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19th Jul '17 2:45:56 AM Nakuyabi
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* While Anakin does offer [[WeCanRuleTogether to make Padme his Empress]] in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', with his powers and her lack thereof, it's pretty obvious who'd have been doing all the ''real'' ruling if she'd accepted his offer, and he also goes so far as to tell her about his plans to overthrow his master Palpatine and rule the galaxy himself. The movie takes this trope to extremes as Emperor Palpatine is well aware of his apprentice's ambitions and even boasts to Yoda that he's certain Darth Vader will one day be even more powerful than himself.



* Quite common in ''Franchise/StarWars''. In fact, this is more or less the modus operandi for Sith in general in the series, given that betraying and killing their masters is built into their dogma. The Rule of Two allows for a lot of Dark Jedi, even Dark Jedi with a bit of Sith training, but only two true Sith, and of those two, if the apprentice doesn't kill the master, the master ''will'' try and kill the apprentice. This is assumed from the start of pretty much every apprenticeship - the student will hold off on killing the master until enough has been taught or the master looks too weak, and the master will refrain from killing the apprentice until the apprentice becomes worryingly powerful. Or until they've done all the errands the master wants. Or until a more promising apprentice has been found and taken well into hand. The whole point behind the Rule of Two was harness this natural Sith tendency for betrayal into something that would still strengthen the Order instead of causing it to periodically destroy itself.

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* Quite common in ''Franchise/StarWars''. In fact, this is more or less the modus operandi for Sith in general in the series, given that betraying and killing their masters is built into their dogma. The Rule of Two allows for a lot of Dark Jedi, even Dark Jedi with a bit of Sith training, but only two true Sith, and of those two, if the apprentice doesn't kill the master, the master ''will'' try and to kill the apprentice. This is assumed from the start of pretty much every apprenticeship - the student will hold off on killing the master until enough has been taught or the master looks too weak, and the master will refrain from killing the apprentice until the apprentice becomes worryingly powerful. Or powerful; or until they've done all the errands the master wants. Or wants; or until a more promising apprentice has been found and taken well into hand. The whole point behind the Rule of Two was harness this natural Sith tendency for betrayal into something that would still strengthen the Order instead of causing it to periodically destroy itself.itself periodically.


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** The novelization of ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' also indicates that while Luke was tempted to kill Darth Vader and take his father's place at Emperor Palpatine's side as offered, he was already feeling the further temptation to kill the Emperor too and take everything for himself.
13th May '17 10:46:53 PM TSBasilisk
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* ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'': [[spoiler:Ego]] wants Peter join him in his AssimilationPlot. When Peter refuses, [[spoiler:Ego]] declares he can just use Peter as a living battery for a few thousand years and see if he changes his mind after that.
11th May '17 12:53:12 PM TimeLordVictorious
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* In Series/DoctorWho, the Cybermen offer an alliance with the Daleks in "Doomsday". The Daleks don't even consider for one second, not even wanting to use the Cybermen as pawns.

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* In Series/DoctorWho, ''Series/DoctorWho'', the Cybermen offer an alliance with the Daleks in "Doomsday". The Daleks don't even consider for one second, not even wanting to use the Cybermen as pawns.
11th May '17 12:52:57 PM TimeLordVictorious
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* In Series/DoctorWho, the Cybermen offer an alliance with the Daleks in "Doomsday". The Daleks don't even consider for one second, not even wanting to use the Cybermen as pawns.
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7th May '17 5:50:08 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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Some [[MagnificentBastard especially cunning]] Villains give the We Can Rule Together speech, allow the hero to fall, and then reveal that...''gasp'' they were [[ILied lying]] about sharing! [[VillainsNeverLie Who would have thought?]] Alternatively, the offered FaceHeelTurn was [[SecretTestOfCharacter just a test]] by the villain to test the hero's trustworthiness. Then after joining the bad guys, the former hero gets RewardedAsATraitorDeserves because the villain [[EvenEvilHasStandards has a code of honor]] or [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy is too cunning]]. After all, why would the villain trust someone who betrayed his own cause?

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Some [[MagnificentBastard especially cunning]] Villains give the We Can Rule Together speech, allow the hero to fall, and then reveal that...''gasp'' they were [[ILied lying]] about sharing! [[VillainsNeverLie Who would have thought?]] Alternatively, the offered FaceHeelTurn was [[SecretTestOfCharacter just a test]] by the villain to test the hero's trustworthiness. Then after joining the bad guys, the former hero gets RewardedAsATraitorDeserves because the villain [[EvenEvilHasStandards has a code of honor]] or [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy is too cunning]].cunning. After all, why would the villain trust someone who betrayed his own cause?
7th May '17 12:59:34 PM EmperorZim
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Some [[MagnificentBastard especially cunning]] Villains give the We Can Rule Together speech, allow the hero to fall, and then reveal that...''gasp'' they were [[ILied lying]] about sharing! [[VillainsNeverLie Who would have thought?]] Alternatively, the offered FaceHeelTurn was [[SecretTestOfCharacter just a test]] by the villain to test the hero's trustworthiness. Then after joining the bad guys, the former hero gets RewardedAsATraitorDeserves because the villain has a code of honor or is too cunning. After all, why would the villain trust someone who betrayed his own cause?

