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The fight begins as soon as our heroes reach the cave, but Monster X is so tough that he trounces Stacy and Grace without breaking a sweat. Clearly, we're in trouble. Only Mark can save the CityOfAdventure from the monster, and he proceeds to do so with a new technique he learned [[MostWritersAreMen while the girls we're busy getting fighting over their periods and/or boy of the week.]]

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The fight begins as soon as our heroes reach the cave, but Monster X is so tough that he trounces Stacy and Grace without breaking a sweat. Clearly, we're in trouble. Only Mark can save the CityOfAdventure from the monster, and he proceeds to do so with a new technique he learned [[MostWritersAreMen [[MostWritersAreMale while the girls we're busy getting fighting over their periods and/or boy of the week.]]



There wasn't any reason for Stacy and Grace to fail. Their PowerLevels are the same as the boys; maybe even greater, but for some reason (think [[doublestandard double standard]], they just can't seem to measure up when the chips are down.

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There wasn't any reason for Stacy and Grace to fail. Their PowerLevels are the same as the boys; maybe even greater, but for some reason (think [[doublestandard [[DoubleStandard double standard]], they just can't seem to measure up when the chips are down.



* '''Customary Incompetence:''' For instances where the failure of one gender is due to the way they're treated by members of the other gender. For instance, [[StayInTheKitchen male characters encouraging equally-capable female ones to stand back and let them handle it]], so that the males don't have to protect them. The women may reluctantly go along with the plan because it's expected, reducing their effectiveness regardless of any spells/techniques/special training they may otherwise have. Depending on how far towards its extreme this is taken, this one has been TruthInTelevision in many periods of history, as out right misogyny was considered the norm back then (and even now.

In all cases, one gender is made effectively useless throughout the course of the fiction, while the other is not. Could be considered a Sub Trope of DoubleStandard. Compare to GenderRestrictedAbility, FauxActionGirl and WomenAreWiser. Contrast with PositiveDiscrimination.

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* '''Customary Incompetence:''' For instances where the failure of one gender is due to the way they're treated by members of the other gender. For instance, [[StayInTheKitchen male characters encouraging berating equally-capable female ones to stand back and let them handle it]], so that the males don't have to protect them. The women may reluctantly go along with the plan because it's expected, reducing their effectiveness regardless of any spells/techniques/special training they may otherwise have. Depending on how far towards its extreme this is taken, this one has been TruthInTelevision in many periods of history, as out right misogyny was considered the norm back then (and even now.

In all cases, one gender is made effectively useless throughout the course of the fiction, while the other is not. Could be considered a Sub Trope of DoubleStandard. Compare to GenderRestrictedAbility, FauxActionGirl and WomenAreWiser.MostWritersAreMale. Contrast with PositiveDiscrimination.
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Of course, we don't think anything of it at first. Mark was lucky to have that new technique, even though the girls each have cool techniques as well (Usually relating to [[theheart their heart!]]! There's nothing suspicious about one lucky victory.

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Of course, we don't think anything of it at first. Mark was lucky to have that new technique, even though the girls each have cool techniques as well (Usually relating to [[theheart [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower their heart!]]! heart]]! There's nothing suspicious about one lucky victory.
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Of course, we don't think anything of it at first. Mark was lucky to have that new technique, even though the girls each have cool techniques as well (Usually relating to [[thepowerofheart their heart!]]! There's nothing suspicious about one lucky victory.

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Of course, we don't think anything of it at first. Mark was lucky to have that new technique, even though the girls each have cool techniques as well (Usually relating to [[thepowerofheart [[theheart their heart!]]! There's nothing suspicious about one lucky victory.
28th Dec '16 11:54:11 PM stickyheaders
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Bob, Jen and Griff are wandering through the woods in their quest to defeat Monster X and recover the MacGuffin of the week. All have great weapons, are hailed as seasoned combatants and are generally viewed as heroes. It looks like we may have [[BigDamnHeroes a fantastic fight on our hands.]]

