History Main / GodSaveUsFromTheQueen

19th Feb '17 1:15:16 PM Eievie
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* ''Once Upon a Mattress'' with Queen Agravaine. Heavy overlap with MyBelovedSmother.

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* ''Once Upon a Mattress'' ''Theatre/OnceUponAMattress'' with Queen Agravaine. Heavy overlap with MyBelovedSmother.


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*''Theatre/{{Wicked}}'': As the ruler of Munchkinland, {{Yandere}} Nessarose is she is willing to strip the Munchkins of their rights and keep any of them from leaving the country just to keep Boq with her.
16th Feb '17 3:33:47 PM Eievie
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While kings and princes can be good ''or'' evil, and princesses are [[AlwaysLawfulGood always good]], queens tend to be the royalty version of AlwaysChaoticEvil. Restrained by a competent king, this usually doesn't show, but once a queen is ''in charge'', things get nasty. Either the king is missing or died in an accident--the queen might have [[BlackWidow helped things along herself]]--or he's easily manipulated for some reason. Note that there ''are'' good queens in fiction, [[MissingMom but they normally don't stay around for very long, or at all]]. And this trope comes into play whether they are ruling in their own right or as regents for [[AChildShallLeadThem the under-age king]]. (The latter group tends to fall under MyBelovedSmother, as well.)

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While kings and princes can be good [[TheWisePrince good]] ''or'' evil, [[TheEvilPrince evil]], and [[PrinceCharming nice]] or [[PrinceCharmless mean]], and princesses are [[AlwaysLawfulGood always good]], queens tend to be the royalty version of AlwaysChaoticEvil. Restrained by a competent king, this usually doesn't show, but once a queen is ''in charge'', things get nasty. Either the king is missing or died in an accident--the queen might have [[BlackWidow helped things along herself]]--or he's easily manipulated for some reason. Note that there ''are'' good queens in fiction, [[MissingMom but they normally don't stay around for very long, or at all]]. And this trope comes into play whether they are ruling in their own right or as regents for [[AChildShallLeadThem the under-age king]]. (The latter group tends to fall under MyBelovedSmother, as well.)



If the evil queen is in charge of a HiveMind, she is by definition a HiveQueen. Also overlaps with {{Matriarchy}} (particularly the Straw Matriarchy) and sometimes EvilMatriarch. In terms of the ranks of AuthorityTropes, the tropes that are equal are TheHighQueen (her SisterTrope and GoodCounterpart), TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask, SheIsTheKing, TheGoodKing and PresidentEvil. The next steps down are TheEvilPrince, PrinceCharming, PrinceCharmless, WarriorPrince, PrincelyYoungMan, TheWisePrince, and all PrincessTropes. The next step up is TheEmperor. Also compare TheCaligula.

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If the evil queen is in charge of a HiveMind, she is by definition a HiveQueen. Also overlaps with {{Matriarchy}} (particularly the Straw Matriarchy) and sometimes EvilMatriarch. In terms of the ranks of AuthorityTropes, the tropes that are equal are TheHighQueen (her SisterTrope and GoodCounterpart), TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask, SheIsTheKing, TheGoodKing and PresidentEvil. The next steps down are TheEvilPrince, PrinceCharming, PrinceCharmless, WarriorPrince, PrincelyYoungMan, TheWisePrince, and all PrincessTropes. The next step up is TheEmperor. Also compare TheCaligula.
14th Feb '17 7:09:07 PM Eievie
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Averted pretty much every time the [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses lovely princess]] becomes queen mid or end-story, or when the queen was a princess in a prequel to the story, and [[PrincessesRule when the princess rules the kingdom much like a queen would, and is only princess in title]]. Good queens don't need to be listed. They are simply TheHighQueen.

If the evil queen is in charge of a HiveMind, she is by definition a HiveQueen. Also overlaps with {{Matriarchy}} (particularly the Straw Matriarchy) and sometimes EvilMatriarch.

