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13th Dec '17 8:52:31 AM AHI-3000
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** The United States is often seen as the successor of the English in this regard and differs from the British Empire for the fact that it has so far avoided direct colonization, favoring control over the markets instead. UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire initiially sought to be a hegemonic empire at the outset but gradually became a military empire upon seeing the competition from other would-be colonial powers (France, Spain, Dutch, Russia, Germany) and the political instability that happened to coincide upon their arrival in a new land. When trouble arose, Britain relied on its vast and powerful Navy, which was essentially unchallenged from the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805 to the Battle of Jutland just over a century later, and unsurpassed until WWII (when it was surpassed... by their allies, the Americans), small, highly trained, efficient and highly mobile armies and its economic influence. The spread of English as the language of power and money (something which can partially be attributed to the US), the retention of Greenwich Mean Time and the resultant system of time zones and the widespread nature of British culture is a testament to this.

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** The United States is often seen as the successor of the English in this regard and differs from the British Empire for the fact that it has so far avoided direct colonization, favoring control over the markets instead. UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire initiially initially sought to be a hegemonic empire at the outset but gradually became a military empire upon seeing the competition from other would-be colonial powers (France, Spain, Dutch, Portugal, Netherlands, Russia, Germany) and the political instability that happened to coincide upon their arrival in a new land. When trouble arose, Britain relied on its vast and powerful Navy, which was essentially unchallenged from the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805 to the Battle of Jutland just over a century later, and unsurpassed until WWII (when it was surpassed... by their allies, the Americans), small, highly trained, efficient and highly mobile armies and its economic influence. The spread of English as the language of power and money (something which can partially be attributed to the US), the retention of Greenwich Mean Time and the resultant system of time zones and the widespread nature of British culture is a testament to this.
1st Dec '17 12:49:15 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* Third-world countries that were part of European colonial empires qualified as well.

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* Third-world countries that were part of European colonial empires qualified as well. For example, much of UsefulNotes/TheRaj consisted of "princely states" led by [[LesCollaborateurs native rulers]] (with titles like nawab, nizam, sultan, raja, maharaja, etc.) who became {{voluntary vassal}}s of UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire in exchange for protection and cementation of their local authority.



* Much of UsefulNotes/TheRaj consisted of "princely states" led by [[LesCollaborateurs native rulers]] (with titles like nawab, nizam, sultan, raja, maharaja, etc.) who became {{voluntary vassal}}s of UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire in exchange for protection and cementation of their local authority.
1st Dec '17 12:48:09 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* Much of UsefulNotes/TheRaj consisted of "princely states" led by [[LesCollaborateurs native rulers]] (with titles like nawab, nizam, sultan, raja, maharaja, etc.) who became {{voluntary vassal}}s of UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire in exchange for protection and cementation of their local authority.
22nd Nov '17 5:33:07 PM raziel365
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* The Spanish Empire, being the first of the overseas empires founded during the Age of Exploration, was closer to this in regards to its treatment of the Kingdoms of America rather than the colonial mentality that eventually became the norm for all the European countries, examples of such were the alliances with the local nobility of the conquered territories to help mantain their Viceroyalties, as well as the act of passing laws that made it explicit that all the natives were equal in right as their Spanish counterparts in the lands they lived (with the exception of the Caribean natives due to their infamy as cannibals).
29th Oct '17 8:51:44 AM jerzyszczur
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"Hegemony" is an indirect form of imperial dominance where the hegemon (leader state) rules subordinate states by the implied means of power rather than direct military force. A '''Hegemonic Empire''' doesn't need to [[AppealToForce rule through its military]]. It doesn't need to [[OrwellianEditor remove]] and [[OrwellianRetcon rewrite]] facts. It has no need to [[DoubleThink believe a contradiction]] or [[NewSpeak destroy the vocabulary]]. At the same time, it ''can'' do all of these, sometimes a bit more subtly. A Hegemonic Empire dominates through [[MoreThanMindControl attraction, absorption, enthrallment]] and sometimes BreadAndCircuses. Only towards its "enemies" does it utilize coercion, extortion and indoctrination. Common subordinate nations include protectorates, colonies, supported dictatorships, mini-states (designed to reflect their interests as a supposedly independent nation), occupied territories (where they'll force the natives to basically leach off their invaders' resources to survive), satellite states and puppet governments.

