History Main / FreedomFromChoice

13th Nov '16 9:43:21 AM Ea4g
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->'''Hawke:''' The Qunari take away freedom.\\
'''Tallis:''' Is a sparrow buffeted by the wind free to choose where she flies?
-->-- ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''

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->'''Hawke:''' The Qunari take away freedom.\\
'''Tallis:''' Is
->"Do not be a sparrow buffeted by the wind clockwork orange,
->Freedom has a lovely voice.
->Here is good, and there is evil,
->Look on both, then make your choice.
->Sweet in juice and hue and aroma,
->Let's not be changed to fruit machines.
->Choice is
free to choose where she flies?
but seldom easy,
->That's what human freedom means."

-->-- ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''
''Literature/ClockworkOrange''
6th Sep '16 4:45:36 PM tealmage
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* The Kindar in the ''Literature/GreenSkyTrilogy'' have their professions decided for them at the age of thirteen.
30th Jul '16 5:41:13 PM nombretomado
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* DaveBarry has a column or two on the same subject as Calvin's dad: "For problems concerning Extra-pulpy Vitamin-enhanced orange juice in 32oz size, press one. For problems concerning Extra-pulpy Vitamin-enhanced orange juice in 64oz size, press two. For problems..."
* CharlieBrooker did a [[http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/05/charlie-brooker-cultural-diet rant]] about this in ''[[BritishNewspapers The Guardian]]'', and how he wants a 'cultural diet' because he has too many films to watch.

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* DaveBarry Creator/DaveBarry has a column or two on the same subject as Calvin's dad: "For problems concerning Extra-pulpy Vitamin-enhanced orange juice in 32oz size, press one. For problems concerning Extra-pulpy Vitamin-enhanced orange juice in 64oz size, press two. For problems..."
* CharlieBrooker Creator/CharlieBrooker did a [[http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/05/charlie-brooker-cultural-diet rant]] about this in ''[[BritishNewspapers The Guardian]]'', and how he wants a 'cultural diet' because he has too many films to watch.
17th Jul '16 6:01:39 PM MsChibi
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* Some of the supporters of traditional gender roles and expectations (in particular, certain religious leaders), say that women are "oppressed" because they are (supposedly) overwhelmed with all the choices they have, or are unsatisfied with life because they picked options other than what's (supposedly) [[AppealToNature "natural."]]
10th Jun '16 1:54:07 AM Morgenthaler
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* TheHandmaidsTale has this as a DiscussedTrope. Under the rule of TheFundamentalist [[NoWomansLand Republic of Gilead]], women have had all their power completely stripped in every meaningful way. Some women adjust well to their new lives, and seem to truly believe that they're better off. Those who were not convinced that this trope was a good thing had it put to them another way; before they had "freedom to" do a lot of things, but now they have "freedom from" a lot of the problems that came with it, and the woman saying this said, quite sincerely, not to undervalue "freedom from". However, it didn't particularly matter if they accepted this or not, since they had no rights and no power anymore.

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* TheHandmaidsTale ''Literature/TheHandmaidsTale'' has this as a DiscussedTrope. Under the rule of TheFundamentalist [[NoWomansLand Republic of Gilead]], women have had all their power completely stripped in every meaningful way. Some women adjust well to their new lives, and seem to truly believe that they're better off. Those who were not convinced that this trope was a good thing had it put to them another way; before they had "freedom to" do a lot of things, but now they have "freedom from" a lot of the problems that came with it, and the woman saying this said, quite sincerely, not to undervalue "freedom from". However, it didn't particularly matter if they accepted this or not, since they had no rights and no power anymore.
9th Jun '16 5:36:39 AM Mdumas43073
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* ''Website/TheOnion'': "[[http://www.theonion.com/article/man-psyches-self-out-during-selection-of-ice-cream-5428 Man Psyches Self Out During Selection Of Ice-Cream Flavor]]"
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7th Mar '16 3:00:43 PM Lullaby22
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** This is also the motivation behind HYDRA in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'', which takes place after ''The Avengers.'' Perhaps appropriately, HYDRA is an offshoot of the old Nazi party.
20th Feb '16 12:12:02 PM nombretomado
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* Loki talks a lot about this in ''Film/TheAvengers''. He's going to make humanity free from Freedom. He is called a power-hungry crazy man for it every time, including by unarmed civilians. Said civilian that stands up to him is German and is old enough to remember [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler someone]] touting the same philosophy.

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* Loki talks a lot about this in ''Film/TheAvengers''.''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''. He's going to make humanity free from Freedom. He is called a power-hungry crazy man for it every time, including by unarmed civilians. Said civilian that stands up to him is German and is old enough to remember [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler someone]] touting the same philosophy.
20th Feb '16 1:50:29 AM Doug86
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* ''ABitOfFryAndLaurie'' did a sketch where a government minister responsible for a broadcasting deregulation bill arrives at a restaurant and the waiter pretends to be mortified that someone who put so much emphasis on variety has only been given one ordinary set of cutlery, takes it away, and comes back with a huge number of plastic coffee stirrers which he pours on the table, screaming that they might all be rubbish but at least he's got plenty of ''choices''.

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* ''ABitOfFryAndLaurie'' ''Series/ABitOfFryAndLaurie'' did a sketch where a government minister responsible for a broadcasting deregulation bill arrives at a restaurant and the waiter pretends to be mortified that someone who put so much emphasis on variety has only been given one ordinary set of cutlery, takes it away, and comes back with a huge number of plastic coffee stirrers which he pours on the table, screaming that they might all be rubbish but at least he's got plenty of ''choices''.
11th Jan '16 2:28:59 PM Gen
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* Perhaps not surprisingly, this was a part of the [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis']] ideology. They replaced freedom of choice with the ''fuhrerprinzip'' (leader principle), i.e. obedience to higher authority, with the Fuhrer's word being above all law (this was partly an outgrowth of Germany unifying with Prussia at its center, with Prussia's strong military culture seeping into the rest of the country, especially through education). It was thus felt that if people were obeying orders, nothing they did could be wrong. Therefore when Nazi war criminals [[JustFollowingOrders used this defense at Nuremberg]] it was not entirely self-serving or cognitive dissonance-they ''really believed that.''

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* Perhaps not surprisingly, this was a part of the [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis']] ideology. They replaced freedom of choice with the ''fuhrerprinzip'' ''Führerprinzip'' (leader principle), i.e. obedience to higher authority, with the Fuhrer's word being above all law (this was partly an outgrowth of Germany unifying with Prussia at its center, with Prussia's strong military culture seeping into the rest of the country, especially through education). It was thus felt that if people were obeying orders, nothing they did could be wrong. Therefore when Nazi war criminals [[JustFollowingOrders used this defense at Nuremberg]] it was not entirely self-serving or cognitive dissonance-they ''really believed that.''
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