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25th Jul '16 1:25:29 PM Willbyr
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* Sure, Monkey D. Luffy from ''OnePiece'' trained all right, but so far his official training was only shown to be survival training and endurance--Garp was never shown teaching him any hand-to-hand combat. Luffy apparently got strong from brawls with his two older brothers and his RubberMan powers he obtained in early childhood gave him durability. But, it's implied by [[WordOfGod Oda]] that the only technique he worked on as a child was the [[RocketPunch Gum Gum Pistol]], (although a recent anime filler showed him practicing his Fuusen technique, too) and confirmed by WordOfGod that he doesn't train, but comes up with attacks on the spot; his most commonly used ones involving the ol' fists.

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* Sure, Monkey D. Luffy from ''OnePiece'' ''Manga/OnePiece'' trained all right, but so far his official training was only shown to be survival training and endurance--Garp was never shown teaching him any hand-to-hand combat. Luffy apparently got strong from brawls with his two older brothers and his RubberMan powers he obtained in early childhood gave him durability. But, it's implied by [[WordOfGod Oda]] that the only technique he worked on as a child was the [[RocketPunch Gum Gum Pistol]], (although a recent anime filler showed him practicing his Fuusen technique, too) and confirmed by WordOfGod that he doesn't train, but comes up with attacks on the spot; his most commonly used ones involving the ol' fists.
23rd Jul '16 9:20:24 PM REV6Pilot
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* Despite the variety of weapons in ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsII '', one of the most enjoyable ways to play is the embodiment of this trope and the [[BoxingBattler Boxing Battler trope]]. The use of the [[PowerFist Caestus]] in tandem with [[RawEggsMakeYouStronger a well made character]], will result in an [[VictoryPose interesting abuse of the weapon scaling system]]. When upgraded to +10(Normal), dual-wielded, and with a 40/40 str/dex the damage is comparable to most [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BFS mega-sized weapons]] but with [[LightningBruiser speed]] that rivals even the fastest weapons in the game. [[LethalJokeCharacter The hilarity and satisfaction]] at forgoing shields and defensive strategies in exchange for testosterone driven, head-on assaults with devastating combos in the face of the games various eldritch abominations is unparalleled. Be warned, however; playing a pugilist build will [[VictoryIsBoring ruin the game for you forever]]. Once you've very literally beaten the final boss with merely your fists, little else will sate your wanton lust for punching. For bonus cool, fight bosses only to [[TrainingMontage energetic 80's montage music.]]

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* Despite the variety of weapons in ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsII '', one of the most enjoyable ways to play is the embodiment of this trope and the [[BoxingBattler Boxing Battler trope]]. The use of the [[PowerFist Caestus]] in tandem with [[RawEggsMakeYouStronger a well made character]], will result in an [[VictoryPose interesting abuse of the weapon scaling system]]. When upgraded to +10(Normal), dual-wielded, and with a 40/40 str/dex the damage is comparable to most [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BFS [[{{BFS}} mega-sized weapons]] but with [[LightningBruiser speed]] that rivals even the fastest weapons in the game. [[LethalJokeCharacter The hilarity and satisfaction]] at forgoing shields and defensive strategies in exchange for testosterone driven, head-on assaults with devastating combos in the face of the games various eldritch abominations is unparalleled. Be warned, however; playing a pugilist build will [[VictoryIsBoring ruin the game for you forever]]. Once you've very literally beaten the final boss with merely your fists, little else will sate your wanton lust for punching. For bonus cool, fight bosses only to [[TrainingMontage energetic 80's montage music.]]
19th Jun '16 1:58:07 PM nombretomado
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* In ThomasPynchon's ''Mason & Dixon'', Mason is [[YourWorstNightmare menaced in his nightmares]] by a KnifeNut. After being councelled in the matter by a Malay medicine man, he defeats his dream-foe through the Gloucestershire tradition of kicking him in the shins.