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Some [[MagnificentBastard especially cunning]] Villains give the We Can Rule Together speech, allow the hero to fall, and then reveal that...''gasp'' they were [[ILied lying]] about sharing! [[VillainsNeverLie Who would have thought?]] Alternatively, the offered FaceHeelTurn was [[SecretTestOfCharacter just a test]] by the villain to test the hero's trustworthiness. Then after joining the bad guys, the former hero gets RewardedAsATraitorDeserves because the villain [[EvenEvilHasStandards has a code of honor honor]] or [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy is too cunning.cunning]]. After all, why would the villain trust someone who betrayed his own cause?
7th May '17 12:57:41 PM EmperorZim
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Or if that is too long, Villain offers a chance to rule together, "hero" kills villain, takes MacGuffin and uses it to dominate the world himself. Word of advice to villains: if you're dealing with a person who was willing to betray their [[TrueCompanions true friends and comrades]] for a taste of power, don't be surprised that they'll be willing do the same to ''you''. This is typically a StartOfDarkness but it can also be [[MultipleEndings one of the possible endings]] in a game that allows you to choose FactionSpecificEndings or simply [[OmnicidalNeutral make everyone your enemy]].

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Or if that is too long, Villain offers a chance to rule together, "hero" kills villain, takes MacGuffin and uses it to dominate the world himself. Word of advice to villains: if you're dealing with a person who was willing to betray their [[TrueCompanions true friends and comrades]] for a taste of power, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder don't be surprised that they'll be willing do the same to ''you''.to]] ''[[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder you]]''. This is typically a StartOfDarkness but it can also be [[MultipleEndings one of the possible endings]] in a game that allows you to choose FactionSpecificEndings or simply [[OmnicidalNeutral make everyone your enemy]].
11th Apr '17 8:11:47 PM Prometheus117
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* ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}: Web of Shadows'': The Visorak King Sidorak has long offered to share his throne with his second-in-command Roodaka in the form of UnholyMatrimony. She bided her time to take him up on it, however, until she manipulated things in her favor; soon after which she said this and left him to die fighting a very strong, very ''angry'' enemy beast. (Unfortunately for her, the puppet general she'd set up flipped the script and gave Sidorak's armies an out, permitting them to reject her rule and abandon her for her treachery.)
** BigBad Makuta [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Teridax]] used his Brotherhood to complete his grand plan to seize power, committing GrandTheftMe on the resident PhysicalGod and basically ''becoming one'' with the entire known world (revealed to be a [[SapientShip truly gigantic robot]]), allowing him to control everything inside of it and then use it to conquer other planets. The moment this hijacking works out (and even a bit before that) he begins killing off his own species, as he believed the Makuta were the only ones with the knowledge and power required to execute "The Plan". While the original plan was for the rest of the Brotherhood to rule alongside their leader, only a few of them even thought of the possibility that they could be betrayed. Since their entire motivation for overthrowing the Great Spirit in the first place was pride and jealousy at being eternally below him on the ladder of power, of course Teridax didn't trust any one of them to not try and do it against ''him''.

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* ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}: Web of Shadows'': The Visorak King Sidorak has long offered to share his throne with his second-in-command Roodaka in the form of UnholyMatrimony. She bided her time to take him up on it, however, until she manipulated things in her favor; soon after which she said this and left him to die fighting a very strong, very ''angry'' enemy beast. (Unfortunately for her, the puppet general she'd set up flipped the script and gave Sidorak's armies an out, permitting them to reject her rule and abandon her for her treachery. Surprisingly, she seemed much more willing to engage in WeCanRuleTogether with him, or at least with him as her subordinate.)
** BigBad Makuta [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Teridax]] used his Brotherhood to complete his grand plan to seize power, committing GrandTheftMe on the resident PhysicalGod and basically ''becoming one'' with the entire known world (revealed to be a [[SapientShip truly gigantic robot]]), allowing him to control everything inside of it and then use it to conquer other planets. The moment this hijacking works out (and even a bit before that) he begins killing off his own species, as he believed the Makuta were the only ones with the knowledge and power required to execute "The Plan". Plan" (and this was the ''second'' purge he carried out; the first was the one that weeded out the Makuta who refused to follow him and "The Plan" in the first place). While the original plan was for the rest of the Brotherhood to rule alongside their leader, only a few of them even thought of the possibility that they could be betrayed.betrayed (and the two that did ultimately became TheStarscream to try and stop it, only to fail and die, one of them even trying to warn the others of their upcoming betrayal before being killed). Since their entire motivation for overthrowing the Great Spirit in the first place was pride and jealousy at being eternally below him on the ladder of power, of course Teridax didn't trust any one of them to not try and do it against ''him''.
26th Mar '17 2:07:37 PM nombretomado
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* In the original ''OgreBattle'', if you win with a low reputation, you take the throne of Zenobia by force. This is generally a DownerEnding, though one such ending is potentially less of a downer from your perspective. [[spoiler: If you have a low alignment but a good Charisma, you build a Black Empire using dark magic.]]

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* In the original ''OgreBattle'', ''VideoGame/OgreBattle'', if you win with a low reputation, you take the throne of Zenobia by force. This is generally a DownerEnding, though one such ending is potentially less of a downer from your perspective. [[spoiler: If you have a low alignment but a good Charisma, you build a Black Empire using dark magic.]]
14th Feb '17 6:56:44 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* In ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'', ComicBook/RedSkull turns his son into a creature of immense power, Electro, and then proceeds to expand on how he is now going to conquer the world with Electro by his side. Electro asks why he should stand by anybody's side when he is the one with all the power, zaps his surprisingly [[GenreBlind unsavvy]] daddy and takes off to claim the world for himself. Except the Skull really ''is'' GenreSavvy, and is CrazyPrepared enough to have a plan in the event of such a betrayal.\\

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* In ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'', ComicBook/RedSkull turns his son into a creature of immense power, Electro, and then proceeds to expand on how he is now going to conquer the world with Electro by his side. Electro asks why he should stand by anybody's side when he is the one with all the power, zaps his surprisingly [[GenreBlind unsavvy]] daddy and takes off to claim the world for himself. Except the Skull really ''is'' GenreSavvy, and is CrazyPrepared enough to have a plan in the event of such a betrayal.\\
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