History Main / GoingNative

25th Apr '16 1:06:34 PM ChaoticNovelist
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There are plenty of people who believe that modern life is rubbish and would like to escape it and go live off the fat of the land. The Going Native trope plays to this fantasy by having a character lifted out of his typical environment and thrust into a new one, only to become a part of that new world. Characters who start as a {{Jerkass}} with heavy prejudices against the native group are especially prone to Going Native. They might even be sent to bring destruction or 'higher culture' in the first place. As soon as they feel quite comfortable, possibly having fallen in love with a local girl and/or learned big lessons from a mentor figure, count on their old life to come messing with them. Optionally there might be an episode of being tempted back to their [[WhatTheHellHero evil old ways]]. Or they might just rise to the occasion as a MightyWhitey.

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There are plenty of people who believe that modern life is rubbish and would like to escape it and go live off the fat of the land. The Going Native trope plays to this fantasy by having a character lifted out of his typical environment and thrust into a new one, only to become a part of that new world. Characters who start as a {{Jerkass}} with heavy prejudices against the native group are especially prone to Going Native. They might even be sent to bring destruction or 'higher culture' in the first place. As soon as they feel quite comfortable, possibly having fallen in love with a local girl and/or learned big lessons from a mentor figure, count on their old life to come messing with them. Optionally there might be an episode of being tempted back to their [[WhatTheHellHero evil "evil old ways]].ways". Or they might just rise to the occasion as a MightyWhitey.



Most real-life successful native-goers start out as extremely adaptable (e.g. Lawrence of Arabia). Dramatic requirements might call for the character to be ''not'' very adaptable to make the story of his transformation more interesting. If the character becomes more successful in his new culture than he could have ever been back home, it's LikeADuckTakesToWater.

While often considered highly problematic in fiction and academics, it's not actually a bad thing in itself. During military actions in (or the exploitation of) foreign countries it can easily lead to conflicts of interests and the current mainstream paradigm of social sciences is to keep observation from an insider perspective and an outsider perspective clearly separate. For individuals finding a new community to call their home, it is simply a case of successful integration. In recent decades, individuals that have become well integrated into local society have come to be highly valued as interpreters and mediators, as opposed to mere translators.

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Most real-life successful native-goers start out as extremely adaptable (e.g. Lawrence of Arabia). Dramatic requirements might call for the character to be ''not'' very ''not''this adaptable to make the story of his transformation more interesting. If the character becomes more successful in his new culture than he could have ever been back home, it's LikeADuckTakesToWater.

While often considered highly problematic in fiction and academics, it's not actually a bad thing in itself. During military actions in (or the exploitation of) foreign countries it can easily lead to conflicts of interests and the current mainstream paradigm of social sciences is to keep observation from an insider perspective and an outsider perspective clearly separate. For individuals finding a new community to call their home, it is simply a case of successful integration. In recent decades, individuals Individuals that have become well integrated into local society have come to be highly valued as interpreters and mediators, as opposed to mere translators.
7th Apr '16 3:40:55 PM Steven
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' has this in the ''Heavensward'' expansion as the reveal for [[spoiler: Lucia. She was originally a [{TheEmpire Garlean spy]] sent in to infiltrate Ishgard and see if they had any means of accessing Azys Lla. Lucia became Aymeric's 2nd in command to the Temple Knights and played her part well, but once she saw how much of a good person Aymeric was and what Ishgard went through with the dragons, she grew fond of him and the nation and she willingly revealed herself as a spy. Aymeric didn't care that Lucia was a spy and was glad that not only she revealed the truth, but was also glad that she wanted to fight for Ishgard's cause.]]
1st Apr '16 11:22:08 AM KeithM
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** A general rule of thumb in countries such as the US and Canada that have large immigrant populations is that the children born in their new home are, generally speaking, almost fully assimilated in the general culture, and their children certainly will be.
20th Mar '16 6:29:07 PM Kyle_Reese
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* Happens to Hope's sister, Faith, in ''Literature/HopeLeslie''.
18th Mar '16 10:23:18 AM Shinr
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* Due to a [[ForWantOfANail nail]], Enterprise and Yamato in the ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection'' fic ''FanFic/{{Eternity}}'' ended up switching nations after the War. Enterprise, now Yonaga, ended up serving Japan for so long that she gained the titular nickname ''Eien'', and in her own admission this service helped her to unwind from the near permanment RoaringRampageOfRevenge mentality she had during the Pacific War. Yamato, now USS Montana, saw quite a bit action during her service, which makes her happy after being a figurehead during the War.
17th Mar '16 8:29:31 PM Vios
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* In ''Literature/GunsOfTheDawn'', the armies of Lascanne and Denland are fighting through a swamp, and Mallen, the chief scout on the Lascanne side, has spent so long there that his sympathies lie more with the swamp's "indigines" than with either army. He helps his own side in the fight, but always in a way which doesn't conflict with his apparently higher priority of keeping the indigines out of harm's way.
15th Feb '16 7:43:43 AM MacronNotes
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Most real-life successful native-goers start out as extremely adaptable (e.g. Lawrence of Arabia). Dramatic requirements might call for the character to be ''not'' very adaptable to make the story of his transformation more interesting. If the character becomes more successful in his new culture than he could have ever been back home, it's LikeAFishTakesToWater.