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* In ThomasPynchon's Creator/ThomasPynchon's ''Mason & Dixon'', Mason is [[YourWorstNightmare menaced in his nightmares]] by a KnifeNut. After being councelled in the matter by a Malay medicine man, he defeats his dream-foe through the Gloucestershire tradition of kicking him in the shins.
14th Jun '16 1:54:09 AM NondescriptLarva
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* During an interview, Bruce Lee pointed out that 'real' fights very brutal, finished in a couple of seconds, and the 'winner' is the person that gets the first good hit. When you realize that most martial arts are essentially about 'staying upright longer than the other guy', his words hold wisdom.
24th May '16 7:27:44 AM Willbyr
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* Digimon's [[Anime/DigimonSavers fifth season]] plays with this. It turns out the most effective fighters are the ones with the greatest understanding of their abilities. Whether they figured it out for themselves the hard way or needed to go through rigorous training to understand are just means to an end. 3/4ths of the main casts are forced into training.
* ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' this appears to be Lordgenome's preferred method of fighting, with or without his HumongousMecha. When using Lazengann, he likes to beat the snot out of his opponents with black-belt level moves, and with no weapons whatsoever (save for [[ThisIsADrill drill]] [[CombatTentacles tendrils]]). It's probably why he can fistfight against Simon and Lagann once Lazengann gets thrashed.

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* Digimon's [[Anime/DigimonSavers ''Anime/DigimonSavers''' fifth season]] season plays with this. It turns out the most effective fighters are the ones with the greatest understanding of their abilities. Whether they figured it out for themselves the hard way or needed to go through rigorous training to understand are just means to an end. 3/4ths of the main casts are forced into training.
* ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' In ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', this appears to be Lordgenome's preferred method of fighting, with or without his HumongousMecha. When using Lazengann, he likes to beat the snot out of his opponents with black-belt level moves, and with no weapons whatsoever (save for [[ThisIsADrill drill]] [[CombatTentacles tendrils]]). It's probably why he can fistfight against Simon and Lagann once Lazengann gets thrashed.



* In ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' and its sequels, Arf, Zafira and Reinforce uses unarmed combat in melee, unlike most characters who rely on weapons. This carries over to ''The Battle of Aces'', [[DemotedToExtra though not for Arf]] [[SubvertedTrope until]] ''[[SubvertedTrope Gears of Destiny]]''. It should be noted, though, that the first two do use kicks as well. By ''[=ViVid=]'' the existence of Strike Arts and Kaiser Arts speaks of formalised martial arts coming into play.

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* In ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' and its sequels, Arf, Zafira and Reinforce uses unarmed combat in melee, unlike most characters who rely on weapons. This carries over to ''The Battle of Aces'', [[DemotedToExtra though not for Arf]] [[SubvertedTrope until]] ''[[SubvertedTrope Gears of Destiny]]''. It should be noted, though, that the first two do use kicks as well. By ''[=ViVid=]'' the existence of Strike Arts and Kaiser Arts speaks of formalised martial arts coming into play.



---> '''Pippin:''' You insulted me for the last time Jeffrey. I challenge you to Fisticuffs.
---> '''Jeffry:''' I accept this challenge.
---> '''Pippin:''' Have at thee!

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---> '''Pippin:''' You insulted me for the last time Jeffrey. I challenge you to Fisticuffs.
--->
Fisticuffs.\\
'''Jeffry:''' I accept this challenge.
--->
challenge.\\
'''Pippin:''' Have at thee!



* Ted in ''ZatchBell'' learned how to brawl thanks to living on the streets. His spell book is centered around gradually making him stronger and faster, but he never changes his fighting style.

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* Ted in ''ZatchBell'' ''Manga/ZatchBell'' learned how to brawl thanks to living on the streets. His spell book is centered around gradually making him stronger and faster, but he never changes his fighting style.



18th May '16 9:38:30 AM Afgncaap5
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* ''Videogame/CityOfHeroes'' has the Street Justice powerset, which is all about this kind of fighting, as opposed to Martial Arts. Both sets have their strengths over the other.

