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** Now, to be fair, they did have the portcullis closed at the beginning of the battle, hence why Snow White sent the Dwarfs as an infiltration team to open them. They should still have paid attention to the notion that the portcullis was being opened as Snow White's army was charging the gates.
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** Human infantry are squishy, heavily-outnumbered and armed with weak but massed ranged weapons. Rather than set up kill-zones and {{Defensive Feint Trap}}s and make use of explosives to counter their numbers, they simply send the enemy rushing over to fight the bugs in a ZergRush. Not very good when the enemy is the ''[[HordeOfAlienLocusts actual Zerg]]''.
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** Human infantry are squishy, heavily-outnumbered and armed with weak but massed ranged weapons. Rather than set up kill-zones and {{Defensive Feint Trap}}s and make use of explosives to counter their numbers, they simply send the enemy soldiers rushing over to fight the bugs in a ZergRush. Not very good when the enemy is the ''[[HordeOfAlienLocusts actual Zerg]]''.
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* The [[https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-i/the-battle-of-kovel-disaster-amid.html Battle of Kovel]] is a textbook example of the consequences of using Hollywood Tactics in real life.
** In 1916, the Russian Army decided to capture the city of Kovel, which the Germans then held. Responsibility for the capture of the city was given to the Russian Guards Army, an elite force composed of the best men Russia had to offer. Unfortunately, the Guards at Kovel were commanded by Grand Duke Paul, a pampered Russian aristocrat and personal friend of Czar Nicholas. The Germans had prepared the area for an assault, placing barbed wire and machine-gun nests along the front. The area around Kovel was a swampy marsh, and the only way to approach frontally was along three narrow causeways. Grand Duke Paul was ordered to take the Guards Army on a flank march. Complaining that a flank attack was below the dignity of such an elite force as the Guards Army, he disobeyed orders and launched a frontal assault.
** Two of Russia's greatest units, the Preobrazhensky Guards and the Imperial Rifle Regiment, marched down the causeways towards German lines, with predictable results. German machine-gun fire and aerial bombardment cut down tens of thousands of the approaching Guards. Many of the Guards tried to wade through the marsh, resulting in thousands drowning in the swamp. Making matters even worse, the Russian artillery had been ordered to bombard German positions in the center, on the assumption that the Guards would be attacking on the flanks as ordered. The Russian artillery opened fire, killing many of the misplaced Guards.
** The Guards proved their legendary reputation for courage; taking the German trenches with 70% casualties. Russian cavalry was now called up to exploit the breakthrough, but refused to advance in the nightmarish conditions. Without support, the Guards had to abandon the German trenches and retreat back to Russian lines under heavy fire. The disastrous assault had resulted in 55,000 Russian casualties, with nothing to show for it.
** In 1916, the Russian Army decided to capture the city of Kovel, which the Germans then held. Responsibility for the capture of the city was given to the Russian Guards Army, an elite force composed of the best men Russia had to offer. Unfortunately, the Guards at Kovel were commanded by Grand Duke Paul, a pampered Russian aristocrat and personal friend of Czar Nicholas. The Germans had prepared the area for an assault, placing barbed wire and machine-gun nests along the front. The area around Kovel was a swampy marsh, and the only way to approach frontally was along three narrow causeways. Grand Duke Paul was ordered to take the Guards Army on a flank march. Complaining that a flank attack was below the dignity of such an elite force as the Guards Army, he disobeyed orders and launched a frontal assault.
** Two of Russia's greatest units, the Preobrazhensky Guards and the Imperial Rifle Regiment, marched down the causeways towards German lines, with predictable results. German machine-gun fire and aerial bombardment cut down tens of thousands of the approaching Guards. Many of the Guards tried to wade through the marsh, resulting in thousands drowning in the swamp. Making matters even worse, the Russian artillery had been ordered to bombard German positions in the center, on the assumption that the Guards would be attacking on the flanks as ordered. The Russian artillery opened fire, killing many of the misplaced Guards.
** The Guards proved their legendary reputation for courage; taking the German trenches with 70% casualties. Russian cavalry was now called up to exploit the breakthrough, but refused to advance in the nightmarish conditions. Without support, the Guards had to abandon the German trenches and retreat back to Russian lines under heavy fire. The disastrous assault had resulted in 55,000 Russian casualties, with nothing to show for it.