In terms of the ranks of AuthorityTropes, the tropes that are equal are TheHighQueen (her SisterTrope and GoodCounterpart), TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask, SheIsTheKing, TheGoodKing and PresidentEvil. The next steps down are TheEvilPrince, PrinceCharming, PrinceCharmless, WarriorPrince, PrincelyYoungMan, TheWisePrince, and all PrincessTropes. The next step up is TheEmperor. Also compare TheCaligula.

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Averted pretty much every time the [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses lovely princess]] becomes queen mid or end-story, or when the queen was a princess in a prequel to the story, and [[PrincessesRule when the princess rules the kingdom much like a queen would, and is only princess in title]]. Good queens don't need to be listed. They listed: they are simply TheHighQueen.

There is a notable difference in how queens are portrayed depending on how they came to be queen. Queens who became queen because their late father the king had no sons are ''usually'' exempt from this trope, but virtue of being the [[RightfulKingReturns "rightful heir"]]. Her [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain sexist adversaries]] may view her as this, but the narration will usually be on her side, in the style of YouGoGirl Meanwhile, queens who become queens by marrying kings and/or [[MotherMakesYouKing getting their sons on the throne]] are ''very'' likely to fall under this trope. Why? Because AmbitionIsEvil. Also, she likely became queen by marrying a king as a HotConsort, and [[TheVamp seductresses are evil]]--and she is probably suspected of being a LadyMacbeth.

If the evil queen is in charge of a HiveMind, she is by definition a HiveQueen. Also overlaps with {{Matriarchy}} (particularly the Straw Matriarchy) and sometimes EvilMatriarch.

EvilMatriarch. In terms of the ranks of AuthorityTropes, the tropes that are equal are TheHighQueen (her SisterTrope and GoodCounterpart), TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask, SheIsTheKing, TheGoodKing and PresidentEvil. The next steps down are TheEvilPrince, PrinceCharming, PrinceCharmless, WarriorPrince, PrincelyYoungMan, TheWisePrince, and all PrincessTropes. The next step up is TheEmperor. Also compare TheCaligula.






* In ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' Galadriel is most definitely TheHighQueen and a good gal, but she refuses to go by that title; or even be acknowledged as the ruler of Lórien. The reason she refuses royal titles is because she and her husband feel that Lórien is merely a place they are guarding, not ruling. The only moment when she does call herself a Queen is the moment of her temptation by the Ring. She resists it when she realizes she'll become one of these.

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* In ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' Galadriel is most definitely TheHighQueen and a good gal, but gal--but she refuses to go by that title; title, or even be acknowledged as the ruler of Lórien. The reason she refuses royal titles is because she and her husband feel that Lórien is merely a place they are guarding, not ruling. The only moment when she does call herself a Queen is the moment of her temptation by the Ring. She resists it when she realizes she'll become one of these.



--> '''Snow White:''' Someday, I'll be queen.
--> '''Queen:''' Don't you know? All queens are evil.
--> '''Snow White:''' That's the first thing I'll change!

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--> '''Snow -->'''Snow White:''' Someday, I'll be queen.
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'''Queen:''' Don't you know? All queens are evil.
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'''Snow White:''' That's the first thing I'll change!
14th Feb '17 6:45:41 PM Eievie
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Queens who became queen because their late father the king had no sons are ''usually'' exempt from this trope, but virtue of being the [[RightfulKingReturns "rightful heir"]]. Meanwhile, queens who become virtue by marrying kings and [[MotherMakesYouKing getting their sons on the throne]] are ''very'' likely to fall under this trope. Averted pretty much every time the [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses lovely princess]] becomes queen mid or end-story, or when the queen was a princess in a prequel to the story, and [[PrincessesRule when the princess rules the kingdom much like a queen would, and is only princess in title]]. Good queens don't need to be listed. They are simply TheHighQueen.

