History Main / GroundhogPeggySue

2nd Feb '18 7:05:32 PM Scistorm
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Some time later, however, he appears in the present, initially with no explanation as to what happened to the time loop. It turned out to be the work of childlike RealityWarper Kobik, who heard that some of his villainous friends missed him and decided to bring him out of the loop. He had no recollection of the loop before she told him.
9th Jan '18 6:40:11 PM Godzillawolf
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Deconstructed in ''Fanfic/PonyPOVSeries''. It's eventually revealed that [[spoiler:[[BadFuture Dark World]] is stuck in a GroundhogDayLoop with both the BigBad Nightmare Eclipse and Discord as the GroundhogPeggySue]]. In the case of [[spoiler:Discord, it's an IronicHell inflicted on him by Eclipse, and while he can use his experience from the previous loops to do better, Eclipse will never allow him to actually ''win'', and he's long since had a HeelRealization she'll never permit him to act on.]] In the case of [[spoiler:Eclipse]], she's the ''BigBad'' of the Arc, and fighting her is every bit as horrifying as one would imagine.
5th Jan '18 8:44:23 AM BeerBaron
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* For Vivec, Talos, and arguably the player characters of ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' games (the Hero of [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIDaggerfall Daggerfall]], at least, definitely had this ability, and unlocking it is sort of a hidden side quest in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind''), the ability to save scum is not a mere gameplay mechanic. In fact, the universe was created so that at least one mortal might unlock the ability. There is, however, a unique spin on this trope in that choosing to exit the loop causes every action that took place in the loop to resolve simultaneously, leading to great amounts of mind screw for everyone (Dragon Breaks; ''[[MergingTheBranches every]]'' ending of the aforementioned ''Daggerfall'' is canon in some way because of one of these, for instance).

to:

* For Vivec, Talos, and arguably the player characters of ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' games (the Hero series has the concept of [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIDaggerfall Daggerfall]], at least, definitely had "CHIM", where one becomes aware of the nature of [[GodOfGods Anu]]'s Dream but exists as one with it and maintains a sense of individuality. Vivec, the Dunmeri [[PhysicalGod Tribunal deity]], claims to have achieved this ability, and unlocking (very cryptically and steeped in heavy metaphor) explains what this means in his ''[[InGameNovel 36 Lessons of Vivec]]'' book series. Essentially, achieving CHIM is the realization that [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall you are a character in a video game]]. This comes with it is sort a number of a hidden side quest in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind''), powers which would seem god-like in-universe, including the ability to save scum [[SaveScumming Save Scum]], use the MasterConsole, and use the "Construction Set" LevelEditor. Talos, the DeityOfHumanOrigin ascended god-form of [[FounderOfTheKingdom Tiber Septim]] (and [[MergerOfSouls possibly others]], is another theorized to have achieved CHIM. Further, the series has the in-universe, metaphysical concept of "heroes". These are rare individuals not a mere gameplay mechanic. In fact, bound in any way by fate and who have the universe was created so that at least one mortal might unlock ability to rule their own destiny. Heroes are closely related to the ability. There is, however, prophecies revealed in the [[TomeOfEldritchLore Elder Scrolls]], but are not bound by them, and they often grow to become far more powerful than most other mortals. Each PlayerCharacter in the series to date has been such a unique spin on hero, and many others are mentioned in the series' lore (often as {{Long Dead Badass}}es and [[FounderOfTheKingdom Founders Of Their Kingdoms]]). Where this trope in particular applies is the "Save Scumming" aspect of CHIM. As Vivec explains in his ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' dialogue:
--> '''Vivec''': "When I die in the world of time, then I'm completely asleep. I'm very much aware
that all I have to do is choose to wake. And I'm alive again. Many times I have very deliberately tried to wait patiently, a very long, long time before choosing to exit the loop causes every action wake up. And no matter how long it feels like I wait, it always appears, when I wake up, that took place in the loop to resolve simultaneously, leading to great amounts of mind screw for everyone (Dragon Breaks; ''[[MergingTheBranches every]]'' ending of the aforementioned ''Daggerfall'' is canon in some way because of one of these, for instance).no time has passed at all."
16th Dec '17 11:40:37 PM Kadorhal
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* For Vivec, Talos, and arguably the player characters of The Elder Scrolls games (the Hero of Daggerfall, at least, definitely had this ability, and unlocking it is sort of a hidden side quest in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind''), the ability to save scum is not a mere gameplay mechanic. In fact, the universe was created so that at least one mortal might unlock the ability. There is, however, a unique spin on this trope in that upon choosing to exit the loop causes every action that took place in the loop to resolve simultaneously, leading to great amounts of mind screw for everyone (Dragon Breaks).