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** In ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'', Lord Rust appeared to be an avid student of these tactics. He seriously intended to re-enact the strategy used by his nation in a famous battle, simply because it was a glorious battle - ignoring the fact that the strategy he was planning to use was used by the side that ''lost''. He defends his decision based on examples from other famous battles, ignoring his aide's comments that in said battles, the winning army was A) larger than the other side's, B) better equipped/experienced than the other side, C) extremely lucky, or D) entirely fictitious, as the battle came from a children's story. It's a good thing that Vimes showed up and aborted the battle...
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** In ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'', ''Literature/{{Jingo}}'', Lord Rust appeared to be an avid student of these tactics. He seriously intended to re-enact the strategy used by his nation in a famous battle, simply because it was a glorious battle - ignoring the fact that the strategy he was planning to use was used by the side that ''lost''. He defends his decision based on examples from other famous battles, ignoring his aide's comments that in said battles, the winning army was A) larger than the other side's, B) better equipped/experienced than the other side, C) extremely lucky, or D) entirely fictitious, as the battle came from a children's story. It's a good thing that Vimes showed up and aborted the battle...
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** In the book ''Discworld/{{Pyramids}}'' the Tsortean and Ephebian armies are lining up to face each other, and both sides build a load of wooden horses and hide in them.
** Averted in ''Discworld/{{Eric}}'', when the besieging army builds a wooden horse, and when the defenders are all gathered around it waiting for it to open, they sneak in through the back door.
** Averted in ''Discworld/{{Eric}}'', when the besieging army builds a wooden horse, and when the defenders are all gathered around it waiting for it to open, they sneak in through the back door.
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** In the book ''Discworld/{{Pyramids}}'' ''Literature/{{Pyramids}}'' the Tsortean and Ephebian armies are lining up to face each other, and both sides build a load of wooden horses and hide in them.
** Averted in''Discworld/{{Eric}}'', ''Literature/{{Eric}}'', when the besieging army builds a wooden horse, and when the defenders are all gathered around it waiting for it to open, they sneak in through the back door.
** Averted in
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** Running the other guy over with your armored ride was an old idea when Alexander the Great was around. Many military vehicles, when sealed, would be utterly impervious to World War Z zombies. The troops never think to use their vehicles as weapons or to force a breakthrough. [[note]](Zombies in this book mindlessly attack the closest human and try to break through or surmount any barrier stopping them. They would throw themselves at the vehicles to no effect. Modern tankers would realize their enemy had no means of conducting anti-tank warfare immediately. This leaves them inside a 60-ton invincible behemoth that can move about 45 mph. Modern fighting vehicles would be able to run down zombies, break through a position, or otherwise provide immense advantages.)[[/note]]
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* In S. M. Stirling's ''Literature/{{Emberverse}}'' novels, gunpowder and electricity suddenly stop working, forcing the characters to painfully re-learn medieval military tactics. A more specific example: in ''A Meeting at Corvallis'', [[TheLordOfTheRings Sauron]]-wannabe Norman Arminger ignores pointed warnings from his subordinates and, instead of picking off the various factions opposing him one at a time, launches a massive three-pronged attack that instantly unites everyone against him and ends in general retreat.
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* In S. M. Stirling's ''Literature/{{Emberverse}}'' novels, gunpowder and electricity suddenly stop working, forcing the characters to painfully re-learn medieval military tactics. A more specific example: in ''A Meeting at Corvallis'', [[TheLordOfTheRings [[Franchise/TolkiensLegendarium Sauron]]-wannabe Norman Arminger ignores pointed warnings from his subordinates and, instead of picking off the various factions opposing him one at a time, launches a massive three-pronged attack that instantly unites everyone against him and ends in general retreat.
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** There seems to be no established [[StrategyVersusTactics ground game or grand strategy]] for the planetary invasion. The troops simply land on the surface and run around in a confused mass, attacking Arachnid forces as they encounter them.
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Let's face it: most writers are not exactly the world's greatest tactical geniuses, so whenever a war's going on, expect a lot of dumb decisions from tacticians. To pour salt into the wound, these tacticians are sometimes [[InformedAbility explicitly said to be tactical masterminds]]. Some of the less-optimal strategies include:
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* Any use of obsolete weapons, tactics, or styles of warfare alongside the very weapons and technology that ''rendered'' them obsolete (e.g. swords alongside guns, mounted cavalry alongside tanks etc.). Unless the story is set during the transition with [[CurbStompBattle realistic results]], obviously.
