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11th Jun '18 9:00:37 AM Jubileus57
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* In ''VideoGame/CatQuest'', the Dragons Wars which opposed the dragons to the Old Masters and the Dragonbloods, happened a very long time ago but is constantly referred to through the game.
* The Winchester War in ''VideoGame/SunlessSkies'', which opposed London loyalists to the Reach independentists, took place several years before the game, leading to the very awkward status quo in place at the start of the game. From what can be heard and seen (it left some very impressive debris fields), this war was a gruesome one.
2nd Jun '18 6:38:08 PM ManEFaces
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** Other important conflicts are the ''other'' Shadow Wars, the war against the [[EldritchAbomination Thirdspace Aliens]], the one against whoever created The Hand (purpoted to be the Thirdspace Aliens in the ExpandedUniverse), the genocidal war between the Centauri and their co-worlder race the Xon, the Shroggen invasion of Centauri Prime the Centauri-Orieni War and the Orieni-Minbari War.
*** The Centauri-Xon War and the Shroggen invasion are particularly important because they're why the Centauri created [[TheEmpire an empire]] and have ChronicBackstabbingDisorder as their [[PlanetOfHats Hat]]. Before first contact, the Xon were a technologically primitive species that lived on Centauri Prime's southern continent, while the Centauri were ''{{Actual Pacifist}}s'' with an unified confederation of four kingdoms and Renaissance-level technology. After Centauri explorers found them, the Xon took over their ships and copied them to invade the Centauri kingdoms, killing everyone who opposed them and enslaving the rest, thus shattering Centauri society that, [[HeWhoFightsMonsters to fight back, reformed on the Noble Houses and then the Centauri Republic, with the power equilibrium kept by their infamous infighting]]. With time and the Xon on full retreat the Centauri ''may'' have returned to a relatively more peaceful society, except that, around the time the Houses created the Republic and developed 20th century-equivalent technology with help from the passing Technomages, the Shroggen invaded (they were actually after the Technomages, but, with their quarry helping the Centauri and themselves being [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Shadow servants]], they launched a full-blown invasion, and the Centauri had to deal with that too. After that they took the stars as conquerors [[NeverBeHurtAgain because otherwise they expected they would be conquered or exterminated]] [[IDidWhatIHadToDo and someone else would conquer or exterminate their subjects]], [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope and then started conquering for conquest's sake]].
*** Also, the two wars involving the Orieni. The Centauri-Orieni War is the reason the Centauri are a VestigialEmpire ([[PyrrhicVictory their victory weakened them enough to prevent them from conquering the Fringe Worlds, and the following Civil War caused them to abandon a large part of their empire]]) and Earth Alliance and the League exist at all (the League was born from the Abbai unifying the rest of what the Centauri called the Fringe Worlds with most of the worlds abandoned by the Centauri in a league specifically to prevent a Centauri resurgence, while Earth is extremely close to Centauri space and the war happened from 2001 to 2009, and would have been conquered had the Centauri not been to busy with the Orieni to follow our messages) and the Dilgar War happened at all ([[ForWantOfANail about at that time the Centauri found out the Orieni had recovered, causing the Centauri to redeploy the fleet they were amassing to conquer the Dilgar while they were distracted with their invasion to the border facing the Orieni while they fortified the border systems]]), while the Minbari-Orieni War is why the Minbari didn't have a larger impact on the Drakh War (the Orieni, mad at the other younger races for chasing away their Living Gods AKA the Vorlon (who, when asked, had told them they weren't gods), decided to make them pay starting from the Minbari, and attacked about the same time the Drakh were attacking Earth. Caught by surprise and not having recovered yet from the Earth-Minbari War, the Minbari couldn't just swat them away, and by the time their superior technology allowed them to stem the tide they were effectively crippled).
** {{Subverted}} by the Centauri-Garmak War. Being the conflict that propelled the Centauri from the status of fledgling empire to local superpower by absorbing the Garmak Empire and reverse-engineering their technology, with the addition of leaving them with an healthy fear of the Minbari you'd expect this. The Centauri and the minor powers of the era expected this, and the Centauri planned to start it by assembling their largest fleet ever and attacking the largest concentration of Garmak ships they could find. Then, as they were about to enter weapon range, [[DidntSeeThatComing the Minbari jumped in and wiped out the Garmak fleet before jumping out and doing the same to the entire Garmak military or race]] ([[MuggingTheMonster it turned out the Garmak believed the Minbari were a paper tiger and had raided some religious outpost]]), and the Centauri, [[OhCrap after recovering from the shock and making sure the Minbari were not after them too and had returned home]], simply marched in and conquered without firing a shot.
*** DoubleSubverted in older sources, as the Garmak managed to resist for ''four years'' due to the Minbari being less advanced than in modern times and still recovering from the last Shadow War. It also specifies that the Garmak survived, just completely helpless to stop the Centauri to waltz in and conquer everything.

