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26th May '17 9:32:04 PM jtierney50
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* The Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, being an extremely large franchise known for making not-well-known-characters into the stars of multi million dollar, blockbuster films, is constantly plagued by this - especially because it makes good clickbait. Creator/NathanFillion will cameo as Ant-Man in Film/TheAvengers! [[note]]He didn't, but did cameo as ... a blue guy in the first ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy''[[/note]] Adam Warlock will be in Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2! [[spoiler:He was mentioned, but not shown, in the stinger; something the rumor mills would not have predicted]] Phil Coulson will return in Film/IronMan3/Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier/Film/AgeOfUltron/Film/AntMan/Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar! [[note]]He hasn't.[[/note]] The Series/AgentsOfShield and Series/TheDefenders2017 will be in Infinity War / Kevin Feige has said the TV and Netflix characters aren't ever coming back to the movies! [[note]]The former has yet to be confirmed or denied, and Feige has stated that he's doing as much as he can to get the TV and Netflix characters back into the movies.[[/note]] And so on.


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* A common rumor is that Trent Reznor of Music/NineInchNails reportedly claimed that Music/JohnnyCash's cover of "Hurt" is either "the perfect cover" or "better than the original". Neither is true, as he said that listening to Cash's cover was like he had lost his girlfriend, because it wasn't his anymore. While this may suggest that he thinks Cash's version is superior, he goes on to clarify that the two versions are "different - but every bit as pure".
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20th May '17 12:33:03 AM DarkHunter
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** After ''VideoGame/DarkSouls1'' came out, ThatOneBoss The Bed of Chaos was so poorly-received that it was said that Miyazaki had publicly apologised for it being so bad. He actually made no such apology.

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** After ''VideoGame/DarkSouls1'' came out, ThatOneBoss The Bed of Chaos was so poorly-received that it was said that Miyazaki had publicly apologised for it being so bad. He actually made no such apology. The closest thing to such a statement is FROM Software saying that they felt that the Lost Izalith area (which contains the Bed of Chaos) was not what it should have been and that they wanted to do more with it, but they'd run out of time.
15th May '17 5:58:53 PM Ninja857142
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** Another common misconception is that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for homosexuality (hence the word "sodomy"), when it in fact it was for their hostility to outsiders; the only reason their homosexuality was even mentioned was as a descriptor for an ''attempted rape''.
*** Jude 7 ''does'' state, to be fair, that the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah were given to "all kinds of sexual perversion". However, homosexuality is not singled out as such even here.
14th May '17 7:15:15 PM DragonBallZ
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* Since EveryoneIsSatanInHell, UsefulNotes/CharlesDarwin gets this a lot. Oftentimes, things that Häckel or Huxley said are attributed to Darwin. Huxley being especially notable, having earned the name "Darwin's Bulldog" vociferously defending evolution, because Darwin was too shy and too afraid to defend his theory himself. The big one is that Darwin didn't use the word "evolution" (a misnomer that has caused problems) to refer to the process he explained, though "evolved" is the last word of his book. He called it "descent with modification". Social Darwinism even has his name tacked on it, even though he was dismayed by his theories being misused in social context, in extremely unscientific ways. Even today people from both sides talk about eugenics like Darwin had anything to do with the practice, which he in fact opposed. When the idea of intentional "improvement" of humanity through selective breeding was first brought up (the term eugenics had yet to be coined), Darwin referred to it as "utopian" (as in impractical or unrealistic). It's also a concept that far predates his time, as it was advocated by Plato in ''Literature/TheRepublic'' based on ancient Sparta's practice for instance. Selective breeding of plants and animals is old as agriculture.

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* Since EveryoneIsSatanInHell, UsefulNotes/CharlesDarwin gets this a lot. Oftentimes, things that Häckel or Huxley said are attributed to Darwin. Huxley being especially notable, having earned the name "Darwin's Bulldog" vociferously defending evolution, because Darwin was too shy and too afraid to defend his theory himself. The big one is that Darwin didn't use the word "evolution" (a misnomer that has caused problems) to refer to the process he explained, though "evolved" is the last word of his book. He called it "descent with modification". Social Darwinism even has his name tacked on it, even though he was dismayed by his theories being misused in social context, in extremely unscientific ways. Even today people from both sides talk about eugenics like Darwin had anything to do with the practice, which he in fact opposed. When the idea of intentional "improvement" of humanity through selective breeding was first brought up (the term eugenics had yet to be coined), Darwin referred to it as "utopian" (as in impractical or unrealistic). It's also a concept that far predates his time, as it was advocated by Plato in ''Literature/TheRepublic'' based on ancient Sparta's practice for instance. Selective breeding of plants and animals is as old as agriculture.
8th May '17 9:25:51 AM TheBigBopper
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** Many fans of both ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' and ''VideoGame/DemonsSouls/VideoGame/DarkSouls'' looked at a certain interview where he mentioned having ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' on his shelf and blew it out of proportion, ignoring the fact that in the same interview he mostly attributes inspiration to his collection of Western {{Tabletop RPG}}s and FantasyLiterature, significantly basing the ''Souls'' series on the earlier Creator/FromSoftware game series ''VideoGame/KingsField'' and the ''Literature/FightingFantasy'' game books. He [[http://skullknight.net/images/darksouls_berserk1.jpg does say]] in the interview that when Art Designer Masanori Waragai showed him his Catarina armor design, he felt reminded of Bazuso from ''Berserk'' and thought that old design was appropriate for Siegmeyer's character concept, but that's it. Despite {{Fanon}} being that so many characters, monsters, settings, and props are obvious ''Berserk'' references, the only one Miyazaki has actually talked about is more a case of coincidence than inspiration.

