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20th Aug '17 8:27:41 PM Fireblood
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* TropeNamer: ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov'', in a story-within-the-story. The Grand Inquisitor claims Christ sinned by not giving into the temptations because giving in would have meant giving man food, miracles to believe in, and an authority to rule them; here's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temptation_of_Christ the other wiki's]] explanation. The Grand Inquisitor, and the author of the story, Ivan, believe that Christ should have traded free will and a choice in whether or not to worship God for a comfortable life. It's Ivan's struggle to reconcile an "uncaring" God[[note]]"Listen: if everyone must suffer, in order to buy eternal harmony with their suffering, pray tell me what have children got to do with it? Itís quite incomprehensible why they should have to suffer, and why they should buy harmony with their suffering."[[/note]] and the alternative atheism, which he believes would lead to a world where morals don't matter since heaven and hell don't matter, and don't act as a deterrent.[[note]]"If God does not exist, then everything is permissible," so his father's behavior would have been allowed.[[/note]] His solution is that the Church should rule the world; Christ did not allow this, ergo he "sinned" and the Grand Inquisitor yells at him for it. In other words, man may not live by bread alone--but without it he will surely perish. Most people are not equipped for the kind of hardships Jesus went through. Give them safety and then they can worry about morals.

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* TropeNamer: ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov'', in a story-within-the-story. The Grand Inquisitor claims Christ sinned by not giving into the temptations because giving in would have meant giving man food, miracles to believe in, and an authority to rule them; here's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temptation_of_Christ the other wiki's]] explanation. The Grand Inquisitor, and the author of the story, Ivan, believe that Christ should have traded free will and a choice in whether or not to worship God for a comfortable life. It's Ivan's struggle to reconcile an "uncaring" God[[note]]"Listen: if everyone must suffer, in order to buy eternal harmony with their suffering, pray tell me what have children got to do with it? Itís quite incomprehensible why they should have to suffer, and why they should buy harmony with their suffering."[[/note]] and the alternative atheism, which he believes would lead to a world where morals don't matter since heaven and hell don't matter, exist, and don't can't act as a deterrent.[[note]]"If God does not exist, then everything is permissible," so his father's behavior would have been allowed.[[/note]] His solution is that the Church should rule the world; Christ did not allow this, ergo he "sinned" and the Grand Inquisitor yells at him for it. In other words, man may not live by bread alone--but without it he will surely perish. Most people are not equipped for the kind of hardships Jesus went through. Give them safety and then they can worry about morals.



* In every session with Jonas, ''Literature/TheGiver'' explains why Sameness exists, and why things are done the way they are done. [[spoiler: He later supports Jonas in bringing the society down.]]

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* In every session with Jonas, ''Literature/TheGiver'' explains why Sameness exists, and why things are done the way they are done. [[spoiler: He later supports Jonas in bringing the society down.down though.]]



* Shows up in the granddaddy of dystopias, ''Literature/{{We}}''. Here, the Great Benefactor explains to D-503 the One State's inhuman actions.

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* Shows This shows up in the granddaddy of dystopias, ''Literature/{{We}}''. Here, the Great Benefactor explains to D-503 the One State's inhuman actions.



* The flashback of ''[[Literature/SherlockHolmes A Study in Scarlet]]'' has a member of the Mormon community (originally a Gentile) being questioned by none less than Brigham Young himself about his refusal to take multiple wives or marry his daughter to a Mormon.

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* The flashback of ''[[Literature/SherlockHolmes A Study in Scarlet]]'' has a member of the Mormon community (originally a Gentile) being questioned by none no one less than Brigham Young himself about his refusal to take multiple wives or marry his daughter to a Mormon.



* The scenes between the Cigarette-Smoking Man and benevolent alien Jeremiah Smith in Series/TheXFiles episode ''Talitha Cumi'', which are explicitly based on ''The Brothers Karamazov'', even using one of the novel's most famous lines: "Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him."

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* The scenes between the Cigarette-Smoking Man and benevolent alien Jeremiah Smith in Series/TheXFiles episode ''Talitha Cumi'', ''[[Recap/TheXFilesS03E24TalithaCumi Talitha Cumi]]'', which are explicitly based on ''The Brothers Karamazov'', even using one of the novel's most famous lines: "Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him."
26th Jun '17 1:21:02 PM Allronix
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* Used as a framing device in the pilot of WesternAnimation/TronUprising where Beck is captured after his first outing of disguising himself as Tron and destroying a statue of Clu and interrogated by a [[GoodColorsEvilColors red-circuited]] figure who points out to him that the act of rebellion was foolish. Beck spends the episode arguing why he did it, why he doesn't regret it, and how he believes that belief in the system's champion can stir a revolution. [[spoiler: Even the voice of the "inquisitor" doesn't clearly give things away, given events in ''Film/TronLegacy'', as the audience is led to believe that Tron's already been [[{{Brainwashed}} rectified]], but it ends up a subversion, as the circuits turn back to their original white and blue. Tron hasn't been twisted into Rinzler yet, and he was seeking an apprentice to work on his behalf.]]