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** Other important conflicts are the ''other'' Shadow Wars, the war against the [[EldritchAbomination Thirdspace Aliens]], the one against whoever created The Hand (purpoted to be the Thirdspace Aliens in the ExpandedUniverse), and the genocidal war between the Centauri and their co-worlder race the Xon, the Shroggen invasion of Centauri Prime the Centauri-Orieni War and the Orieni-Minbari War.
*** The Centauri-Xon War and the Shroggen invasion are particularly important because they're why the Centauri created [[TheEmpire an empire]] and have ChronicBackstabbingDisorder as their [[PlanetOfHats Hat]]. Before first contact, the Xon were a technologically primitive species that lived on Centauri Prime's southern continent, while the Centauri were ''{{Actual Pacifist}}s'' with an unified confederation of four kingdoms and Renaissance-level technology. After Centauri explorers found them, the Xon took over their ships and copied them to invade the Centauri kingdoms, killing everyone who opposed them and enslaving the rest, thus shattering Centauri society that, [[HeWhoFightsMonsters to fight back, reformed on the Noble Houses and then the Centauri Republic, with the power equilibrium kept by their infamous infighting]]. With time and the Xon on full retreat the Centauri ''may'' have returned to a relatively more peaceful society, except that, around the time the Houses created the Republic and developed 20th century-equivalent technology with help from the passing Technomages, the Shroggen invaded (they were actually after the Technomages, but, with their quarry helping the Centauri and themselves being [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Shadow servants]], they launched a full-blown invasion, and the Centauri had to deal with that too. After that they took the stars as conquerors [[NeverBeHurtAgain because otherwise they expected they would be conquered or exterminated]] [[IDidWhatIHadToDo and someone else would conquer or exterminate their subjects]], [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope and then started conquering for conquest's sake]].
*** Also, the two wars involving the Orieni. The Centauri-Orieni War is the reason the Centauri are a VestigialEmpire ([[PyrrhicVictory their victory weakened them enough to prevent them from conquering the Fringe Worlds, and the following Civil War caused them to abandon a large part of their empire]]) and Earth Alliance and the League exist at all (the League was born from the Abbai unifying the rest of what the Centauri called the Fringe Worlds with most of the worlds abandoned by the Centauri in a league specifically to prevent a Centauri resurgence, while Earth is extremely close to Centauri space and the war happened from 2001 to 2009, and would have been conquered had the Centauri not been to busy with the Orieni to follow our messages) and the Dilgar War happened at all ([[ForWantOfANail about at that time the Centauri found out the Orieni had recovered, causing the Centauri to redeploy the fleet they were amassing to conquer the Dilgar while they were distracted with their invasion to the border facing the Orieni while they fortified the border systems]]), while the Minbari-Orieni War is why the Minbari didn't have a larger impact on the Drakh War (the Orieni, mad at the other younger races for chasing away their Living Gods AKA the Vorlon (who, when asked, had told them they weren't gods), decided to make them pay starting from the Minbari, and attacked about the same time the Drakh were attacking Earth. Caught by surprise and not having recovered yet from the Earth-Minbari War, the Minbari couldn't just swat them away, and by the time their superior technology allowed them to stem the tide they were effectively crippled).
** {{Subverted}} by the Centauri-Garmak War. Being the conflict that propelled the Centauri from the status of fledgling empire to local superpower by absorbing the Garmak Empire and reverse-engineering their technology, with the addition of leaving them with an healthy fear of the Minbari you'd expect this. The Centauri and the minor powers of the era expected this, and the Centauri planned to start it by assembling their largest fleet ever and attacking the largest concentration of Garmak ships they could find. Then, as they were about to enter weapon range, [[DidntSeeThatComing the Minbari jumped in and wiped out the Garmak fleet before jumping out and doing the same to the entire Garmak military or race]] ([[MuggingTheMonster it turned out the Garmak believed the Minbari were a paper tiger and had raided some religious outpost]]), and the Centauri, [[OhCrap after recovering from the shock and making sure the Minbari were not after them too and had returned home]], simply marched in and conquered without firing a shot.
*** DoubleSubverted in older sources, as the Garmak managed to resist for ''four years'' due to the Minbari being less advanced than in modern times and still recovering from the last Shadow War. It also specifies that the Garmak survived, just completely helpless to stop the Centauri to waltz in and conquer everything.
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29th May '18 6:59:09 AM Cuddles
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* The Sin War, an eternal war between the forces of Heaven and Hell, is given as the background to ''VideoGames/{{Diablo}}'', but aside from a short mention in [[AllThereInTheManual the manual]] it doesn't really make an appearance. It's only in the second game, after [[BigBad Diablo]] has been released that angels start making an appearance and the war itself becomes relevant.
* ''VideoGames/DungeonSiege2'' has an ancient war forming the entire background to the plot, although the details are somewhat vague due to the circumstances involved - the war ended when two powerful magical artifacts met which resulted in an EarthShatteringKaboom, wiping out everyone involved and reshaping the world right down to changing how magic worked. The game gives various hints about it, but many of these come from an UnreliableNarrator who [[spoiler:turns out to be the real BigBad and was lying about at least some of it all along]].
27th May '18 6:19:39 PM EmperorMax2019
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** The Dark Revolt, when the [[SlaveMook Obsidian]] caste rebelled against their Gold masters a little less than three centuries after the Conquering. The rebellion was unsuccessful, and 90% of the Obsidian population was exterminated. To prevent future rebellions, the Obsidians were stripped of all technology and banished to the poles of planets and moons, where [[LesCollaborateurs tribal shamans]] encourages the superstition that the Golds were gods, a fact which Golds masquerading as [[UsefulNotes/NorseMythology Nordic deities]] rigorously encouraged.
** More recently was the first Moon Lords' Rebellion, which began fifty-five years before the start of the trilogy, when the moons of Saturn rebelled against the Core after [BigBad Octavia au Lune] usurped her father as Sovereign. The war lasted for twenty years and did not end until The Ash Lord destroyed Rhea, the moon which had instigated the rebellion, with nuclear warheads, killing millions. Up until the second book of the trilogy, the glassy ruins of Rhea in the night sky and their children held as political hostages on Luna was enough for Octavia to keep the Moon Lords in line. After the Augustan alliance shatters at the end of Golden Son, the outer moons of the solar system declare their independence once more. Though their second rebellion does not do well, the revelation that Octavia had been keeping enough nuclear weapons to repeat what the Ash Lord did to Rhea if necessary convinces the Moon Lords to form a [[EnemyMine temporary alliance]] with the Rising to defeat the Sovereign's forces.