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"Hegemony" is an indirect form of imperial dominance where the hegemon (leader state) rules subordinate states by the implied means of power rather than direct military force. A '''Hegemonic Empire''' doesn't need to [[AppealToForce rule through its military]]. It doesn't need to [[OrwellianEditor remove]] and [[OrwellianRetcon [[InternalRetcon rewrite]] facts. It has no need to [[DoubleThink believe a contradiction]] or [[NewSpeak destroy the vocabulary]]. At the same time, it ''can'' do all of these, sometimes a bit more subtly. A Hegemonic Empire dominates through [[MoreThanMindControl attraction, absorption, enthrallment]] and sometimes BreadAndCircuses. Only towards its "enemies" does it utilize coercion, extortion and indoctrination. Common subordinate nations include protectorates, colonies, supported dictatorships, mini-states (designed to reflect their interests as a supposedly independent nation), occupied territories (where they'll force the natives to basically leach off their invaders' resources to survive), satellite states and puppet governments.
27th Oct '17 5:41:35 PM Mitchz95
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* In ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', Eddington accuses the Federation of being this.
** And the Dominion is a more sinister take on this; to start with, the Founders are very restrictive and totalitarian, and genetically engineer client species to roles in society (also brainwashing them into considering the Founders gods).
* The Klingon Empire seems to operate this way, especially in the TNG era. Personal freedoms are fairly pervasive and military conquest was rare, and overall Klingons default to problematic allies. [[spoiler:This briefly changed during the latter half of Gowron's reign, but appeared to be back on track by the end of Deep Space 9.]]

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* In ''Franchise/StarTrek'':
** Eddington accuses the Federation of being this in
''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', Eddington accuses even going so far as to compare them to [[TheAssimilator the Borg]].
** This a major concern of T'Kuvma's in ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery''. He fears that peaceful coexistence with
the Federation of being this.
** And
will lead to the eradication of the Klingons' warrior culture, and starts a war to unify the rest of his race against this threat.
** The
Dominion is a more sinister take on this; to start with, the Founders are very restrictive and totalitarian, and genetically engineer client species to roles in society (also brainwashing them into considering the Founders gods).
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gods). They use the Vorta as the "carrot", diplomats who promise untold riches and prosperity to races who join the Dominion willingly. If that doesn't work, they send in the Jem'Hadar to force them to join or die.
**
The Klingon Empire seems to operate this way, especially in the TNG era. Personal freedoms are fairly pervasive and military conquest was rare, and overall Klingons default to problematic allies. [[spoiler:This briefly changed during the latter half of Gowron's reign, but appeared to be back on track by the end of Deep Space 9.]]]]
21st Sep '17 3:19:09 PM Kadorhal
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** The United States is often seen as the successor of the English in this regard and differs from the British Empire for the fact that it has so far avoided direct colonization, favoring control over the markets instead. UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire initiially sought to be a hegemonic empire at the outset but gradually became a military empire upon seeing the competition from other would-be colonial powers (France, Spain, Dutch, Russia, Germany) and the political instability that happened to coincide upon their arrival in a new land. When trouble arose, Britain relied on its vast and powerful Navy, which was essentially unchallenged from the Battle of Trafalgar to the Battle of Jutland and unsurpassed until WWII (when it was surpassed...by their allies, the Americans), small, highly trained, efficient and highly mobile armies and its economic influence. The spread of English as the language of power and money (something which can partially be attributed to the US), the retention of Greenwich Mean Time and the resultant system of time zones and the widespread nature of British culture is a testament to this.
** The United States was founded with this in mind. After the Revolutionary War, the individual colonies were seen as individual nations that banded together to become an alliance of nations with one entity (The United States Government) being the regulator of all international and inter-state issues. The thought of the United States as a national identity did not gain mainstream support until the fall out of the Civil War (General Robert E. Lee would have fought for the Union if Lincoln had asked him a day earlier... Virginia seceded from the Union the day Lincoln asked and Lee sided with his country, which he believed was Virginia). Vestiges of this mentality still exist to this day with the concept of State's Rights (the 10th Amendment to the Constitution explicitly says that if the Constitution does not explicitly reserve a power for itself, than that power is ceded to the State). It's quite common for states to have unique personalities, attitudes, priorities, and interests that are not shared by their neighbors.

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** The United States is often seen as the successor of the English in this regard and differs from the British Empire for the fact that it has so far avoided direct colonization, favoring control over the markets instead. UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire initiially sought to be a hegemonic empire at the outset but gradually became a military empire upon seeing the competition from other would-be colonial powers (France, Spain, Dutch, Russia, Germany) and the political instability that happened to coincide upon their arrival in a new land. When trouble arose, Britain relied on its vast and powerful Navy, which was essentially unchallenged from the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805 to the Battle of Jutland just over a century later, and unsurpassed until WWII (when it was surpassed...surpassed... by their allies, the Americans), small, highly trained, efficient and highly mobile armies and its economic influence. The spread of English as the language of power and money (something which can partially be attributed to the US), the retention of Greenwich Mean Time and the resultant system of time zones and the widespread nature of British culture is a testament to this.
** The United States was founded with this in mind. After the Revolutionary War, the individual colonies were seen as individual nations that banded together to become an alliance of nations with one entity (The United States Government) being the regulator of all international and inter-state issues. The thought of the United States as a national identity did not gain mainstream support until the fall out fallout of [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar the Civil War War]] (General Robert E. Lee would have fought was asked to fight for the Union if Lincoln had asked him a by UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln the very day earlier... Virginia seceded from the Union the day Lincoln asked seceded, and Lee sided with his country, which he believed was Virginia).Virginia; he would have fought for the Union if Lincoln had asked a day earlier). Vestiges of this mentality still exist to this day with the concept of State's Rights (the 10th Amendment to the Constitution explicitly says that if the Constitution does not explicitly reserve a power for itself, than that power is ceded to the State). It's quite common for states to have unique personalities, attitudes, priorities, and interests that are not shared by their neighbors.



