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18th Apr '17 6:55:19 PM nombretomado
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* In marked contrast, StudioGhibli's ''Anime/PomPoko''. Some fans call it "WesternAnimation/FernGully with a Brain". Some of the Tanuki believe that all humans are bad and they argue for open warfare against the humans - and even then, they have a hard time fully committing to this as finding food would be a great deal harder with no garbage bags to rummage through. Other Tanuki argue that the humans are simply unaware that Tanuki are real and can be reasoned with. [[spoiler:After the Tanuki take the gamble of going public, it turns out that this is indeed the case and the humans are happy to come to a compromise with the creatures, setting aside parkland for them to live in. Their default humanoid forms [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute are cute looking]] is a real help but no body makes pets of them.]]

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* In marked contrast, StudioGhibli's Creator/StudioGhibli's ''Anime/PomPoko''. Some fans call it "WesternAnimation/FernGully with a Brain". Some of the Tanuki believe that all humans are bad and they argue for open warfare against the humans - and even then, they have a hard time fully committing to this as finding food would be a great deal harder with no garbage bags to rummage through. Other Tanuki argue that the humans are simply unaware that Tanuki are real and can be reasoned with. [[spoiler:After the Tanuki take the gamble of going public, it turns out that this is indeed the case and the humans are happy to come to a compromise with the creatures, setting aside parkland for them to live in. Their default humanoid forms [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute are cute looking]] is a real help but no body makes pets of them.]]



* In ''Anime/PonyoOnTheCliffByTheSea'' (StudioGhibli must have a real fixation on this trope), Ponyo's dad makes it very clear that he thinks humans are bastards, and has been storing up potions to teach humanity a lesson (or something); ironically, his wife, the AnthropomorphicPersonification of the ocean is a lot more easy-going. In the end he reveals he doesn't want to harm humans too badly [[spoiler: because he allows his daughter to choose to become one.]]

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* In ''Anime/PonyoOnTheCliffByTheSea'' (StudioGhibli (Creator/StudioGhibli must have a real fixation on this trope), Ponyo's dad makes it very clear that he thinks humans are bastards, and has been storing up potions to teach humanity a lesson (or something); ironically, his wife, the AnthropomorphicPersonification of the ocean is a lot more easy-going. In the end he reveals he doesn't want to harm humans too badly [[spoiler: because he allows his daughter to choose to become one.]]
7th Apr '17 9:53:21 AM GentlemensDame883
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* ''Fanfic/AmbienceAFleetSymphony'': While ship girls are flawed, some very much so, it's baseline humans who commit or order most of the worst atrocities in the story. As Damon himself says on a few occasions, despite their artificial nature, ship girls generally are more humane than the actual humans.
2nd Apr '17 3:51:53 PM DustSnitch
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* Christianity states this is the whole reason for the Incarnation and Sacrifice of {{Jesus}}. Paul even yells at other Christians for [[{{squick}} having sex with their stepmothers]] (1 Corinthians 5)

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* Christianity states this is the whole reason for the Incarnation and Sacrifice of {{Jesus}}.UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}}. Paul even yells at other Christians for [[{{squick}} having sex with their stepmothers]] (1 Corinthians 5)
19th Mar '17 10:45:03 AM Sammettik
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*** His argument may indeed not be flawed if one considers recent human behavioural studies that provide evidence showing people often do things not to do good, but rather to feel superior compared to others and better about themselves. It's suggested that all kindness exists out of selfishness.
17th Feb '17 2:11:54 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'' plays with this, as a result of the FantasticRacism most humans accept as [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman the norm]]. The series shows that both sides in the conflict are equally capable of being monsters, portraying numerous cases of [[FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire kind Ghouls]] and the cruel humans that destroy their lives simply because of what they are. The [[TheHunter CCG]] embodies this trope to the greatest degree, encouraging a mentality that views all Ghouls as monsters and only giving token lipservice to sparing them from "extreme" suffering. When [[HalfHumanHybrid Kaneki]] and Touka visit the headquarters to give false information, the secretary they speak with reassures them with a bright smile that it's fine for Investigators to hunt down and slaughter a 13-year old girl, since she's just a Ghoul. Their organization regularly eliminates entire families (including children), arrests any humans that dare to befriend Ghouls, and are hinted to be engaged in horrifying experimentation on captured Ghouls. As a result, many Ghouls view humans with fear or disdain, with Tsukiyama even pointing out that ''humans'' are the species most responsible for death and destruction in the world.

