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* {{Anvilicious}}: Phil Collins' attempts at setting himself up as an artist with a social conscience were less than impressive. "Tell Me Why" was especially embarassing, while "Land Of Confusion" was saved by its sheer energy and by the popular SpittingImage video.
** Actually, Mike Rutherford wrote the lyrics to "Land Of Confusion".

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Phil Collins' attempts at setting himself up as an artist with a social conscience were less than impressive. impressive - "Tell Me Why" was especially embarassing, while embarassing. Rutherford didn't fare much better - "Land Of Confusion" was only saved by its sheer energy and by the popular SpittingImage video.
** Actually, Mike Rutherford wrote the lyrics to "Land Of Confusion".
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* OnlySaneMan: Out of all the front men Ray Wilson was this, Peter Gabriel was well... see {{Cloudcuckoolander}})... and Phil Collins was on a mission to ruin Genesis when singing live.
** [[YourMileageMayVary Not everyone agrees with the above assessment of Phil Collins and his contribution to the band]]. Certainly it would have been foolish for him to be "on a mission to ruin" his main bread and butter.
*** OK, the way how live, he just randomly stutters and swears for no reason [[SarcasmMode]] Yeah, totally not ruinin' it, governor.
***** See: BrokenBase above.
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this part sounds so contentious... I think the article'll be better without it.

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** "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccs2rt0oSzQ&ob=av2n Mama]]". Mechanical drum machine? Check. Ominous music? Check. Big drumming finale, like in "In The Air Tonight"? Check. Phil almost doing a MetalScream? Check. Phil's EvilLaugh? Check. StalkerWithACrush [[ClingyJealousGirl Clingy Jealous Guy]] lyrics that would make [[ThePolice Sting]] proud? Check. Is there a HONF bingo?

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* GuiltyPleasures: The albums ''Invisible Touch'' and ''We Can't Dance'' are considered this by some fans. OrSoIHeard.
* HappilyMarried: Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks.
** Um, to their wives. Not [[HoYay to each other]].
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* GuiltyPleasures: The albums ''Invisible Touch'' and ''We Can't Dance'' are considered this by some fans. OrSoIHeard.
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* HappilyMarried: Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks.
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* CanonDiscontinuity: During/ever since [[PuttingTheBandBackTogether the 2006-2007 reunion tour]], even the band themselves pretend that ''Calling All Stations'' just [[CanonDiscontinuity never happened]]. ''From Gemesis To Revelation'' also qualifies.

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* CanonDiscontinuity: During/ever since [[PuttingTheBandBackTogether the 2006-2007 reunion tour]], even the band themselves pretend that ''Calling All Stations'' just [[CanonDiscontinuity never happened]]. ''From
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* [[strike:''From Genesis to Revelation'' 1969]] See DisContinuity and SoBadItsHorrible.

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* [[strike:''From Genesis to Revelation'' 1969]] See CanonDiscontinuity, DisContinuity and SoBadItsHorrible.
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* DesignStudentsOrgasm: Some of the early album art definitely qualifies.


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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness
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* EarWorm: Many of their songs, especially the Phil Collins-led era.
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** As the numbers indicate, the box set ''Genesis: 1970–1975'' doesn't include this album. Looks like it's been officially deleted from the canon.

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** As the numbers indicate, the box set ''Genesis: 1970–1975'' doesn't include this album. Looks like it's been [[CanonDiscontinuity officially deleted from the canon.canon]].
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* StableTimeLoop: the plot of "One For the Vine", from ''Wind and Wuthering''.


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** The "Twenty-Second Street" referenced in "In the Cage" is actually the location of a mental hospital in which Rael had previously been incarcerated ("where they got me by my neck and feet"). The line does not refer to a subway stop.
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* ThisIsSPARTA: "[[TheLambLiesDownOnBroadway I'M RAAAAAEL!!!!]]"
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* AllThereInTheManual: The story Gabriel wrote for the liner notes of ''TheLambLiesDownOnBroadway''. [[YourMileageMayVary Some people]] think that it only serves to [[MindScrewdriver confuser matters even further]].

