History Main / HegemonicEmpire

21st Sep '17 3:19:09 PM Kadorhal
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** The United States is often seen as the successor of the English in this regard and differs from the British Empire for the fact that it has so far avoided direct colonization, favoring control over the markets instead. UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire initiially sought to be a hegemonic empire at the outset but gradually became a military empire upon seeing the competition from other would-be colonial powers (France, Spain, Dutch, Russia, Germany) and the political instability that happened to coincide upon their arrival in a new land. When trouble arose, Britain relied on its vast and powerful Navy, which was essentially unchallenged from the Battle of Trafalgar to the Battle of Jutland and unsurpassed until WWII (when it was surpassed...by their allies, the Americans), small, highly trained, efficient and highly mobile armies and its economic influence. The spread of English as the language of power and money (something which can partially be attributed to the US), the retention of Greenwich Mean Time and the resultant system of time zones and the widespread nature of British culture is a testament to this.
** The United States was founded with this in mind. After the Revolutionary War, the individual colonies were seen as individual nations that banded together to become an alliance of nations with one entity (The United States Government) being the regulator of all international and inter-state issues. The thought of the United States as a national identity did not gain mainstream support until the fall out of the Civil War (General Robert E. Lee would have fought for the Union if Lincoln had asked him a day earlier... Virginia seceded from the Union the day Lincoln asked and Lee sided with his country, which he believed was Virginia). Vestiges of this mentality still exist to this day with the concept of State's Rights (the 10th Amendment to the Constitution explicitly says that if the Constitution does not explicitly reserve a power for itself, than that power is ceded to the State). It's quite common for states to have unique personalities, attitudes, priorities, and interests that are not shared by their neighbors.

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** The United States is often seen as the successor of the English in this regard and differs from the British Empire for the fact that it has so far avoided direct colonization, favoring control over the markets instead. UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire initiially sought to be a hegemonic empire at the outset but gradually became a military empire upon seeing the competition from other would-be colonial powers (France, Spain, Dutch, Russia, Germany) and the political instability that happened to coincide upon their arrival in a new land. When trouble arose, Britain relied on its vast and powerful Navy, which was essentially unchallenged from the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805 to the Battle of Jutland just over a century later, and unsurpassed until WWII (when it was surpassed...surpassed... by their allies, the Americans), small, highly trained, efficient and highly mobile armies and its economic influence. The spread of English as the language of power and money (something which can partially be attributed to the US), the retention of Greenwich Mean Time and the resultant system of time zones and the widespread nature of British culture is a testament to this.
** The United States was founded with this in mind. After the Revolutionary War, the individual colonies were seen as individual nations that banded together to become an alliance of nations with one entity (The United States Government) being the regulator of all international and inter-state issues. The thought of the United States as a national identity did not gain mainstream support until the fall out fallout of [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar the Civil War War]] (General Robert E. Lee would have fought was asked to fight for the Union if Lincoln had asked him a by UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln the very day earlier... Virginia seceded from the Union the day Lincoln asked seceded, and Lee sided with his country, which he believed was Virginia).Virginia; he would have fought for the Union if Lincoln had asked a day earlier). Vestiges of this mentality still exist to this day with the concept of State's Rights (the 10th Amendment to the Constitution explicitly says that if the Constitution does not explicitly reserve a power for itself, than that power is ceded to the State). It's quite common for states to have unique personalities, attitudes, priorities, and interests that are not shared by their neighbors.



* Some have accused Germany of being this inside the European Union. Whether this is actually true depends a lot on whom you are talking to. The phrase about Germany being "too big for Europe and too small for the world" relates to the problem of Germany being (in theory) able to dominate most European countries economically and (at least in the past) militarily but unable to do really go toe to toe with major empires outside of Europe. Interestingly, some European leaders have actually called for Germany to act ''more'' like this, making them in essence [[VoluntaryVassal voluntary vassals.]]

