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18th May '17 6:50:53 AM Briguy52748
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* ''Series/TheDukesOfHazzard'', Twisted in Season 4's "Nothing But the Truth." Boss Hogg sits on a syringe containing truth serum, and finds that honesty being the best policy could cost him his marriage (he lets slip he doesn't really love Lulu) and his life (when he reveals the truth behind one of his schemes to the authorities and names names).
* ''Series/TheHoganFamily'', In "Leave It To Willie," what Willie thinks will bail him out of serious trouble. After all, all you have to do is confess that you stole your father's convertible to go out for a joy ride (all while you're 12 years old and nowhere near having a driver's license), crash the car into a parked car and cause major damage, flee the scene even though there was an eyewitness to the incident, try to cover up the damage, and allow your big brother to take the blame ... and you'll get off scot free. Not so ... Willie's mother, Valerie, tells him that by not coming clean when he was asked, he lied by omission ... claiming he did not know anything about the accident that she just accused David of. So in essence, the [[AnAesop aesop]] becomes, "Honesty is the best policy when you are asked the first time, even when the truth is difficult and you could face severe consequences anyway."


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* WWF manager Slick's catch phrase was "Honesty is the best policy." Of course, he often averted it to so many degrees.
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* ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'': When they meet for the first time in ''Literature/AgentsOfArtifice'', Nicol Bolas gives Jace Beleren a pretty frank explanation of how he lost control of the Consortium and his secret attempts to take it back. And then when Jace asks "Why are you telling me this?", he further explains that it made for a magnificent diversion to get him to let his mental guard down, and immediately launches a telepathic attack.
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14th May '17 3:35:29 PM nombretomado
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* Zig-zagged by Kerrigan's first conversation with Mengsk in ''[[StarcraftI Brood War]]'': "The only thing I can assure you of, Arcturus, is that without my help, you'll be the Emperor of your own little eight by eight cell for the rest of your life." But earlier she had mentioned that she didn't want petty grudges to get in the way of her plans for the UED, which was a lie.

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* Zig-zagged by Kerrigan's first conversation with Mengsk in ''[[StarcraftI ''[[VideoGame/StarcraftI Brood War]]'': "The only thing I can assure you of, Arcturus, is that without my help, you'll be the Emperor of your own little eight by eight cell for the rest of your life." But earlier she had mentioned that she didn't want petty grudges to get in the way of her plans for the UED, which was a lie.
26th Mar '17 3:37:46 PM Anorgil
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** Also, the second-season's "Eye of the Beholder." Xanatos's "Plan D" consists of telling the Gargoyles "I fucked up, I need help." And that's the one that works. The "avoiding punishment" part comes in that the Gargoyles not only help him save his fiancée, but [[KarmaHoudini don't seek retribution on him]] for unleashing the crazy monster she'd become on the city in the first place. Their reason? [[LoveRedeems He's discovered love.]]

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** Also, the second-season's "Eye of the Beholder." Xanatos's "Plan D" consists of telling the Gargoyles "I fucked up, I need help." And that's the one that works. The "avoiding punishment" part comes in that the Gargoyles not only help him save his fiancée, but [[KarmaHoudini don't seek retribution on him]] for unleashing the crazy monster she'd become on the city in the first place.place (though they do demand that he give up the ArtifactOfDoom that caused her to become a crazy monster). Their reason? [[LoveRedeems He's discovered love.]]
14th Mar '17 9:23:10 PM TheDocCC
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* Subverted in an old hazing game where the pledges or newbies or what-have-you are told that "Honesty is the best policy." The pledges are then asked a question which ranges from reasonable to silly to embarrassing to malicious. The pledge then whispers their response to a referee of sorts, who then announces to the body whether the pledge has answered correctly or not. Those who have answered in correctly are subjected to some sort of punishment (again, the maliciousness of it depends on the organization). They are again reminded that, "Honesty is the best policy." Rinse, repeat. The solution, of course, is to ignore the question and simply answer, "Honesty."