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** The Dark Revolt, when the [[SlaveMook Obsidian]] caste rebelled against their Gold masters a little less than three centuries after the Conquering. The rebellion was unsuccessful, and 90% of the Obsidian population was exterminated. To prevent future rebellions, the Obsidians were stripped of all technology and banished to the poles of planets and moons, where [[LesCollaborateurs tribal shamans]] encourages encouraged the superstition that the Golds were gods, a fact which Golds masquerading as [[UsefulNotes/NorseMythology Nordic deities]] rigorously encouraged.deliberately reinforced.
** More recently was the first Moon Lords' Rebellion, which began fifty-five years before the start of the trilogy, when the moons of Saturn rebelled against the Core after [BigBad [[BigBad Octavia au Lune] Lune]] usurped her father as Sovereign. The war lasted for twenty years and did not end until The Ash Lord destroyed Rhea, the moon which had instigated the rebellion, with nuclear warheads, killing millions. Up until the second book of the trilogy, the glassy ruins of Rhea in the night sky and their children held as political hostages on Luna was enough for Octavia to keep the Moon Lords in line. After the Augustan alliance shatters at the end of Golden Son, the outer moons of the solar system declare their independence once more. Though their second rebellion does not do well, the revelation that Octavia had been keeping enough nuclear weapons to repeat what the Ash Lord did to Rhea if necessary convinces the Moon Lords to form a [[EnemyMine temporary alliance]] with the Rising to defeat the Sovereign's forces.
27th May '18 6:17:46 PM EmperorMax2019
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* The ''Literature/RedRising'' trilogy has three:
** The Conquering, which took place roughly 736 years before the start of the original novel. The original Golds who colonized Luna, weary of paying heavy taxes to Earth-based corporations, declared their independence, turned around, and conquered Earth.
** The Dark Revolt, when the [[SlaveMook Obsidian]] caste rebelled against their Gold masters a little less than three centuries after the Conquering. The rebellion was unsuccessful, and 90% of the Obsidian population was exterminated. To prevent future rebellions, the Obsidians were stripped of all technology and banished to the poles of planets and moons, where [[LesCollaborateurs tribal shamans]] encourages the superstition that the Golds were gods, a fact which Golds masquerading as [[UsefulNotes/NorseMythology Nordic deities]] rigorously encouraged.
** More recently was the first Moon Lords' Rebellion, which began fifty-five years before the start of the trilogy, when the moons of Saturn rebelled against the Core after [BigBad Octavia au Lune] usurped her father as Sovereign. The war lasted for twenty years and did not end until The Ash Lord destroyed Rhea, the moon which had instigated the rebellion, with nuclear warheads, killing millions. Up until the second book of the trilogy, the glassy ruins of Rhea in the night sky and their children held as political hostages on Luna was enough for Octavia to keep the Moon Lords in line. After the Augustan alliance shatters at the end of Golden Son, the outer moons of the solar system declare their independence once more. Though their second rebellion does not do well, the revelation that Octavia had been keeping enough nuclear weapons to repeat what the Ash Lord did to Rhea if necessary convinces the Moon Lords to form a [[EnemyMine temporary alliance]] with the Rising to defeat the Sovereign's forces.
16th May '18 2:12:12 AM Jake
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Often used as a sub-trope of CrypticBackgroundReference. Compare also CataclysmBackstory. For a fight that literally happens just offscreen, see BattleDiscretionShot.