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* The victors of the battle of Marignano would fall victim to this trope themselves--and by the victors, I don't mean "The French"; I mean "the very same specific French people who were at Marignano"--at the battle of Pavia several years later. The French actually outgunned their Spanish/Holy Roman Imperial opponents in artillery by a wide margin; unfortunately, King Francois I [[HonorBeforeReason decided to end the battle with a glorious cavalry charge]]. A charge which put him, his royal guard, and the cream of the French nobility ''directly between the French cannons and the enemy''. Needless to say, firing was not an option. End result: The French are defeated, Francois becomes the first post-medieval French ruler to become a prisoner of war, and King of Spain/Holy Roman Emperor Charles V is supreme in Italy.
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* The victors of the battle of Marignano would fall victim to this trope themselves--and by the victors, I "the victors", we don't mean "The French"; I just mean "the very French"; we mean "the exact same specific French people who were at Marignano"--at the battle of Pavia several years later. The French actually outgunned their Spanish/Holy Roman Imperial opponents in artillery by a wide margin; unfortunately, King Francois I [[HonorBeforeReason decided to end the battle with a glorious cavalry charge]]. A charge which put him, his royal guard, and the cream of the French nobility ''directly between the French cannons and the enemy''. Needless to say, firing was not an option. End result: The French are defeated, Francois becomes the first post-medieval French ruler to become a prisoner of war, and King of Spain/Holy Roman Emperor Charles V is supreme in Italy.
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* Strangely inverted in the opening movie of ''[[VideoGame/{{Civilization}} Civilization VI]]''. It depicts realistic WWII tactics like loose-order infantry advancing while firing on the run... except they're carried out by 17th-century Polish troops with muskets, who ''should'' be using old-school mass formations.
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* * In the first US-produced ''Film/{{Godzilla|1998}}'':
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** Also, helicopters. GINO is chasing helicopters around a city and for some reason the helicopter pilots [[AcrophobicBird completely forget that they can go up]], out of his reach. They stay at head height the entire chase rather than just flying up and away.
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** Also, helicopters.Helicopters. GINO is chasing helicopters around a city and for some reason the helicopter pilots [[AcrophobicBird completely forget that they can go up]], out of his reach. They stay at head height the entire chase rather than just flying up and away.
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* The {{Novelization}} of ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberiumWars'' has this in ''spades''. Among the most {{egregious}} examples of tactics in the book is a scene where a [[HumongousMecha Juggernaut artillery walker]] attacks a Nod machinegun emplacement. Does it use its cannons to bombard it from a distance as artillery emplacements are ''supposed'' to? No. Does it blast the emplacement directly with its cannons? Nope. It ''charges'' the emplacement and ''steps on it.'' Aside from the obvious stupidity of doing that, what kind of idiotic commander ''puts his artillery close enough to the enemy that it can '''step''' on their gun emplacements?'' Especially when the Juggernaut only has legs because it is supposed to stay out of the line of fire in the first place?
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* The {{Novelization}} of ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberiumWars'' has this in ''spades''. Among the most {{egregious}} JustForFun/{{egregious}} examples of tactics in the book is a scene where a [[HumongousMecha Juggernaut artillery walker]] attacks a Nod machinegun emplacement. Does it use its cannons to bombard it from a distance as artillery emplacements are ''supposed'' to? No. Does it blast the emplacement directly with its cannons? Nope. It ''charges'' the emplacement and ''steps on it.'' Aside from the obvious stupidity of doing that, what kind of idiotic commander ''puts his artillery close enough to the enemy that it can '''step''' on their gun emplacements?'' Especially when the Juggernaut only has legs because it is supposed to stay out of the line of fire in the first place?
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* ''LightNovel/HeavyObject'':
** {{Subverted}}, mostly. The story begins with the ''Literature/{{Starfist}}''-like claim that the eponymous Objects (a form of HumongousMecha) have obviated combined arms tactics because they're all but invulnerable to anything that isn't another Object (the first Object survived a direct hit from a submarine-launched nuclear warhead and remained sufficiently intact to finish off the opposition). Warfare has since devolved into "clean wars" with the unwritten rule that if your Object is destroyed, you surrender the territory and leave. The opening StoryArc proves that this not, in fact, the case when a special forces-like infrastructure raid destroys an enemy Object even after it had destroyed the friendly one in the theatre. Since the opposing faction had [[CripplingOverspecialization invested their entire war budget in the destroyed Object]], a subsequent counterattack by surviving tanks and infantry captures the enemy base.