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* ''Videogame/CityOfHeroes'' has the Street Justice powerset, which is all about this kind of fighting, as opposed to Martial Arts. Both sets have their strengths over the other. In addition, City of Heroes represents this through some of the Enhancements that Natural-Origin heroes can acquire to boost their powers. In addition to the Dragon-Style martial art techniques and the Military Trainin techniques, Natural heroes could also gain Back Alley techniques, such as the Back Alley Nerve Strike's ability to increase the duration of sleep-causing powers (even if the powers themselves didn't involve physically touching an enemy.)
6th May '16 1:22:19 PM Na_Cl_H20
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* Despite the variety of weapons in ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsII '', one of the most enjoyable ways to play is the embodiment of this trope and the [[BoxingBattler Boxing Battler trope]]. The use of the [[PowerFist Caestus]] in tandem with [[RawEggsMakeYouStronger a well made character]], will result in an [[VictoryPose interesting abuse of the weapon scaling system]]. When upgraded to +10(Normal), dual-wielded, and with a 40/40 str/dex the damage is comparable to most [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BFS mega-sized weapons]] but with [[LightningBruiser speed]] that rivals even the fastest weapons in the game. [[LethalJokeCharacter The hilarity and satisfaction]] at forgoing shields and defensive strategies in exchange for testosterone driven, head-on assaults with devastating combos in the face of the games various eldritch abominations is unparalleled. Be warned, however; playing a pugilist build will RUIN THE GAME FOR YOU. You will never make a non-boxer character again. For bonus cool, fight bosses only to [[TrainingMontage energetic 80's montage music.]]

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* Despite the variety of weapons in ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsII '', one of the most enjoyable ways to play is the embodiment of this trope and the [[BoxingBattler Boxing Battler trope]]. The use of the [[PowerFist Caestus]] in tandem with [[RawEggsMakeYouStronger a well made character]], will result in an [[VictoryPose interesting abuse of the weapon scaling system]]. When upgraded to +10(Normal), dual-wielded, and with a 40/40 str/dex the damage is comparable to most [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BFS mega-sized weapons]] but with [[LightningBruiser speed]] that rivals even the fastest weapons in the game. [[LethalJokeCharacter The hilarity and satisfaction]] at forgoing shields and defensive strategies in exchange for testosterone driven, head-on assaults with devastating combos in the face of the games various eldritch abominations is unparalleled. Be warned, however; playing a pugilist build will RUIN THE GAME FOR YOU. You [[VictoryIsBoring ruin the game for you forever]]. Once you've very literally beaten the final boss with merely your fists, little else will never make a non-boxer character again.sate your wanton lust for punching. For bonus cool, fight bosses only to [[TrainingMontage energetic 80's montage music.]]
6th May '16 1:11:59 PM Na_Cl_H20
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* Despite the variety of weapons in ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsII '', one of the most enjoyable ways to play is the embodiment of this trope and the [[BoxingBattler Boxing Battler trope]]. The use of the [[PowerFist Caestus]] in tandem with [[RawEggsMakeYouStronger a well made character]], will result in an [[VictoryPose interesting abuse of the weapon scaling system]]. When upgraded to +10(Normal), dual-wielded, and with a 40/40 str/dex the damage is comparable to [[BFS mega-sized weapons]] but with [[LightningBruiser speed]] that rivals even the fastest weapons in the game. [[LethalJokeCharacter The hilarity and satisfaction]] at forgoing shields and defensive strategies in exchange for testosterone driven, head-on assaults with devastating combos in the face of the games various eldritch abominations is unparalleled. Be warned, however; playing a pugilist build will RUIN THE GAME FOR YOU. You will never make a non-boxer character again. For bonus cool, fight bosses only to [[TrainingMontage energetic 80's montage music.]]

to:

