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15th May '16 4:53:25 AM nighttrainfm
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** This is later used when Karolina begins to date Xavin, who willingly spends time as a girl with her after finding out she is a lesbian. Some Majesdonians (Karolina's alien species) later track her down and, upon hearing that she and Xavin are in a relationship, say that it is "disgusting"...[[DiscriminateAndSwitch because a Majesdonian is dating a Skrull]].

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** This is later used when Karolina begins to date Xavin, who willingly spends time as a girl with her after finding out she is a lesbian. Some Majesdonians (Karolina's alien species) later track her down and, upon hearing that she and Xavin are in a relationship, say that it is "disgusting"...[[DiscriminateAndSwitch because a Majesdonian Majesdanian is dating a Skrull]].Skrull]].
* Something-verted in ''ComicBook/YoungAvengers'', in which Billy's parents overhear him and Teddy having an argument about which of them has to tell their parents something first. They actually are a couple, but that ''specific'' conversation was about them secretly being superheroes.
29th Apr '16 5:39:06 PM MauveSilly
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** According to Robert M. Price, "The Outsider" [[http://crypt-of-cthulhu.com/homosexualpanic.htm has compelling parallels]] to a coming-out story. Though the implications are probably unintentional, this story may be one of the oldest examples of this trope.

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** According to Robert M. Price, "The Outsider" [[http://crypt-of-cthulhu.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20150319212402/http://crypt-of-cthulhu.com/homosexualpanic.htm has compelling parallels]] to a coming-out story. Though the implications are probably unintentional, this story may be one of the oldest examples of this trope.
13th Apr '16 6:15:28 AM Gamermaster
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* Done in a more sensible fashion in MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha. It's more along the lines of "Have you tried not being a group of morally-devoid combat cyborgs?" At the end of her fight with Nove, Wendi and Deed, Teana tells Nove that if she cooperates, she will be able to start over and enter rehabilitation, prompting Nove to respond that they, being combat cyborgs, are made to do battle. Teana responds that [[spoiler:Subaru]] is a case of someone who was made as a combat cyborg but nevertheless became a kind person. Teana's three opponents get the message and enter rehabilitation, with Wendi and Nove crediting Teana as the one who inspired them to change.

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* Done in a more sensible fashion in MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha.''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers''. It's more along the lines of "Have you tried not being a group of morally-devoid combat cyborgs?" At the end of her fight with Nove, Wendi and Deed, Teana tells Nove that if she cooperates, she will be able to start over and enter rehabilitation, prompting Nove to respond that they, being combat cyborgs, are made to do battle. Teana responds that [[spoiler:Subaru]] is a case of someone who was made as a combat cyborg but nevertheless became a kind person. Teana's three opponents get the message and enter rehabilitation, with Wendi and Nove crediting Teana as the one who inspired them to change.



** Many real-life minority-rights groups are beginning to find the association a bit condescending, considering comics' ongoing problem with diversity, seeing it as the co-opting of a struggle for characters that are overwhemingly straight and white.

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** Many real-life minority-rights groups are beginning to find the association a bit condescending, considering comics' ongoing problem with diversity, seeing it as the co-opting of a struggle for characters that are overwhemingly overwhelmingly straight and white.
16th Feb '16 8:19:03 AM ACW
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* In the fantasy novel ''Literature/WeaversOfSaramyr'', people born with magical powers are called "Aberrant." Veteran Aberrant Asara gives protagonist Kaiku what can only be described as a "coming out of the closet speech", urging her to accept her powers and be proud of them... moments before a big LesYay ShipTease moment.

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* In the fantasy novel ''Literature/WeaversOfSaramyr'', series ''Literature/TheBraidedPath'', people born with magical powers are called "Aberrant." Veteran Aberrant Asara gives protagonist Kaiku what can only be described as a "coming out of the closet speech", urging her to accept her powers and be proud of them... moments before a big LesYay ShipTease moment.
10th Feb '16 2:01:33 AM LondonKdS
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As one can imagine, this trope can have myriad UnfortunateImplications, especially if the {{Muggles}} have entirely justifiable reasons to fear the fictional entities in question, such as [[HorrorHunger instinctive predatory impulses towards humans]], really being AlwaysChaoticEvil apart from the occasional [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch angsty heroic one]], or being able to [[BewareTheSuperman blow somebody's head off]] by [[EyeBeams glaring at them really hard]]. It is sometimes possible to persuade people that bigotry is wrong, without attracting hostile attention, by using a non-threatening fictional analogy, though. Remember, TropesAreNotBad.

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As one can imagine, this trope can have myriad UnfortunateImplications, especially if the {{Muggles}} have entirely justifiable reasons to fear the fictional entities in question, such as [[HorrorHunger instinctive predatory impulses towards humans]], really genuinely being AlwaysChaoticEvil apart from the occasional [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch angsty heroic one]], or being able to [[BewareTheSuperman blow somebody's head off]] by [[EyeBeams glaring at them really hard]]. It is sometimes possible to persuade people that bigotry is wrong, without attracting hostile attention, by using a non-threatening fictional analogy, though. Remember, TropesAreNotBad.
8th Feb '16 3:02:46 PM LondonKdS
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As one can imagine, this trope can have myriad UnfortunateImplications, especially if the {{Muggles}} have entirely justifiable reasons to fear the fictional entities in question, such as [[HorrorHunger instinctive predatory impulses towards humans]], really being AlwaysChaoticEvil apart from the occasional [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch angsty heroic one]], or being able to [[EyeBeams blow somebody's head off]] by glaring at them really hard. It is sometimes possible to persuade people that bigotry is wrong, without attracting hostile attention, by using a non-threatening fictional analogy, though. Remember, TropesAreNotBad.