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* Subverted in an old hazing game where the pledges or newbies or what-have-you are told that "Honesty is the best policy." The pledges are then asked a question which ranges from reasonable to silly to embarrassing to malicious. The pledge then whispers their response to a referee of sorts, who then announces to the body whether the pledge has answered correctly or not. Those who have answered in correctly incorrectly are subjected to some sort of punishment (again, the maliciousness of it depends on the organization). They are again reminded that, "Honesty is the best policy." Rinse, repeat. The solution, of course, is to ignore the question and simply answer, "Honesty."
14th Mar '17 9:22:10 PM TheDocCC
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* Subverted in an old hazing game where the pledges or newbies or what-have-you are told that "Honesty is the best policy." The pledges are then asked a question which ranges from reasonable to silly to embarrassing to malicious. The pledge then whispers their response to a referee of sorts, who then announces to the body whether the pledge has answered correctly or not. Those who have answered in correctly are subjected to some sort of punishment (again, the maliciousness of it depends on the organization). They are again reminded that, "Honesty is the best policy." Rinse, repeat. The solution, of course, is to ignore the question and simply answer, "Honesty."
23rd Feb '17 2:02:33 PM Euodiachloris
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** [[MoralSociopathy Bronn]] makes his [[HiredGun living]] (and keeps himself alive) basically by being Mr Honest -- if, occasionally, [[BrutallyHonest a bit blunt]]. He's totally up front about his skills, about what he will, won't and (if it comes up) has done, about being OnlyInItForTheMoney and when/where/how he'll say goodbye... And, as a result, no hard feelings -- which means he's unlikely to get a sword to the face from a disappointed ex-employer.

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** [[MoralSociopathy Bronn]] makes his [[HiredGun living]] (and keeps himself alive) basically by being Mr Honest -- if, occasionally, [[BrutallyHonest a bit blunt]]. Mr Blunt]], too. He's totally up front upfront about his skills, about what he will, will do (it's a long list), what he won't do (quite short if the money is good) and (if it comes up) what he has done, done (when it becomes relavant), also about being OnlyInItForTheMoney and when/where/how he'll say goodbye... And, as a result, no hard feelings -- which means he's unlikely to get a sword to the face from a disappointed ex-employer.
13th Jan '17 3:27:29 AM Euodiachloris
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** [[MoralSociopathy Bronn]] makes his [[HiredGun living]] (and keeps himself alive) basically by being Mr Honest -- if, occasionally, [[BrutallyHonest a bit blunt]]. He's totally up front about his skills, about what he will and won't do, about being OnlyInItForTheMoney and when/where/how he'll say goodbye... And, as a result, no hard feelings -- which means he's unlikely to get a sword to the face from a disappointed ex-employer.
** The Lannisters, as a group, tend to use this tactic in preference to many others -- the truth is often a more potent weapon than outright lies or any HalfTruth precisely ''because'' [[PragmaticEvil it can be verified]]. Jaime and Tyrion, in particular, are great advocates of saying exactly what they know when it'll serve them to do so. Both boys learned from Dad, although Tywin can be a bit more parsimonious with what he shares and with whom. Cersei... not quite so much: she can be a bit hampered by not always seeing why she should come totally clean (particularly as she has ''a lot'' of dirty linen).
** The [[PrivateMilitaryContractor Golden Company]] has this as a basic strategy: because they're known to be honest, the very rare occasions they do attack an ex-employer, or otherwise break a contract, everybody in both Westeros and Essos knows that either said (stupid) employer tried to screw them over in some way, or they are following a Blackfyre into battle on short notice.