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Queens who became queen because their late father the king had no sons are ''usually'' exempt from this trope, but virtue of being the [[RightfulKingReturns "rightful heir"]]. Meanwhile, queens who become virtue by marrying kings and [[MotherMakesYouKing getting their sons on the throne]] are ''very'' likely to fall under this trope. Averted pretty much every time the [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses lovely princess]] becomes queen mid or end-story, or when the queen was a princess in a prequel to the story, and [[PrincessesRule when the princess rules the kingdom much like a queen would, and is only princess in title]]. Good queens don't need to be listed. They are simply TheHighQueen.



The idea that [[UnfortunateImplications "only a fool would want to be ruled by a woman"]] played heavily into the lives of real life queens in history -- even if their rule might have been decent or competent, many queens tended to be viewed with suspicion or contempt by their male underlings. This is particularly true [[DoubleStandard if the queen's manners and sexual habits were similar to those of powerful]] ''[[DoubleStandard men]]''. Another reason was that very often, thanks to AltarDiplomacy, queens were foreigners to the countries of which they became queens, and therefore became victim to xenophobic prejudices, ''especially'' if there arose a conflict of interests or even a shooting war between the queen's native and adopted countries.
12th Feb '17 7:32:49 PM Theriocephalus
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** In the Moondreamers segment the main villain was the Queen of the Realm of Nightmares and the rightful owner and her brother, was as cruel as she was, so it was less a case of sex and more a case of an evil family ruling an evil place.

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** In the Moondreamers segment segment, the main villain was the Queen of the Realm of Nightmares and Nightmares. That said, the rightful owner ruler and her brother, brother was as cruel as she was, so it was less a case of sex and more a case of an evil family ruling an evil place.
8th Feb '17 5:24:43 PM Eievie
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While kings and princes can be good or evil and princesses are [[AlwaysLawfulGood always good]], queens tend to be the royalty version of AlwaysChaoticEvil. Restrained by a competent king, this usually doesn't show, but once a queen is in charge, things get nasty. Either the king is missing or died in an accident (the queen might have [[BlackWidow helped things along herself]]), or he's easily manipulated for some reason. Note that there are good queens in fiction, [[MissingMom but they normally don't stay around for very long, or at all.]] And this trope comes into play whether they are ruling in their own right or as regents for [[AChildShallLeadThem the under-age king]]. (The latter group tends to fall under MyBelovedSmother, as well.)

Averted pretty much every time the [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses lovely princess]] becomes queen mid or end-story, or when the queen was a princess in a prequel to the story, and [[PrincessesRule when the princess rules the kingdom much like a queen would, and is only princess in title]]. Good queens don't need to be listed. They are simply TheHighQueen.

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While kings and princes can be good or evil ''or'' evil, and princesses are [[AlwaysLawfulGood always good]], queens tend to be the royalty version of AlwaysChaoticEvil. Restrained by a competent king, this usually doesn't show, but once a queen is in charge, ''in charge'', things get nasty. Either the king is missing or died in an accident (the accident--the queen might have [[BlackWidow helped things along herself]]), or herself]]--or he's easily manipulated for some reason. Note that there are ''are'' good queens in fiction, [[MissingMom but they normally don't stay around for very long, or at all.]] all]]. And this trope comes into play whether they are ruling in their own right or as regents for [[AChildShallLeadThem the under-age king]]. (The latter group tends to fall under MyBelovedSmother, as well.)

Queens who became queen because their late father the king had no sons are ''usually'' exempt from this trope, but virtue of being the [[RightfulKingReturns "rightful heir"]]. Meanwhile, queens who become virtue by marrying kings and [[MotherMakesYouKing getting their sons on the throne]] are ''very'' likely to fall under this trope. Averted pretty much every time the [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses lovely princess]] becomes queen mid or end-story, or when the queen was a princess in a prequel to the story, and [[PrincessesRule when the princess rules the kingdom much like a queen would, and is only princess in title]]. Good queens don't need to be listed. They are simply TheHighQueen.