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As one can imagine, this trope can have myriad UnfortunateImplications, especially if the {{Muggles}} have entirely justifiable reasons to fear the fictional entities in question, such as [[HorrorHunger instinctive predatory impulses towards humans]], really being AlwaysChaoticEvil apart from the occasional [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch angsty heroic one]], or being able to [[EyeBeams [[BewareTheSuperman blow somebody's head off]] by [[EyeBeams glaring at them really hard.hard]]. It is sometimes possible to persuade people that bigotry is wrong, without attracting hostile attention, by using a non-threatening fictional analogy, though. Remember, TropesAreNotBad.
8th Feb '16 3:01:35 PM LondonKdS
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As one can imagine, this trope can have myriad UnfortunateImplications, especially if the {{Muggles}} have [[BewareTheSuperman justifiable reasons]] to fear the fictional entities in question, although the intent is usually to deal with a social issue without causing a moral panic. Remember, TropesAreNotBad.

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As one can imagine, this trope can have myriad UnfortunateImplications, especially if the {{Muggles}} have [[BewareTheSuperman entirely justifiable reasons]] reasons to fear the fictional entities in question, although such as [[HorrorHunger instinctive predatory impulses towards humans]], really being AlwaysChaoticEvil apart from the intent occasional [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch angsty heroic one]], or being able to [[EyeBeams blow somebody's head off]] by glaring at them really hard. It is usually sometimes possible to deal with a social issue persuade people that bigotry is wrong, without causing attracting hostile attention, by using a moral panic.non-threatening fictional analogy, though. Remember, TropesAreNotBad.
7th Feb '16 2:20:09 PM DarkPhoenix94
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* ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm'' has Bobby Drake's mother be completely unable to accept that her little boy is anything more than an ordinary human, despite ample evidence to the contrary - and she's in complete denial about the way his brother treats him too. His father, though is more accepting and frustrated by his wife's denial. The conversation, as ever, bears more than a little resemblance to parents finding out that their child is gay. It takes a gentle bit of {{Telepaty}} from Professor Xavier to clear out the reflex denial.

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* ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm'' has Bobby Drake's mother be completely unable to accept that her little boy is anything more than an ordinary human, despite ample evidence to the contrary - and she's in complete denial about the way his brother treats him too. His father, though is more accepting and frustrated by his wife's denial. The conversation, as ever, bears more than a little resemblance to parents finding out that their child is gay. It takes a gentle bit of {{Telepaty}} {{Telepathy}} from Professor Xavier to clear out the reflex denial.
30th Jan '16 1:07:41 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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*** When he wrote this, Lovecraft's actual intent may have been somewhat more awkward by today's standards - the FishPeople breeding with humans likely represented interracial sex and marriage, and being the flaming racist that he was, Lovecraft portrayed this as a Very Bad Thing™. Lovecraft might have even drawn inspiration from his own horrified discovery that his grandmother was...''Welsh'' ([[SarcasmMode oh noes!]]). Of course, since [[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UEEce0uNrUY/UBqbjLcO8PI/AAAAAAAACMg/YY5xoI4P86M/s1600/SNAP.jpg interracial sex and marriage in Lovecraft's time were stigmatized much like homosexuality]], the homosexuality parallels in ''The Shadow Over Innsmouth'' [[{{Applicability}} aren't surprising]]. "God created Adam and Eve, not [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Eric and Ariel]]!"

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*** When he wrote this, Lovecraft's actual intent may have been somewhat more awkward by today's standards - the FishPeople breeding with humans likely represented interracial sex and marriage, and being the flaming racist that he was, Lovecraft portrayed this as a Very Bad Thing™. Lovecraft might have even drawn inspiration from his own horrified discovery that his grandmother was...''Welsh'' ([[SarcasmMode oh noes!]]). Of course, since [[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UEEce0uNrUY/UBqbjLcO8PI/AAAAAAAACMg/YY5xoI4P86M/s1600/SNAP.jpg interracial sex and marriage in Lovecraft's time were stigmatized much like homosexuality]], the homosexuality parallels in ''The Shadow Over Innsmouth'' [[{{Applicability}} aren't surprising]]. "God created Adam and Eve, not [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Eric and Ariel]]!"
20th Jan '16 10:26:56 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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*** When he wrote this, Lovecraft's actual intent may have been somewhat more awkward by today's standards - the FishPeople breeding with humans likely represented interracial sex and marriage, and being the flaming racist that he was, Lovecraft portrayed this as a Very Bad Thing™. Lovecraft might have even drawn inspiration from his own horrified discovery that his grandmother was...''Welsh'' ([[SarcasmMode oh noes!]]). Of course, since [[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UEEce0uNrUY/UBqbjLcO8PI/AAAAAAAACMg/YY5xoI4P86M/s1600/SNAP.jpg interracial sex and marriage in Lovecraft's time were stigmatized much like homosexuality]], the homosexuality parallels in ''The Shadow Over Innsmouth'' [[{{Applicability}} aren't surprising]].

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*** When he wrote this, Lovecraft's actual intent may have been somewhat more awkward by today's standards - the FishPeople breeding with humans likely represented interracial sex and marriage, and being the flaming racist that he was, Lovecraft portrayed this as a Very Bad Thing™. Lovecraft might have even drawn inspiration from his own horrified discovery that his grandmother was...''Welsh'' ([[SarcasmMode oh noes!]]). Of course, since [[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UEEce0uNrUY/UBqbjLcO8PI/AAAAAAAACMg/YY5xoI4P86M/s1600/SNAP.jpg interracial sex and marriage in Lovecraft's time were stigmatized much like homosexuality]], the homosexuality parallels in ''The Shadow Over Innsmouth'' [[{{Applicability}} aren't surprising]]. "God created Adam and Eve, not [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Eric and Ariel]]!"
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