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** Many fans Fans of both ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' and ''VideoGame/DemonsSouls/VideoGame/DarkSouls'' looked at a certain interview where he mentioned having the ''Souls'' games often talk about ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' being a primary, or even ''the'' inspiration of ''Souls'' based on his shelf and blew it out of proportion, ignoring the fact an interview where Miyazaki acknowledged that he is a ''Berserk'' reader, but that's probably a big exaggeration. For example, after mentioning ''Berserk'' in the same that interview he mostly attributes most of his inspiration for the ''Souls'' games to his collection of Western {{Tabletop RPG}}s and FantasyLiterature, significantly basing the ''Souls'' series on as well as the earlier Creator/FromSoftware game series ''VideoGame/KingsField'' and the ''Literature/FightingFantasy'' game books. He [[http://skullknight.net/images/darksouls_berserk1.jpg does say]] in the same interview that when Art Designer Masanori Waragai showed him his Catarina armor design, he felt reminded of Bazuso from ''Berserk'' and thought that old design was appropriate for Siegmeyer's character concept, but that's it. Despite {{Fanon}} being this is one of the few parallels or {{Shout Out}}s he has actually acknowleded. It wouldn't be inaccurate to say that so many characters, monsters, settings, and props are obvious ''Berserk'' references, has had ''some'' influence on the only one Miyazaki has actually talked about is more a case games, such as when he acknowledged that the greatsword artes and playstyle in Dark Souls 3 were inspired by Guts, but {{fanon}} tends to blow it out of coincidence than inspiration.proportion and treat ''Dark Souls'' as if it were practically ''Berserk'' with the serial numbers filed off.
2nd May '17 9:28:13 PM mouschilight
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** Kishimoto's involvement with the production of the movie ''Anime/NarutoTheMovieRoadToNinja'' which is heavily loaded with Naruto/Sakura ShipTeasing, made a lot of their shippers to claim that "The movie is Kishi's baby written by him, that means he supports the ship!"; in reality, Kishimoto was only involved with the characters' designs and story draft, while the actual script of the movie was done by Yuka Miyata, who was infamous for her Naruto/Sakura-teasing [[WriterOnBoard scene additions]] to the anime {{filler}} that didn't exist in the manga (although she stopped doing this after the manga ended, for [[ShipSinking obvious reasons]]).

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** Kishimoto's involvement with the production of the movie ''Anime/NarutoTheMovieRoadToNinja'' which is heavily loaded with Naruto/Sakura ShipTeasing, made a lot of their shippers to claim that "The movie is Kishi's baby written by him, that means he supports the ship!"; in reality, Kishimoto was only involved with the characters' designs and story draft, while the actual script of the movie was done by Yuka Miyata, who was infamous for her Naruto/Sakura-teasing [[WriterOnBoard scene additions]] to the anime {{filler}} that didn't exist in the manga (although she stopped doing this after the manga ended, ended and the anime continued to drag on, for [[ShipSinking obvious reasons]]).
2nd May '17 9:24:51 PM mouschilight
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** MasashiKishimoto is often mentioned as having said that Sasuke is his favorite character, particularly by people who think he's a CreatorsPet with [[SpotlightStealingSquad too much screentime]]. He actually said Sasuke is his favorite character... ''to draw''.

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** MasashiKishimoto Creator/MasashiKishimoto is often mentioned as having said that Sasuke is his favorite character, particularly by people who think he's a CreatorsPet with [[SpotlightStealingSquad too much screentime]]. He actually said Sasuke is his favorite character... ''to draw''.