The idea that [[UnfortunateImplications "only a fool would want to be ruled by a woman"]] played heavily into the lives of real life queens in history -- even if their rule might have been decent or competent, many queens tended to be viewed with suspicion or contempt by their male underlings. [[DoubleStandard This is particularly true if the queen's manners and sexual habits were similar to those of powerful]] ''[[DoubleStandard men]]''. Another reason was that very often queens were foreigners to the countries of which they became queens (through marriage) and therefore became victim to xenophobic prejudices, especially if there arose a conflict of interests or even a shooting war between the queen's native and adopted countries.

In terms of the ranks of AuthorityTropes, the tropes that are equal are TheHighQueen (her SisterTrope and GoodCounterpart), TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask, SheIsTheKing, TheGoodKing and PresidentEvil. The next steps down are TheEvilPrince, PrinceCharming, PrinceCharmless, WarriorPrince, PrincelyYoungMan, TheWisePrince, and all PrincessTropes. The next step up is TheEmperor.

Also compare TheCaligula.

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The idea that [[UnfortunateImplications "only a fool would want to be ruled by a woman"]] played heavily into the lives of real life queens in history -- even if their rule might have been decent or competent, many queens tended to be viewed with suspicion or contempt by their male underlings. [[DoubleStandard This is particularly true [[DoubleStandard if the queen's manners and sexual habits were similar to those of powerful]] ''[[DoubleStandard men]]''. Another reason was that very often often, thanks to AltarDiplomacy, queens were foreigners to the countries of which they became queens (through marriage) queens, and therefore became victim to xenophobic prejudices, especially ''especially'' if there arose a conflict of interests or even a shooting war between the queen's native and adopted countries.

In terms of the ranks of AuthorityTropes, the tropes that are equal are TheHighQueen (her SisterTrope and GoodCounterpart), TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask, SheIsTheKing, TheGoodKing and PresidentEvil. The next steps down are TheEvilPrince, PrinceCharming, PrinceCharmless, WarriorPrince, PrincelyYoungMan, TheWisePrince, and all PrincessTropes. The next step up is TheEmperor.

TheEmperor. Also compare TheCaligula.






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8th Feb '17 4:37:30 PM Eievie
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* In the Franchise/StarTrekNovelVerse, the Ruling Queen, T'Rehu - Romulus' first and only dictator. The trope is perhaps particularly appropriate here, because while it's never made explicit, there is the possible implied suggestion that Romulans fear single female rulers more than male ones - simply because of T'Rehu. Both sexes serve in government and in the senate, in more or less equal numbers, yet interestingly the praetor is usually male. Possibly female senators find it harder to ascend to the position due to a bias connected with this trope. This is likely only subconscious - there are no actual legal restrictions and we do see some female praetors, but the disparity is interesting in a culture that otherwise demonstrates equivalence between genders at all levels of government. See in particular ''Literature/StarTrekVulcansSoul''.

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* In the Franchise/StarTrekNovelVerse, the Ruling Queen, T'Rehu - -- Romulus' first and only dictator. The trope is perhaps particularly appropriate here, because while it's never made explicit, there is the possible implied suggestion that Romulans fear single female rulers more than male ones - -- simply because of T'Rehu. Both sexes serve in government and in the senate, in more or less equal numbers, yet interestingly the praetor is usually male. Possibly female senators find it harder to ascend to the position due to a bias connected with this trope. This is likely only subconscious - -- there are no actual legal restrictions and we do see some female praetors, but the disparity is interesting in a culture that otherwise demonstrates equivalence between genders at all levels of government. See in particular ''Literature/StarTrekVulcansSoul''.



* Bal-Sagoth worked this into musical form in their song "To Dethrone the Witch-Queen of Mytos K'unn (The Legend of the Battle of Blackhelm Vale)" on their album ''Starfire Burning Upon the Ice-Veiled Throne of Ultima Thule''. In brief, a [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin witch queen]] of a powerful empire sends her army of questionable humanity to invade her neighbors, until said army is met in battle by heroic barbarians in the titular battle. Yes, this is all described in lyrical detail - and [[AllThereInTheManual further elaborated on in the lyric book itself]].