** That having been said, in the anime adaptation, the prologue shows the aforementioned submarine surfacing to launch its missile. [[ArtisticLicenseShips Ballistic missile submarines have able to launch from below the surface since 1960 and no modern boomer uses surface launch.]]
** {{Subverted}}, mostly. The story begins with the ''Literature/{{Starfist}}''-like claim that the eponymous Objects (a form of HumongousMecha) have obviated combined arms tactics because they're all but invulnerable to anything that isn't another Object (the first Object survived a direct hit from a submarine-launched nuclear warhead and remained sufficiently intact to finish off the opposition). Warfare has since devolved into "clean wars" with the unwritten rule that if your Object is destroyed, you surrender the territory and leave. The opening StoryArc proves that this not, in fact, the case when a special forces-like infrastructure raid destroys an enemy Object even after it had destroyed the friendly one in the theatre. Since the opposing faction had [[CripplingOverspecialization invested their entire war budget in the destroyed Object]], a subsequent counterattack by surviving tanks and infantry captures the enemy base.
** That having been said, in the anime adaptation, the prologue shows the aforementioned submarine surfacing to launch its missile. [[ArtisticLicenseShips Ballistic missile submarines have able to launch from below the surface since 1960 and no modern boomer uses surface launch.]]
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* Both ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsCloneWars'' and ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' series display countless, repeated examples of this trope from the Jedi and the Republic in general, despite A) the clones being outnumbered by several orders of magnitude by the Separatist droid army (the latter manufactured in factories across the galaxy while the clones are only produced in a few small cities on one planet), and B) the Republic on the brink of winning the war by the time of ''RevengeOfTheSith'', pushing the Separatists to a handful of Outer Rim fortresses. This is despite the clones being allergic to cover and commonly meeting the droids (entirely viable) ZergRush tactics with their own, having minimal-to-non-existant armoured or aerial/orbital support, and generally being utterly useless unless a Jedi is around to help them (''especially'' in the second series). The few examples of competency, for example the unbelievably badass ARC troopers in the first series, just rub salt in the wound. The largest example of this is displayed in the first few minutes of the pilot film. Despite the clones having ample cover and artillery support to hold off the large amount of incoming droids, once Anakin springs his 'ambush' (a staggering ''5 soldiers''), the clones immediately jump out of cover and charge the enemy droids head-on. They predictably get slaughtered.
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** ''Film/TheLastJedi'':
*** The opening battle of the film has Poe Dameron take his single X-Wing in a frontal attack against a First Order dreadnought, the ''Fulminatrix'', to disable its deck guns so it can't defend against the bomber attack that follows. Reasonably okay except for the fact it's Poe hitting the dreadnought solo. The bombers take the form of vehicles that must ''drop'' their ''unguided'' bombs from underslung bomb bays, using a ''handheld trigger'', so that they fall onto the dreadnought from directly above, ''all of this taking place in space, i.e. zero gravity''. Additionally, they're flying in such close formation that the destruction of one bomber by enemy fire also takes out several others. The sequence is clearly another GeorgeLucasThrowback to UsefulNotes/WorldWarII movies, but a badly misplaced one.
*** The SternChase sequence leaves completely unexplained why the First Order fleet doesn't simply LightspeedLeapfrog the Resistance fleet so it can attack them from in front.
*** The Battle on Crait is overall acceptable. The First Order uses proper combined arms tactics, complete with a wing of TIE fighters flying close air support to HumongousMecha and the artillery piece sent to crack the Resistance's fortifications; the Resistance in turn entrenches itself with artillery of their own, and unlike in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' they only attack frontally because the artillery is invulnerable from all other directions. However, [[JustifiedTrope Kylo Ren allows his personal feelings to get the better of him]], ordering the fighters to chase after the ''Millennium Falcon'' instead of continuing to provide air support, which gives the Resistance ground forces a shot at the artillery.