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Often used as a sub-trope of CrypticBackgroundReference. Compare also CataclysmBackstory.CataclysmBackstory, and UnspecifiedApocalypse for AfterTheEnd-type scenarios that were not necessaruily caused by war. For a fight that literally happens just offscreen, see BattleDiscretionShot.
15th May '18 8:59:07 AM ChronoLegion
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* ''Series/EmeraldCity'' has the battles against the Beast Forever, which come roughly once every generation. Specifically the last war, which took place twenty years before the events of the series, resulted in the deaths of King Pastoria and Mother South, as well as the Wizard supposedly saving Oz and becoming its ruler as a result.

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* ''Series/EmeraldCity'' has the battles against the Beast Forever, which come roughly once every generation. Specifically the last war, which took place twenty years before the events of the series, resulted in the deaths of King Pastoria and Mother South, as well as the Wizard supposedly saving Oz and becoming its ruler as a result. [[spoiler:It's eventually revealed that the King and Queen were killed by Eamonn on orders of the Wizard. Mother South is still alive and is being hidden by Glinda, breeding new witches to fight the Wizard.]]
10th May '18 1:15:46 PM LavonPapillon1
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* ''Fanfic/TheGolds'': At some point between Belle, Baelfire and Bella returning to Storybrooke and “Moving Day”, Cora found her way into Storybrooke and rallied half of its citizens into a frenzy, claiming that Bella is an abomination and should be killed before she brings disaster. [[spoiler:Cora ripped her heart out and held it as leverage against her parents, only for Bella to use her first moment of instinctive magic to turn her into a rose.]]
6th May '18 7:41:45 PM ZimFan89
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* ''FanFic/ThePiecesLieWhereTheyFell'': The war between [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Equestria]] and the Changelings, which began after the destruction of Canterlot Castle and the deaths of everyone within, and ended when Blueblood slew Queen Chrysalis (though the details of what happened in between are largely a mystery). Its ramifications are still being felt a thousand years later, including the treatment of the Changelings.
1st May '18 6:27:41 AM TheHeroHartmut
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** The "Great War" was fought between the forces of the [[AntiHumanAlliance Aldmeri Dominion]] under the leadership of the anti-human extremist [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Thalmor]] and the [[VestigialEmpire remnants]] of the Septim Empire under Emperor Titus Mede II in the 4th Era. The Dominion's forces sacked the Imperial City, committing gruesome atrocities against the city's populace. With reinforcements from his Nord forces in Skyrim, Mede was able to recapture the city, but at great cost. Knowing that his empire was too exhausted to endure further conflict, Mede reluctantly [[WonTheWarLostThePEace signed the White-Gold Concordant]]; a treaty that, among other things, banned the worship of [[DeityOfHumanOrigin Talos]] in the Empire. This particular provision angered the Nords most of all, leading to the {{Civil War}} in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]''.

