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On the other hand, these characters need to be treated carefully. Since the Hero Protagonist is the central character, the issues common in TheHero become very noticeable very quickly. Since [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin it's inevitable that the character will win]] ([[TheBadGuyWins usually]]), a lot of the drama in the story is removed. Good writing will therefore focus on ''how'' they win, or offer up an interesting character dilemma. Bad writing can turn the Hero Protagonist into an InvincibleHero. Several works avoid the problem altogether by averting the Hero Protagonist by having the two traits in different characters, or dropping one or both from the narrative completely. If TheHero is made into a supporting role, this allows them to be awesome and heroic without dragging down the narrative.

A Hero Protagonist is most often found in works with BlackAndWhiteMorality, where they will be opposed to the VillainAntagonist. This trope is easily one of TheOldestOnesInTheBook, to the point where most of its aversions are likewise TheOldestOnesInTheBook. For when TheHero is not TheProtagonist, see SupportingLeader, HeroOfAnotherStory and HeroAntagonist. For when TheProtagonist is not TheHero, see AntiHero, VillainProtagonist and SupportingProtagonist. Not to be confused with [[Literature/SnowCrash Hiroaki "Hiro" Protagonist]].

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On the other hand, these characters need to be treated carefully. Since the Hero Protagonist is the central character, the issues common in TheHero become very noticeable very quickly. Since [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin it's inevitable that the character will win]] ([[TheBadGuyWins usually]]), a lot of the drama in the story is removed. Good writing will therefore focus on ''how'' they win, or offer up an interesting character dilemma. Bad writing can turn the Hero Protagonist into an InvincibleHero. Several works avoid the problem altogether by averting the Hero Protagonist by having the two traits in different characters, characters or dropping one or both from the narrative completely. If TheHero is made into a supporting role, this allows them to be awesome and heroic without dragging down the narrative.

A Hero Protagonist is most often found in works with BlackAndWhiteMorality, where they will be opposed to the VillainAntagonist. But this character can be found in other stories with a different morality. This trope is easily one of TheOldestOnesInTheBook, to the point where most of its aversions are likewise TheOldestOnesInTheBook. For when TheHero is not TheProtagonist, see SupportingLeader, HeroOfAnotherStory and HeroAntagonist. For when TheProtagonist is not TheHero, see AntiHero, VillainProtagonist and SupportingProtagonist. Not to be confused with [[Literature/SnowCrash Hiroaki "Hiro" Protagonist]].
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A Hero Protagonist is when TheHero and TheProtagonist are the same person. This combination of roles is extremely common, to the point where it's considered true unless otherwise noted within any work, and the terms are often (falsely) assumed to be synonymous and used interchangeably. Simply put, the central character is also an established force for good within the universe. The Hero Protagonist is also a source of {{Escapism}}; the audience sympathizes with the character because he's who they want to be, rather than [[AudienceSurrogate who they actually are.]] It's common to see {{Hero Protagonist}}s tackle villains who either cause or are personifications of real-life issues, in order to fulfill the desire of the audience to see these problems dealt with.

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A Hero Protagonist is when TheHero and TheProtagonist are the same person. This combination of roles is extremely common, to the point where it's considered true unless otherwise noted within any work, and the terms are often (falsely) assumed to be synonymous and used interchangeably. Simply put, the central character is also an established force for good within the universe. The Hero Protagonist is also a source of {{Escapism}}; the audience sympathizes with the character because he's who they want to be, rather than [[AudienceSurrogate who they actually are.]] It's common to see {{Hero Protagonist}}s these tackle villains who either cause or are personifications of real-life issues, in order to fulfill the desire of the audience to see these problems dealt with.
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A Hero Protagonist is when TheHero and TheProtagonist [[CaptainObvious are the same person.]] This combination of roles is extremely common, to the point where it's considered true unless otherwise noted within any work, and the terms are often (falsely) assumed to be synonymous and used interchangeably. Simply put, the central character is also an established force for good within the universe. The Hero Protagonist is also a source of {{Escapism}}; the audience sympathizes with the character because he's who they want to be, rather than [[AudienceSurrogate who they actually are.]] It's common to see {{Hero Protagonist}}s tackle villains who either cause or are personifications of real-life issues, in order to fulfill the desire of the audience to see these problems dealt with.

