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21st Jun '17 2:21:13 PM mkmlp
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** Despite a little bit of AdaptionalVillainy, Twilight makes it clear that deep down, she still wants to do the right thing and help everypony, even if her methods can be... questionable.

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** Despite a little bit of AdaptionalVillainy, AdaptationalVillainy, Twilight makes it clear that deep down, she still wants to do the right thing and help everypony, even if her methods can be... questionable.
21st Jun '17 2:20:27 PM mkmlp
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* DWK, the narrator and creator of ''WebVideo/MyLittlePonyTotallyLegitRecap'', likes to play himself off as just drunken JerkAss loser, making fun of a little girls show, but deep under DWK/the narrator's cynical, snarky, perverted, crude, and alcoholic personality lies a surprisingly insightful fan who has a great appreciation for the show, its morals, and characters, even if he loves to poke fun at them.

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* DWK, the narrator and creator of ''WebVideo/MyLittlePonyTotallyLegitRecap'', likes to play himself off as just drunken JerkAss loser, making fun of a little girls show, but deep under DWK/the narrator's his cynical, snarky, perverted, crude, and alcoholic personality lies a surprisingly insightful fan who has a great appreciation for the show, its morals, and characters, even if he loves to poke fun at them.them. The narrator is also shown to have some deeply-rooted personal issues and cynicism, as noted in his recap of "Flutter Brutter," where Zephyr Breeze's personality and character flaws really hit close to home for the narrator.
** Despite a little bit of AdaptionalVillainy, Twilight makes it clear that deep down, she still wants to do the right thing and help everypony, even if her methods can be... questionable.
** Scootaloo is implied to be one of the more insightful characters and is definitely wiser than her big sister figure Rainbow Dash.
** Starlight apparently has a successful hip hop career on the side.
19th Jun '17 3:31:11 AM Spindriver
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* Generally, in ''Webcomic/MenageA3'' and its spin-off ''Webcomic/StickyDillyBuns'' what you see is what you get from the characters -- but secondary character Jung seems to exist to prove otherwise. He's generally taken for a plump, snarky, food-loving {{geek}}, because that's what he is. When he turned out to be a talented costume designer and maker, that just looked like a minor eccentricity, while his flashes of helpful sensitivity were rare. But then it turned out that he had not only recently gained a girlfriend, he had taught himself to be an excellent, thoughtful lover.

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* Generally, in ''Webcomic/MenageA3'' and its spin-off ''Webcomic/StickyDillyBuns'' ''Webcomic/StickyDillyBuns'', what you see is what you get from the characters -- but secondary character Jung seems to exist to prove otherwise. He's generally taken for a plump, snarky, food-loving {{geek}}, because that's what he is. When he turned out to be a talented costume designer and maker, that just looked like a minor eccentricity, while his flashes of helpful sensitivity were rare. rare, if real. But then it turned out that he had not only recently gained a girlfriend, he had taught himself ''taught himself'' to be an excellent, thoughtful lover.lover, from scratch, by the time it was needed.
19th Jun '17 3:25:21 AM Spindriver
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* Raven from ''Webcomic/QuestionableContent'', who seems to be an all-around boy-chasing ditz, turns out to have quite the eye for interior design. It is also revealed that her ''parents'' are both quite intelligent- her father is an astrophysicist, and her mother is a nuclear physicist. Eventually we find out she's going to college to study physics.

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* Raven from ''Webcomic/QuestionableContent'', ''Webcomic/QuestionableContent'' seems to like this trope:
** Raven,
who seems to be an all-around boy-chasing ditz, turns out to have quite the eye for interior design. It is also revealed that her ''parents'' are both quite intelligent- intelligent -- her father is an astrophysicist, and her mother is a nuclear physicist. Eventually we find out she's going to college to study physics.


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* Generally, in ''Webcomic/MenageA3'' and its spin-off ''Webcomic/StickyDillyBuns'' what you see is what you get from the characters -- but secondary character Jung seems to exist to prove otherwise. He's generally taken for a plump, snarky, food-loving {{geek}}, because that's what he is. When he turned out to be a talented costume designer and maker, that just looked like a minor eccentricity, while his flashes of helpful sensitivity were rare. But then it turned out that he had not only recently gained a girlfriend, he had taught himself to be an excellent, thoughtful lover.
4th Jun '17 11:35:32 AM lillolillo
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* ''ComicBook/XMen'': Toad, of all people, has some depth to him. While being Magneto's ButtMonkey for years, he's become quite a skilled mechanic; and while not innovative, can reproduce pretty complicated devices. He also grew a spine, ''led'' his own version of the Brotherhood, and was one of the [[TheChessmaster chessmasters]] behind the resurrection of the reality-warping Proteus.

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* ''ComicBook/XMen'': Franchise/XMen: Toad, of all people, has some depth to him. While being Magneto's ButtMonkey for years, he's become quite a skilled mechanic; and while not innovative, can reproduce pretty complicated devices. He also grew a spine, ''led'' his own version of the Brotherhood, and was one of the [[TheChessmaster chessmasters]] behind the resurrection of the reality-warping Proteus.



** Wolverine comes across as an uncouth, uneducated redneck until the team gets teleported to Japan. He picks up part of a newspaper and casually tells the others what it says. Over time, he is shown to be fluent in Russian, Chinese, Cheyenne, Spanish, Arabic, and Lakota, and has some knowledge of various other languages. He's also a highly trained martial artist and samurai.