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* Some have accused Germany of being this inside the European Union. Whether this is actually true depends a lot on whom you are talking to. The phrase about Germany being "too big for Europe and too small for the world" relates to the problem of Germany being (in theory) able to dominate most European countries economically and (at least in the past) militarily but unable to do really go toe to toe with major empires outside of Europe. Interestingly, some European leaders have actually called for Germany to act ''more'' like this, making them in essence [[VoluntaryVassal voluntary vassals.]]{{voluntary vassal}}s.
11th Aug '17 1:11:42 PM Grudgeal
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* The Sassanid Empire in ''VideoGame/TotalWarAttila'' functions this way. Its mechanics encourage the creation and maintenance of independent {{Puppet State}}s called satrapies instead of conquering and annexing territories directly. The more satrapies the Sassanids get, the more powerful your smaller core regions get, as your satraps come to your limited aid in war and provide bonuses in return for you not controlling them directly. This model is similar to the methods used by the real-life (Sassanid) Persian Empire at the time (see Real Life below).
11th Aug '17 1:02:17 PM Grudgeal
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* The Persian Empire of UsefulNotes/CyrusTheGreat could be considered the TropeMaker. Cyrus was quite tolerant towards other cultures. After invading Babylon he sent the Jews back home and gave orders that the Temple of Jerusalem be rebuilt, meaning he is portrayed very positively in Jewish scripture. However the attempted invasion of Greece seems to have given Persia a reputation of being TheEmpire, though that was done by Xerxes decades after him.

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* The Achaemenid/First Persian Empire of founded by UsefulNotes/CyrusTheGreat could be considered the TropeMaker. Cyrus The Empire was quite tolerant highly decentralised and ruled through viceroys called satraps who governed their administrative units, satrapies, in the name of the Persian emperor. Satraps enjoyed almost total freedom to rule their territories as they pleased and were allowed some degree of private armies, their only responsibility towards other cultures. After invading Babylon he sent the Jews back home crown was the levying of certain taxes and gave orders keeping internal peace and banditry down. Satraps would often belong to the native culture of their region, and have Persian advisers to keep a smooth connection between the local rule and the Emperor's court. The Persians also avoided imposing their own religion or culture on subjects, barring that the Temple as followers of Jerusalem be rebuilt, meaning he is portrayed very positively in Jewish scripture. However the attempted invasion of Greece seems to have given Persia a reputation of being TheEmpire, though that was done by Xerxes decades after him. UsefulNotes/{{Zoroastrianism}} [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil they banned slavery]].
7th Aug '17 1:22:33 PM Grudgeal
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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': Baron Wulfenbach's empire acts a lot like this. Being a part of the Wulfenbach empire means agreeing to the Baron's peace (summarized neatly as "don't make me come over there"), which means "no starting wars", "no going MadScientist on your subjects (in a way that will permanently harm them)", and "turn over all piece of [[BigBad Other]] technology you find", and beyond that any town, city or domain in the empire is ruled independently. Some level of taxation also seems to be involved, but on the other hand the Baron also builds public projects in return.

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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': Baron Wulfenbach's empire acts a lot like this. Being a part of the Wulfenbach empire means agreeing to the Baron's peace Pax Transylvania (summarized neatly as "don't make me come over there"), which means "no starting wars", "no going MadScientist on your subjects (in a way that will permanently harm them)", "no discrimination against [[ArtificialHuman constructs]]" and "turn over all piece of [[BigBad Other]] technology you find", and beyond that any town, city or domain in the empire is ruled independently. Some level of taxation also seems to be involved, but on the other hand the Baron also builds public projects in return.
4th Aug '17 9:33:28 AM Grudgeal
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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': Baron Wulfenbach's empire acts a lot like this. All "The Baron's Peace" requires is "don't make me come over there."

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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': Baron Wulfenbach's empire acts a lot like this. All "The Being a part of the Wulfenbach empire means agreeing to the Baron's Peace" requires is peace (summarized neatly as "don't make me come over there."there"), which means "no starting wars", "no going MadScientist on your subjects (in a way that will permanently harm them)", and "turn over all piece of [[BigBad Other]] technology you find", and beyond that any town, city or domain in the empire is ruled independently. Some level of taxation also seems to be involved, but on the other hand the Baron also builds public projects in return.
13th Jun '17 8:56:54 AM BeerBaron
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* Tamriel in ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' games one through four, while initially forged with the iron fists of Imperial Legions, is held together only through [[TheChessmaster massive schemes of the last Emperor]]. It finally falls apart prior to part five.