*** The opening battle of the film has Poe Dameron take his single X-Wing in a frontal attack against a First Order dreadnought, the ''Fulminatrix'', to disable its deck guns so it can't defend against the bomber attack that follows. Reasonably okay except for the fact it's Poe hitting the dreadnought solo. The bombers take the form of vehicles that must ''drop'' their ''unguided'' bombs from underslung bomb bays, using a ''handheld trigger'', so that they fall onto the dreadnought from directly above, ''all of this taking place in space, i.e. zero gravity''. Additionally, they're flying in such close formation that the destruction of one bomber by enemy fire also takes out several others. The sequence is clearly another GeorgeLucasThrowback to UsefulNotes/WorldWarII movies, but a badly misplaced one.
*** The SternChase sequence leaves completely unexplained why the First Order fleet doesn't simply LightspeedLeapfrog the Resistance fleet so it can attack them from in front.
*** The Battle on Crait is overall acceptable. The First Order uses proper combined arms tactics, complete with a wing of TIE fighters flying close air support to HumongousMecha and the artillery piece sent to crack the Resistance's fortifications; the Resistance in turn entrenches itself with artillery of their own, and unlike in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' they only attack frontally because the artillery is invulnerable from all other directions. However, [[JustifiedTrope Kylo Ren allows his personal feelings to get the better of him]], ordering the fighters to chase after the ''Millennium Falcon'' instead of continuing to provide air support, which gives the Resistance ground forces a shot at the artillery.
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* ''Film/SnowWhiteAndTheHuntsman'''s beach battle is a hilariously bad depiction of medieval warfare. On one side, Snow White's army attacks the castle in an unsupported cavalry charge the defending soldiers can and do see coming from miles away. On the other side, the soldiers don't even take the most basic defensive measures like closing the gates and portcullis, letting said cavalry charge right into the courtyard.
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* ''Film/KingArthur'': You have a wall. A huge, fortified wall. Outside the wall is a horde of Saxon barbarians howling for your blood. Obviously, the most intelligent tactic in this situation is to ''open the wall's gates and allow the barbarians to march in so you could face them in a fair fight with your poorly armed and outmanned forces''. I can certainly see how [[KingArthur Arthur became legendary]].
* Played for comedy in ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail'', in which [[KingArthur Arthur's]] handful of knights charge the French castle on foot. Only Lancelot manages to reach the five-story stone walls, and he takes a single swipe at them with his sword before running away. Apparently John Cleese chipped the wall, which did not please the castle's keepers in the slightest. Terry Jones and Michael Palin revisited the locations and filmed them as part of the DVD release's special features. They found several chips still on the walls, apparently the result of multiple takes.
* Played for comedy in ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail'', in which [[KingArthur Arthur's]] handful of knights charge the French castle on foot. Only Lancelot manages to reach the five-story stone walls, and he takes a single swipe at them with his sword before running away. Apparently John Cleese chipped the wall, which did not please the castle's keepers in the slightest. Terry Jones and Michael Palin revisited the locations and filmed them as part of the DVD release's special features. They found several chips still on the walls, apparently the result of multiple takes.
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* ''Film/KingArthur'': You have a wall. A huge, fortified wall. Outside the wall is a horde of Saxon barbarians howling for your blood. Obviously, the most intelligent tactic in this situation is to ''open the wall's gates and allow the barbarians to march in so you could face them in a fair fight with your poorly armed and outmanned forces''. I can certainly see how [[KingArthur [[Myth/KingArthur Arthur became legendary]].
* Played for comedy in ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail'', in which[[KingArthur [[Myth/KingArthur Arthur's]] handful of knights charge the French castle on foot. Only Lancelot manages to reach the five-story stone walls, and he takes a single swipe at them with his sword before running away. Apparently John Cleese chipped the wall, which did not please the castle's keepers in the slightest. Terry Jones and Michael Palin revisited the locations and filmed them as part of the DVD release's special features. They found several chips still on the walls, apparently the result of multiple takes.