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* Bal-Sagoth worked this into musical form in their song "To Dethrone the Witch-Queen of Mytos K'unn (The Legend of the Battle of Blackhelm Vale)" on their album ''Starfire Burning Upon the Ice-Veiled Throne of Ultima Thule''. In brief, a [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin witch queen]] of a powerful empire sends her army of questionable humanity to invade her neighbors, until said army is met in battle by heroic barbarians in the titular battle. Yes, this is all described in lyrical detail - -- and [[AllThereInTheManual further elaborated on in the lyric book itself]].



* Queen Protea of Granorg in ''VideoGame/RadiantHistoria'' bears a more-than-passing resemblance to Empress Theodora from ''VideoGame/SkiesOfArcadia'', right down to having an heir-apparent who futilely resists her greed, egomania and expansionist ambitions. In her very-first appearance, she goes on a lengthy rant about how living in outrageous opulence while the people starve is perfectly okay, since she's such an amazing individual that her mere ''presence'' imbues the life of the 'common rabble' with a purpose - they should be ''happy'' that they get to toil in poverty for her leisure. If nothing else, she does a great job of setting herself up as [[SmugSnake someone you]] ''[[SmugSnake REALLY]]'' [[SmugSnake want to slap]].

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* Queen Protea of Granorg in ''VideoGame/RadiantHistoria'' bears a more-than-passing resemblance to Empress Theodora from ''VideoGame/SkiesOfArcadia'', right down to having an heir-apparent who futilely resists her greed, egomania and expansionist ambitions. In her very-first appearance, she goes on a lengthy rant about how living in outrageous opulence while the people starve is perfectly okay, since she's such an amazing individual that her mere ''presence'' imbues the life of the 'common rabble' with a purpose - -- they should be ''happy'' that they get to toil in poverty for her leisure. If nothing else, she does a great job of setting herself up as [[SmugSnake someone you]] ''[[SmugSnake REALLY]]'' [[SmugSnake want to slap]].



** Lucrezia could probably be nominated for this role as well - she was married to THE Heterodyne, and even better a ''beloved'' Heterodyne (instead of the usual 'feared') -- but outside of popular stories told by the public, she [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20110316 was not well thought of, particularly by the staff]]. She also was [[MadScientistsBeautifulDaughter The Mad Scientist's Beautiful Daughter]] and had her own powerful Sparky gifts, although the details on those are still fuzzy on the reader's end yet.

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** Lucrezia could probably be nominated for this role as well - -- she was married to THE Heterodyne, and even better a ''beloved'' Heterodyne (instead of the usual 'feared') -- but outside of popular stories told by the public, she [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20110316 was not well thought of, particularly by the staff]]. She also was [[MadScientistsBeautifulDaughter The Mad Scientist's Beautiful Daughter]] and had her own powerful Sparky gifts, although the details on those are still fuzzy on the reader's end yet.



* ''WesternAnimation/DuckDodgers'' Tyrahnee - at least in name. (It's neither clear if she has factual power nor if she did anything evil.)

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* ''WesternAnimation/DuckDodgers'' Tyrahnee - -- at least in name. (It's neither clear if she has factual power nor if she did anything evil.)



* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranavalona_I Ranavalona I]] of Madagascar qualifies - a staunch defender of indignenous Malagasi beliefs, she made conversion to Christianity by her subjects punishable by death, and once executed 15 local church leaders by dangling them from thin rope over a 150-foot deep ravine.

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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranavalona_I Ranavalona I]] of Madagascar qualifies - -- a staunch defender of indignenous Malagasi beliefs, she made conversion to Christianity by her subjects punishable by death, and once executed 15 local church leaders by dangling them from thin rope over a 150-foot deep ravine.



