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28th Sep '17 10:17:32 AM BeerBaron
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** In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'', all the main joinable factions have an associated book which outlines their basic ideals and makes the case for why you should join them. The ThievesGuild's book is actually called ''Honor Among Thieves'', and indeed part of the author's argumentation is that the Thieves' Guild is this trope made official (the major ''other'' part is that they aren't the murderous, drug-dealing xenophobic slaver scum the [[GenericEthnicCrimeGang Camonna Tong]] are).
** ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'': The Thieves' Guild in Skyrim is on hard times, but a few still hold out. When the player gets inducted into the Guild, they have the option of saying "Why do we need rules? We're thieves. We do what we want", which earns them a reprimand from the guildmaster Mercer Frey. [[spoiler:It turns out to be an act: Mercer abandoned anything resembling principles years ago, murdering the previous guildmaster, framing another thief, and stealing an artifact belonging to the thieves' patron Daedra, Nocturnal -- which is believed to be the source of their bad luck. During the final confrontation, Mercer openly mocks this concept, stating that as thieves all that matters is money. You're given the option to agree or disagree with him.]]

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** In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'', ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', all the main joinable factions have an associated book which outlines their basic ideals and makes the case for why you should join them. The ThievesGuild's book is actually called ''Honor Among Thieves'', and indeed part of the author's argumentation is that the Thieves' Guild is this trope made official (the major ''other'' part is that they aren't the murderous, drug-dealing xenophobic slaver scum the [[GenericEthnicCrimeGang Camonna Tong]] are).
** ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'': ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'': The Thieves' Guild in Skyrim is on hard times, but a few still hold out. When the player gets inducted into the Guild, they have the option of saying "Why do we need rules? We're thieves. We do what we want", which earns them a reprimand from the guildmaster Mercer Frey. [[spoiler:It turns out to be an act: Mercer abandoned anything resembling principles years ago, murdering the previous guildmaster, framing another thief, and stealing an artifact belonging to the thieves' patron Daedra, Nocturnal -- which is believed to be the source of their bad luck. During the final confrontation, Mercer openly mocks this concept, stating that as thieves all that matters is money. You're given the option to agree or disagree with him.]]
14th Sep '17 10:02:56 PM Gamermaster
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* A Light-Sided BountyHunter or Smuggler in VideoGame/StarWarstheOldRepublic. Yes, the Hunter captures and/or kills people for a living, the Smuggler sells black market weapons, and both of them are doing "off the books" and highly illegal privateering missions for their respective factions, but a light side run means they have higher ethical standards than most of their employers.

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* A Light-Sided BountyHunter or Smuggler in VideoGame/StarWarstheOldRepublic.VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic. Yes, the Hunter captures and/or kills people for a living, the Smuggler sells black market weapons, and both of them are doing "off the books" and highly illegal privateering missions for their respective factions, but a light side run means they have higher ethical standards than most of their employers.
5th Sep '17 11:32:52 PM WillBGood
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* This is why [[spoiler:Marva]] claims [[spoiler:she]] helps you in the post game in ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''.

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* This is why [[spoiler:Marva]] claims [[spoiler:she]] helps they help you in the post game in ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''.



* This trope combined with PragmaticVillany is why just about ''everyone'' respects [[WhatleyUniverse Whatley Academy]]'s status as a TruceZone. [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Even supervillains have families]], and ''nobody'' wants to see their kids dragged into their professional conflicts.

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* This trope combined with PragmaticVillany PragmaticVillainy is why just about ''everyone'' respects [[WhatleyUniverse Whatley [[WhateleyUniverse Whateley Academy]]'s status as a TruceZone. [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Even supervillains have families]], and ''nobody'' wants to see their kids dragged into their professional conflicts.



-->'''Penguin:''' True, he cheated me out of jewel encrusted statue of a two headed roc... It was worth millions. But my dear Batman, I would never snatch a fellow rogue from his sickbed. It simply isn't done.

