Oct '17 9:09:51 PM FordPrefect
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Or if that is too long, Villain offers a chance to rule together, "hero" kills villain, takes MacGuffin and uses it to dominate the world himself. Word of advice to villains: if you're dealing with the kind of people who are willing to betray their [[TrueCompanions true friends and comrades]] for a taste of power, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder don't be surprised if they're willing do the same to]] ''[[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder you]]''. This is typically a StartOfDarkness but it can also be [[MultipleEndings one of the possible endings]] in a game that allows the player to choose FactionSpecificEndings or simply [[OmnicidalNeutral make everyone the enemy]].

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Or if that is too long, Villain offers a chance to rule together, "hero" kills villain, takes MacGuffin and uses it to dominate the world himself. Word of advice to villains: if you're dealing with the kind of people who are willing to betray their [[TrueCompanions true friends and comrades]] for a taste of power, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder don't be surprised if they're willing to do the same to]] ''[[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder you]]''. This is typically a StartOfDarkness but it can also be [[MultipleEndings one of the possible endings]] in a game that allows the player to choose FactionSpecificEndings or simply [[OmnicidalNeutral make everyone the enemy]].
23rd Sep '17 8:26:27 PM Eievie
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'''Hero betrays Villain'''

The villain tells the "hero" (think FallenHero, TragicHero, ByronicHero, certain types of AntiHero, or SociopathicHero) that We Can Rule Together, and why would he refuse? He has built up lots of [[KarmaMeter bad karma]] and [[KickTheDog kicked lots of dogs]] by now. The former hero likes the idea... except for that little "sharing" detail. As he's likely to point out, there is absolutely no reason ''not'' simply to slay the villain and take the throne or CosmicKeystone (or whatever else is on offer) all for himself, ruling solo.

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'''Hero *'''Hero betrays Villain'''

Villain''' The villain tells the "hero" (think FallenHero, TragicHero, ByronicHero, certain types of AntiHero, or SociopathicHero) that We Can Rule Together, and why would he refuse? He has built up lots of [[KarmaMeter bad karma]] and [[KickTheDog kicked lots of dogs]] by now. The former hero likes the idea... except for that little "sharing" detail. As he's likely to point out, there is absolutely no reason ''not'' simply to slay the villain and take the throne or CosmicKeystone (or whatever else is on offer) all for himself, ruling solo.
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'''Villain betrays Hero'''

Some [[MagnificentBastard especially cunning]] Villains give the We Can Rule Together speech, allow the hero to fall, and then reveal that...''gasp'' they were [[ILied lying]] about sharing! [[VillainsNeverLie Who would have thought?]] Alternatively, the offered FaceHeelTurn was [[SecretTestOfCharacter just a test]] by the villain to test the hero's trustworthiness. Then after joining the bad guys, the former hero gets RewardedAsATraitorDeserves because the villain [[EvenEvilHasStandards has a code of honor]] or is simply [[PragmaticVillainy experienced and knowledgeable]] about the [[NoHonorAmongThieves appalling lack of loyalty fellow traitors have for each other]] and know better than to trust the kind of people who'd go betraying all their closest companions for personal gain.

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\n'''Villain *'''Villain betrays Hero'''

Hero''': Some [[MagnificentBastard especially cunning]] Villains villains give the We Can Rule Together WeCanRuleTogether speech, allow the hero to fall, and then reveal that...that... ''gasp'' they were [[ILied lying]] about sharing! [[VillainsNeverLie Who would have thought?]] Alternatively, the offered FaceHeelTurn was [[SecretTestOfCharacter just a test]] by the villain to test the hero's trustworthiness. Then after joining the bad guys, the former hero gets RewardedAsATraitorDeserves because the villain [[EvenEvilHasStandards has a code of honor]] or is simply [[PragmaticVillainy experienced and knowledgeable]] about the [[NoHonorAmongThieves appalling lack of loyalty fellow traitors have for each other]] and know better than to trust the kind of people who'd go betraying all their closest companions for personal gain.
18th Sep '17 11:00:31 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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Some [[MagnificentBastard especially cunning]] Villains give the We Can Rule Together speech, allow the hero to fall, and then reveal that...''gasp'' they were [[ILied lying]] about sharing! [[VillainsNeverLie Who would have thought?]] Alternatively, the offered FaceHeelTurn was [[SecretTestOfCharacter just a test]] by the villain to test the hero's trustworthiness. Then after joining the bad guys, the former hero gets RewardedAsATraitorDeserves because the villain [[EvenEvilHasStandards has a code of honor]] or is simply [[PragmaticVillainy experienced and knowledgeable]] about the [[NoHonorAmongThieves appalling lack of loyalty fellow traitors have for each other]] and DangerouslyGenreSavvy enough to know better than to trust the kind of people who'd go betraying all their closest companions for personal gain.

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Some [[MagnificentBastard especially cunning]] Villains give the We Can Rule Together speech, allow the hero to fall, and then reveal that...''gasp'' they were [[ILied lying]] about sharing! [[VillainsNeverLie Who would have thought?]] Alternatively, the offered FaceHeelTurn was [[SecretTestOfCharacter just a test]] by the villain to test the hero's trustworthiness. Then after joining the bad guys, the former hero gets RewardedAsATraitorDeserves because the villain [[EvenEvilHasStandards has a code of honor]] or is simply [[PragmaticVillainy experienced and knowledgeable]] about the [[NoHonorAmongThieves appalling lack of loyalty fellow traitors have for each other]] and DangerouslyGenreSavvy enough to know better than to trust the kind of people who'd go betraying all their closest companions for personal gain.
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