The fight begins as soon as our heroes reach the cave, but Monster X is so tough that he trounces Bob and Griff without breaking a sweat. Clearly, we're in trouble. Only Jen can save the CityOfAdventure from the monster, and she proceeds to do so with a new technique she learned [[CurbStompBattle in record time.]]

Of course, we don't think anything of it at first. Jen was lucky to have that new technique, even though the boys each have cool techniques as well. There's nothing suspicious about one lucky victory.

Then, the next time the group enters a battle, they fight an even bigger monster from dimension Z alongside another group consisting of Mary, Lee and Amy.

When the dust clears, Mary, Amy and Jen are the only ones standing. Noticing something here?

There wasn't any reason for Bob, Griff and Lee to fail. Their PowerLevels are the same as the girls; maybe even greater, but for some reason, they just can't seem to measure up when the chips are down.

Whether he knows it or not, Bob and his pals have just been bitten by the Gender Incompetence bug; the tendency of one gender in a story/movie/show/game/etc to fail when the going gets tough even though there isn't much reason for it. It wasn't that only one gender could master the DangerousForbiddenTechnique. It wasn't that all the awesome superpowers belonged to the gender that saved the day. Just, for some reason, one sex seems to come out on top all the time. This can take a few forms.

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Bob, Jen Stacy, Mark and Griff Grace are wandering through the woods in their quest to defeat Monster X and recover the MacGuffin of the week. All have great weapons, are hailed as seasoned combatants and are generally viewed as heroes. It looks like we may have [[BigDamnHeroes a fantastic fight on our hands.]]

The fight begins as soon as our heroes reach the cave, but Monster X is so tough that he trounces Bob Stacy and Griff Grace without breaking a sweat. Clearly, we're in trouble. Only Jen Mark can save the CityOfAdventure from the monster, and she he proceeds to do so with a new technique she he learned [[CurbStompBattle in record time.[[MostWritersAreMen while the girls we're busy getting fighting over their periods and/or boy of the week.]]

Of course, we don't think anything of it at first. Jen Mark was lucky to have that new technique, even though the boys girls each have cool techniques as well. well (Usually relating to [[thepowerofheart their heart!]]! There's nothing suspicious about one lucky victory.

Then, the next time the group enters a battle, they fight an even bigger monster from dimension Z alongside another group consisting of Mary, Lee Mark and Amy.

Lee.

When the dust clears, Mary, Amy Lee and Jen Mark are the only ones standing. Noticing something here?

There wasn't any reason for Bob, Griff Stacy and Lee Grace to fail. Their PowerLevels are the same as the girls; boys; maybe even greater, but for some reason, reason (think [[doublestandard double standard]], they just can't seem to measure up when the chips are down.

Whether he she knows it or not, Bob Grace and his her pals have just been bitten by the Gender Incompetence bug; the tendency of one gender in a story/movie/show/game/etc to fail when the going gets tough even though there isn't much reason for it. It wasn't that only one gender could master the DangerousForbiddenTechnique. It wasn't that all the awesome superpowers belonged to the gender that saved the day. Just, for some reason, one sex seems to come out on top all the time. This can take a few forms.



* '''Customary Incompetence:''' For instances where the failure of one gender is due to the way they're treated by members of the other gender. For instance, [[StayInTheKitchen male characters encouraging equally-capable female ones to stand back and let them handle it]], so that the males don't have to protect them. The females may go along with the plan because it's expected, reducing their effectiveness regardless of any spells/techniques/special training they may otherwise have. Depending on how far towards its extreme this is taken, this one has been TruthInTelevision in many periods of history.