* Some have accused Germany of being this inside the European Union. Whether this is actually true depends a lot on whom you are talking to. The phrase about Germany being "too big for Europe and too small for the world" relates to the problem of Germany being (in theory) able to dominate most European countries economically and (at least in the past) militarily but unable to do really go toe to toe with major empires outside of Europe. Interestingly, some European leaders have actually called for Germany to act ''more'' like this, making them in essence [[VoluntaryVassal voluntary vassals.]]

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* Some have accused Germany of being this inside the European Union. Whether this is actually true depends a lot on whom you are talking to. The phrase about Germany being "too big for Europe and too small for the world" relates to the problem of Germany being (in theory) able to dominate most European countries economically and (at least in the past) militarily but unable to do really go toe to toe with major empires outside of Europe. Interestingly, some European leaders have actually called for Germany to act ''more'' like this, making them in essence [[VoluntaryVassal voluntary vassals.]]{{voluntary vassal}}s.
11th Aug '17 1:11:42 PM Grudgeal
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* The Sassanid Empire in ''VideoGame/TotalWarAttila'' functions this way. Its mechanics encourage the creation and maintenance of independent {{Puppet State}}s called satrapies instead of conquering and annexing territories directly. The more satrapies the Sassanids get, the more powerful your smaller core regions get, as your satraps come to your limited aid in war and provide bonuses in return for you not controlling them directly. This model is similar to the methods used by the real-life (Sassanid) Persian Empire at the time (see Real Life below).
11th Aug '17 1:02:17 PM Grudgeal
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* The Persian Empire of UsefulNotes/CyrusTheGreat could be considered the TropeMaker. Cyrus was quite tolerant towards other cultures. After invading Babylon he sent the Jews back home and gave orders that the Temple of Jerusalem be rebuilt, meaning he is portrayed very positively in Jewish scripture. However the attempted invasion of Greece seems to have given Persia a reputation of being TheEmpire, though that was done by Xerxes decades after him.

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* The Achaemenid/First Persian Empire of founded by UsefulNotes/CyrusTheGreat could be considered the TropeMaker. Cyrus The Empire was quite tolerant highly decentralised and ruled through viceroys called satraps who governed their administrative units, satrapies, in the name of the Persian emperor. Satraps enjoyed almost total freedom to rule their territories as they pleased and were allowed some degree of private armies, their only responsibility towards other cultures. After invading Babylon he sent the Jews back home crown was the levying of certain taxes and gave orders keeping internal peace and banditry down. Satraps would often belong to the native culture of their region, and have Persian advisers to keep a smooth connection between the local rule and the Emperor's court. The Persians also avoided imposing their own religion or culture on subjects, barring that the Temple as followers of Jerusalem be rebuilt, meaning he is portrayed very positively in Jewish scripture. However the attempted invasion of Greece seems to have given Persia a reputation of being TheEmpire, though that was done by Xerxes decades after him. UsefulNotes/{{Zoroastrianism}} [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil they banned slavery]].
7th Aug '17 1:22:33 PM Grudgeal
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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': Baron Wulfenbach's empire acts a lot like this. Being a part of the Wulfenbach empire means agreeing to the Baron's peace (summarized neatly as "don't make me come over there"), which means "no starting wars", "no going MadScientist on your subjects (in a way that will permanently harm them)", and "turn over all piece of [[BigBad Other]] technology you find", and beyond that any town, city or domain in the empire is ruled independently. Some level of taxation also seems to be involved, but on the other hand the Baron also builds public projects in return.

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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': Baron Wulfenbach's empire acts a lot like this. Being a part of the Wulfenbach empire means agreeing to the Baron's peace Pax Transylvania (summarized neatly as "don't make me come over there"), which means "no starting wars", "no going MadScientist on your subjects (in a way that will permanently harm them)", "no discrimination against [[ArtificialHuman constructs]]" and "turn over all piece of [[BigBad Other]] technology you find", and beyond that any town, city or domain in the empire is ruled independently. Some level of taxation also seems to be involved, but on the other hand the Baron also builds public projects in return.
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