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A Hero Protagonist is when TheHero and TheProtagonist [[CaptainObvious are the same person.]] person. This combination of roles is extremely common, to the point where it's considered true unless otherwise noted within any work, and the terms are often (falsely) assumed to be synonymous and used interchangeably. Simply put, the central character is also an established force for good within the universe. The Hero Protagonist is also a source of {{Escapism}}; the audience sympathizes with the character because he's who they want to be, rather than [[AudienceSurrogate who they actually are.]] It's common to see {{Hero Protagonist}}s tackle villains who either cause or are personifications of real-life issues, in order to fulfill the desire of the audience to see these problems dealt with.
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A Hero Protagonist is when TheHero and TheProtagonist [[CaptainObvious are the same person.]] This combination of roles is extremely common, to the point where it's considered true unless otherwise noted within any work. Simply put, the central character is also an established force for good within the universe. The Hero Protagonist is also a source of {{Escapism}}; the audience sympathizes with the character because he's who they want to be, rather than [[AudienceSurrogate who they actually are.]] It's common to see {{Hero Protagonist}}s tackle villains who either cause or are personifications of real-life issues, in order to fulfill the desire of the audience to see these problems dealt with.

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A Hero Protagonist is when TheHero and TheProtagonist [[CaptainObvious are the same person.]] This combination of roles is extremely common, to the point where it's considered true unless otherwise noted within any work.work, and the terms are often (falsely) assumed to be synonymous and used interchangeably. Simply put, the central character is also an established force for good within the universe. The Hero Protagonist is also a source of {{Escapism}}; the audience sympathizes with the character because he's who they want to be, rather than [[AudienceSurrogate who they actually are.]] It's common to see {{Hero Protagonist}}s tackle villains who either cause or are personifications of real-life issues, in order to fulfill the desire of the audience to see these problems dealt with.
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On the other hand, these characters need to be treated carefully. Since the Hero Protagonist is the central character, the issues common in TheHero become very noticeable very quickly. Since [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin it's inevitable that the character will win]], a lot of the drama in the story is removed. Good writing will therefore focus on ''how'' they win, or offer up an interesting character dilemma. Bad writing can turn the Hero Protagonist into an InvincibleHero. Several works avoid the problem altogether by averting the Hero Protagonist by having the two traits in different characters, or dropping one or both from the narrative completely. If TheHero is made into a supporting role, this allows them to be awesome and heroic without dragging down the narrative.

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On the other hand, these characters need to be treated carefully. Since the Hero Protagonist is the central character, the issues common in TheHero become very noticeable very quickly. Since [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin it's inevitable that the character will win]], win]] ([[TheBadGuyWins usually]]), a lot of the drama in the story is removed. Good writing will therefore focus on ''how'' they win, or offer up an interesting character dilemma. Bad writing can turn the Hero Protagonist into an InvincibleHero. Several works avoid the problem altogether by averting the Hero Protagonist by having the two traits in different characters, or dropping one or both from the narrative completely. If TheHero is made into a supporting role, this allows them to be awesome and heroic without dragging down the narrative.
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A Hero Protagonist is most often found in works with BlackAndWhiteMorality, where they will be opposed to the VillainAntagonist. This trope is easily one of TheOldestOnesInTheBook, to the point where most of its aversions are likewise TheOldestOnesInTheBook. For when TheHero is not TheProtagonist, see SupportingLeader and HeroAntagonist. For when TheProtagonist is not TheHero, see AntiHero, VillainProtagonist and SupportingProtagonist. Not to be confused with [[Literature/SnowCrash Hiroaki "Hiro" Protagonist]].