Compared to all of this, the truth is ridiculously banal; the OfficialCouple got together in the usual way that fictional couples do -- because the author decided it would be great if they were to fall in love, so they did. No reservations, no cynical "yeah, but"s about it. Some of the "true" alternate explanations were just fabricated whole-cloth; others were "inspired" by actual WordOfGod that had little resemblence to them, and instead described considerations that are much less scandalous and are par-for-the-course for the occasion. e.g. "if this character doesn't get with this other character her entire arc becomes kind of pointless", or "the decision to go this way was made long ago anyway, I toyed with other possibilities for a while [[RedHerring just to]] [[FauxShadow throw]] [[TrollingCreator fans off]]".
** Kishimoto's close involvement with the production of the movie ''Anime/NarutoTheMovieRoadToNinja'' which is heavily loaded with Naruto/Sakura ShipTeasing, made a lot of their shippers to claim that "The movie is Kishi's baby written by him, that means he supports the ship!"; in reality Kishimoto was only involved with the characters' designs and story draft, while the actual script of the movie was done by Yuka Miyata, who's infamous for her Naruto/Sakura-teasing [[WriterOnBoard scene]] [[ArmedWithCanon additions]] to the anime {{filler}}.
** When the series was reaching its end, quite a few fans claimed that Kishimoto had confirmed that in the ending Naruto would have a son named Shinachiku, based on an interview made during the promotion of the aforementioned ''Road To Ninja'' movie; in reality during the interview Kishimoto when asked if Naruto would have a child how would he call him, he answered that ''probably'' Shinachiku[[note]]He was jokingly considering following the EdibleThemeNaming trend from [=RtN=] of Naruto/Menma/Shinachiku[[/note]]. The real names for Naruto's children turned out to be Boruto and Himawari.
** A few Naruto/Sakura shippers claimed that Kishimoto had confirmed in an interview that Naruto and Sakura's relationship was directly based upon his and his wife's, in reality during the [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2015-10-14/masashi-kishimoto-at-new-york-comic-con/.94186 interview]] when asked if his relationship was more similar to Naruto/Hinata than Sasuke/Sakura, he answers "it might not actually be like either", then when comparing Hinata to his wife he describes the latter as "strong", then it's ''the interviewer'' who suggests that Sakura is more similar to Kishimoto's wife personality-wise (Naruto's relationship with Sakura is not even mentioned). And for extra confusion, he did at one point say a couple was based on his relationship with his wife, however he was referring to two posthumous characters, namely Naruto's parents.

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Compared to all of this, the truth is ridiculously banal; the OfficialCouple got together in the usual way that fictional couples do -- because the author decided decided, from the early stages of the manga, that it would be great if they were to fall in love, so they did. No reservations, no cynical "yeah, but"s about it. Some of the "true" alternate explanations were just fabricated whole-cloth; others were "inspired" by actual WordOfGod that had little resemblence to them, and instead described considerations that are much less scandalous and are par-for-the-course for the occasion. e.g. "if this character doesn't get with this other character her entire arc becomes kind of pointless", or "the decision to go this way was made long ago anyway, I toyed with other possibilities for a while [[RedHerring just to]] [[FauxShadow throw]] [[TrollingCreator throw fans off]]".
** Kishimoto's close involvement with the production of the movie ''Anime/NarutoTheMovieRoadToNinja'' which is heavily loaded with Naruto/Sakura ShipTeasing, made a lot of their shippers to claim that "The movie is Kishi's baby written by him, that means he supports the ship!"; in reality reality, Kishimoto was only involved with the characters' designs and story draft, while the actual script of the movie was done by Yuka Miyata, who's who was infamous for her Naruto/Sakura-teasing [[WriterOnBoard scene]] [[ArmedWithCanon scene additions]] to the anime {{filler}}.
{{filler}} that didn't exist in the manga (although she stopped doing this after the manga ended, for [[ShipSinking obvious reasons]]).
** When the series was reaching its end, quite a few fans claimed that Kishimoto had confirmed that in the ending Naruto would have a son named Shinachiku, based on an interview made during the promotion of the aforementioned ''Road To Ninja'' movie; in reality during the interview Kishimoto when asked if Naruto would have a child how would he call him, he ''jokingly'' answered that ''probably'' Shinachiku[[note]]He was jokingly considering following the EdibleThemeNaming trend from [=RtN=] of Naruto/Menma/Shinachiku[[/note]]. Shinachiku. The real names for Naruto's children turned out to be Boruto [[spoiler:Boruto and Himawari.
Himawari]].
** A few Naruto/Sakura of their shippers claimed that Kishimoto had confirmed in an interview that Naruto and Sakura's relationship was directly based upon his and his wife's, wife's; in reality during the [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2015-10-14/masashi-kishimoto-at-new-york-comic-con/.94186 interview]] when asked if his relationship was more similar to Naruto/Hinata than Sasuke/Sakura, he answers "it might not actually be like either", then when comparing Hinata to his wife he describes the latter as "strong", then it's ''the interviewer'' who suggests that Sakura is could be more similar to Kishimoto's Kishi's wife personality-wise (Naruto's relationship and dynamics with Sakura is were not even mentioned). And for extra confusion, he did at one point say a couple was based on his relationship with his wife, however he was referring to two posthumous characters, namely Naruto's parents.mentioned).
1st May '17 10:33:16 PM frogpatrol
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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'' is notorious for this sort of thing, though it can get complex because often "fan-created canon" or "fanon" often overlaps with the mistaken belief that "God" originally said something-or-other. Just one example occurred with ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' which raised the ire of some fans for establishing a Vulcan serving with Starfleet, when the belief was Spock was the first. Many claims were made that the series violated established on-screen canon in this regard ... until members of one of the Star Trek fan forums actually went back through all the televised episodes and movies and could find no such reference to Spock being the first Vulcan in Starfleet. He was said to be the first Vulcan to attend Starfleet ''Academy'', however, which is something ''Enterprise's'' T'Pol was never claimed to have done.
** One could write a book on all the various non-canon ideas that ''StarTrek'' fans routinely believe are canon, but one of the least talked about is a belief among fans that humans of the 24th Century have learned how to "always get along" and never fight with each other. Because of this, they tend to bash ''Deep Space Nine'' and ''Voyager'', or even declare them not canon, because of the very concept of the Maquis, and other instances of humans fighting with humans. They cling to this even though ''The Next Generation'' never shied away from human-vs-human conflict. What Gene Roddenberry actually said was that humans have learned to rise above "petty bickering", but even he understood that there would always be legitimate issues that would cause conflict between humans.