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Most real-life successful native-goers start out as extremely adaptable (e.g. Lawrence of Arabia). Dramatic requirements might call for the character to be ''not'' very adaptable to make the story of his transformation more interesting. If the character becomes more successful in his new culture than he could have ever been back home, it's LikeAFishTakesToWater.
LikeADuckTakesToWater.
7th Feb '16 8:46:08 PM gemmabeta2
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* William Adams also known as Miura Anjin, an English ship's pilot working for the Dutch who eventually became an adviser to Tokugawa Ieyasu and was responsible for setting up Dutch and English trading houses in Japan. He also served as the inspiration for the Blackthorne character in ''[[Literature/AsianSaga Shogun]]''.

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* William Adams also known as Miura Anjin, an English ship's pilot working for the Dutch who eventually became an adviser to Tokugawa Ieyasu and was responsible for setting up Dutch and English trading houses in Japan. He also was officially made a samurai by Ieyasu and served as the inspiration for the Blackthorne character in ''[[Literature/AsianSaga Shogun]]''.
31st Jan '16 8:33:22 PM Fireblood
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** Steppe culture tends to do this whenever it forms an empire in settled lands. There are a number of reasons for this: the pasture is not suitable for their horses, the local culture is the only source of bureaucrats and siege engineers for further conquests, and the settled places are just plain rich and viands, concubines, and palaces are more fun then yurts. It is common though to maintain nominal deference to the GoodOldWays like building giant game preserves to hunt in or having horsetails as a flag.

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** Steppe culture tends to do this whenever it forms an empire in settled lands. There are a number of reasons for this: the pasture is not suitable for their horses, the local culture is the only source of bureaucrats and siege engineers for further conquests, and the settled places are just plain rich and viands, concubines, and palaces are more fun then than yurts. It is common though to maintain nominal deference to the GoodOldWays like building giant game preserves to hunt in or having horsetails as a flag.



* The Peranakan Chinese of South East Asia are typically descended from Chinese traders who settled in what was then the Spice Islands or the East Indies (Nanyang to the Chinese). After a few generations their customs and cuisine absorbed a lot of Malay influences, going native although they do maintain distinct traditions based on their Chinese roots.

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* The Peranakan Chinese of South East Asia are typically descended from Chinese traders who settled in what was then the Spice Islands or the East Indies (Nanyang to the Chinese). After a few generations their customs and cuisine absorbed a lot of Malay influences, going native native, although they do maintain distinct traditions based on their Chinese roots.
31st Jan '16 8:30:59 PM Fireblood
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* Gonzalo Guerrero, one of the shipwrecked Spanish sailors that Cortez encountered on his expedition: Unlike his companion Aguilar Guerrero opted to stay with the Maya and would eventually side with them against his former countrymen.

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* Gonzalo Guerrero, one of the shipwrecked Spanish sailors that Cortez encountered on his expedition: Unlike expedition, unlike his companion Aguilar Guerrero opted to stay with the Maya and would eventually side with them against his former countrymen.



* Many of the English colonials in India 'went native', especially in the early days under the East India Company, when adopting local customs and languages and marrying local women were acceptable business practices. After this was replaced by direct Government rule things changed: postings were more likely to be for fixed terms than for life, mixing with the 'natives' became more socially taboo, and acclimatisation to the local culture dwindled to a thin patina of exoticism.
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmuth_von_Pannwitz Helmuth von Pannwitz]], a German general who was placed in command of the Cossacks who defected over to the Germans to fight the Soviet Union. Due to the respect and understanding he always showed for his troops and his tendency to attend Russian Orthodox services with them, Pannwitz was very popular among his Cossack volunteers. The Cossacks even voted him as their ataman, or supreme commander. When Pannwitz surrendered and his troops were turned over to the Soviets, he chose to go with them, even when told that as a German he was not subject to repatriation and would be duly executed. The only thing preventing the whole thing from being a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming is the fact that the Cossack regiments under Pannwitz's command committed a number of atrocities against the civilian population, including several mass rapes, and routine summary executions. And, of course, continuing the Cossack tradition of Jewish pogroms.