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A Hero Protagonist is most often found in works with BlackAndWhiteMorality, where they will be opposed to the VillainAntagonist. This trope is easily one of TheOldestOnesInTheBook, to the point where most of its aversions are likewise TheOldestOnesInTheBook. For when TheHero is not TheProtagonist, see SupportingLeader SupportingLeader, HeroOfAnotherStory and HeroAntagonist. For when TheProtagonist is not TheHero, see AntiHero, VillainProtagonist and SupportingProtagonist. Not to be confused with [[Literature/SnowCrash Hiroaki "Hiro" Protagonist]].
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A Hero Protagonist is most often found in works with BlackAndWhiteMorality, where they will be opposed to the VillainAntagonist. This is an OmnipresentTrope and easily one of TheOldestOnesInTheBook, to the point where most of its aversions are likewise TheOldestOnesInTheBook. For when TheHero is not TheProtagonist, see SupportingLeader and HeroAntagonist. For when TheProtagonist is not TheHero, see AntiHero, VillainProtagonist and SupportingProtagonist. Not to be confused with [[Literature/SnowCrash Hiroaki "Hiro" Protagonist]].

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A Hero Protagonist is most often found in works with BlackAndWhiteMorality, where they will be opposed to the VillainAntagonist. This trope is an OmnipresentTrope and easily one of TheOldestOnesInTheBook, to the point where most of its aversions are likewise TheOldestOnesInTheBook. For when TheHero is not TheProtagonist, see SupportingLeader and HeroAntagonist. For when TheProtagonist is not TheHero, see AntiHero, VillainProtagonist and SupportingProtagonist. Not to be confused with [[Literature/SnowCrash Hiroaki "Hiro" Protagonist]].
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I contend that this statement is wrong. There are plenty of myths and heroic legends which cannot be broken down to a "good vs. evil" conflict. (Also made a post on the discussion page.)


A Hero Protagonist is when TheHero and TheProtagonist [[CaptainObvious are the same person.]] This combination of roles is extremely common, to the point where it's considered true unless otherwise noted within any work. Simply put, the central character is also an established force for good within the universe. This role is used most often in classical myths and heroic legends, since these tales are usually a story of conflict between the forces of good and evil. The Hero Protagonist is also a source of {{Escapism}}; the audience sympathizes with the character because he's who they want to be, rather than [[AudienceSurrogate who they actually are.]] It's common to see {{Hero Protagonist}}s tackle villains who either cause or are personifications of real-life issues, in order to fulfill the desire of the audience to see these problems dealt with.

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A Hero Protagonist is when TheHero and TheProtagonist [[CaptainObvious are the same person.]] This combination of roles is extremely common, to the point where it's considered true unless otherwise noted within any work. Simply put, the central character is also an established force for good within the universe. This role is used most often in classical myths and heroic legends, since these tales are usually a story of conflict between the forces of good and evil. The Hero Protagonist is also a source of {{Escapism}}; the audience sympathizes with the character because he's who they want to be, rather than [[AudienceSurrogate who they actually are.]] It's common to see {{Hero Protagonist}}s tackle villains who either cause or are personifications of real-life issues, in order to fulfill the desire of the audience to see these problems dealt with.
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Less heroic is more interesting? Really?!


On the other hand, these characters need to be treated carefully. Since the Hero Protagonist is the central character, the issues common in TheHero become very noticeable very quickly. Since [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin it's inevitable that the character will win]], a lot of the drama in the story is removed. Good writing will therefore focus on ''how'' they win, or offer up an interesting character dilemma. Bad writing can turn the Hero Protagonist into an InvincibleHero. Several works avoid the problem altogether by averting the Hero Protagonist, making TheProtagonist less heroic and therefore more interesting, as well as shunting off TheHero, if such a character exists, into a supporting role, which allows them to be awesome and heroic without dragging down the narrative.

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On the other hand, these characters need to be treated carefully. Since the Hero Protagonist is the central character, the issues common in TheHero become very noticeable very quickly. Since [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin it's inevitable that the character will win]], a lot of the drama in the story is removed. Good writing will therefore focus on ''how'' they win, or offer up an interesting character dilemma. Bad writing can turn the Hero Protagonist into an InvincibleHero. Several works avoid the problem altogether by averting the Hero Protagonist, making TheProtagonist less heroic and therefore more interesting, as well as shunting off TheHero, if such a character exists, Protagonist by having the two traits in different characters, or dropping one or both from the narrative completely. If TheHero is made into a supporting role, which this allows them to be awesome and heroic without dragging down the narrative.
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''As this is an OmnipresentTrope, '''no examples please.'''''

