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23rd Sep '16 2:32:00 AM TheFifthGuy
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*** Although... [[spoiler: it's actually Clayface, not Joker, and thus, basically threw the fight, because he's nearly [[NoSell impossible to damage]] conventionally in his final boss fight without Freeze Grenades.]]
21st Sep '16 7:08:59 PM Piromano80
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** In the third movie we have Frank (Mike Tyson) another boxer who unlike Twister knows how to use the Ol'Fisticuffs to counter kicks and is the second person to figth Ip Man to a draw[note]]The first being Master Hung[[/note]] and only because a time limit imposed by himself.

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** In the third movie we have Frank (Mike Tyson) another boxer who unlike Twister knows how to use the Ol'Fisticuffs to counter kicks and is the second person to figth Ip Man to a draw[note]]The draw[[note]]The first being Master Hung[[/note]] and only because a time limit imposed by himself.
21st Sep '16 7:06:10 PM Piromano80
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* Compared to Batman's martial arts, ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises''' Bane fights with heavy punches and pragmatic beatdowns [[spoiler:which makes sense, he was born and raised in a prison]]. His trademark pose in which he grasps his own lapels even makes him look like a pugilist.

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* Compared to Batman's martial arts, ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises''' ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' Bane fights with heavy punches and pragmatic beatdowns [[spoiler:which makes sense, he was born and raised in a prison]]. His trademark pose in which he grasps his own lapels even makes him look like a pugilist.



* Flip-flopped in ''Film/IpMan''. Wong Leung and his friends' skills with street fighting prove no match for Ip Man's martial arts, and they're soundly beaten. Then again, Twister's Western boxing proves brutally effective against Chinese martial arts, enough to [[spoiler:actually cause Master Hung's death]].

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* Flip-flopped in ''Film/IpMan''. Wong Leung and his friends' skills with street fighting prove no match for Ip Man's martial arts, and they're soundly beaten. Then again, Twister's Western boxing proves brutally effective against Chinese martial arts, enough to [[spoiler:actually cause Master Hung's death]].death]] and give [[ShowyInvincibleHero Master Ip]] the figth of his live.
** In the third movie we have Frank (Mike Tyson) another boxer who unlike Twister knows how to use the Ol'Fisticuffs to counter kicks and is the second person to figth Ip Man to a draw[note]]The first being Master Hung[[/note]] and only because a time limit imposed by himself.
20th Sep '16 7:42:28 PM whatthefbomb
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* Terry Bogard, protagonist of Videogame/FatalFury is stated to use self-taught moves from years of wandering the streets of Southtown, getting in fights, and learning what worked and what didn't. That doesn't really explain how he figured out how to throw energy waves or flaming, explosive punches, though.
16th Sep '16 9:10:39 AM FlakyPorcupine
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* Some of the units in ''VideoGame/TotallyAccurateBattleSimulator'' use their own fists, which they flail around in an effort to punch them much like they would with a weapon.
3rd Sep '16 7:00:07 AM rafi
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* ''Manga/KenichiTheMightiestDisciple'': Berserker is noted to have never taken any formal training: his raw talent is so good that he can routinely beat even highly skilled martial artists with his street fighting skills. He is eventually defeated by Tanimoto, who claims that HardWorkHardlyWorks is a big, fat lie upon winning.
* Subverted in ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'', where Sanosuke, a brawler who gets by with CharlesAtlasSuperpower and MadeOfIron challenges Saito to a fist fight. [[WeakButSkilled Saito creams him with far better boxing technique.]]
** And played straight many, many times as well such as when he goes against opponent using strikes to the vital points. In so many words Sanosuke tells him to stop messing about and [[JustHitHim just give him a good hard slug already]]. When the opponent fails to comply, Sano obligingly demonstrates how it is done.
* Much like Berserker, Touma Kamijou from ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'' never took any kind of formal training: his raw talent as a fighter is so good that he can routinely beat armed, multiple, or even highly skilled martial artists by utilizing his own brutal band of street fighting.