* Played for comedy in ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail'', in which
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* The {{Novelization}} of ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberiumWars'' has this in ''spades''. Among the most {{egregious}} examples of tactics in the book is a scene where a [[HumongousMecha Juggernaut artillery walker]] attacks a Nod machinegun emplacement. Does it use its cannons to bombard it from a distance as artillery emplacements are ''supposed'' to? No. Does it blast the emplacement directly with its cannons? Nope. It ''charges'' the emplacement and ''steps on it.'' Aside from the obvious stupidity of doing that, what kind of idiotic commander ''puts his artillery close enough to the enemy that it can '''step''' on their gun emplacements?'' Especially when the Juggernaut only has legs because it is supposed to stay out of the line of fire in the first place? (We have a trope page for the FixFic ''FanFic/TiberiumWars'', by the way.)
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* The {{Novelization}} of ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberiumWars'' has this in ''spades''. Among the most {{egregious}} examples of tactics in the book is a scene where a [[HumongousMecha Juggernaut artillery walker]] attacks a Nod machinegun emplacement. Does it use its cannons to bombard it from a distance as artillery emplacements are ''supposed'' to? No. Does it blast the emplacement directly with its cannons? Nope. It ''charges'' the emplacement and ''steps on it.'' Aside from the obvious stupidity of doing that, what kind of idiotic commander ''puts his artillery close enough to the enemy that it can '''step''' on their gun emplacements?'' Especially when the Juggernaut only has legs because it is supposed to stay out of the line of fire in the first place? (We have a trope page for the FixFic ''FanFic/TiberiumWars'', by the way.)place?
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* The psychological attacks made by the Whites during the [[RedOctober Russian Civil War]]. Involved soldiers marching straight to the enemy lines, without ducking, ignoring bullets. Some generals added twists to the basic tactic: the Volunteer Army men smoked cigarettes while marching, General Slaschev's men ate sunflower seeds. The aim was to intimidate the Reds with the Whites' fearlessness. Usually it didn't work, but sometimes it did.
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* The psychological attacks made by the Whites during the [[RedOctober [[UsefulNotes/RedOctober Russian Civil War]]. Involved soldiers marching straight to the enemy lines, without ducking, ignoring bullets. Some generals added twists to the basic tactic: the Volunteer Army men smoked cigarettes while marching, General Slaschev's men ate sunflower seeds. The aim was to intimidate the Reds with the Whites' fearlessness. Usually it didn't work, but sometimes it did.
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* In S. M. Stirling's ''{{Emberverse}}'' novels, gunpowder and electricity suddenly stop working, forcing the characters to painfully re-learn medieval military tactics. A more specific example: in ''A Meeting at Corvallis'', [[TheLordOfTheRings Sauron]]-wannabe Norman Arminger ignores pointed warnings from his subordinates and, instead of picking off the various factions opposing him one at a time, launches a massive three-pronged attack that instantly unites everyone against him and ends in general retreat.
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* In S. M. Stirling's ''{{Emberverse}}'' ''Literature/{{Emberverse}}'' novels, gunpowder and electricity suddenly stop working, forcing the characters to painfully re-learn medieval military tactics. A more specific example: in ''A Meeting at Corvallis'', [[TheLordOfTheRings Sauron]]-wannabe Norman Arminger ignores pointed warnings from his subordinates and, instead of picking off the various factions opposing him one at a time, launches a massive three-pronged attack that instantly unites everyone against him and ends in general retreat.
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* Subverted in KurtVonnegut's ''Literature/TheSirensOfTitan'': humanity is able to beat a Martian invasion because Martian 'strategy' consists of light weapons and infantry, announcing their position over radio to the militaries of Earth and stretching their armies to attack every country at once. The book portrays this as terrible planning on the part of the Martians... until we learn that actually, [[spoiler:Rumfoord had deliberately made them use terrible tactics, in order to make them easy to beat, yet still seem like a scary enough enemy to encourage the nations of Earth to co-operate]].
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* Subverted in KurtVonnegut's Creator/KurtVonnegut's ''Literature/TheSirensOfTitan'': humanity is able to beat a Martian invasion because Martian 'strategy' consists of light weapons and infantry, announcing their position over radio to the militaries of Earth and stretching their armies to attack every country at once. The book portrays this as terrible planning on the part of the Martians... until we learn that actually, [[spoiler:Rumfoord had deliberately made them use terrible tactics, in order to make them easy to beat, yet still seem like a scary enough enemy to encourage the nations of Earth to co-operate]].