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''As this is an ([[VillainProtagonist almost]]) OmnipresentTrope, '''no examples please.'''''
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A HeroProtagonist is when TheHero and TheProtagonist [[CaptainObvious are the same person.]] This combination of roles is extremely common, to the point where it's considered true unless otherwise noted within any work. Simply put, the central character is also an established force for good within the universe. This role is used most often in classical myths and heroic legends, since these tales are usually a story of conflict between the forces of good and evil. The HeroProtagonist is also a source of {{Escapism}}; the audience sympathizes with the character because he's who they want to be, rather than [[AudienceSurrogate who they actually are.]] It's common to see {{Hero Protagonist}}s tackle villains who either cause or are personifications of real-life issues, in order to fulfill the desire of the audience to see these problems dealt with.

On the other hand, these characters need to be treated carefully. Since the HeroProtagonist is the central character, the issues common in TheHero become very noticeable very quickly. Since [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin it's inevitable that the character will win]], a lot of the drama in the story is removed. Good writing will therefore focus on ''how'' they win, or offer up an interesting character dilemma. Bad writing can turn the HeroProtagonist into an InvincibleHero. Several works avoid the problem altogether by averting the HeroProtagonist, making TheProtagonist less heroic and therefore more interesting, as well as shunting off TheHero, if such a character exists, into a supporting role, which allows them to be awesome and heroic without dragging down the narrative.

A HeroProtagonist is most often found in works with BlackAndWhiteMorality, where they will be opposed to the VillainAntagonist. This is an OmnipresentTrope and easily one of TheOldestOnesInTheBook, to the point where most of its aversions are likewise TheOldestOnesInTheBook. For when TheHero is not TheProtagonist, see SupportingLeader and HeroAntagonist. For when TheProtagonist is not TheHero, see AntiHero, VillainProtagonist and SupportingProtagonist. Not to be confused with [[Literature/SnowCrash Hiroaki "Hiro" Protagonist]].

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A HeroProtagonist Hero Protagonist is when TheHero and TheProtagonist [[CaptainObvious are the same person.]] This combination of roles is extremely common, to the point where it's considered true unless otherwise noted within any work. Simply put, the central character is also an established force for good within the universe. This role is used most often in classical myths and heroic legends, since these tales are usually a story of conflict between the forces of good and evil. The HeroProtagonist Hero Protagonist is also a source of {{Escapism}}; the audience sympathizes with the character because he's who they want to be, rather than [[AudienceSurrogate who they actually are.]] It's common to see {{Hero Protagonist}}s tackle villains who either cause or are personifications of real-life issues, in order to fulfill the desire of the audience to see these problems dealt with.

On the other hand, these characters need to be treated carefully. Since the HeroProtagonist Hero Protagonist is the central character, the issues common in TheHero become very noticeable very quickly. Since [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin it's inevitable that the character will win]], a lot of the drama in the story is removed. Good writing will therefore focus on ''how'' they win, or offer up an interesting character dilemma. Bad writing can turn the HeroProtagonist Hero Protagonist into an InvincibleHero. Several works avoid the problem altogether by averting the HeroProtagonist, Hero Protagonist, making TheProtagonist less heroic and therefore more interesting, as well as shunting off TheHero, if such a character exists, into a supporting role, which allows them to be awesome and heroic without dragging down the narrative.

