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22nd Jun '16 6:13:32 PM Materioptikon
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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', the Inter-Fiend Cooperation Commission invoke this when offering Vaarsuvius a DealWithTheDevil: they present their offer up-front without any JerkassGenie LoopholeAbuse, saying that "Contracts are for people with something to hide," and even suggest an alternate course of action to nudge V towards the deal. However, [[spoiler:they (but not V) know that the alternate plan is unworkable, they tactically omit that the deal lets them borrow V's soul while V is still alive, and they ''imply'' [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity that the Soul Splice can affect V's alignment]] so as to discourage V from taking responsibility for V's actions during the Splice.]]

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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', the Inter-Fiend Cooperation Commission invoke this when offering Vaarsuvius a DealWithTheDevil: they present their offer up-front without any JerkassGenie LoopholeAbuse, saying that "Contracts are for people with something to hide," and even suggest an alternate course of action to nudge V towards the deal. However, [[spoiler:they (but not V) know that the alternate plan is unworkable, they tactically omit that the deal lets them borrow V's soul while V is still alive, and they ''imply'' [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity that the Soul Splice can affect V's alignment]] so as to discourage V him from taking responsibility for V's his actions during the Splice.]]
3rd Nov '15 1:21:38 PM Discar
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* In the pilot episode of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'', Agent Coulson decides to earn the trust of Skie, resident anti-government hacker activist, by injecting his fellow Agent, Ward, with a truth serum and locking them in an interrogation room. [[spoiler: Subverted when it later turns out SHIELD doesn't have a truth serum at all, its left ambiguous as to how much of what Ward revealed while pretending to be under its effects was actually true and what was made up]]

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* In the pilot episode of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'', Agent Coulson decides to earn the trust of Skie, Skye, resident anti-government hacker activist, by injecting his fellow Agent, Ward, with a truth serum and locking them in an interrogation room. [[spoiler: Subverted when it later turns out SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. doesn't have a truth serum at all, its left ambiguous as to how much of what Ward revealed while pretending to be under its effects was actually true and what was made up]]up]].
11th Oct '15 5:35:50 PM nombretomado
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* In the ''Literature/{{Xanth}}'', by PiersAnthony, demons are infamous, not for being liars, but for being 100% honest at all times. They may not tell you the whole truth, but they'll never just make something up, because [[AwfulTruth a single truth will often be far more devastating than a thousand lies.]]

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* In the ''Literature/{{Xanth}}'', by PiersAnthony, Creator/PiersAnthony, demons are infamous, not for being liars, but for being 100% honest at all times. They may not tell you the whole truth, but they'll never just make something up, because [[AwfulTruth a single truth will often be far more devastating than a thousand lies.]]
3rd Aug '15 11:12:45 AM intastiel
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%%* Moist von Lipwig in the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/MakingMoney'' by Terry Pratchett. At least twice.

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%%* * Moist von Lipwig in the of ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/MakingMoney'' pulls this off in ''Discworld/MakingMoney'', utterly derailing a court case against him by Terry Pratchett. At least twice.[[spoiler:publicly admitting that he is a former con man who was {{recruit|ingTheCriminal}}ed by the Patrician. It throws off the otherwise unflappable 351-year-old zombie lawyer questioning him.]]
30th Jul '15 6:41:35 PM intastiel
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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', the Inter-Fiend Cooperation Commission play this technique beautifully on Vaarsuvius as part of a preplanned BatmanGambit. When they offer the elf near unlimited magical power, they are perfectly willing to explain the entire terms of service of their DealWithTheDevil up front, explain what they plan to get out of making the deal (but see below), and decline to produce an elaborate contract because, "Contracts are for people with something to hide." But the real clincher is that they are willing to point out an alternate route that Vaarsuvius could take to save his/her family without making the deal, confident that it wouldn't be chosen.
** The alternate course of action they offered wouldn't have worked (and they probably knew it). The plan would have worked as far as V knew, but it relied upon Durkon and Elan still being with the refugee fleet, when in fact they had already departed to join Haley and Belkar.
** It's worth noting that the IFCC ''didn't'' mention something rather critical, that being what they plan to do with V's soul. Suffice it to say that this leaves a rather huge Sword of Damocles hanging over the plot. [[spoiler: They let V assume they wouldn't claim the soul until s/he died, but that was never their intention at all, instead they use the debt to remove V from action at a critical moment]]
** They also told a teeny lie that Qarr the Imp figures out. They said that they extended their offer to Vaarsuvius because V was just the next person to come along. In fact they had been watching V for some time and waiting for the opportunity. And they are far from uninterested or uninvolved in the story's central plot about the quest to protect/control/destroy the Gates.

