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11th Jan '17 7:00:40 PM nombretomado
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* Creator/DorothyLSayers is an interesting case in that she zombie'd her own franchise with no help from publishers whatsoever (though they were undoubtedly grateful that she did). She originally wrote ''Strong Poison'', introducing the character of novelist Harriet Vane, because she was tired of LordPeterWimsey and wanted to get rid of him by marrying him off - at the time it was held that a detective-series hero could not be married without breaking the 'rules' of the genre. However, when Sayers finished drafting the novel she realized that in Harriet she had created a character with more integrity and interior reality than her series hero had, so she had to go back and write almost as many novels again featuring Lord Peter before he reached a point of psychological complexity and reality enough that she could feel comfortable letting Harriet marry him. She then wrote a novel about their honeymoon and had plans to continue the series further, but moved onto other projects and never completed the next manuscript.

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* Creator/DorothyLSayers is an interesting case in that she zombie'd her own franchise with no help from publishers whatsoever (though they were undoubtedly grateful that she did). She originally wrote ''Strong Poison'', introducing the character of novelist Harriet Vane, because she was tired of LordPeterWimsey Literature/LordPeterWimsey and wanted to get rid of him by marrying him off - at the time it was held that a detective-series hero could not be married without breaking the 'rules' of the genre. However, when Sayers finished drafting the novel she realized that in Harriet she had created a character with more integrity and interior reality than her series hero had, so she had to go back and write almost as many novels again featuring Lord Peter before he reached a point of psychological complexity and reality enough that she could feel comfortable letting Harriet marry him. She then wrote a novel about their honeymoon and had plans to continue the series further, but moved onto other projects and never completed the next manuscript.
8th Jan '17 3:46:52 AM IceBearBelievesInYou
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But sometimes the creation does so well that an {{executive|meddling}}, a publisher, or someone else with a lot of power demands that the franchise continue. The author is told to write more books (or discovers that nothing else draws in the money). The game designer is told to make more games. The director is told to make a movie sequel.

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But sometimes the creation does so well that an {{executive|meddling}}, {{executive|Meddling}}, a publisher, or someone else with a lot of power demands that the franchise continue. The author is told to write more books (or discovers that nothing else draws in the money). The game designer is told to make more games. The director is told to make a movie sequel.
1st Jan '17 11:32:18 AM NegiSpongie
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* Many believe that this is the case with ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'' given that the show has been cancelled ''three times'' and has been brought back by Nickelodeon, each time bringing in a new character in order to keep the show fresh. It wasn't until the show was brought back a fourth time and the addition of the character, Chloe, that many fans feel that the series has long overstayed its welcome.
16th Dec '16 1:19:50 PM Darthrai
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* The ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime. It was intended to end after ''one season'', but has remained going to this very day, though it has had it's ups and downs since the original series. There's also the movies, which currently number in the high teens. Not helping matters is that the movies [[NonSerialMovie don't even maintain continuity with each other]], which was the cause of much controversy for the [[Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened sixteenth]] movie, along with the fact that they continued to mechanically follow the same formula time even as the main anime's writing and animation were kicked up a notch. It says something when the announcement of ''Anime/PokemonIChooseYou'', a nostalgia-based MilestoneCelebration movie, was one of the most surprising things revealed for the franchise in years.

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* The ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime. It was intended to end after ''one season'', but has remained going to this very day, though it has had it's ups and downs since the original series. There's also the movies, which currently number in the high teens. Not helping matters is that the movies [[NonSerialMovie don't even maintain continuity with each other]], which was the cause of much controversy for the [[Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened sixteenth]] movie, along with the fact that they continued to [[StrictlyFormula mechanically follow the same formula formula]] over time time even as the main anime's writing and animation were kicked up a notch. It says something when the announcement of ''Anime/PokemonIChooseYou'', a nostalgia-based MilestoneCelebration movie, was one of the most surprising things revealed for the franchise in years.
16th Dec '16 1:19:07 PM Darthrai
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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' The anime series falls under this. It was intended to end after ''one season'', but has remained going to this very day, though it has had it's ups and downs since the original series. There's also the movies, which currently number in the high teens. Not helping matters is that the movies [[NonSerialMovie don't even maintain continuity with each other]], which was the cause of much controversy for the [[Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened sixteenth]] movie, along with the fact that they continued to mechanically follow the same formula time even as the main anime's writing and animation were kicked up a notch. It says something when the announcement of ''Anime/PokemonIChooseYou'', a nostalgia-based MilestoneCelebration movie, was one of the most surprising things revealed for the franchise in years.