A HeroProtagonist Hero Protagonist is most often found in works with BlackAndWhiteMorality, where they will be opposed to the VillainAntagonist. This is an OmnipresentTrope and easily one of TheOldestOnesInTheBook, to the point where most of its aversions are likewise TheOldestOnesInTheBook. For when TheHero is not TheProtagonist, see SupportingLeader and HeroAntagonist. For when TheProtagonist is not TheHero, see AntiHero, VillainProtagonist and SupportingProtagonist. Not to be confused with [[Literature/SnowCrash Hiroaki "Hiro" Protagonist]].
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A HeroProtagonist is when TheHero and TheProtagonist [[CaptainObvious are the same person.]] This combination of roles is extremely common, to the point where it's considered true unless otherwise noted within any work. Simply put, the central character is also an established force for good within the universe. This role is used most often in classical myths and heroic legends, since these tales are usually a story of conflict between the forces of good and evil. The HeroProtagonist is also a source of {{Escapism}}; the audience sympathizes with the character because he's who they want to be, rather than [[AudienceSurrogate who they actually are.]] It's common to see {{Hero Protagonist}}s tackle villains who ether cause or are personifications of real-life issues, in order to fulfill the desire of the audience to see these problems dealt with.

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A HeroProtagonist is when TheHero and TheProtagonist [[CaptainObvious are the same person.]] This combination of roles is extremely common, to the point where it's considered true unless otherwise noted within any work. Simply put, the central character is also an established force for good within the universe. This role is used most often in classical myths and heroic legends, since these tales are usually a story of conflict between the forces of good and evil. The HeroProtagonist is also a source of {{Escapism}}; the audience sympathizes with the character because he's who they want to be, rather than [[AudienceSurrogate who they actually are.]] It's common to see {{Hero Protagonist}}s tackle villains who ether either cause or are personifications of real-life issues, in order to fulfill the desire of the audience to see these problems dealt with.
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->''“But down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid. The detective in this kind of story must be such a man. He is the hero, he is everything. He must be a complete man and a common man and yet an unusual man. He must be, to use a rather weathered phrase, a man of honor, by instinct, by inevitability, without thought of it, and certainly without saying it. He must be the best man in his world and a good enough man for any world.''

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->''“But down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid. The detective in this kind of story must be such a man. He is the hero, he is everything. He must be a complete man and a common man and yet an unusual man. He must be, to use a rather weathered phrase, a man of honor, by instinct, by inevitability, without thought of it, and certainly without saying it. He must be the best man in his world and a good enough man for any world.''"''
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A HeroProtagonist is most often found in works with BlackAndWhiteMorality. This is an OmnipresentTrope and easily one of TheOldestOnesInTheBook, to the point where most of its aversions are likewise TheOldestOnesInTheBook. For when TheHero is not TheProtagonist, see SupportingLeader and HeroAntagonist. For when TheProtagonist is not TheHero, see AntiHero, VillainProtagonist and SupportingProtagonist. Not to be confused with [[Literature/SnowCrash Hiroaki "Hiro" Protagonist]].

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A HeroProtagonist is most often found in works with BlackAndWhiteMorality.BlackAndWhiteMorality, where they will be opposed to the VillainAntagonist. This is an OmnipresentTrope and easily one of TheOldestOnesInTheBook, to the point where most of its aversions are likewise TheOldestOnesInTheBook. For when TheHero is not TheProtagonist, see SupportingLeader and HeroAntagonist. For when TheProtagonist is not TheHero, see AntiHero, VillainProtagonist and SupportingProtagonist. Not to be confused with [[Literature/SnowCrash Hiroaki "Hiro" Protagonist]].
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->''“But down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid. The detective in this kind of story must be such a man. He is the hero, he is everything. He must be a complete man and a common man and yet an unusual man. He must be, to use a rather weathered phrase, a man of honor, by instinct, by inevitability, without thought of it, and certainly without saying it. He must be the best man in his world and a good enough man for any world.''
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A HeroProtagonist is most often found in works with BlackAndWhiteMorality. This is an OmnipresentTrope and easily one of TheOldestOnesInTheBook, to the point where most of its aversions are likewise TheOldestOnesInTheBook. For when TheHero is not TheProtagonist, see SupportingLeader and HeroAntagonist. For when TheProtagonist is not TheHero, see AntiHero, VillainProtagonist and SupportingProtagonist. Not to be confused with [[SnowCrash Hiroaki "Hiro" Protagonist]].