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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'' is notorious for this sort of thing, though it can get complex because often "fan-created canon" or "fanon" often overlaps with the mistaken belief that "God" originally said something-or-other. Just one example occurred with ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' which raised the ire of some fans for establishing a Vulcan serving with Starfleet, when the belief was Spock was the first. Many claims were made that the series violated established on-screen canon in this regard ...regard... until members of one of the Star Trek fan forums actually went back through all the televised episodes and movies and could find no such reference to Spock being the first Vulcan in Starfleet. He was said to be the first Vulcan to attend Starfleet ''Academy'', however, which is something ''Enterprise's'' T'Pol was never claimed to have done.
** One could write a book on all the various non-canon ideas that ''StarTrek'' fans routinely believe are canon, but one of the least talked about is a belief among fans that humans of the 24th Century have learned how to "always get along" and never fight with each other. Because of this, they tend to bash ''Deep Space Nine'' and ''Voyager'', or even declare them not canon, because of the very concept of the Maquis, and other instances of humans fighting with humans. They cling to this even though ''The Next Generation'' never shied away from human-vs-human conflict. What Gene Roddenberry Creator/GeneRoddenberry actually said was that humans have learned to rise above "petty bickering", but even he understood that there would always be legitimate issues that would cause conflict between humans.humans.



* ''L'Osservatore Romano''--a perpetual source. Just because the newspaper of Vatican City pans ''{{Film/Avatar}}'' does not mean that ''the Pope'' condemns it. It's just a newspaper.

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* ''L'Osservatore Romano''--a Romano''-- a perpetual source. Just because the newspaper of Vatican City pans ''{{Film/Avatar}}'' does not mean that ''the Pope'' condemns it. It's just a newspaper.
1st May '17 10:27:21 PM frogpatrol
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* A common myth is that, as a toddler, Creator/JRRTolkien, known for writing ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' and ''Literature/TheHobbit'', was bitten by a poisonous spider in South Africa, causing him to develop a phobia for them. Therefore many of his works feature giant, malevolent arachnids, including the spiders of Mirkwood, Shelob, and Ungoliant. However, [[http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Spiders#Inspiration this]] article proves the incident was no inspiration whatsoever to the spiders. In fact, Tolkien admitted to having no dislike for spiders at all, even rescuing them if they fell into the bath.

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* A common myth is that, as a toddler, Creator/JRRTolkien, known for writing ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' and ''Literature/TheHobbit'', was bitten by a poisonous spider in South Africa, causing him to develop a phobia for about them. Therefore many of his works feature giant, malevolent arachnids, including the spiders of Mirkwood, Shelob, and Ungoliant. However, [[http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Spiders#Inspiration this]] article proves the incident was no inspiration whatsoever to the spiders. In fact, Tolkien admitted to having no dislike for spiders at all, all and even rescuing rescued them if they fell into the bath.
1st May '17 10:23:44 PM frogpatrol
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* This caused a stir when Creator/HalleBerry's Wikipedia page was edited with a quote from her that said "this new album will show people that [she] can do more than act". Because of this, a number of news websites reported that Berry was branching out into music, causing Berry herself to report that she had no plans to do so.

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* This caused a stir when Creator/HalleBerry's Wikipedia page was edited with a quote from her that said "this new album will show people that [she] can do more than act". Because of this, a A number of news websites then reported that Berry was branching out into music, causing which caused Berry herself to report that she had no plans to do so.
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