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* '''Customary Incompetence:''' For instances where the failure of one gender is due to the way they're treated by members of the other gender. For instance, [[StayInTheKitchen male characters encouraging equally-capable female ones to stand back and let them handle it]], so that the males don't have to protect them. The females women may reluctantly go along with the plan because it's expected, reducing their effectiveness regardless of any spells/techniques/special training they may otherwise have. Depending on how far towards its extreme this is taken, this one has been TruthInTelevision in many periods of history.
history, as out right misogyny was considered the norm back then (and even now.
28th Dec '16 11:43:59 PM stickyheaders
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* Extemely common in modern advertising, usually with a stupid, immature husband married to a smart, very competent wife who of course uses the product being advertised. Some research shows that this trope, while successful in getting women to buy the product, serves to alienate men who would otherwise buy it.

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* Extemely common in modern advertising, usually with a stupid, immature husband married to a smart, very competent wife who of course uses the product being advertised. Some research shows that this trope, while successful in getting women to buy the product, serves to alienate men who would otherwise buy it.

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* In ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'', it seems to be something of a theme to have an all-female society with strange and terrible powers suddenly have to deal with a man with those exact same powers, only several jillion times stronger. According to certain throwaway lines regarding Norma Cenva in ''Literature/GodEmperorOfDune'', there have been genderswapped variants of this in the past as well.

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* In most animated sitcoms, particularly ''{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}}'' and ''TheSimpsons'', the female characters are depicted as being far more competent than the male ones, to the point where male characters are rendered as bungling idiots (Fry, Bender, Homer, sometimes Bart) while female characters are rendered as innately clever, cunning, wise or even good in a fight (Marge, Lisa, Maggie, Leela.)
** [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in one TheSimpsons episode, where it's revealed that it's a genetic trait for Simpson men to end up as stupid losers. Simpson women, on the other hand, are invariably geniuses.

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* In most animated sitcoms, particularly ''{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}}'' and ''TheSimpsons'', the female characters are depicted as being far more competent than the male ones, to the point where male characters are rendered as bungling idiots (Fry, Bender, Homer, sometimes Bart) while female characters are rendered as innately clever, cunning, wise or even good in a fight (Marge, Lisa, Maggie, Leela.)
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16th Jul '16 10:41:50 AM HighCrate
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** Kim's dad and brothers seem perfectly competent (and her brothers' future selves are buff ass-kickers), though.
* Generally averted on ''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}''. Most, if not all, of the characters are at about the same level of (in)competence. Pretty much everyone is screwed up emotionally or mentally, with no overt correlation between level of competence or emotional state and gender.
** Except Carol. But that's not because she's a woman, that's just because she's [[CloudCuckoolander Carol]].
16th Jul '16 10:11:29 AM nombretomado
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* Generally averted on {{Archer}}. Most, if not all, of the characters are at about the same level of (in)competence. Pretty much everyone is screwed up emotionally or mentally, with no overt correlation between level of competence or emotional state and gender.

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* Generally averted on {{Archer}}.''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}''. Most, if not all, of the characters are at about the same level of (in)competence. Pretty much everyone is screwed up emotionally or mentally, with no overt correlation between level of competence or emotional state and gender.
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* Shonen anime seems to suffer from this frequently, having any girl being useless in the long run, except for the one or 2 episodes they're given in the spotlight, before they go back to being useless. They often attempt to balance this out by throwing in one tough competent female side character.
** Even a fairly real ActionGirl will almost always wind up fighting another girl when the two teams come up against each other, rendering it 'the girl fight.' It is almost never really important to the plot/battle.
** ''Manga/SoulEater'' being a possible exception in this respect. Even ignoring the Action Girl Heroine, it's harder to name a female character in the cast - main or otherwise - who ''isn't'' either an Action Girl or in some other way competent.
** Series that have an UnwantedHarem component (Such as ''RosarioToVampire'') also avert this, since it'd be bad both if the guy was useless (why would the girls like him if he's TheLoad?) and the only useful one (misogyny, [[TheDulcineaEffect and he'd have less reason to care, too.]]).
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