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A HeroProtagonist is most often found in works with BlackAndWhiteMorality. This is an OmnipresentTrope and easily one of TheOldestOnesInTheBook, to the point where most of its aversions are likewise TheOldestOnesInTheBook. For when TheHero is not TheProtagonist, see SupportingLeader and HeroAntagonist. For when TheProtagonist is not TheHero, see AntiHero, VillainProtagonist and SupportingProtagonist. Not to be confused with [[SnowCrash [[Literature/SnowCrash Hiroaki "Hiro" Protagonist]].
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Older Than Dirt only for specific examples recorded before 800 BC. This page has no examples and currently, none for this trope are indexed on Older Than Dirt. Also, considering the behavior of Older Than Dirt protagonists such as Gilgamesh, it\'s not certain this trope is that old.


A HeroProtagonist is most often found in works with BlackAndWhiteMorality. This is an OmnipresentTrope and easily OlderThanDirt, to the point where most of its aversions are likewise OlderThanDirt. For when TheHero is not TheProtagonist, see SupportingLeader and HeroAntagonist. For when TheProtagonist is not TheHero, see AntiHero, VillainProtagonist and SupportingProtagonist. Not to be confused with [[SnowCrash Hiroaki "Hiro" Protagonist]].

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A HeroProtagonist is most often found in works with BlackAndWhiteMorality. This is an OmnipresentTrope and easily OlderThanDirt, one of TheOldestOnesInTheBook, to the point where most of its aversions are likewise OlderThanDirt.TheOldestOnesInTheBook. For when TheHero is not TheProtagonist, see SupportingLeader and HeroAntagonist. For when TheProtagonist is not TheHero, see AntiHero, VillainProtagonist and SupportingProtagonist. Not to be confused with [[SnowCrash Hiroaki "Hiro" Protagonist]].
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A HeroProtagonist is most often found in works with BlackAndWhiteMorality. This is an OmnipresentTrope and easily OlderThanDirt, to the point where most of its aversions are likewise OlderThanDirt. For when TheHero is not TheProtagonist, see TheAragorn and HeroAntagonist. For when TheProtagonist is not TheHero, see AntiHero, VillainProtagonist and SupportingProtagonist. Not to be confused with [[SnowCrash Hiroaki "Hiro" Protagonist]].

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A HeroProtagonist is most often found in works with BlackAndWhiteMorality. This is an OmnipresentTrope and easily OlderThanDirt, to the point where most of its aversions are likewise OlderThanDirt. For when TheHero is not TheProtagonist, see TheAragorn SupportingLeader and HeroAntagonist. For when TheProtagonist is not TheHero, see AntiHero, VillainProtagonist and SupportingProtagonist. Not to be confused with [[SnowCrash Hiroaki "Hiro" Protagonist]].
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On the other hand, these characters need to be treated carefully. Since the HeroProtagonist is the central character, the issues common in TheHero become very noticeable very quickly. Since [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin it's inevitable that the character will win]], a lot of the drama in the story is removed. Good writing will therefore focus on ''how'' they win, or offer up an interesting character dilemma. Bad writing can turn the HeroProtagonist into a BoringInvincibleHero. Several works avoid the problem altogether by averting the HeroProtagonist, making TheProtagonist less heroic and therefore more interesting, as well as shunting off TheHero, if such a character exists, into a supporting role, which allows them to be awesome and heroic without dragging down the narrative.

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On the other hand, these characters need to be treated carefully. Since the HeroProtagonist is the central character, the issues common in TheHero become very noticeable very quickly. Since [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin it's inevitable that the character will win]], a lot of the drama in the story is removed. Good writing will therefore focus on ''how'' they win, or offer up an interesting character dilemma. Bad writing can turn the HeroProtagonist into a BoringInvincibleHero.an InvincibleHero. Several works avoid the problem altogether by averting the HeroProtagonist, making TheProtagonist less heroic and therefore more interesting, as well as shunting off TheHero, if such a character exists, into a supporting role, which allows them to be awesome and heroic without dragging down the narrative.

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