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14th Jul '17 11:12:50 PM StrixObscuro
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* Played with in ''ComicBook/ThePride'', where Owen's parents tried to have him "cured"... because he was obsessed with becoming a superhero, even before he discovered that he had superpowers. Surprisingly, they had considerably less of a problem with the fact that he was gay.
11th Jun '17 12:54:05 PM Malady
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* Jack feels this way about Greg being a nurse in ''MeetTheParents''. Even as he's extending an olive branch to Greg and trying to be less intimidating and close-minded, he basically paraphrases the page quote.

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* Jack feels this way about Greg being a nurse in ''MeetTheParents''.''Film/MeetTheParents''. Even as he's extending an olive branch to Greg and trying to be less intimidating and close-minded, he basically paraphrases the page quote.
30th May '17 9:44:59 PM nombretomado
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* In Robert Jordan's WheelOfTime, male channelers are treated like this... at the very best. Justified, though, as they are doomed to go insane, which will have disastrous effects to anything and anyone in vicinity, and at the end die a horrible death.

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* In Robert Jordan's WheelOfTime, ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'', male channelers are treated like this... at the very best. Justified, though, as they are doomed to go insane, which will have disastrous effects to anything and anyone in vicinity, and at the end die a horrible death.
30th May '17 2:21:47 PM AlienPatch
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There's a certain group of people. They have a normal lives, to an extent, but somehow they're ''different''. Not like the other people. They're something unusual. [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill Something that means they can never fit in]]. If it's at all possible, they hide their differences away from everyone else to fit in. They live in secret, ostracized from society. A subculture, upholding a [[TheMasquerade masquerade]] of being normal by day, but living out a secret lifestyle out-of-view. Chances are that if they ever tell anyone, they'll inevitably be asked, "Have you tried...''not'' being a monster?"

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There's a certain group of people. They have a normal lives, lives to an extent, but somehow they're ''different''. Not like the other people. They're something unusual. [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill Something that means they can never fit in]]. If it's at all possible, they hide their differences away from everyone else to fit in. They live in secret, ostracized from society. A subculture, upholding a [[TheMasquerade masquerade]] of being normal by day, but living out a secret lifestyle out-of-view. Chances are that if they ever tell anyone, they'll inevitably be asked, "Have you tried...''not'' being a monster?"
30th Apr '17 3:50:52 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''Series/TheVampireDiaries'' hilariously [[DiscussedTrope discusses]] and [[PlayingWithATrope plays]] with this trope upside down and sideways. Caroline, a young vampire, is seriously discriminated against and ''tortured'' by her father who is trying to cure her of her vampirism through punishment. Her mother's explanation for her father's behavior? Her parents were "raised a certain way to believe certain things" about vampires that aren't necessarily true. He even ''chooses to die'' instead of becoming a vampire because his beliefs are all he has. Irony of ironies? Her father ''is'' gay and left his wife because he could no longer live a lie. Needless to say, extremely GenreSavvy vampire Damon points out the incredible...quirkiness of the situation.

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* ''Series/TheVampireDiaries'' hilariously [[DiscussedTrope discusses]] and [[PlayingWithATrope plays]] with this trope upside down and sideways. Caroline, a young vampire, is seriously discriminated against and ''tortured'' by her father who is trying to cure her of her vampirism through punishment. Her mother's explanation for her father's behavior? Her parents were "raised a certain way to believe certain things" about vampires that aren't necessarily true. He even ''chooses to die'' instead of becoming a vampire because his beliefs are all he has. Irony of ironies? Her father ''is'' gay and left his wife because he could no longer live a lie. Needless to say, extremely GenreSavvy vampire Damon points out the incredible...quirkiness of the situation.
28th Mar '17 7:04:26 PM ErikModi
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*** There's also Charles accidentally "outing" Hank McCoy at the CIA facility. Fortunately his boss was cool with it, and only disappointed that Hank didn't feel he could be open about his mutation earlier. Hank even says something along the lines of "YouDidntAsk, so I didn't tell."

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*** There's also Charles accidentally "outing" Hank McCoy [=McCoy=] at the CIA facility. Fortunately his boss was cool with it, and only disappointed that Hank didn't feel he could be open about his mutation earlier. Hank even says something along the lines of "YouDidntAsk, so I didn't tell."
28th Mar '17 7:04:04 PM ErikModi
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*** There's also Charles accidentally "outing" Hank McCoy at the CIA facility. Fortunately his boss was cool with it, and only disappointed that Hank didn't feel he could be open about his mutation earlier. Hank even says something along the lines of "YouDidntAsk, so I didn't tell."
9th Mar '17 9:03:12 PM KaputExaltation
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There's a certain group of people. They have a normal childhood, to an extent, but somewhere along the way, they discover they're ''different''. Not like the other children. Not like their parents. They're something unusual. Something that means they can never fit in. They hide their differences deep away from themselves, but it eats away at them.

Then they find others like them - also living in secret and ostracized from society. A subculture, upholding a [[TheMasquerade masquerade]] of being normal by day, but living out a secret lifestyle in seedy bars and locations. They might [[TrialBalloonQuestion ask their family if they would still love them]], but chances are that if they ever tell their parents, acceptance will be hard, and they'll inevitably be asked, "Have you tried...''not'' being a monster?"