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* Although it is never addressed in-game, some level of tactics is definitely required to survive ''{{X-Com}}'' games. Many a LetsPlay of ''{{X-Com}}'' spend a few minutes with the player outlining suppression strategies they plan to use while arming their men and then watch as they fail spectacularly. After they get together competent Psi/Molecular Control teams, tactics rarely venture beyond "make enemy ''kill themselves''". In the early game your lightly armed and unarmored troops tend to get slaughtered by the aliens in any sort of firefight. A good tactic is to just blow up everything with high explosives and follow that up with cannon fire and grenades.
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* Although it is never addressed in-game, some level of tactics is definitely required to survive ''{{X-Com}}'' ''VideoGame/XCom'' games. Many a LetsPlay of ''{{X-Com}}'' ''VideoGame/XCom'' spend a few minutes with the player outlining suppression strategies they plan to use while arming their men and then watch as they fail spectacularly. After they get together competent Psi/Molecular Control teams, tactics rarely venture beyond "make enemy ''kill themselves''". In the early game your lightly armed and unarmored troops tend to get slaughtered by the aliens in any sort of firefight. A good tactic is to just blow up everything with high explosives and follow that up with cannon fire and grenades.
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* ''Film/TheMagnificentSeven2016'': The final battle is a perfect example of [[CurbStompBattle just how effective]] these tactics would be against an opponent who uses ''actual'' tactics.
** On the attackers' side, Bogue's goons ride straight towards the town in a mad charge without bothering to check what possible countermeasures might be in place, all the while Bogue makes no attempt to use [[spoiler: the Gatling gun]] he brought along until ''after'' most of his men had gotten either slaughtered... or pinned down in the line of fire.
** The defenders on the other hand employ every single force multiplier available to them: using skirmishers, a variety of traps and obstacles, fighting trenches, sharpshooters in elevated positions, and exploiting the terrain (and the poorly-thought-out tactics of Bogue's hired guns) to lure his men into a series of ambushes.
** That said, [[spoiler: Goodnight and Billy]] meet their end because they made the critical error of [[spoiler: sniping from a very obvious location with limited cover]], despite the fact that the film made a show of them discussing the pros and cons of various locations ahead of time.
** On the attackers' side, Bogue's goons ride straight towards the town in a mad charge without bothering to check what possible countermeasures might be in place, all the while Bogue makes no attempt to use [[spoiler: the Gatling gun]] he brought along until ''after'' most of his men had gotten either slaughtered... or pinned down in the line of fire.
** The defenders on the other hand employ every single force multiplier available to them: using skirmishers, a variety of traps and obstacles, fighting trenches, sharpshooters in elevated positions, and exploiting the terrain (and the poorly-thought-out tactics of Bogue's hired guns) to lure his men into a series of ambushes.
** That said, [[spoiler: Goodnight and Billy]] meet their end because they made the critical error of [[spoiler: sniping from a very obvious location with limited cover]], despite the fact that the film made a show of them discussing the pros and cons of various locations ahead of time.
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* ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'': The apes begin their attack on the surviving humans by charging down a narrow street, thickly packed together and making no effort to seek cover. Though they do eventually succeed in capturing the humans, they take heavy casualties in the process.
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Some critics see Hollywood Tactics as evidence of evil "Hollywood's politics" insisting that [[ArmiesAreEvil the military is always bad/wrong/evil]]. The concurrent claim that they tend "to be averted in the works of writers who actually served in the military, or even have significant military experience, including (among others) Creator/JohnRingo, DavidDrake, Tom Clancy, and Creator/RobertAHeinlein", which however sees these authors' pro-military if not militaristic bent as more important than their actual military experience (Heinlein served five years in the peacetime U. S. Navy before having to retire due to tuberculosis, Clancy did not serve at all due to bad eyesight). It should be noted, that military experience does not guarantee immunity from proposing terrible tactics and strategies, as for instance a lot of the literature produced about "the coming war" by retired and active military men before World War I demonstrates. And in real life even the best generals can use self-defeating tactics on an off day, even Robert E. Lee had his Pickett's Charge.