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** Wolverine Comicbook/{{Wolverine}} comes across as an uncouth, uneducated redneck until the team gets teleported to Japan. He picks up part of a newspaper and casually tells the others what it says. Over time, he is shown to be fluent in Russian, Chinese, Cheyenne, Spanish, Arabic, and Lakota, and has some knowledge of various other languages. He's also a highly trained martial artist and samurai.



* Deadpool has gone through a lot of this. In the beginning, he was a violently amoral mercenary who would pretty much do anything for money, including switching sides ''in the middle of a fight'' if someone on the other side offered him more money. Gradually he's grown into a full AntiHero, has a pretty tragic backstory of a childhood that was far from easy, and has serious issues with how ugly he is and how his constantly healing brain has seriously screwed up his perceptions. He now has a fairly rigid code of honor, tries to do the right thing, keeps his promises, and has established that there are lines he will not cross.

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* Deadpool A lot of people in-universe thinks Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'s a brainless, gullible FlyingBrick that hits first and asks questions later. Though she's a member of the Kryptonian Science Guild and [[http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pScx8BN4h3s/SV4bh5nY4gI/AAAAAAAACMM/HR8nvdV_Coc/s1600-h/fc3+-+pan+4.jpg has plenty of hobbies]]: playing guitar, drawing, costume-designing... She also owns a pet cat she's very fond of.
* Comicbook/{{Deadpool}}
has gone through a lot of this. In the beginning, he was a violently amoral mercenary who would pretty much do anything for money, including switching sides ''in the middle of a fight'' if someone on the other side offered him more money. Gradually he's grown into a full AntiHero, has a pretty tragic backstory of a childhood that was far from easy, and has serious issues with how ugly he is and how his constantly healing brain has seriously screwed up his perceptions. He now has a fairly rigid code of honor, tries to do the right thing, keeps his promises, and has established that there are lines he will not cross.



* GeoffJohns specializes in revamping B-level villains by adding backstory and character depth to them.

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* GeoffJohns Creator/GeoffJohns specializes in revamping B-level villains by adding backstory and character depth to them.



** To be fair, some reports of the Madison Square Garden concert claimed that the boos were for a police action elsewhere in the arena. [[RuleOfCool Ricky's version makes for a better song]].
16th May '17 6:09:15 PM mkmlp
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* DWK, the narrator and creator of ''WebVideo/MyLittlePonyTotallyLegitRecap'', likes to play himself off as just drunken JerkAss loser, making fun of a little girls show, but deep under DWK/the narrator's cynical, snarky, perverted, crude, and alcoholic personality lies a surprisingly insightful fan who has a great appreciation for the show, its morals, and characters, even if he loves to poke fun at them.
24th Apr '17 7:05:20 PM KingClark
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* Music/WesleyWillis was known for writing a number of songs with vulgar titles and lyrics, such as "Suck My Dog's Dick" and "Lick A Donkey's Ass". The reason he did that wasn't because he thought it was funny in a sophomoric way, but because he was schizophrenic, and he wrote and performed the songs as a way to make the voices in his head to go away.

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* Music/WesleyWillis was known for writing a number of songs with vulgar titles and lyrics, such as "Suck My Dog's Dick" and "Lick A Donkey's Ass". The reason he did that wasn't because he thought it was funny in a sophomoric way, but because he was schizophrenic, and he wrote and performed the songs as a way to make [[HearingVoices the voices in his head to go away.away]].
1st Apr '17 7:28:42 PM DrFraud
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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9884704/14/Riddle-And-The-Ancient-Contract Riddle and the Ancient Contract]]'' everyone treated Crabbe and Goyle as dumb muscle due to their appearance, causing them to hide their intelligence and dreams for the future - for Goyle, something involving caring for animals, while Crabbe wanted to be a librarian.

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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9884704/14/Riddle-And-The-Ancient-Contract Riddle and the Ancient Contract]]'' everyone treated treats Crabbe and Goyle as dumb muscle due to their appearance, muscle, causing them to hide their intelligence and dreams for the future - for Goyle, something involving caring for animals, while Crabbe wanted wants to be a librarian.
9th Mar '17 8:51:57 AM Taskmaster123
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* Many characters on many television shows go through this, due to being in an extremely long-running series and/or an actor not really hitting their stride with a character until they've been in the role for a few years.
* RonSwanson from ParksAndRecreation is an excellent example. Both the writers and NickOfferman really started to reach the full potential of the character in the second half of the second season. Before that, he wore suits to work, his backstory wasn't really explored, he didn't really display any concern for his coworkers (unlike the HeterosexualLifePartner relationship he developed with Leslie or the FatherFigure he became for Andy and April) and the DeadpanSnarker wasn't around that much.
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9th Mar '17 8:49:49 AM Taskmaster123
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[[folder:Live-Action TV]]
* Many characters on many television shows go through this, due to being in an extremely long-running series and/or an actor not really hitting their stride with a character until they've been in the role for a few years.
* RonSwanson from ParksAndRecreation is an excellent example. Both the writers and NickOfferman really started to reach the full potential of the character in the second half of the second season. Before that, he wore suits to work, his backstory wasn't really explored, he didn't really display any concern for his coworkers (unlike the HeterosexualLifePartner relationship he developed with Leslie or the FatherFigure he became for Andy and April) and the DeadpanSnarker wasn't around that much.
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