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There's a certain group of people. They have a normal childhood, lives, to an extent, but somewhere along the way, they discover somehow they're ''different''. Not like the other children. Not like their parents.people. They're something unusual. [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill Something that means they can never fit in. They in]]. If it's at all possible, they hide their differences deep away from themselves, but it eats away at them.

Then they find others like them - also living
everyone else to fit in. They live in secret and secret, ostracized from society. A subculture, upholding a [[TheMasquerade masquerade]] of being normal by day, but living out a secret lifestyle in seedy bars and locations. They might [[TrialBalloonQuestion ask their family if they would still love them]], but chances out-of-view. Chances are that if they ever tell their parents, acceptance will be hard, and anyone, they'll inevitably be asked, "Have you tried...''not'' being a monster?"
8th Mar '17 8:37:34 PM KaputExaltation
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This story is familiar to many real-life minorities, the most well known example being gay people, so it's not that surprising that it's so often used for various fantastical creatures as well. Often as part of TheMasquerade, you have at least someone hiding who they are from their parents.

In some cases, this appears to be a way to introduce gay themes into a plot [[RuleAbidingRebel without introducing gay characters]] when creators feel that an [[FantasticRacism allegory or metaphor]] will be [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar less likely to be censored]]. Some writers go farther and do have gay characters, sometimes [[DontExplainTheJoke making the metaphor explicit in the text]]. In these cases, it can result in certain characters reacting in a way that some real-life people react to gays, but that makes no sense in the actual context.

In its best use, this kind of scene can create an effective allegory. In other cases, it seems to be simply the natural outcome of the circumstances the story is set in. If there is a stigmatized difference that is not readily apparent or can be disguised (especially one that [[PubertySuperpower appears when the character is old enough to hide it]]), chances are that characters will try to hide it to avoid being judged, and that if/when they [[TheUnmasquedWorld come out]], it'll come as a unpleasant shock to someone.

As one can imagine, this trope can have myriad UnfortunateImplications, especially if the {{Muggles}} have entirely justifiable reasons to fear the fictional entities in question, such as [[HorrorHunger instinctive predatory impulses towards humans]], genuinely being AlwaysChaoticEvil apart from the occasional [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch angsty heroic one]], or being able to [[BewareTheSuperman blow somebody's head off]] by [[EyeBeams glaring at them really hard]]. It is sometimes possible to persuade people that bigotry is wrong, without attracting hostile attention, by using a non-threatening fictional analogy, though. Remember, TropesAreNotBad.

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This story is familiar to many real-life minorities, the most well known example being gay people, [[UsefulNotes/{{Judaism}} Jews]], so it's not that surprising that it's so often used for various fantastical creatures as well. Often as part of TheMasquerade, you have at least someone hiding who they are from their parents.

in fiction.

In some many cases, this appears to be trope is a way to introduce gay themes about minorities into a plot [[RuleAbidingRebel [[ButNotTooForeign without introducing gay characters]] being too specific about what is being referenced]] when creators feel that an [[FantasticRacism allegory or metaphor]] will be [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar less likely to be censored]]. Some writers go farther and do have gay characters, sometimes [[DontExplainTheJoke making the metaphor explicit in the text]]. In these cases, it can result in certain characters reacting in a way that some real-life people react to gays, but that makes no sense in the actual context.

In its best use,
this kind of scene can way, the writer has room to create an effective allegory. In other cases, it seems to be simply allegory without any limitations. Though on rare occasion, [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory there is no allegory at all:]] the trope is just the natural outcome of the circumstances the story is set in. in.

If there is a stigmatized difference that is not readily apparent or can be disguised (especially one that [[PubertySuperpower appears when the character is old enough to hide it]]), chances are that characters will try to hide it to avoid being judged, and that if/when they their secret [[TheUnmasquedWorld come out]], it'll is revealed]], it will come as a unpleasant shock to someone.

definite shock... and [[FromBadToWorse invite]] [[FinalSolution mortal]] [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust danger]].

As one can imagine, this trope can have myriad UnfortunateImplications, especially if the {{Muggles}} have [[InformedWrongness entirely justifiable reasons to fear the fictional entities in question, question]], such as [[HorrorHunger instinctive predatory impulses towards humans]], genuinely being AlwaysChaoticEvil apart from the occasional [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch angsty heroic one]], or being able to [[BewareTheSuperman blow somebody's head off]] by [[EyeBeams glaring at them really hard]]. It is sometimes possible to persuade people That said, remember that bigotry is wrong, without attracting hostile attention, by using a non-threatening fictional analogy, though. Remember, TropesAreNotBad.
2nd Feb '17 6:09:42 PM trulymadmoves
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** In the film Jacob responds: "This isn't a lifestyle choice, I was born like this."

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** In the film Jacob responds: "This isn't a lifestyle choice, I was born like this."" Through a bit of conversation, it becomes clear that she has no problems with [[spoiler:the werewolf pack simply ''being'' werewolves]]; the reason she wants them to stop is that she thinks they're responsible for the mysterious deaths going on in town. Upon being told that they're not, the issue is dropped.
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