to:

* For Vivec, Talos, and arguably the player characters of The Elder Scrolls ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' games (the Hero of Daggerfall, [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIDaggerfall Daggerfall]], at least, definitely had this ability, and unlocking it is sort of a hidden side quest in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind''), the ability to save scum is not a mere gameplay mechanic. In fact, the universe was created so that at least one mortal might unlock the ability. There is, however, a unique spin on this trope in that upon choosing to exit the loop causes every action that took place in the loop to resolve simultaneously, leading to great amounts of mind screw for everyone (Dragon Breaks). Breaks; ''[[MergingTheBranches every]]'' ending of the aforementioned ''Daggerfall'' is canon in some way because of one of these, for instance).
26th Nov '17 12:27:49 PM dracogeorge
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11822902/1/Not-this-time-Fate Not this time, Fate]]'' by Coeur Al'Aran (of {{Professor Arc}} fame) A RWBY fanfic in which Juane Arc has been in a loop for a century at least, and nothing he's done has been able to save his friends.

to:

* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11822902/1/Not-this-time-Fate Not this time, Fate]]'' by Coeur Al'Aran (of {{Professor Arc}} fame) A RWBY fanfic in which Juane Jaune Arc has been in a loop for a century at least, and nothing he's done has been able to save his friends.
25th Sep '17 11:36:55 PM Shieldage
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Played with in ''Literature/TheTimeTravelersWife''. Henry's physical body constantly returns in time to his mother's death, but cannot do anything.

to:

* Played with in ''Literature/TheTimeTravelersWife''. Henry's physical body constantly returns in time to his mother's death, but he cannot do change anything.



* Happened to the [=SG1=] in ''Series/StargateSG1'' when they were trapped in a LotusEaterMachine that forced O'Neill to relive a failed Special Ops action, and Daniel to relive the death of his parents.
* ''Series/{{Misfits}} has Curtis, who has MentalTimeTravel as his power. He ends up making several loops back in time so that he and his girlfriend Sam don't get caught with drugs. He succeeds, but because he wasn't sentenced to do community service, the other main characters died (except Nathan) because he wasn't there to save them. He loops back once more to make sure he gets caught, but not Sam. The next episode has a comedic variant, where he tries several times to break up with Sam, but he feels so guilty about making her cry that [[PowerIncontinence his powers activate on their own]], sending him back to thirty seconds before he breaks up with her.

to:

* Happened to the [=SG1=] in ''Series/StargateSG1'' ''Recap/StargateSG1S2E4TheGamekeeper'' when they were trapped in a LotusEaterMachine that forced O'Neill to relive a failed Special Ops action, and Daniel to relive the death of his parents.
* ''Series/{{Misfits}} ''Series/{{Misfits}}'' has Curtis, who has MentalTimeTravel as his power. He ends up making several loops back in time so that he and his girlfriend Sam don't get caught with drugs. He succeeds, but because he wasn't sentenced to do community service, the other main characters died (except Nathan) because he wasn't there to save them. He loops back once more to make sure he gets caught, but not Sam. The next episode has a comedic variant, where he tries several times to break up with Sam, but he feels so guilty about making her cry that [[PowerIncontinence his powers activate on their own]], sending him back to thirty seconds before he breaks up with her.



* A particularly [[FateWorseThanDeath horrifying]] and tear jerking one is the fate of Jyoji Hijiri in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne''. He is essentially trapped within the endless cycle of death and rebirth that Kagutsuchi has imposed upon the worlds. He witnesses the end of one world, suffers within the Vortex World and dies, and then is reborn in the new world just in time to watch the end once more. Furthermore, he is cursed so that he can ''never'' influence these events, essentially making him a spectator for all eternity. [[spoiler: And to cap it off, it's heavily implied Hijiri is a {{reincarnation}} of Aleph from ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'', whose sin (killing God) was commited solely in an effort to ''save the world''.]]

to:

* A particularly [[FateWorseThanDeath horrifying]] and tear jerking one is the fate of Jyoji Hijiri in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne''. He is essentially trapped within the endless cycle of death and rebirth that Kagutsuchi has imposed upon the worlds. He witnesses the end of one world, suffers within the Vortex World and dies, and then is reborn in the new world just in time to watch the end once more. Furthermore, he is cursed so that he can ''never'' influence these events, essentially making him a spectator for all eternity. [[spoiler: And to cap it off, it's heavily implied Hijiri is a {{reincarnation}} of Aleph from ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'', whose sin (killing God) was commited committed solely in an effort to ''save the world''.]]



