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25th May '16 9:24:29 AM moloch
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* Subverted in the case of the ''Admiral Graf Spee''. The captain, Hans Langsdorff, should have gone down with that ship when he ordered it scuttled on December 18, 1939, but his officers convinced him not to. So he killed himself the next day, a symbolic act of dying with his ship.

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* Subverted in the case of the ''Admiral Graf Spee''. The captain, Hans Langsdorff, should have gone down with that ship when he ordered it scuttled on December 18, 1939, but his officers convinced him not to. So he killed himself the next day, either as a symbolic act of dying with his ship.ship, or at least partly because he couldn't face returning to Germany in disgrace and [[YouHaveFailedMe quite possibly facing a firing squad for losing her.]]
23rd May '16 7:43:52 AM JoieDeCombat
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* Played straight in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' by [[spoiler: Natarle, who goes down with the [[EvilCounterpart Dominion]] in a case of TakingYouWithMe, and Captain Todaka, who goes down with ORB's flagship carrier when he (deliberately) leads it to ruin and is killed by Shinn in the Impulse.]]

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* Played straight in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' by [[spoiler: Natarle, who goes down with the [[EvilCounterpart Dominion]] when she [[TakingYouWithMe locks Muruta Azrael in a case with her on the bridge]] while the rest of TakingYouWithMe, the crew evacuates on her orders, and Captain Todaka, who goes down with ORB's flagship carrier when he (deliberately) leads it to ruin and is killed by Shinn in the Impulse.]]
23rd May '16 7:38:13 AM Morgenthaler
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->'''Disney/PeterPan:''' You know the rules, Hook: A good captain always goes down with his ship.

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->'''Disney/PeterPan:''' ->'''Peter Pan:''' You know the rules, Hook: A good captain always goes down with his ship.



* In ''Disney/ReturnToNeverLand'', Peter reminds Hook of this as his ship is sinking, saying "A good captain always goes down with his ship." Hook's response? "I don't wanna be a good captain!"



* In ''[[Disney/ReturnToNeverLand Peter Pan II: Return to Neverland]]'', when a giant octopus is about to sink Captain Hook's ship, he begs Peter Pan to save him from drowning, to which Peter Pan mockingly answers: "You know the old saying, Hook ! A good captain ''always'' goes down with his ship !". Captain Hook's reply ? "I DON'T WANNA BE A GOOD CAPTAIN !".

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* In ''[[Disney/ReturnToNeverLand Peter Pan II: Return to Neverland]]'', ''Disney/ReturnToNeverLand'', when a giant octopus is about to sink Captain Hook's ship, he begs Peter Pan to save him from drowning, to which Peter Pan mockingly answers: "You know the old saying, Hook ! A good captain ''always'' goes down with his ship !". Captain Hook's reply ? "I DON'T WANNA BE A GOOD CAPTAIN !".
23rd May '16 7:37:30 AM Morgenthaler
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-->-- ''[[Disney/PeterPan Return to Neverland]]''

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-->-- ''[[Disney/PeterPan Return to Neverland]]''
''Disney/ReturnToNeverLand''



* In ''PeterPan: Return to Neverland'', Peter reminds Hook of this as his ship is sinking, saying "A good captain always goes down with his ship." Hook's response? "I don't wanna be a good captain!"

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* In ''PeterPan: Return to Neverland'', ''Disney/ReturnToNeverLand'', Peter reminds Hook of this as his ship is sinking, saying "A good captain always goes down with his ship." Hook's response? "I don't wanna be a good captain!"
13th May '16 4:21:10 AM WoozyJack
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* In Film/{{Ben-Hur}}, the galley captain tells titular captive Judah Ben-Hur that he won't escape as long as the Roman legion who controls the ship is able to stay in control but in case they lose control to outside forces,
Ben-Hur, not the Roman captors, will sink with the rest of the slaves, chained to their assigned oars.