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Some critics see Hollywood Tactics as evidence of evil "Hollywood's politics" insisting that [[ArmiesAreEvil the military is always bad/wrong/evil]]. The concurrent claim that they tend "to be averted in the works of writers who actually served in the military, or even have significant military experience, including (among others) Creator/JohnRingo, DavidDrake, Creator/DavidDrake, Tom Clancy, and Creator/RobertAHeinlein", which however sees these authors' pro-military if not militaristic bent as more important than their actual military experience (Heinlein served five years in the peacetime U. S. Navy before having to retire due to tuberculosis, Clancy did not serve at all due to bad eyesight). It should be noted, that military experience does not guarantee immunity from proposing terrible tactics and strategies, as for instance a lot of the literature produced about "the coming war" by retired and active military men before World War I demonstrates. And in real life even the best generals can use self-defeating tactics on an off day, even Robert E. Lee had his Pickett's Charge.
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* ''[[Series/{{V}} V: The Final Battle]]'' was full of Hollywood tactics. Some examples:
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* ''CryHavoc'' mainly averts this, but plays it straight when it comes to psychers. Their psychic powers can make them virtually bullet proof, and allow for some very hollywood-esq tactics including a one (wo)man ZergRush against dug in opponents. The rest of the time, the dogs of war and rebels use real tactics such as suppression, maneuver, misinformation, combined arms, and ambush reaction.
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* ''CryHavoc'' ''Webcomic/CryHavoc'' mainly averts this, but plays it straight when it comes to psychers. Their psychic powers can make them virtually bullet proof, and allow for some very hollywood-esq tactics including a one (wo)man ZergRush against dug in opponents. The rest of the time, the dogs of war and rebels use real tactics such as suppression, maneuver, misinformation, combined arms, and ambush reaction.
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-->'''Torg:''' ''Alright'', we'll need some of the townsfolk to chop down trees, mine for gold, and set up solar collectors in case we need to build more troops. Do we have any dragons yet?
-->'''Val:''' Why are the cute ones always insane?
-->'''Val:''' Why are the cute ones always insane?
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-->'''Torg:''' ''Alright'', we'll need some of the townsfolk to chop down trees, mine for gold, and set up solar collectors in case we need to build more troops. Do we have any dragons yet?
-->'''Val:'''yet?\\
'''Val:''' Why are the cute ones always insane?
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'''Val:''' Why are the cute ones always insane?
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* ''GIJoe''. Just to start, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN034sBeF4c the opening for the movie]] has COBRA's apparent goal to be destroying the Statue of Liberty. After somehow getting an airship right above it, instead of using a missile or dropping some bombs, they send hundreds of paratroopers (who would be falling all over each other if they're that close) and a couple air vehicles down to set one time bomb at the base of it and they have ships for backup which didn't even try to do anything until they were within about twenty feet of the island and got blown up by Joe fighter planes.
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* ''GIJoe''.''WesternAnimation/GIJoe''. Just to start, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN034sBeF4c the opening for the movie]] has COBRA's apparent goal to be destroying the Statue of Liberty. After somehow getting an airship right above it, instead of using a missile or dropping some bombs, they send hundreds of paratroopers (who would be falling all over each other if they're that close) and a couple air vehicles down to set one time bomb at the base of it and they have ships for backup which didn't even try to do anything until they were within about twenty feet of the island and got blown up by Joe fighter planes.
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** In the book ''Discworld/{{Pyramids}}'' the Tsortean and Agatean armies are lining up to face each other, and both sides build a load of wooden horses and hide in them.
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** In the book ''Discworld/{{Pyramids}}'' the Tsortean and Agatean Ephebian armies are lining up to face each other, and both sides build a load of wooden horses and hide in them.
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->''It is magnificent, but it is not war. It is madness.''
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* ''[[Series/BabylonFive Babylon 5: The Legend of the Rangers]]''. "We do not retreat, whatever the reason." A rather stupid tactic for a group known as 'Rangers', whose job often involves [[BringNewsBack bringing back information]] on mysterious aliens of [[OutsideContextVillain terrifying technological superiority]].
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* ''[[Series/BabylonFive Babylon 5: The Legend of the Rangers]]''. "We do not retreat, whatever the reason." A rather stupid tactic for a group known as 'Rangers', whose job often involves [[BringNewsBack bringing back information]] on mysterious aliens of [[OutsideContextVillain [[TechnologicallyAdvancedFoe terrifying technological superiority]].
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* In space battles ([[AcrophobicBird or using aircraft]]), [[{{Two-DSpace}} failing to consider the third dimension]].
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* In space battles ([[AcrophobicBird or using aircraft]]), [[{{Two-DSpace}} [[TwoDSpace failing to consider the third dimension]].