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20th Oct '16 12:50:22 AM Fireblood
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* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'' episode "The Obsolete Man", depicts a future dystopian society where a librarian named Wordsworth, played by Burgess Meredith, is sentenced to death by the chancellor (Fritz Weaver) for being "obsolete". He asks to have the chancellor visit him just before he is about to die, the method of which he is able to choose. They debate the morality of a society where a person's right to live is determined by their worth to the state. Wordsworth then reveals [[spoiler: that they are being televised, and he has chosen to die by having the now locked room set to explode at midnight. After a while, the chancellor begs Wordsworth in the "name of God" to let him go. He does just before the room explodes. The chancellor now is condemned himself for showing cowardice and deemed "obsolete" by the same court he previously presided over.]]

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* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'' episode "The "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS2E65TheObsoleteMan The Obsolete Man", Man]]", depicts a future dystopian society where a librarian named Wordsworth, played by Burgess Meredith, is sentenced to death by the chancellor (Fritz Weaver) for being "obsolete". He asks to have the chancellor visit him just before he is about to die, the method of which he is able to choose. They debate the morality of a society where a person's right to live is determined by their worth to the state. Wordsworth then reveals [[spoiler: that they are being televised, and he has chosen to die by having the now locked room set to explode at midnight. After a while, the chancellor begs Wordsworth in "in the "name name of God" (he had declared God does not exist previously) to let him go. He does just before the room explodes. The chancellor now is condemned himself for showing cowardice and deemed "obsolete" by the same court he previously presided over.]]
7th Oct '16 9:33:54 PM Ma35tro
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* The scenes between the Cigarette-Smoking Man and benevolent alien Jeremiah Smith in Series/TheXFiles episode ''Talitha Cumi'', which are explicitly based on ''The Brothers Karamazov''.

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* The scenes between the Cigarette-Smoking Man and benevolent alien Jeremiah Smith in Series/TheXFiles episode ''Talitha Cumi'', which are explicitly based on ''The Brothers Karamazov''.
Karamazov'', even using one of the novel's most famous lines: "Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him."
23rd Jul '15 2:00:59 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' episode ''The Obsolete Man'', depicts a future dystopian society where a librarian named Wordsworth, played by Burgess Meredith, is sentenced to death by the chancellor (Fritz Weaver) for being "obsolete". He asks to have the chancellor visit him just before he is about to die, the method of which he is able to choose. They debate the morality of a society where a person's right to live is determined by their worth to the state. Wordsworth then reveals [[spoiler: that they are being televised, and he has chosen to die by having the now locked room set to explode at midnight. After a while, the chancellor begs Wordsworth in the "name of God" to let him go. He does just before the room explodes. The chancellor now is condemned himself for showing cowardice and deemed "obsolete" by the same court he previously presided over.]]

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* ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'' episode ''The "The Obsolete Man'', Man", depicts a future dystopian society where a librarian named Wordsworth, played by Burgess Meredith, is sentenced to death by the chancellor (Fritz Weaver) for being "obsolete". He asks to have the chancellor visit him just before he is about to die, the method of which he is able to choose. They debate the morality of a society where a person's right to live is determined by their worth to the state. Wordsworth then reveals [[spoiler: that they are being televised, and he has chosen to die by having the now locked room set to explode at midnight. After a while, the chancellor begs Wordsworth in the "name of God" to let him go. He does just before the room explodes. The chancellor now is condemned himself for showing cowardice and deemed "obsolete" by the same court he previously presided over.]]
12th Jul '15 7:43:57 AM AllenbysEyes
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* The scenes between the Cigarette-Smoking Man and benevolent alien Jeremiah Smith in Series/TheXFiles episode ''Talitha Cumi'', which are explicitly based on ''The Brothers Karamazov''.
29th Jan '15 5:56:04 AM Fireblood
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** ''Film/TheMatrix'': Agent Smith (as the "official [who] doesn't support the society") during his interrogation of Morpheus. "Humans are a disease, a moral cancer, and we are the cure."