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* ''Manga/KenichiTheMightiestDisciple'': Berserker is noted to have never taken any formal training: his raw talent is so good that he can routinely beat even highly skilled martial artists with his street From the prologue of ''Manga/AllRounderMeguru'': "The truth is, experienced fighting skills. He is eventually defeated by Tanimoto, who claims that HardWorkHardlyWorks is a big, fat lie upon winning.
* Subverted in ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'', where Sanosuke, a brawler who
will beat out half assed karate any time, especially when the other guys are older." Even after the timeskip, Takashi gets his ass kicked by with CharlesAtlasSuperpower and MadeOfIron challenges Saito to a fist fight. [[WeakButSkilled Saito creams him with far better boxing technique.]]
** And played straight many, many times as well such as when he goes against opponent using strikes to the vital points. In so many words Sanosuke tells him to stop messing about and [[JustHitHim just give him a good hard slug already]]. When the opponent fails to comply, Sano obligingly demonstrates how it is done.
an ex-boxer bodyguard.
* Much like Berserker, Touma Kamijou from ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'' never took any kind of formal training: his raw talent as a fighter is so good that he can routinely beat armed, multiple, or even highly skilled martial artists by utilizing his own brutal band of street fighting.



* In ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', this appears to be Lordgenome's preferred method of fighting, with or without his HumongousMecha. When using Lazengann, he likes to beat the snot out of his opponents with black-belt level moves, and with no weapons whatsoever (save for [[ThisIsADrill drill]] [[CombatTentacles tendrils]]). It's probably why he can fistfight against Simon and Lagann once Lazengann gets thrashed.
* One of the reasons ''Franchise/PrettyCure'' has a larger adult male PeripheryDemographic than most other MagicalGirl series. Transforming not only gives the Cures FrillsOfJustice and automatically-memorized InTheNameOfTheMoon speeches, but also SuperStrength and the ability to [[InASingleBound jump ridiculously high]], so they usually spend the majority of a fight scene beating the snot out of the MonsterOfTheWeek with their bare fists and pull out the magical attacks as a FinishingMove only.

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* This trope shows up in, of all places, ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar''. In an anime all about glorifying ages-old (fictional) martial arts schools with legendary histories, Juza uses a completely made-up-himself style that allows him to fight [[BigBad Raoh]] on a nearly equal basis. Sure, he also has {{Charles Atlas Superpower}}s, but almost everyone and their dog has that in the ''Fist of the North Star''-verse.
* In ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', ''Manga/{{Gamaran}}'' this appears to be Lordgenome's preferred method of is a plot point during the battle between Gama and the [[RedBaron Silver Ogre]] [[DrugsAreBad Ryuuho Kibe]]: the latter was never good at fighting, with or without but was able to bring out the full potential of the deadly Jugan drug which increases his HumongousMecha. When fighting power, and during the battle against Gama he uses a very simple style swinging his giant iron club and eventually going barehanded, boasting about how much his sheer physical prowess leaves Gama's own martial art useless. [[spoiler: Proved wrong when Gama defeats him by using Lazengann, he likes to beat the snot out a clever variation of his opponents normal signature attack to slice his fingers.]] An examples with black-belt level moves, kenjutsu rather than fisticuffs can be found in both [[TheBigGuy Iori Sengoku]] and [[BigBad Jinsuke Kurogane]]: they're recognized as incredibly strong swordsmen and yet their style is really simple but effective, to the point that Jinsuke himself, despite having mastered all the fifteen techniques of the Ogame School, is never seen using one.
* Played
with no weapons whatsoever (save for [[ThisIsADrill drill]] [[CombatTentacles tendrils]]). in ''Manga/{{Holyland}}''. Most fighters have some martial arts training as a base, even if they adapt it to the needs of the street, and effectiveness varies. The closest ones to styleless brawling uncramped by martial arts training are Yuu and Katou, although neither sticks to just hands; Yuu eventually uses kicks, elbows and wrestling, while Katou uses knees ([[GroinAttack to the groin]]), headbutts and takedowns.
* ''Manga/KenichiTheMightiestDisciple'': Berserker is noted to have never taken any formal training: his raw talent is so good that he can routinely beat even highly skilled martial artists with his street fighting skills. He is eventually defeated by Tanimoto, who claims that HardWorkHardlyWorks is a big, fat lie upon winning.
* Many delinquents of ''Manga/KyouKaraOreWa'' have been shown defeating trained martial artists with nothing more than street brawling punches. Also, partially {{Subverted}}: martial arts ''do'' work... [[UnskilledButStrong
It's probably why he can fistfight against Simon just that Mitsuhashi and Lagann once Lazengann gets thrashed.
* One of the reasons ''Franchise/PrettyCure'' has a larger adult male PeripheryDemographic
co. are]] ''[[UnskilledButStrong way]]'' [[UnskilledButStrong stronger and faster than most other MagicalGirl series. Transforming not only gives the Cures FrillsOfJustice and automatically-memorized InTheNameOfTheMoon speeches, but also SuperStrength and the ability to [[InASingleBound jump ridiculously high]], so they usually spend the majority of a fight scene beating the snot out of the MonsterOfTheWeek with their bare fists and pull out the magical attacks as a FinishingMove only.martial artists who show up]].