* Isabella of France, known as the [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast She-Wolf of France]], was a mix of this and a BadassPrincess. Living for years as a pious and dutiful queen consort to [[AmbiguouslyGay Edward II of England]], she finally got fed up with his constant promotion of his favorites and his general incompetency. She left the country, gathered her own troops and [[GoodAdulteryBadAdultery her own lover, Roger Mortimer,]] and invaded England. She quickly had her opponents murdered - one had his head brought to her - and then [[MurderTheHypotenuse brutally executed her husband's favorite Hugh Despenser.]] She then deposed her husband and placed her son, Edward III, on the throne and acted as regent. To round out the saga, she then had her husband secretly killed, in a [[CruelAndUnusualDeath legendarily horrific manner.]]

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* Isabella of France, known as the [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast She-Wolf of France]], was a mix of this and a BadassPrincess. Living for years as a pious and dutiful queen consort to [[AmbiguouslyGay Edward II of England]], she finally got fed up with his constant promotion of his favorites and his general incompetency. She left the country, gathered her own troops and [[GoodAdulteryBadAdultery her own lover, Roger Mortimer,]] and invaded England. She quickly had her opponents murdered - one murdered--one had his head brought to her - and her--and then [[MurderTheHypotenuse brutally executed her husband's favorite Hugh Despenser.]] She then deposed her husband and placed her son, Edward III, on the throne and acted as regent. To round out the saga, she then had her husband secretly killed, in a [[CruelAndUnusualDeath legendarily horrific manner.]]
8th Feb '17 4:34:45 PM Eievie
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* The ''WebVideo/MyLittlePonyTheMentallyAdvancedSeries'' version of Celestia is pretty much the same as the above, except possibly even ''more'' feared, cruel, and ruthless and [[BadassBaritone with a by far more intimidating voice.]] Best seen with her treatment of her "faithful student" Twilight who has grown up fearing her to the point that the thought of failing her, causes the normally level headed Twilight to mental break
---> '''Twilight:'''(while having an emotional break down): Then she tore out all of Mrs. Buzzie's stuffing and stuffed her with sliced bread! And said, "I guess you owe me." Then told me to right a three hundred page paper on what that meant and '''I DIDN'T KNOW!!!''' (sobbing) Does anyone have any whisky.. or maybe some paint thinner.


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* ''WebAnimation/MyLittlePonyMeets'' pokes fun at this by revealing that Princess Celestia is ''encouraging this mentality'' for unstated reasons. After Twilight and others learn that not all queens are evil after [[Disney/Frozen meeting Elsa]], Twilight wonders why Celestia would tell her all queens are evil out loud. Cut to Celestia looking ominously over them through a telescope.
18th Jan '17 4:37:32 PM gb00393
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* Cersei in ''Series/GameOfThrones'' is much like her book version, and has only gotten worse now that the [[OvertookTheManga series overtook the books]]: [[spoiler: she used wildfire to blow up the Sept of Baelor while the High Sparrow, her uncle, her cousin, and her in-laws were inside to avoid being held accountable for her previous crimes. This caused massive amounts of damage to King's Landing. She's then rather callous when her last remaining child kills himself because of this. The season ends with her being crowned sole Queen of Westeros.]] Keep in mind her brother killed a previous king because he merely ''threatened'' to do this, and he's most certainly ''not'' happy that his sister has done this.

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Cersei in ''Series/GameOfThrones'' is much like her book version, version in that she shows a snobbish disdain and a lack of consideration for the common people, and has only gotten worse now that the [[OvertookTheManga series overtook the books]]: [[spoiler: she used wildfire to blow up the Sept of Baelor while the High Sparrow, her uncle, her cousin, and her in-laws were inside to avoid being held accountable for her previous crimes. This caused massive amounts of damage to King's Landing. She's then rather callous when her last remaining child kills himself because of this. The season ends with her being crowned sole Queen of Westeros.]] Keep in mind her brother killed a previous king because he merely ''threatened'' to do this, and he's most certainly ''not'' happy that his sister has done this.this.
** Lysa Arryn is the paranoid and neurotic Lady of the Vale.
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