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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', the Inter-Fiend Cooperation Commission play invoke this technique beautifully on when offering Vaarsuvius as part of a preplanned BatmanGambit. When DealWithTheDevil: they present their offer the elf near unlimited magical power, they are perfectly willing to explain the entire terms of service of their DealWithTheDevil up front, explain what they plan to get out of making the deal (but see below), and decline to produce an elaborate contract because, up-front without any JerkassGenie LoopholeAbuse, saying that "Contracts are for people with something to hide." But the real clincher is that they are willing to point out hide," and even suggest an alternate route that Vaarsuvius could take to save his/her family without making the deal, confident that it wouldn't be chosen.
** The
alternate course of action they offered wouldn't have worked (and they probably knew it). The plan would have worked as far as to nudge V knew, but it relied upon Durkon and Elan still being with towards the refugee fleet, when in fact they had already departed to join Haley and Belkar.
** It's worth noting
deal. However, [[spoiler:they (but not V) know that the IFCC ''didn't'' mention something rather critical, alternate plan is unworkable, they tactically omit that being what they plan to do with the deal lets them borrow V's soul. Suffice it to say soul while V is still alive, and they ''imply'' [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity that this leaves a rather huge Sword of Damocles hanging over the plot. [[spoiler: They let V assume they wouldn't claim the soul until s/he died, but that was never their intention at all, instead they use the debt Soul Splice can affect V's alignment]] so as to remove discourage V from action at a critical moment]]
** They also told a teeny lie that Qarr
taking responsibility for V's actions during the Imp figures out. They said that they extended their offer to Vaarsuvius because V was just the next person to come along. In fact they had been watching V for some time and waiting for the opportunity. And they are far from uninterested or uninvolved in the story's central plot about the quest to protect/control/destroy the Gates.Splice.]]
24th Apr '15 12:54:07 AM JamaicanCastle
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** Oh, she was 100% truthful about that. Once her plans for the UED have come to pass, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness on the other hand...]]
4th Apr '15 5:49:14 AM Morgenthaler
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->''"I want an iron-clad lifetime contract, along with a full wipe-the-fucking-record-clean pardon for any and all prior acts. I know you don't trust me. The beauty is that ''you don't have to''. [[GodzillaThreshold Nothing I can possibly do will make shit worse than it is already.]]"''
-->-- '''[[TheUnfettered Caine]]''' (making his closing argument after TheReveal at the end), ''[[Literature/TheActsOfCaine Caine Black Knife]]''

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->''"I want an iron-clad lifetime contract, along with a full wipe-the-fucking-record-clean pardon for any and all prior acts. I know you don't trust me. The beauty is that ''you don't have to''. [[GodzillaThreshold Nothing I can possibly do will make shit worse than it is already.]]"''
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-->-- '''[[TheUnfettered Caine]]''' '''Caine''' (making his closing argument after TheReveal at the end), ''[[Literature/TheActsOfCaine Caine Black Knife]]''
9th Mar '15 12:01:48 PM Gowan
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* Moist von Lipwig in the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/MakingMoney'' by Terry Pratchett. At least twice.

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* %%* Moist von Lipwig in the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/MakingMoney'' by Terry Pratchett. At least twice.
9th Mar '15 12:00:45 PM Gowan
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* In ''Literature/DragonBones'', Ward does this several times. When forced to explain the presence of [[Really700YearsOld Oreg]], who has a strong resemblance to the Hurog family, he tells people Oreg is a ... "cousin", the known euphemism for "bastard offspring". This is true; Oreg is indeed a bastard son ... of a long-dead ancestor, generations ago. Ward's strategy for lying is to always stay as close to the truth as possible. Another example: When he asks for the help of a nobleman, Ward mentions that he needs to be absolutely honest, as this particular noble hates liars, and wouldn't help him if he lied. He knows it is better to admit he had been ObfuscatingStupidity than to continue doing it, and risk being caught.
10th Dec '14 5:42:12 PM DarkHunter
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* In ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanDeadMansChest'', Captain Jack Sparrow expresses surprise that even though he subscribes to this trope, no one believes him.

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* In ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanDeadMansChest'', Captain Jack Sparrow expresses surprise that even though he subscribes will often mix complete truth in with outright lies when manipulating people, which tends to this trope, no one believes him.make others surprised when they find out about the true parts.
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