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10th Jan '18 4:38:01 AM isoycrazy
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* Michael, Fi and Sam of ''Series/BurnNotice''.

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* *''Series/BurnNotice''
** Michael Weston used to be a spy, or as some call it a thief on the government's salary, and still regularly pushes or even breaks the law to help his friends and the helpless people who come to him. He acts this way from a combination of loyalty to his higher ideals and his own abusive childhood which makes him staying back and letting the little person be hurt very hard to do. He spends much of the series trying to get his job back in the US Government because one, he is innocent of the crimes they burned him for, and two he wants to protect his country and family.
** Fiona Glenanne is a former [=IRA=] bombing expert. Much like
Michael, Fi she has lines she wouldn't cross even in her worst days after a tragedy drove her to terrorism. This includes not harming kids. While she wasn't on a friendly relationship with both Michael (her ex-boyfriend) and Sam Axe (he ruined one of ''Series/BurnNotice''.her business dealings when he was with the government) over the series, she grows to be a very loyal and fierce friends to both. To save Michael from his own desires to do anything to save her from a tragic mistake she makes thanks to a manipulative villain, [[spoiler:she willingly turns herself into the FBI for blowing up part of a British Consulate]].
** Sam Ax is a former Navy Seal. He is a fierce and loyal man. Threaten his friends and he will get angry very quickly. He will go to many lengths to help his friends or the family of friends, including some not-so-legal phone work to help locate a missing cop buddy, to when he saves [[BadassInDistress a kidnapped Fionna]], who was close to escaping anyway, and slams one kidnapper's head into a wall making a head-shape-whole in the drywall. Fionna is very impressed by this.
** In season 4 episode, "Made Man" the villain of the week is a Miami mobster boss Tony Caro. As part of the operation to take him down, the team first makes him think his bosses in New York had gotten to his crew and tried to kill him. When they then try to get him personally involved in a $5 million heist in merchandise, he isn't trusting until Sam is forced into telling him real and very personal story when [[NoOneGetsLeftBehind he stays with a friend in hostile lands when the guy was injured]]. Tony is moved and agrees to work with the crew. When they set him up and get him driving off with the merchandise and Sam is "captured" by a security guard, he turns the truck around to come back to rescue Sam because he is now fiercely loyal to Sam after hearing that story.
8th Dec '17 12:40:35 PM FoxBluereaver
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* In ''Fanfic/PokemonResetBloodlines'', there's a group of infamous criminals called the Seven Brothers of Orre, who made a pact of not to rat the others and not to have any children, ''ever''. The second youngest of them, named Felgrand, is ''not'' happy to learn that one of them hasn't been keeping his word on the latter part.
20th Oct '17 9:28:05 AM eroock
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* This is why [[spoiler:Marva]] claims they help you in the post game in ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''.

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* This is why [[spoiler:Marva]] [spoiler:Malva]] in ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' claims they help she ''does'' possess such honor. It's why she helps you post-story in the post game in ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''.Looker quest, she claims.
28th Sep '17 10:17:32 AM BeerBaron
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** In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'', all the main joinable factions have an associated book which outlines their basic ideals and makes the case for why you should join them. The ThievesGuild's book is actually called ''Honor Among Thieves'', and indeed part of the author's argumentation is that the Thieves' Guild is this trope made official (the major ''other'' part is that they aren't the murderous, drug-dealing xenophobic slaver scum the [[GenericEthnicCrimeGang Camonna Tong]] are).
** ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'': The Thieves' Guild in Skyrim is on hard times, but a few still hold out. When the player gets inducted into the Guild, they have the option of saying "Why do we need rules? We're thieves. We do what we want", which earns them a reprimand from the guildmaster Mercer Frey. [[spoiler:It turns out to be an act: Mercer abandoned anything resembling principles years ago, murdering the previous guildmaster, framing another thief, and stealing an artifact belonging to the thieves' patron Daedra, Nocturnal -- which is believed to be the source of their bad luck. During the final confrontation, Mercer openly mocks this concept, stating that as thieves all that matters is money. You're given the option to agree or disagree with him.]]

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** In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'', ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', all the main joinable factions have an associated book which outlines their basic ideals and makes the case for why you should join them. The ThievesGuild's book is actually called ''Honor Among Thieves'', and indeed part of the author's argumentation is that the Thieves' Guild is this trope made official (the major ''other'' part is that they aren't the murderous, drug-dealing xenophobic slaver scum the [[GenericEthnicCrimeGang Camonna Tong]] are).
** ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'': ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'': The Thieves' Guild in Skyrim is on hard times, but a few still hold out. When the player gets inducted into the Guild, they have the option of saying "Why do we need rules? We're thieves. We do what we want", which earns them a reprimand from the guildmaster Mercer Frey. [[spoiler:It turns out to be an act: Mercer abandoned anything resembling principles years ago, murdering the previous guildmaster, framing another thief, and stealing an artifact belonging to the thieves' patron Daedra, Nocturnal -- which is believed to be the source of their bad luck. During the final confrontation, Mercer openly mocks this concept, stating that as thieves all that matters is money. You're given the option to agree or disagree with him.]]
14th Sep '17 10:02:56 PM Gamermaster
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* A Light-Sided BountyHunter or Smuggler in VideoGame/StarWarstheOldRepublic. Yes, the Hunter captures and/or kills people for a living, the Smuggler sells black market weapons, and both of them are doing "off the books" and highly illegal privateering missions for their respective factions, but a light side run means they have higher ethical standards than most of their employers.