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* ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'' plays with this, as a result of the FantasticRacism most humans accept as [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman the norm]]. The series shows that both sides in the conflict are equally capable of being monsters, portraying numerous cases of [[FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire kind Ghouls]] and the cruel humans that destroy their lives simply because of what they are. The [[TheHunter [[HunterOfMonsters CCG]] embodies this trope to the greatest degree, encouraging a mentality that views all Ghouls as monsters and only giving token lipservice to sparing them from "extreme" suffering. When [[HalfHumanHybrid Kaneki]] and Touka visit the headquarters to give false information, the secretary they speak with reassures them with a bright smile that it's fine for Investigators to hunt down and slaughter a 13-year old girl, since she's just a Ghoul. Their organization regularly eliminates entire families (including children), arrests any humans that dare to befriend Ghouls, and are hinted to be engaged in horrifying experimentation on captured Ghouls. As a result, many Ghouls view humans with fear or disdain, with Tsukiyama even pointing out that ''humans'' are the species most responsible for death and destruction in the world.
24th Jan '17 3:58:44 PM MajinAkuma
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*** This would later be subverted with the appearance of evil Malamar from the future who try to conquer the world through brainwashing, and it is never explained why they are evil.
20th Jan '17 10:01:10 PM Nintendoman01
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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' extends on the above ''Z'' example during the late Future Trunks Saga episodes with Barry Khan, a {{Jerkass}} actor and SpoiledBrat taken UpToEleven. For starters, he forces a stuntman to jump on a speeding tank ''without wires'', not caring if he gets hurt or even killed, and then [[spoiler: when he tries to flirt with Videl only to be shot down, he tries to ruin Gohan's marriage purely because [[NotGoodWithRejection he was pissed at being rejected]]]]. After he's [[spoiler: [[DemonicPossession possessed]] by a PuppeteerParasite named Watagash, all of his inner evil is brought forth, and he goes so far as to kidnap baby Pan in an attempt at petty revenge against Gohan]]. In a nutshell, Barry is easily one of the biggest, most evil bastards in the series, which is saying something given the monsters the franchise is known for, and he was already that way ''before'' [[spoiler: Watagash hijacked his body and gave him superpowers]].
17th Jan '17 6:29:33 AM DougSMachina
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Frequently it will be claimed that humans are the only species in the universe to [[ApeShLlNeverKillApe wage war on their own kind]] or kill just for the heck of it, [[ScienceMarchesOn which has long since been disproven by Science]][[note]]Penguins practicing rape and pedophilia or several tribes of monkeys and apes waging war on each other just being a few examples.[[/note]]. Still, the powerful message of this trope results in it being an UndeadHorseTrope.

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Frequently it will be claimed that humans are the only species in the universe to [[ApeShLlNeverKillApe [[ApeShallNeverKillApe wage war on their own kind]] or kill just for the heck of it, [[ScienceMarchesOn which has long since been disproven by Science]][[note]]Penguins practicing rape and pedophilia or several tribes of monkeys and apes waging war on each other just being a few examples.[[/note]]. Still, the powerful message of this trope results in it being an UndeadHorseTrope.
17th Jan '17 6:29:07 AM DougSMachina
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Frequently it will be claimed that humans are the only species in the universe to wage war on their own kind or kill just for the heck of it, [[ScienceMarchesOn which has long since been disproven by Science]][[note]]Penguins practicing rape and pedophilia or several tribes of monkeys and apes waging war on each other just being a few examples.[[/note]]. Still, the powerful message of this trope results in it being an UndeadHorseTrope.

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Frequently it will be claimed that humans are the only species in the universe to [[ApeShLlNeverKillApe wage war on their own kind kind]] or kill just for the heck of it, [[ScienceMarchesOn which has long since been disproven by Science]][[note]]Penguins practicing rape and pedophilia or several tribes of monkeys and apes waging war on each other just being a few examples.[[/note]]. Still, the powerful message of this trope results in it being an UndeadHorseTrope.
12th Jan '17 12:36:17 AM Doug86
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* ''ElGoonishShive'' isn't so much "''Humans'' are the Real Monsters" as "''{{Muggles}}'' are the Real Monsters." [[spoiler:Pandora justifies her attempts to break TheMasquerade and expose magic to the world by pointing out that whereas in the past, magic needed to be controlled because an army powered by magic would decimate one with naught more than swords and arrows, now any random fool with a gun can best a wizard--and humans have far deadlier implements than mere guns, such as [=ICBMs=].]]

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* ''ElGoonishShive'' ''WebComic/ElGoonishShive'' isn't so much "''Humans'' are the Real Monsters" as "''{{Muggles}}'' are the Real Monsters." [[spoiler:Pandora justifies her attempts to break TheMasquerade and expose magic to the world by pointing out that whereas in the past, magic needed to be controlled because an army powered by magic would decimate one with naught more than swords and arrows, now any random fool with a gun can best a wizard--and humans have far deadlier implements than mere guns, such as [=ICBMs=].]]
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