* Joey/Jonouchi used to be quite the street punk near the beginning of ''Anime/YuGiOh'', and he got into fistfights a lot. Sometimes these fight happened for no reason, other times it was to defend Yugi... but he proves himself to be a badass who can break jaws and noses with a swift punch to the face. Some of the earlier "games" even involved him beating the crap out of people for the sake of friendship/revenge. As Duel Monsters became more important to the plot, [[BadAssDecay he stopped getting into fights altogether]], which he even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] in ''Manga/YuGiOhR''.
* Played with in ''Manga/{{Holyland}}''. Most fighters have some martial arts training as a base, even if they adapt it to the needs of the street, and effectiveness varies. The closest ones to styleless brawling uncramped by martial arts training are Yuu and Katou, although neither sticks to just hands; Yuu eventually uses kicks, elbows and wrestling, while Katou uses knees ([[GroinAttack to the groin]]), headbutts and takedowns.
* Tawara Bunshichi from ''Manga/TenjhoTenge'' definitely qualifies. He is the only character in the series who doesn't have any special powers or utilizes some style of martial arts, preferring to simply punch the living hell out of his opponents on the rare occasions when he actually fights. And he fights so rarely because most everyone else is usually ''scared shitless'' of him.



* From the prologue of ''Manga/AllRounderMeguru'': "The truth is, experienced fighting will beat out half assed karate any time, especially when the other guys are older." Even after the timeskip, Takashi gets his ass kicked by an ex-boxer bodyguard.
* This trope shows up in, of all places, ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar''. In an anime all about glorifying ages-old (fictional) martial arts schools with legendary histories, Juza uses a completely made-up-himself style that allows him to fight [[BigBad Raoh]] on a nearly equal basis. Sure, he also has {{Charles Atlas Superpower}}s, but almost everyone and their dog has that in the ''Fist of the North Star''-verse.
* In episode 17 of YuGiOhGXTheAbridgedSeries by DarkSideCorporated two formerly nameless friends of Zane (now called Pippin and Jeffery) do this after they, once again, "take offense in that comment".
---> '''Pippin:''' You insulted me for the last time Jeffrey. I challenge you to Fisticuffs.\\
'''Jeffry:''' I accept this challenge.\\
'''Pippin:''' Have at thee!
** In the same episode Avian and Sparkman also do this while under the influence of the Monster Card Maiden in Love. Hilarious, especially when Burstinatrix shows up.