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* AllThereInTheManual: The story Gabriel wrote for the liner notes of ''TheLambLiesDownOnBroadway''. [[YourMileageMayVary Some people]] think that it only serves to [[MindScrewdriver confuser confuse matters even further]].
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* AllThereInTheManual: The story Gabriel wrote for the liner notes of ''TheLambLiesDownOnBroadway''. [[YourMileageMayVary Some people]] think that it only serves to [[MindScrewdriver confuser matters even further]].
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* MindScrewdriver: The story that Gabriel wrote for the liner notes of ''TheLambLiesDownOnBroadway''.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: The video for "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtjqxZMqMTA I Can't Dance]]" had many of these, and the video for "Anything She Does" features BennyHill doing his usual shtick.
** "Jesus, He knows me" mixes an absolutely ''hilarious'' video with a vicious lampooning of televangelism.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: The video for "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtjqxZMqMTA com/watch?v=zb9UND65mto I Can't Dance]]" had many of these, and the video for "Anything She Does" features BennyHill doing his usual shtick.
** "Jesus, He knows me" mixes an absolutely ''hilarious'' video [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugZq9hiuCJo video]] with a vicious lampooning of televangelism.


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* VaudevilleHook: Almost. At the end of both the "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb9UND65mto I Can't Dance]]" and the "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugZq9hiuCJo Jesus He Knows Me]]" music videos, Mike and Tony come in from offscreen to drag [[LargeHam Phil]] away.
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* CargoCult: The primitive people that the protagonist of ''Wind And Wuthering'''s "One For The Vine" encounters mistake him for "God's Chosen One who's come to save us from all our oppressors/We shall be kings on this world", [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone with predictable results]]. See also: TomatoInTheMirror.

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* CargoCult: The primitive people that the protagonist of ''Wind And Wuthering'''s "One For The Vine" encounters mistake him for "God's "[[TheChosenOne God's Chosen One One]] who's come to save us from all our oppressors/We oppressors/[[{{Pride}} We shall be kings on this world", world]]", [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone with predictable results]]. See also: TomatoInTheMirror.
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'''For the video game console, see SegaGenesis. For the [[WebGames Web Game]], see ''[[GeNeSis Ge.Ne.Sis.]]'''''

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'''For the video game console, see SegaGenesis. For the [[WebGames Web Game]], see ''[[GeNeSis ''[[{{Ptitleecp7pmhz}} Ge.Ne.Sis.]]'''''
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'''For the video game console, see SegaGenesis. For the [[WebGames Web Game]], see ''[[GeNeSis Ge.Ne.Sis.]]''.'''

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'''For the video game console, see SegaGenesis.'''

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'''For the video game console, see SegaGenesis. For the [[WebGames Web Game]], see ''[[GeNeSis Ge.Ne.Sis.]]''.'''
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* ''Wind And Wuthering'' 1976

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* [[strike:''From Genesis To Revelation'' 1969]] See DisContinuity and SoBadItsHorrible.

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* ''Selling England By The Pound'' 1973

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* ''A Trick of The Tail'' 1976

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** Which is even funnier because [[OlderThanTheyThink the album predates Vader ...]]
*** No. ''Abacab'' [[DidNotDoTheResearch was released in 1981]]. The original ''StarWars'' [[YouFailHistoryForever came out in 1977]].
** Don't forget (from "SuppersReady") "Oooh, can't you feel arseholes ignite...". The actual lyric is of course "Can't you feel our souls ignite...".

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** Which is even funnier because [[OlderThanTheyThink the album predates Vader ...]]
*** No. ''Abacab'' [[DidNotDoTheResearch was released in 1981]]. The original ''StarWars'' [[YouFailHistoryForever came out in 1977]].
** Don't forget (from "SuppersReady")
From "SuppersReady": "Oooh, can't you feel arseholes ignite...". The actual lyric is of course "Can't you feel our souls ignite...".
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: in ''[[TheDocumentary Come Rain Or Shine]]'' (which is about [[PuttingTheBandBackTogether the 2006-2007 reunion tour]]), Phil Collins and Tony Banks hug upon Phil's arrival at their rehearsal space. Phil asks, "Have you been waiting [for me] long?" and Tony replies, "Only fifteen years."

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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: in ''[[TheDocumentary ''[[{{Documentary}} Come Rain Or Shine]]'' (which is about [[PuttingTheBandBackTogether the 2006-2007 reunion tour]]), Phil Collins and Tony Banks hug upon Phil's arrival at their rehearsal space. Phil asks, "Have you been waiting [for me] long?" and Tony replies, "Only fifteen years."

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* CanonDiscontinuity: During/ever since [[PuttingTheBandBackTogether the 2006-2007 reunion tour]], even the band themselves pretend that ''Calling All Stations'' just [[CanonDiscontinuity never happened]].