* Despite the variety of weapons in ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsII '', one of the most enjoyable ways to play is the embodiment of this trope and the [[BoxingBattler Boxing Battler trope]]. The use of the [[PowerFist Caestus]] in tandem with [[RawEggsMakeYouStronger a well made character]], will result in an [[VictoryPose interesting abuse of the weapon scaling system]]. When upgraded to +10(Normal), dual-wielded, and with a 40/40 str/dex the damage is comparable to [[BFS most [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BFS mega-sized weapons]] but with [[LightningBruiser speed]] that rivals even the fastest weapons in the game. [[LethalJokeCharacter The hilarity and satisfaction]] at forgoing shields and defensive strategies in exchange for testosterone driven, head-on assaults with devastating combos in the face of the games various eldritch abominations is unparalleled. Be warned, however; playing a pugilist build will RUIN THE GAME FOR YOU. You will never make a non-boxer character again. For bonus cool, fight bosses only to [[TrainingMontage energetic 80's montage music.]]
6th May '16 1:06:18 PM Na_Cl_H20
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* Despite the variety of weapons in ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsII '', one of the most enjoyable ways to play is the embodiment of this trope and the [[BoxingBattler Boxing Battler trope]]. The use of the Caestus in tandem with [[RawEggsMakeYouStronger a well made character]], will result in an [[VictoryPose interesting abuse of the weapon scaling system]]. When upgraded to +10(Normal), dual-wielded, and with a 40/40 str/dex the damage and speed rival even the best weapons in the game. [[LethalJokeCharacter The hilarity and satisfaction]] at forgoing shields and defensive strategies in exchange for testosterone driven, head-on assaults with devastating combos in the face of the games various eldritch abominations is unparalleled. Be warned, however; playing a pugilist build will RUIN THE GAME FOR YOU. You will never make a non-boxer character again. For bonus cool, fight bosses only to [[TrainingMontage energetic 80's montage music.]]

to:

* Despite the variety of weapons in ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsII '', one of the most enjoyable ways to play is the embodiment of this trope and the [[BoxingBattler Boxing Battler trope]]. The use of the Caestus [[PowerFist Caestus]] in tandem with [[RawEggsMakeYouStronger a well made character]], will result in an [[VictoryPose interesting abuse of the weapon scaling system]]. When upgraded to +10(Normal), dual-wielded, and with a 40/40 str/dex the damage and speed rival is comparable to [[BFS mega-sized weapons]] but with [[LightningBruiser speed]] that rivals even the best fastest weapons in the game. [[LethalJokeCharacter The hilarity and satisfaction]] at forgoing shields and defensive strategies in exchange for testosterone driven, head-on assaults with devastating combos in the face of the games various eldritch abominations is unparalleled. Be warned, however; playing a pugilist build will RUIN THE GAME FOR YOU. You will never make a non-boxer character again. For bonus cool, fight bosses only to [[TrainingMontage energetic 80's montage music.]]
6th May '16 10:56:41 AM Na_Cl_H20
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* Despite the variety of weapons in ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsII '', one of the most enjoyable ways to play is the embodiment of this trope. The use of the Caestus in tandem with [[RawEggsMakeYouStronger a well made character]], will result in an [[VictoryPose interesting abuse of the weapon scaling system]]. When upgraded to +10(Normal), dual-wielded, and with a 40/40 str/dex the damage and speed rival even the best weapons in the game. [[LethalJokeCharacter The hilarity and satisfaction]] at forgoing shields and defensive strategies in exchange for testosterone driven, head-on assaults with devastating combos in the face of the games various eldritch abominations is unparalleled. Be warned, however; playing a pugilist build will RUIN THE GAME FOR YOU. You will never make a non-boxer character again. For bonus cool, fight bosses only to [[TrainingMontage energetic 80's montage music.]]

to:

* Despite the variety of weapons in ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsII '', one of the most enjoyable ways to play is the embodiment of this trope.trope and the [[BoxingBattler Boxing Battler trope]]. The use of the Caestus in tandem with [[RawEggsMakeYouStronger a well made character]], will result in an [[VictoryPose interesting abuse of the weapon scaling system]]. When upgraded to +10(Normal), dual-wielded, and with a 40/40 str/dex the damage and speed rival even the best weapons in the game. [[LethalJokeCharacter The hilarity and satisfaction]] at forgoing shields and defensive strategies in exchange for testosterone driven, head-on assaults with devastating combos in the face of the games various eldritch abominations is unparalleled. Be warned, however; playing a pugilist build will RUIN THE GAME FOR YOU. You will never make a non-boxer character again. For bonus cool, fight bosses only to [[TrainingMontage energetic 80's montage music.]]
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