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* From Saitama from ''Manga/OnePunchMan''. He has no formal combat training, but he is so strong that simple attacks (in this case, a simple punch) are totally sufficient to smash his opponents.
* One of
the prologue of ''Manga/AllRounderMeguru'': "The truth is, experienced fighting will beat out half assed karate any time, especially when the reasons ''Franchise/PrettyCure'' has a larger adult male PeripheryDemographic than most other guys are older." Even after MagicalGirl series. Transforming not only gives the timeskip, Takashi Cures FrillsOfJustice and automatically-memorized InTheNameOfTheMoon speeches, but also SuperStrength and the ability to [[InASingleBound jump ridiculously high]], so they usually spend the majority of a fight scene beating the snot out of the MonsterOfTheWeek with their bare fists and pull out the magical attacks as a FinishingMove only.
* Subverted in ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'', where Sanosuke, a brawler who
gets his ass kicked by an ex-boxer bodyguard.
* This trope shows up in, of all places, ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar''.
with CharlesAtlasSuperpower and MadeOfIron challenges Saito to a fist fight. [[WeakButSkilled Saito creams him with far better boxing technique.]]
** And played straight many, many times as well such as when he goes against opponent using strikes to the vital points.
In an anime all so many words Sanosuke tells him to stop messing about glorifying ages-old (fictional) and [[JustHitHim just give him a good hard slug already]]. When the opponent fails to comply, Sano obligingly demonstrates how it is done.
* In ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', this appears to be Lordgenome's preferred method of fighting, with or without his HumongousMecha. When using Lazengann, he likes to beat the snot out of his opponents with black-belt level moves, and with no weapons whatsoever (save for [[ThisIsADrill drill]] [[CombatTentacles tendrils]]). It's probably why he can fistfight against Simon and Lagann once Lazengann gets thrashed.
* Tawara Bunshichi from ''Manga/TenjhoTenge'' definitely qualifies. He is the only character in the series who doesn't have any special powers or utilizes some style of
martial arts schools with legendary histories, Juza uses a completely made-up-himself style that allows him arts, preferring to fight [[BigBad Raoh]] simply punch the living hell out of his opponents on a nearly equal basis. Sure, the rare occasions when he also has {{Charles Atlas Superpower}}s, but almost actually fights. And he fights so rarely because most everyone else is usually ''scared shitless'' of him.
* Joey/Jonouchi used to be quite the street punk near the beginning of ''Anime/YuGiOh'',
and their dog has that in he got into fistfights a lot. Sometimes these fight happened for no reason, other times it was to defend Yugi... but he proves himself to be a badass who can break jaws and noses with a swift punch to the ''Fist face. Some of the North Star''-verse.
* In episode 17
earlier "games" even involved him beating the crap out of YuGiOhGXTheAbridgedSeries by DarkSideCorporated two formerly nameless friends of Zane (now called Pippin and Jeffery) do this after they, once again, "take offense in that comment".
---> '''Pippin:''' You insulted me
people for the last time Jeffrey. I challenge you sake of friendship/revenge. As Duel Monsters became more important to Fisticuffs.\\
'''Jeffry:''' I accept this challenge.\\
'''Pippin:''' Have at thee!
** In
the same episode Avian and Sparkman also do this while under the influence of the Monster Card Maiden plot, [[BadAssDecay he stopped getting into fights altogether]], which he even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] in Love. Hilarious, especially when Burstinatrix shows up. ''Manga/YuGiOhR''.



* Many delinquents of ''Manga/KyouKaraOreWa'' have been shown defeating trained martial artists with nothing more than street brawling punches. Also, partially {{Subverted}}: martial arts ''do'' work... [[UnskilledButStrong It's just that Mitsuhashi and co. are]] ''[[UnskilledButStrong way]]'' [[UnskilledButStrong stronger and faster than most martial artists who show up]].
* In ''Manga/{{Gamaran}}'' this is a plot point during the battle between Gama and the [[RedBaron Silver Ogre]] [[DrugsAreBad Ryuuho Kibe]]: the latter was never good at fighting, but was able to bring out the full potential of the deadly Jugan drug which increases his fighting power, and during the battle against Gama he uses a very simple style swinging his giant iron club and eventually going barehanded, boasting about how much his sheer physical prowess leaves Gama's own martial art useless. [[spoiler: Proved wrong when Gama defeats him by using a clever variation of his normal signature attack to slice his fingers.]] An examples with kenjutsu rather than fisticuffs can be found in both [[TheBigGuy Iori Sengoku]] and [[BigBad Jinsuke Kurogane]]: they're recognized as incredibly strong swordsmen and yet their style is really simple but effective, to the point that Jinsuke himself, despite having mastered all the fifteen techniques of the Ogame School, is never seen using one.
3rd Sep '16 6:33:34 AM Rakurai
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* Two examples from the Franchise/TalesSeries:
** ''VideoGame/TalesOfLegendia'' has Senel, the main character.
** ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'' has Jude, one of two possible main characters.

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* Two examples The ''Franchise/TalesSeries'' has many a BareFistedMonk in its playable casts, but Eizen from ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'' stands out among the Franchise/TalesSeries:
** ''VideoGame/TalesOfLegendia''
fist fighters with his rough style that emphasizes brute force augmented by his innate elemental powers. His first [[LimitBreak Mystic Arte]], for instance, simply has Senel, him go to town on the main character.
** ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia''
victim with a Dempsey Roll before finishing with an uppercut, while the third has Jude, one of two possible main characters.just has him [[MegatonPunch slug them into the stratosphere.]]
23rd Aug '16 10:25:45 AM Discar
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* [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive''. Adolin wins a duel by abandoning dueling conventions and charging forward aggressively to knock his opponent down, then dismissing his blade entirely and just savagely kicking him into submission. Navani points out that this would not have worked against a more talented duelist, but was a good tactic to disguise his true skills. Adolin reflects that it would have been far smarter if that 'had'' been why he did it.