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** The "Great War" was fought between the forces of the [[AntiHumanAlliance Aldmeri Dominion]] under the leadership of the anti-human extremist [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Thalmor]] and the [[VestigialEmpire remnants]] of the Septim Empire under Emperor Titus Mede II in the 4th Era. The Dominion's forces sacked the Imperial City, committing gruesome atrocities against the city's populace. With reinforcements from his Nord forces in Skyrim, Mede was able to recapture the city, but at great cost. Knowing that his empire was too exhausted to endure further conflict, Mede reluctantly [[WonTheWarLostThePEace [[WonTheWarLostThePeace signed the White-Gold Concordant]]; Concordat]]; a treaty that, among other things, banned the worship of [[DeityOfHumanOrigin Talos]] in the Empire. This particular provision angered the Nords most of all, leading to the {{Civil War}} CivilWar in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]''.



** ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'' has the Great Calamity, in which Calamity Ganon took over the Guardians and Divine Beasts and used them to ravage Hyrule. While an early expository cutscene shows a glimpse of the massacre that took place in Hyrule Castle Town [[spoiler:and Link's last retrievable memory shows the moment he succumbed to his injuries while fighting the Guardians]], the main evidence that the Calamity happened are the blasted ruins and decayed Guardians strewn about Hyrule. There's also the original battle between Hyrule and Ganon 10,000 years ago, which is only depicted on a mural in Impa's home.

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** ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'' has the Great Calamity, in which [[AncientEvil Calamity Ganon Ganon]] took over the Guardians and [[AnimalMecha Divine Beasts Beasts]] and used them to ravage Hyrule. While an early expository cutscene shows a glimpse of the massacre that took place in Hyrule Castle Town [[spoiler:and Link's last retrievable memory shows the moment he succumbed to his injuries while fighting the Guardians]], the main evidence that the Calamity happened are the blasted ruins and decayed Guardians strewn about Hyrule. There's also the original battle between Hyrule Hyrule's combined forces and Ganon 10,000 years ago, prior, which is only depicted on a mural in Impa's home.



** At the start of ''VideoGame/MetroidPrime3Corruption'', a Federation technician mentions that he hasn't seen "that many fighters scrambled since the Literature/{{Horus|Heresy}} [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Rebellion]]".

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** At the start of ''VideoGame/MetroidPrime3Corruption'', a Federation technician mentions that he hasn't seen "that many fighters scrambled since the Literature/{{Horus|Heresy}} [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} [[TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 Rebellion]]".



** Most VideoGame/FireEmblem games have this as a part of the backstory. The Archaneia games have the first war against Medeus and the dragon-realm of Doluna, where Marth's distant ancestor won fame for sealing the dragon away. Fire Emblem 8 details an ancient war against the Demon King, where the Five Heroes and the Manaketes defeated the demons, then went on to found the current kingdoms of the realm (sans Carcino). The Tellius games give us several offscreen wars of the past, the biggest being the ancient OrderVersusChaos war between Ashera and Yune, with various factions siding with either goddess. There was also a great revolt of Laguz to liberate themselves from Begnion slavery.

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** Most VideoGame/FireEmblem ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' games have this as a part of the backstory. The Archaneia games have the first war against Medeus and the dragon-realm of Doluna, where Marth's distant ancestor won fame for sealing the dragon away. Fire Emblem 8 details an ancient war against the Demon King, where the Five Heroes and the Manaketes defeated the demons, then went on to found the current kingdoms of the realm (sans Carcino). The Tellius games give us several offscreen wars of the past, the biggest being the ancient OrderVersusChaos war between Ashera and Yune, with various factions siding with either goddess. There was also a great revolt of Laguz to liberate themselves from Begnion slavery.



* In ''{{VideoGame/Warframe}}'', The Old War between the precursor Orokin Empire and the Sentients is pretty much the cause of the state of present setting. It was the cause of the creation of the playable faction, the Tenno, the release of the [[ZombieApocalypse Technocyte Plague]], and if the Stalker is to be believed, indirectly resulted in their destruction when [[spoiler:the Tenno TurnedAgainstTheirMasters and]] destroyed them, leaving behind the reams of LostTechnology that everyone is squabbling over now.

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* In ''{{VideoGame/Warframe}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Warframe}}'', The Old War between the precursor Orokin Empire and the Sentients is pretty much the cause of the state of present setting. It was the cause of the creation of the playable faction, the Tenno, the release of the [[ZombieApocalypse Technocyte Plague]], and if the Stalker is to be believed, indirectly resulted in their destruction when [[spoiler:the Tenno TurnedAgainstTheirMasters and]] destroyed them, leaving behind the reams of LostTechnology that everyone is squabbling over now.



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