* A good part of VisualNovel/SteinsGate revolves around this. Okabe's messing around with D-Mail leads to [[spoiler:SERN mooks come crashing through his door, lead by [[TheMole Moeka]], and ultimely killing Mayuri]]. So he sets up the recently assembled [[MentalTimeTravel Time Leap machine]] to leap to the point in the past before that happened, in order to avoid it. Unfortunately, [[spoiler:every time he goes back in time, no matter what different idea he tried to save her, her death was always the result.]]

to:

* A good part of VisualNovel/SteinsGate ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'' revolves around this. Okabe's messing around with D-Mail leads to [[spoiler:SERN mooks come crashing through his door, lead by [[TheMole Moeka]], and ultimely killing Mayuri]]. So he sets up the recently assembled [[MentalTimeTravel Time Leap machine]] to leap to the point in the past before that happened, in order to avoid it. Unfortunately, [[spoiler:every time he goes back in time, no matter what different idea he tried to save her, her death was always the result.]]



* For Vivec, Talos, and arguably the player characters of The Elder Scrolls games (the Hero of Daggerfall, at least, definitely had this ability, and unlocking it is sort of a hidden side quest in Morrowind), the ability to save scum is not a mere gameplay mechanic. In fact, the universe was created so that at least one mortal might unlock the ability. There is, however, a unique spin on this trope in that upon choosing to exit the loop causes every action that took place in the loop to resolve simultaneously, leading to great amounts of mind screw for everyone (Dragon Breaks).

to:

* For Vivec, Talos, and arguably the player characters of The Elder Scrolls games (the Hero of Daggerfall, at least, definitely had this ability, and unlocking it is sort of a hidden side quest in Morrowind), ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind''), the ability to save scum is not a mere gameplay mechanic. In fact, the universe was created so that at least one mortal might unlock the ability. There is, however, a unique spin on this trope in that upon choosing to exit the loop causes every action that took place in the loop to resolve simultaneously, leading to great amounts of mind screw for everyone (Dragon Breaks).
25th Sep '17 10:56:35 PM Shieldage
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Played with in ''Literature/TheTimeTravelersWife''. Henry constantly goes back in time to his mother's death, but cannot do anything.

to:

* Played with in ''Literature/TheTimeTravelersWife''. Henry Henry's physical body constantly goes back returns in time to his mother's death, but cannot do anything.



* The kalachakras in ''TheFirstFifteenLivesOfHarryAugust'' are an entire society who meet this trope, complete with a system for sending messages arbitrarily far back in time by having people near the beginning of a loop find people near the end of a loop to give the message to.

to:

* The kalachakras in ''TheFirstFifteenLivesOfHarryAugust'' ''Literature/TheFirstFifteenLivesOfHarryAugust'' are an entire society who meet this trope, complete with a system for sending messages arbitrarily far back in time by having people near the beginning of a loop find people near the end of a loop to give the message to.
27th Jul '17 3:14:06 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
Is there an issue? Send a Message


In some versions of this trope the characters [[TheSlowPath live through each repeat of the loop fully]], while in others they make a change in the past and are instantly transported to the "present" to see what [[ForWantOfANail their actions had changed.]] With so much life experience, they quickly become the most GenreSavvy of the cast.

to:

In some versions of this trope the characters [[TheSlowPath live through each repeat of the loop fully]], while in others they make a change in the past and are instantly transported to the "present" to see what [[ForWantOfANail their actions had changed.]] With so much life experience, they quickly become the most GenreSavvy capable of the cast.
9th Jul '17 9:31:13 PM SalFishFin
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

*''Series/{{Misfits}} has Curtis, who has MentalTimeTravel as his power. He ends up making several loops back in time so that he and his girlfriend Sam don't get caught with drugs. He succeeds, but because he wasn't sentenced to do community service, the other main characters died (except Nathan) because he wasn't there to save them. He loops back once more to make sure he gets caught, but not Sam. The next episode has a comedic variant, where he tries several times to break up with Sam, but he feels so guilty about making her cry that [[PowerIncontinence his powers activate on their own]], sending him back to thirty seconds before he breaks up with her.
3rd Jul '17 10:17:46 AM viper5bravo
Is there an issue? Send a Message



to:

* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11822902/1/Not-this-time-Fate Not this time, Fate]]'' by Coeur Al'Aran (of {{Professor Arc}} fame) A RWBY fanfic in which Juane Arc has been in a loop for a century at least, and nothing he's done has been able to save his friends.
This list shows the last 10 events of 198. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.GroundhogPeggySue