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* Many of the English colonials in India 'went native', especially in the early days under the East India Company, when adopting local customs and languages and marrying local women were acceptable business practices. After this was replaced by direct Government rule things changed: postings were more likely to be for fixed terms than for life, mixing with the 'natives' became more socially taboo, and acclimatisation acclimatization to the local culture dwindled to a thin patina of exoticism.
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmuth_von_Pannwitz Helmuth von Pannwitz]], a German general who was placed in command of the Cossacks who defected over to the Germans to fight the Soviet Union. Due to the respect and understanding he always showed for his troops and his tendency to attend Russian Orthodox services with them, Pannwitz was very popular among his Cossack volunteers. The Cossacks even voted him as their ataman, or supreme commander. When Pannwitz surrendered and his troops were turned over to the Soviets, he chose to go with them, even when told that as a German he was not subject to repatriation repatriation. He was convicted of war crimes and would be duly executed. The only thing preventing the whole thing from being a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming is the fact that the Cossack regiments under Pannwitz's command committed a number of atrocities against the civilian population, including several mass rapes, and routine summary executions. And, of course, continuing the Cossack tradition of Jewish pogroms.



** Indeed the fact that she became a much more observant Russian Orthodox than her husband and also did more to honour the memory of his predecessor, Empress Elizabeth, was a far from unimportant factor in her gathering the support she needed to oust her husband in the first place.

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** Indeed the fact that she became a much more observant Russian Orthodox than her husband and also did more to honour honor the memory of his predecessor, Empress Elizabeth, was a far from unimportant factor in her gathering the support she needed to oust her husband in the first place.



* T. E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia), as an archeologist in Arabia, went native long before the war. He was chosen as a liaison to the Arab rebels because he knew their ways so well and could speak most of their dialects. Particularly, he was one of the few British officers who didn't speak Arabic with an Egyptian dialect, which gained him the respect of the (peninsular) Arab leaders. He was sent to organize the Arabs against the Turks to weaken the German-Turkish-Austrian alliance but felt very conflicted about the whole process because he knew that the British and French were not going to keep their wartime promise of a free, united Arab state. He asked for a transfer to get out of leading a fake revolution--when his request was denied, he attempted to make the revolution successful enough to stick. He failed. After the war, he left Arabia for good, changed his name to Shaw, and joined the RAF as a mechanic. Gone unnative?

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* T. E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia), as an archeologist archaeologist in Arabia, went native long before the war. He was chosen as a liaison to the Arab rebels because he knew their ways so well and could speak most of their dialects. Particularly, he was one of the few British officers who didn't speak Arabic with an Egyptian dialect, which gained him the respect of the (peninsular) Arab leaders. He was sent to organize the Arabs against the Turks to weaken the German-Turkish-Austrian alliance but felt very conflicted about the whole process because he knew that the British and French were not going to keep their wartime promise of a free, united Arab state. He asked for a transfer to get out of leading a fake revolution--when his request was denied, he attempted to make the revolution successful enough to stick. He failed. After the war, he left Arabia for good, changed his name to Shaw, and joined the RAF as a mechanic. Gone unnative?



* In reminiscence of a specific lord chancellor and archbishop of Canterbury who later paid his switch with his life, going native in a particular institution has been described as the "Becket effect" by economists (Thomas à Becket started his political career as a throughly loyal pawn of Henry II and a party boy. After his ascension to the archbishopric he became one of the Catholic Church's main champions in England, and an ascetic to boot). Generally, whenever a (supposed) pawn of a national government gets into a position like the European Commission or the European Central Bank, he quickly becomes a man of the club and ceases to be the lackey of his "principal", much to the chagrin of their promoters.
* Hasekura Tsunenaga led an expedition to Europe in 1614 at the behest of UsefulNotes/DateMasamune on the European-styled ship ''San Juan Bautista/ Date Maru''. These explorations were the first Japan had ever made to explore the world and went to many Christian nations. Date was a patron of Japanese Christians, while Hasekura and many of the men who served under him as the ships crew were actually Christian. At least five of these crew members would opt to stay in Coria del Rio, a small town in Spain, rather than risk persecution and death as Christians in Japan. Many in the town today claim to be descendants of the crewmen, who have taken up the surname ''Japón'' (Japan), and a statue of Hasekura stands there.

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* In reminiscence of a specific lord chancellor and archbishop of Canterbury who later paid his switch with his life, going native in a particular institution has been described as the "Becket effect" by economists (Thomas à Becket started his political career as a throughly thoroughly loyal pawn of Henry II and a party boy. After his ascension to the archbishopric he became one of the Catholic Church's main champions in England, and an ascetic to boot). Generally, whenever a (supposed) pawn of a national government gets into a position like the European Commission or the European Central Bank, he quickly becomes a man of the club and ceases to be the lackey of his "principal", much to the chagrin of their promoters.
* * Hasekura Tsunenaga led an expedition to Europe in 1614 at the behest of UsefulNotes/DateMasamune on the European-styled ship ''San Juan Bautista/ Date Maru''. These explorations were the first Japan had ever made to explore the world and went to many Christian nations. Date was a patron of Japanese Christians, while Hasekura and many of the men who served under him as the ships crew were actually Christian. At least five of these crew members would opt to stay in Coria del Rio, a small town in Spain, rather than risk persecution and death as Christians in Japan. Many in the town today claim to be descendants of the crewmen, who have taken up the surname ''Japón'' (Japan), and a statue of Hasekura stands there.
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