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** ''Film/TheMatrix'': Agent Smith (as the "official [who] doesn't support the society") during his interrogation of Morpheus. "Humans are a disease, a moral cancer, and we cancer of this planet. You're a...plague. And we... are the cure."



* TropeNamer: ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov'', in a story-within-the-story. The Grand Inquisitor claims Christ sinned by not giving into the temptations because giving in would have meant giving man food, miracles to believe in, and an authority to rule them; here's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temptation_of_Christ the other wiki's]] explanation. The Grand Inquisitor, and the author of the story, Ivan, believe that Christ should have traded free will and a choice in whether or not to worship God for a comfortable life. It's Ivan's struggle to reconcile an "uncaring" God[[note]]"Listen: if everyone must suffer, in order to buy eternal harmony with their suffering, pray tell me what have children got to do with it? Itís quite incomprehensible why they should have to suffer, and why they should buy harmony with their suffering."[[/note]] and the alternative atheism, which he believes would lead to a world where morals don't matter since heaven and hell don't matter, and don't act as a deterrent[[note]]"If God does not exist, then everything is permissible," so his father's behavior would have been allowed.[[/note]]. His solution is that the Church should rule the world; Christ did not allow this, ergo he "sinned" and the Grand Inquisitor yells at him for it. In other words, man may not live by bread alone--but without it he will surely perish. Most people are not equipped for the kind of hardships Jesus went through. Give them safety and then they can worry about morals.

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* TropeNamer: ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov'', in a story-within-the-story. The Grand Inquisitor claims Christ sinned by not giving into the temptations because giving in would have meant giving man food, miracles to believe in, and an authority to rule them; here's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temptation_of_Christ the other wiki's]] explanation. The Grand Inquisitor, and the author of the story, Ivan, believe that Christ should have traded free will and a choice in whether or not to worship God for a comfortable life. It's Ivan's struggle to reconcile an "uncaring" God[[note]]"Listen: if everyone must suffer, in order to buy eternal harmony with their suffering, pray tell me what have children got to do with it? Itís quite incomprehensible why they should have to suffer, and why they should buy harmony with their suffering."[[/note]] and the alternative atheism, which he believes would lead to a world where morals don't matter since heaven and hell don't matter, and don't act as a deterrent[[note]]"If deterrent.[[note]]"If God does not exist, then everything is permissible," so his father's behavior would have been allowed.[[/note]]. [[/note]] His solution is that the Church should rule the world; Christ did not allow this, ergo he "sinned" and the Grand Inquisitor yells at him for it. In other words, man may not live by bread alone--but without it he will surely perish. Most people are not equipped for the kind of hardships Jesus went through. Give them safety and then they can worry about morals.



* The flashback of ''[[Literature/SherlockHolmes A Study in Scarlet]]'' has a member of the Mormon community (originally a Gentile) being questioned by nothing less than Brigham Young himself about his refusal to take multiple wives or marry his daughter to a Mormon.

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* The flashback of ''[[Literature/SherlockHolmes A Study in Scarlet]]'' has a member of the Mormon community (originally a Gentile) being questioned by nothing none less than Brigham Young himself about his refusal to take multiple wives or marry his daughter to a Mormon.
6th Jan '15 2:49:38 PM nombretomado
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* In RayBradbury's "The Flying Machine", a man in ancient China invents a flying machine, and the Emperor informs him that his machine must burn and he must die lest enemies use the contraption to attack the Empire.

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* In RayBradbury's Creator/RayBradbury's "The Flying Machine", a man in ancient China invents a flying machine, and the Emperor informs him that his machine must burn and he must die lest enemies use the contraption to attack the Empire.
5th Dec '14 2:40:51 PM margdean56
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** In ''Saint Joan'', the Inquisitor delivers a long and very convincing speech on the necessity of the Inquistion to a young friar who doubts Joan's heresy.

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** In ''Saint Joan'', the Inquisitor delivers a long and very convincing speech on the necessity of the Inquistion Inquisition to a young friar who doubts Joan's heresy.
29th Nov '14 5:02:01 PM Anddrix
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* ''Literature/TheGiver'': In every session with Jonas, The Giver explains why Sameness exists, and why things are done the way they are done. [[spoiler: He later supports Jonas in bringing the society down.]]

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* ''Literature/TheGiver'': In every session with Jonas, The Giver ''Literature/TheGiver'' explains why Sameness exists, and why things are done the way they are done. [[spoiler: He later supports Jonas in bringing the society down.]]
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