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* Tamriel in ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' games In ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'', the Third Cyrodiilic Empire (ruled by the Septim dynasty) is one through four, while of these. While initially forged with by the iron fists of the [[BadassArmy Imperial Legions, Legions]] (with an assist from the [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]]-crafted [[HumongousMecha Numidium]]) under the leadership of [[FounderOfTheKingdom Tiber Septim]], it quickly shifted to a (mostly) benevolent [[BigGood force of good]], espousing generally liberal values like religious and racial tolerance while establishing strong [[HumansAreDiplomats diplomatic]] and [[ProudMerchantRace mercantile]] ties between the provinces. Throughout the first four games in the main series, the Septim empire is in dire straights facing numerous threats (both internal and external, supernatural and mundane) and is only held together only through the [[TheChessmaster massive schemes of Emperor Uriel Septim VII]]. By the last Emperor]]. It finally falls apart prior to part five.time of ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', it has completely descended into a VestigialEmpire status, with the few remaining provinces in a very fragile state.
14th May '17 11:02:53 AM AnotherDuck
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* Some of the most effective Empires start as this according to some historical theories. And even while empires, they often have what might be called a "penumbra", a sort of sphere of influence in which their culture is either admired or just accepted because everyone else seems to.
* Related to this is a fairly popular idea in international relations, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegemonic_stability_theory hegemonic stability theory]], the gist of which is "hegemonic empires create institutions and stability that often outlive the hegemon, unlike direct empires."
30th Apr '17 3:57:29 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* This is how the current iteration of the Fjordell Empire in ''Literature/{{Elantris}}'' works. Centuries ago, Fjorden was a traditional empire, but it was unable to hold onto its military conquests and eventually fell apart. Fjorden's current rulers, being rather more GenreSavvy than their ancestors, are dedicated to expanding their power through cultural and religious dominance instead, and are successful enough that, despite being small when looked at on a map, their nation has gained effective control over more than half of the continent of Opelon. Having their emperor also be [[PriestKing the head]] of the [[ChurchMilitant Derethi church]] helps, since it means that people who convert to Shu-Dereth are technically answerable to the Fjordell government regardless of national affiliation.

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* This is how the current iteration of the Fjordell Empire in ''Literature/{{Elantris}}'' works. Centuries ago, Fjorden was a traditional empire, but it was unable to hold onto its military conquests and eventually fell apart. Fjorden's current rulers, being rather more GenreSavvy than their ancestors, are rulers dedicated to expanding their power through cultural and religious dominance instead, and are successful enough that, despite being small when looked at on a map, their nation has gained effective control over more than half of the continent of Opelon. Having their emperor also be [[PriestKing the head]] of the [[ChurchMilitant Derethi church]] helps, since it means that people who convert to Shu-Dereth are technically answerable to the Fjordell government regardless of national affiliation.
23rd Apr '17 10:13:45 AM nombretomado
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* In ''SwordOfTheStars 2'' the Morrigi see themselves as self-appointed protectors of the "younger races", as such their Confederation incorporates many more species than most of the other factions and players of any faction can annex minor races peacefully.

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* In ''SwordOfTheStars ''VideoGame/SwordOfTheStars 2'' the Morrigi see themselves as self-appointed protectors of the "younger races", as such their Confederation incorporates many more species than most of the other factions and players of any faction can annex minor races peacefully.
8th Mar '17 11:39:19 AM Jhonny
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** The United States was founded with this in mind. After the Revolutionary War, the individual colonies were seen as individual nations that banded together to become an alliance of nations with one entity (The United States Government) being the regulator of all international and inter-state issues. The thought of the United States as a national identity did not gain mainstream support until the fall out of the Civil War (General Robert E. Lee would have fought for the Union if Lincoln had asked him a day earlier... Virginia succeeded from the Union the day Lincoln asked and Lee sided with his country, which he believed was Virginia). Vestiges of this mentality still exist to this day with the concept of State's Rights (the 10th Amendment to the Constitution explicitly says that if the Constitution does not explicitly reserve a power for itself, than that power is ceded to the State). It's quite common for states to have unique personalities, attitudes, priorities, and interests that are not shared by their neighbors.

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** The United States was founded with this in mind. After the Revolutionary War, the individual colonies were seen as individual nations that banded together to become an alliance of nations with one entity (The United States Government) being the regulator of all international and inter-state issues. The thought of the United States as a national identity did not gain mainstream support until the fall out of the Civil War (General Robert E. Lee would have fought for the Union if Lincoln had asked him a day earlier... Virginia succeeded seceded from the Union the day Lincoln asked and Lee sided with his country, which he believed was Virginia). Vestiges of this mentality still exist to this day with the concept of State's Rights (the 10th Amendment to the Constitution explicitly says that if the Constitution does not explicitly reserve a power for itself, than that power is ceded to the State). It's quite common for states to have unique personalities, attitudes, priorities, and interests that are not shared by their neighbors.
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