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* A Light-Sided BountyHunter or Smuggler in VideoGame/StarWarstheOldRepublic.VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic. Yes, the Hunter captures and/or kills people for a living, the Smuggler sells black market weapons, and both of them are doing "off the books" and highly illegal privateering missions for their respective factions, but a light side run means they have higher ethical standards than most of their employers.
5th Sep '17 11:32:52 PM WillBGood
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* This is why [[spoiler:Marva]] claims [[spoiler:she]] helps you in the post game in ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''.

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* This is why [[spoiler:Marva]] claims [[spoiler:she]] helps they help you in the post game in ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''.



* This trope combined with PragmaticVillany is why just about ''everyone'' respects [[WhatleyUniverse Whatley Academy]]'s status as a TruceZone. [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Even supervillains have families]], and ''nobody'' wants to see their kids dragged into their professional conflicts.

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* This trope combined with PragmaticVillany PragmaticVillainy is why just about ''everyone'' respects [[WhatleyUniverse Whatley [[WhateleyUniverse Whateley Academy]]'s status as a TruceZone. [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Even supervillains have families]], and ''nobody'' wants to see their kids dragged into their professional conflicts.



-->'''Penguin:''' True, he cheated me out of jewel encrusted statue of a two headed roc... It was worth millions. But my dear Batman, I would never snatch a fellow rogue from his sickbed. It simply isn't done.

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-->'''Penguin:''' True, he cheated me out of jewel encrusted statue of a two headed two-headed roc... It was worth millions. But my dear Batman, I would never snatch a fellow rogue from his sickbed. It simply isn't done.
5th Sep '17 11:27:31 PM WillBGood
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* The Mandalorians in the ''Literature/{{Republic Commando|Series}}'' novels and short stories. Except of course for the [[NoHonorAmongThieves evil ones]]. Likewise, {{BountyHunter}}s have an informal code of conduct and honor among themselves. It helps that many of the bounty hunting traditions in the 'verse originated from the ''Mando'ade'', and that Mandos (including the Fetts) are heavily represented among the best of the profession.

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* The Mandalorians in the ''Literature/{{Republic Commando|Series}}'' novels and short stories. Except of course for the [[NoHonorAmongThieves evil ones]]. Likewise, {{BountyHunter}}s {{Bounty Hunter}}s have an informal code of conduct and honor among themselves. It helps that many of the bounty hunting traditions in the 'verse originated from the ''Mando'ade'', and that Mandos (including the Fetts) are heavily represented among the best of the profession.
18th Aug '17 1:13:43 AM TheSinful
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* According to Jen in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8233291/1/Princess-of-the-Blacks Princess of the Blacks]]'' that there's a sort of "professional courtesy" among black wizards. It seems to amount to not intentionally interfering with each others operations, not selling each other out, and not killing each other. After [[TheStationsOfTheCanon Voldemort's resurrection]], she notes that she would have lied to Fudge and hidden Voldemort's return if he hadn't tried to kill her.

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* According to Jen in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8233291/1/Princess-of-the-Blacks Princess of the Blacks]]'' ''Fanfic/PrincessOfTheBlacks'' that there's a sort of "professional courtesy" among black wizards. It seems to amount to not intentionally interfering with each others operations, not selling each other out, and not killing each other. After [[TheStationsOfTheCanon Voldemort's resurrection]], she notes that she would have lied to Fudge and hidden Voldemort's return if he hadn't tried to kill her.
30th May '17 1:59:16 PM RandomNumberReactor
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** Played straight in [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2 the sequel]], which explicitly states Ravagers having a code, with "no children trafficking" being one of rules, [[spoiler: something Yondu has disrespected in the past]].
29th May '17 3:26:07 PM LadyJaneGrey
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* Surprisingly, the Penguin believes in a form of this in the ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' episode "Second Chance". Oswald has standards when dealing with fellow crooks, even when he owes them payback, as he tells Batman when the hero suspects him of ordering Two-Face kidnapped.

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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'':
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Surprisingly, the Penguin believes in a form of this in the ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' episode "Second Chance". Oswald has standards when dealing with fellow crooks, even when he owes them payback, as he tells Batman when the hero suspects him of ordering Two-Face kidnapped.


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* The Penguin also shows this slightly in ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'', despite being portrayed as far more unstable than he is in most versions, getting ''very'' angry at the Joker for violating "professional courtesy" by butting in on his robbery. ("You don't see ''me'' barging in on your 'gas all of Gotham' schemes, do you?" he shouts.) However, this attitude was dropped the second time the two villains met when they and the Riddler developed a rather dangerous rivalry.
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