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* DisContinuity: [[YourMileageMayVary Depending upon who you ask]], the following people (either individually or in any combination) never left/joined the band: Anthony Phillips, John Mayhew, Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett, Phil Collins, and Ray Wilson. Also, no albums were ever recorded with/without some/any/all of these people.
** Similarly, the band's fanbase is split in half: Those who prefer their Peter Gabriel led albums and those who like Phil Collins-led records. What albums exist usually depend on which side you're on.
*** See: BrokenBase above.
** Many people, [[CanonDiscontinuity including the band themselves]] tend to pretend that the album ''Calling All Stations'' never happened. None of the songs from that album were performed on [[PuttingTheBandBackTogether the recent reunion tour]].
** Their first album also qualifies. Not only were Phil and Steve not on it, but the band does not own the rights to it, and it is distributed to the few who want to hear it by another company. Thus, most official discographies and catalogues make no mention of it. It's also pretty different from even their second album.


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* FanonDiscontinuity: [[YourMileageMayVary Depending upon who you ask]], the following people (either individually or in any combination) never left/joined the band: Anthony Phillips, John Mayhew, Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett, Phil Collins, and Ray Wilson. Also, no albums were ever recorded with/without some/any/all of these people.
** Similarly, the band's fanbase is split in half: Those who prefer their Peter Gabriel led albums and those who like Phil Collins-led records. What albums exist usually depend on which side you're on.
*** See: BrokenBase above.
** Many people, [[CanonDiscontinuity including the band themselves]] tend to pretend that the album ''Calling All Stations'' never happened. None of the songs from that album were performed on [[PuttingTheBandBackTogether the recent reunion tour]].
** Their first album also qualifies. Not only were Phil and Steve not on it, but the band does not own the rights to it, and it is distributed to the few who want to hear it by another company. Thus, most official discographies and catalogues make no mention of it. It's also pretty different from even their second album.
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** Also, "Dancing with the Moonlit Knight", "Dance On A Volcano", "Los Endos" and the ending sections of "The Musical Box", "SuppersReady" and "Cinema Show".

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** Also, "Dancing with the Moonlit Knight", "Dance On A Volcano", "Firth Of Fifth", "Los Endos" and the ending sections of "The Musical Box", "SuppersReady" and "Cinema Show".
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** Actually, Mike Rutherford wrote the lyrics to "Land Of Confusion". SoYeah...

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** Actually, Mike Rutherford wrote the lyrics to "Land Of Confusion". SoYeah...
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**Genesis were suggesting writing a concept album based on Antoine De Saint-Exupery's TheLittlePrince as a follow-up to ''Selling England''. Gabriel opted for an [[DarkerAndEdgier edgier]], more Americanized concept album instead (''The Lamb'').
**Casual considerations to replace Steve Hackett as guitarist in 1978 were rumored to include Jeff Beck, [[KingCrimson Robert Fripp]] and SteelyDan veteran Elliott Randall. It was later agreed to keep it a three-piece in the studio.
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*ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: ''Three Sides Live'' (although the CD is actually "1½ Sides Live"). Also, from "SuppersReady," "Apocalypse in 9/8"; it's apocalyptic in sound, and (even to a non-musician) it's very noticeably in 9/8.

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*ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: ''Three Sides Live'' (although Live'', but only in the US edition; the UK edition is entirely live. In any case, the US CD is actually "1½ Sides Live").Live". Also, from "SuppersReady," "Apocalypse in 9/8"; it's apocalyptic in sound, and (even to a non-musician) it's very noticeably in 9/8.

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* InTheStyleOf: In the 2007 interview on the DVD version of ''A Trick Of The Tail'', PhilCollins says that "The Squonk" is basically Genesis doing a Led Zeppelin song. "Vindaloo" by Fat Les is in the same kind of style as Genesis doing "Match of the Day".

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* InTheStyleOf: In the 2007 interview on the DVD version of ''A Trick Of The Tail'', PhilCollins says that "The Squonk" is basically Genesis doing a Led Zeppelin song. "Vindaloo" by Fat Les is in the same kind of style as Genesis doing "Match of the Day". "Driving the Last Spike" from ''We Can't Dance'' has some people wondering "what is this Gabriel-era song doing on their last-but-one album?".


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* TastesLikeDiabetes: For [[YourMileageMayVary some fans]], "Hold On My Heart" from ''We Can't Dance''.

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