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* [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive''. Adolin wins a duel by abandoning dueling conventions and charging forward aggressively to knock his opponent down, then dismissing his blade entirely and just savagely kicking him into submission. Navani points out that this would not have worked against a more talented duelist, but was a good tactic to disguise his true skills. Adolin reflects that it would have been far smarter if that 'had'' ''had'' been why he did it.
19th Aug '16 1:26:56 PM Morgenthaler
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* ProfessorElemental steps into the ring in boxing gloves and his "fighting trousers" in the video for his song, "Fighting Trousers." Still wearing his trademark pith helmet and Franchise/SherlockHolmes pipe.
* JamesBrown's "The Payback." "I don't know karate / But I know ka-razy"

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* ProfessorElemental Music/ProfessorElemental steps into the ring in boxing gloves and his "fighting trousers" in the video for his song, "Fighting Trousers." Still wearing his trademark pith helmet and Franchise/SherlockHolmes pipe.
* JamesBrown's Music/JamesBrown's "The Payback." "I don't know karate / But I know ka-razy"



* ''{{Exalted}}'' First Edition uses the Brawl Ability to cover untrained hand-to-hand combat, while the Martial Arts Ability covers refined unarmed combat [[MartialArtsAndCrafts along with just about everything else]]. Second Edition merged them into one Ability to make room for War, leading to an odd situation where [[EverybodyWasKungFuFighting anything that could punch or kick knew Martial Arts]]. This includes ''horses''.
** ''{{Exalted}}'' Second Edition has Solar Hero Style, essentially Good Old Fisticuffs the Supernatural Martial Art, eschewing the subtle metaphorical effects of other Supernatural Martial Arts in favor of just hitting things ''really hard''.

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* ''{{Exalted}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'':
**
First Edition uses the Brawl Ability to cover untrained hand-to-hand combat, while the Martial Arts Ability covers refined unarmed combat [[MartialArtsAndCrafts along with just about everything else]]. Second Edition merged them into one Ability to make room for War, leading to an odd situation where [[EverybodyWasKungFuFighting anything that could punch or kick knew Martial Arts]]. This includes ''horses''.
** ''{{Exalted}}'' Second Edition has Solar Hero Style, essentially Good Old Fisticuffs the Supernatural Martial Art, eschewing the subtle metaphorical effects of other Supernatural Martial Arts in favor of just hitting things ''really hard''.



* The Brawling skill in ''{{GURPS}}'' is for "unscientific unarmed combat". It costs less to train to a high level than skills like Karate or Boxing, but gives a smaller damage bonus. It also gives access to a different range of techniques, e.g. Brawling includes biting and [[EyeScream eye gouging]], while Karate allows jump kicks and backwards kicks, and both cover elbow and knee strikes.

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* The Brawling skill in ''{{GURPS}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{GURPS}}'' is for "unscientific unarmed combat". It costs less to train to a high level than skills like Karate or Boxing, but gives a smaller damage bonus. It also gives access to a different range of techniques, e.g. Brawling includes biting and [[EyeScream eye gouging]], while Karate allows jump kicks and backwards kicks, and both cover elbow and knee strikes.
25th Jul '16 1:25:29 PM Willbyr
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* Sure, Monkey D. Luffy from ''OnePiece'' trained all right, but so far his official training was only shown to be survival training and endurance--Garp was never shown teaching him any hand-to-hand combat. Luffy apparently got strong from brawls with his two older brothers and his RubberMan powers he obtained in early childhood gave him durability. But, it's implied by [[WordOfGod Oda]] that the only technique he worked on as a child was the [[RocketPunch Gum Gum Pistol]], (although a recent anime filler showed him practicing his Fuusen technique, too) and confirmed by WordOfGod that he doesn't train, but comes up with attacks on the spot; his most commonly used ones involving the ol' fists.

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* Sure, Monkey D. Luffy from ''OnePiece'' ''Manga/OnePiece'' trained all right, but so far his official training was only shown to be survival training and endurance--Garp was never shown teaching him any hand-to-hand combat. Luffy apparently got strong from brawls with his two older brothers and his RubberMan powers he obtained in early childhood gave him durability. But, it's implied by [[WordOfGod Oda]] that the only technique he worked on as a child was the [[RocketPunch Gum Gum Pistol]], (although a recent anime filler showed him practicing his Fuusen technique, too) and confirmed by WordOfGod that he doesn't train, but comes up with attacks on the spot; his most commonly used ones involving the ol' fists.
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