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* In Film/{{Ben-Hur}}, ''Film/{{Ben-Hur}}'', the galley captain tells titular captive Judah Ben-Hur that he won't escape as long as the Roman legion who controls the ship is able to stay in control but in case they lose control to outside forces,
forces, Ben-Hur, not the his Roman captors, will sink with the rest of the slaves, chained to their assigned oars.
13th May '16 4:18:18 AM WoozyJack
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* In ''Film/Ben-Hur'', the galley captain tells titular captive Judah Ben-Hur that he won't escape as long as the Roman legion who controls the ship is able to stay in control but in case they lose control to outside forces,

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* In ''Film/Ben-Hur'', Film/{{Ben-Hur}}, the galley captain tells titular captive Judah Ben-Hur that he won't escape as long as the Roman legion who controls the ship is able to stay in control but in case they lose control to outside forces,
13th May '16 4:16:42 AM WoozyJack
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* In ''Film/{{Ben-Hur}}'', the galley captain tells titular captive Judah Ben-Hur that he won't escape as long as the Roman legion who controls the ship is able to stay in control but in case they lose control to outside forces,
Ben-Hur, not the Roman crew, will be the one to sink with the rest of the slaves, chained to their assigned oars.

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* In ''Film/{{Ben-Hur}}'', ''Film/Ben-Hur'', the galley captain tells titular captive Judah Ben-Hur that he won't escape as long as the Roman legion who controls the ship is able to stay in control but in case they lose control to outside forces,
Ben-Hur, not the Roman crew, captors, will be the one to sink with the rest of the slaves, chained to their assigned oars.
13th May '16 4:12:54 AM WoozyJack
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* In ''Film/{{Ben-Hur}}'', the galley captain tells titular captive Judah Ben-Hur that he won't escape as long as the Roman legion who controls the ship is able to stay in control but in case they lose control to outside forces,
Ben-Hur, not the Roman crew, will be the one to sink with the rest of the slaves, chained to their assigned oars.
6th May '16 10:34:00 AM GlassRain
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* ''Webcomic/AwfulHospital'': The native lifeforms of Inert Vessels seem instinctively predisposed not to care about dying out from when their world becomes uninhabitable. With the notable exception of Maya Celia.



** J. Bruce Ismay, the owner and managing director of the White Star Line, averted this. He boarded the last lifeboat to be launched; the collapsibles stored on top of the officers' quarters were then washed off the boat deck. This netted Ismay a lot of controversy, with a popular myth being that he had dressed as a woman to escape. Although he did assist in loading several of the lifeboats, it was still perceived as a cowardly act and he soon resigned from the company his father had built.
** Most of the ship's department heads also went down with the ship. Chief Engineer Bell and his entire staff remained below decks to ensure the ship had power until the last moment. Senior Wireless Operator Jack Phillips also perished despite leaving shortly before the final plunge; he had continued to send wireless messages up until the end. Also the chief purser, chief steward, and even the owner of the ship's onboard restaurant.

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** J. Bruce Ismay, the owner and managing director of the White Star Line, averted this. He boarded the last lifeboat to be launched; the collapsibles collapsables stored on top of the officers' quarters were then washed off the boat deck. This netted Ismay a lot of controversy, with a popular myth being that he had dressed as a woman to escape. Although he did assist in loading several of the lifeboats, it was still perceived as a cowardly act and he soon resigned from the company his father had built.
** Most of the ship's department heads also went down with the ship. Chief Engineer Bell and his entire staff remained below decks to ensure the ship had power until the last moment. Senior Wireless Operator Jack Phillips also perished despite leaving shortly before the final plunge; he had continued to send wireless messages up until the end. Also the chief purser, chief steward, and even the owner of the ship's onboard on-board restaurant.



* Captain John P. Cromwell, an officer in the US Navy Submarine fleet, chose to go down with his sub (the ''USS Sculpin'') when it was sunk by a Japanese destroyer in the Pacific. He had personal knowledge of the US codebreaking efforts, as well as the upcoming invasion of Tarawa, [[HeroicSacrifice so he chose to die rather then risk giving up top-secret information under torture]].

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* Captain John P. Cromwell, an officer in the US Navy Submarine fleet, chose to go down with his sub (the ''USS Sculpin'') when it was sunk by a Japanese destroyer in the Pacific. He had personal knowledge of the US codebreaking code-breaking efforts, as well as the upcoming invasion of Tarawa, [[HeroicSacrifice so he chose to die rather then risk giving up top-secret information under torture]].
25th Apr '16 12:30:01 AM morane
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** Often ''inverted'' by submarine captains on surface run and surface attack, as the captain is assumed to be at the conning tower, leading the attack. If the submarine is sunk in such conditions, usually only those on the conning tower platform are the only ones to survive. Examples include Otto Kretschmer of ''U-99'' and Richard Heatherton O'Kane of ''USS Tang'' - both being their nations' leading submarine aces respectively.
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