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** [[MoralSociopathy Bronn]] makes his [[HiredGun living]] (and keeps himself alive) basically by being Mr Honest -- if, occasionally, [[BrutallyHonest a bit blunt]]. He's totally up front about his skills, about what he will and will, won't do, and (if it comes up) has done, about being OnlyInItForTheMoney and when/where/how he'll say goodbye... And, as a result, no hard feelings -- which means he's unlikely to get a sword to the face from a disappointed ex-employer.
** The Lannisters, as a group, tend to [[{{Pride}} towards owning what they do and who they are]], so they use this tactic in preference to many others -- others. Also, the truth is often a more potent weapon than outright lies or any HalfTruth precisely ''because'' [[PragmaticEvil it can be verified]]. Jaime and Tyrion, in particular, are great advocates of saying exactly what they know and what they have done (well, most of the time) when it'll serve them to do so. Both boys learned from Dad, although Tywin can be a bit rather more parsimonious with what he shares and with whom. Cersei... not quite so much: she can be a bit hampered by not always seeing why she should come totally clean (particularly as she has ''a lot'' of very dangerous dirty linen).
** The [[PrivateMilitaryContractor Golden Company]] has this as a basic strategy: because they're known to be honest, the very rare occasions they do attack an ex-employer, or otherwise break a contract, everybody in both Westeros and Essos knows for absolutely certain that either A) said (stupid) employer tried to screw them over in some way, or B) they are following a Blackfyre into battle on short notice.notice, so C) when they seemingly break their pattern, it proves the rule by throwing a lot of uncertainty into the mix.
30th Dec '16 8:18:34 PM nombretomado
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* The protagonist of DragonAgeTheCrownOfThorns can somehow pull this off even when he's setting up [[ThePlan plan after plan]] plus a [[spoiler:ZeroApprovalGambit]] on the side. He also manages to make people believe whatever he wants, like [[spoiler:Trian being dead when he isn't]] yet ''still'' avoids lying by phrasing his words as questions and hypotheses. That said, every one of his direct statements can qualify as BrutalHonesty.

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* The protagonist of DragonAgeTheCrownOfThorns ''Fanfic/DragonAgeTheCrownOfThorns'' can somehow pull this off even when he's setting up [[ThePlan plan after plan]] plus a [[spoiler:ZeroApprovalGambit]] on the side. He also manages to make people believe whatever he wants, like [[spoiler:Trian being dead when he isn't]] yet ''still'' avoids lying by phrasing his words as questions and hypotheses. That said, every one of his direct statements can qualify as BrutalHonesty.
6th Oct '16 10:14:00 PM Discar
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* ''Webcomic/{{Misfile}}'': Normally not relevant; since the world got hit with a CosmicRetcon that [[GenderBender turned Ash female]] and [[FountainOfYouth took two years off Emily's age]] while updating everyone else's memories to match, they know better than to try and tell people the truth. But it is referenced when Ash needs to break up with his/her girlfriend, and is looking for an excuse.
-->'''Emily:''' Honesty is the best policy.\\
'''Ash:''' Honesty would get us both locked in an insane asylum.
1st Oct '16 7:44:35 PM Euodiachloris
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** [[MoralSociopathy Bronn]] makes his [[HiredGun living]] (and keeps himself alive) basically by being Mr Honest -- if, occasionally, [[BrutallyHonest a bit blunt]]. He's totally up front about his skills, about what he will and won't do, about being in it OnlyForTheMoney and when/where/how he'll say goodbye... And, as a result, no hard feelings -- which means he's unlikely to get a sword to the face from a disappointed ex-employer.

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** [[MoralSociopathy Bronn]] makes his [[HiredGun living]] (and keeps himself alive) basically by being Mr Honest -- if, occasionally, [[BrutallyHonest a bit blunt]]. He's totally up front about his skills, about what he will and won't do, about being in it OnlyForTheMoney OnlyInItForTheMoney and when/where/how he'll say goodbye... And, as a result, no hard feelings -- which means he's unlikely to get a sword to the face from a disappointed ex-employer.



** The [[PrivateMilitaryContractor Golden Company]] has this as a basic strategy: because they're up front and honest, the rare occasions they do attack an ex-employer or otherwise break a contract, everybody in both Westeros and Essos knows that either said employer tried to screw them over, or they are following a Blackfyre into battle.

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** The [[PrivateMilitaryContractor Golden Company]] has this as a basic strategy: because they're up front and known to be honest, the very rare occasions they do attack an ex-employer ex-employer, or otherwise break a contract, everybody in both Westeros and Essos knows that either said (stupid) employer tried to screw them over, over in some way, or they are following a Blackfyre into battle.battle on short notice.
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