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-->'''Penguin:''' True, he cheated me out of jewel encrusted statue of a two headed two-headed roc... It was worth millions. But my dear Batman, I would never snatch a fellow rogue from his sickbed. It simply isn't done.
5th Sep '17 11:27:31 PM WillBGood
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* The Mandalorians in the ''Literature/{{Republic Commando|Series}}'' novels and short stories. Except of course for the [[NoHonorAmongThieves evil ones]]. Likewise, {{BountyHunter}}s have an informal code of conduct and honor among themselves. It helps that many of the bounty hunting traditions in the 'verse originated from the ''Mando'ade'', and that Mandos (including the Fetts) are heavily represented among the best of the profession.

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* The Mandalorians in the ''Literature/{{Republic Commando|Series}}'' novels and short stories. Except of course for the [[NoHonorAmongThieves evil ones]]. Likewise, {{BountyHunter}}s {{Bounty Hunter}}s have an informal code of conduct and honor among themselves. It helps that many of the bounty hunting traditions in the 'verse originated from the ''Mando'ade'', and that Mandos (including the Fetts) are heavily represented among the best of the profession.
18th Aug '17 1:13:43 AM TheSinful
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* According to Jen in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8233291/1/Princess-of-the-Blacks Princess of the Blacks]]'' that there's a sort of "professional courtesy" among black wizards. It seems to amount to not intentionally interfering with each others operations, not selling each other out, and not killing each other. After [[TheStationsOfTheCanon Voldemort's resurrection]], she notes that she would have lied to Fudge and hidden Voldemort's return if he hadn't tried to kill her.

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* According to Jen in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8233291/1/Princess-of-the-Blacks Princess of the Blacks]]'' ''Fanfic/PrincessOfTheBlacks'' that there's a sort of "professional courtesy" among black wizards. It seems to amount to not intentionally interfering with each others operations, not selling each other out, and not killing each other. After [[TheStationsOfTheCanon Voldemort's resurrection]], she notes that she would have lied to Fudge and hidden Voldemort's return if he hadn't tried to kill her.
30th May '17 1:59:16 PM RandomNumberReactor
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** Played straight in [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2 the sequel]], which explicitly states Ravagers having a code, with "no children trafficking" being one of rules, [[spoiler: something Yondu has disrespected in the past]].
29th May '17 3:26:07 PM LadyJaneGrey
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* Surprisingly, the Penguin believes in a form of this in the ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' episode "Second Chance". Oswald has standards when dealing with fellow crooks, even when he owes them payback, as he tells Batman when the hero suspects him of ordering Two-Face kidnapped.

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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'':
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Surprisingly, the Penguin believes in a form of this in the ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' episode "Second Chance". Oswald has standards when dealing with fellow crooks, even when he owes them payback, as he tells Batman when the hero suspects him of ordering Two-Face kidnapped.


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* The Penguin also shows this slightly in ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'', despite being portrayed as far more unstable than he is in most versions, getting ''very'' angry at the Joker for violating "professional courtesy" by butting in on his robbery. ("You don't see ''me'' barging in on your 'gas all of Gotham' schemes, do you?" he shouts.) However, this attitude was dropped the second time the two villains met when they and the Riddler developed a rather dangerous rivalry.
4th Apr '17 11:34:06 AM hszmv1
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** It actually comes up a lot. Walter's own waffling on this trope causes no end of trouble for him.
4th Apr '17 11:29:00 AM hszmv1
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** Of course, the one time the "Guidelines" aspect comes up, there are still strict rules in play:
*** The first time was when the person invoking the Pirate's Code was not a pirate (the person who was was a pirate).
*** The next time was the same character invoking this lesson to the other pirates who were about to invoke their rule "He who falls behind gets left behind". Of course, she might not be a pirate, but they are, so they keep to the code.
*** The final time was a character using this to justify outright ditching the rules because they are guidelines. Unfortunately, he said this infront of the Keeper and Arbiter of the rules, who promptly shot him, thus shutting up anyone who thought otherwise. Turns out they're only guidelines when there is no one about to see them become guidelines. They are rules otherwise.
10th Mar '17 10:10:18 AM DeisTheAlcano
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* Uncle Jack from BreakingBad, who, while being a ruthless hardened criminal and leading a gang of {{Professional Killer}}s, treats his patners-in-crime as a family and absolutely abhors snitches and liars.

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* Uncle Jack from BreakingBad, ''Series/BreakingBad'', who, while being a ruthless hardened criminal and leading a gang of {{Professional Killer}}s, treats his patners-in-crime as a family and absolutely abhors snitches and liars.
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