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* The ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' The anime series falls under this.anime. It was intended to end after ''one season'', but has remained going to this very day, though it has had it's ups and downs since the original series. There's also the movies, which currently number in the high teens. Not helping matters is that the movies [[NonSerialMovie don't even maintain continuity with each other]], which was the cause of much controversy for the [[Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened sixteenth]] movie, along with the fact that they continued to mechanically follow the same formula time even as the main anime's writing and animation were kicked up a notch. It says something when the announcement of ''Anime/PokemonIChooseYou'', a nostalgia-based MilestoneCelebration movie, was one of the most surprising things revealed for the franchise in years.
16th Dec '16 1:18:07 PM Darthrai
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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' The anime series falls under this. It was intended to end after ''one season'', but has remained going to this very day, though it has had it's ups and downs since the original series. There's also the movies, which currently number in the high teens. Not helping matters is that the movies [[NonSerialMovie don't even maintain continuity with each other]], which was the cause of much controversy for the [[Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened sixteenth]] movie.

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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' The anime series falls under this. It was intended to end after ''one season'', but has remained going to this very day, though it has had it's ups and downs since the original series. There's also the movies, which currently number in the high teens. Not helping matters is that the movies [[NonSerialMovie don't even maintain continuity with each other]], which was the cause of much controversy for the [[Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened sixteenth]] movie.movie, along with the fact that they continued to mechanically follow the same formula time even as the main anime's writing and animation were kicked up a notch. It says something when the announcement of ''Anime/PokemonIChooseYou'', a nostalgia-based MilestoneCelebration movie, was one of the most surprising things revealed for the franchise in years.
11th Dec '16 7:40:03 PM IAmNotAFunguy
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* ''Film/AirBud'' is a memorable family baseball comedy about a dog that just wants to play baseball. It also had a pretty good sequel that came out the following year. Every sequel after that is direct-to-video and just has Buddy taking on yet another sport. Worse yet is the ''Air Buddies'' spinoff series starring Buddy's offspring. They have not only replaced the ''Buddy'' character entirely, but with seven different films, it's very clear it's nothing but another cash-grab series.

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* ''Film/AirBud'' is a memorable family baseball comedy about a dog that just wants to play baseball. It also had a pretty good sequel that came out the following year. Every sequel after that is direct-to-video and just has Buddy taking on yet another sport. Worse yet is the ''Air Buddies'' spinoff series starring Buddy's offspring. They have not only replaced the ''Buddy'' character entirely, but with seven different films, it's very clear it's nothing but another cash-grab series. The spinoff series even has a spinoff of its own in the form of the ''Santa Paws'' films.
11th Dec '16 7:39:22 PM IAmNotAFunguy
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* ''Film/AirBud'' is a memorable family baseball comedy about a dog that just wants to play baseball. It also had a pretty good sequel that came out the following year. Every sequel after that is direct-to-video and just has Buddy taking on yet another sport. Worse yet is the ''Air Buddies'' spinoff series starring Buddy's offspring. They have not only replaced the ''Buddy'' character entirely, but with seven different films, it's very clear it's nothing but another cash-grab series.
8th Dec '16 10:39:26 AM WhatArtThee
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Sometimes this happens when the creator really doesn't want to keep going and would rather try out different things. But the creator doesn't have much choice -- it's either do the sequel yourself or let someone else do it, perhaps less adequately (thereby tarnishing the image of the original) -- and keeps going anyway. The result is sometimes a lifeless franchise, a franchise that has had all the originality and creativity -- all the life -- sucked out of it, but keeps stumbling forward anyway. This often has the tragic effect of [[CreatorBacklash souring the creator on their own work]], sometimes preventing a more natural follow-up or continuation. If this happens, then the franchise can go on indefinitely, continued by the company long after the creator has tried to put a definitive end on the series and backed away from it permanently - or even [[OutlivedItsCreator after]] [[AuthorExistenceFailure the creator has died]]. At this point, since it is effectively immortal, the phenomenon might be known as a Franchise Zombie.

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Sometimes this happens when the creator really doesn't want to keep going and would rather try out different things. But the creator doesn't have much choice -- it's either do the sequel yourself or let someone else do it, perhaps less adequately (thereby tarnishing the image of the original) -- and keeps going anyway. The result is sometimes Sometimes, the new installments manage to be well received, and the fans stay happy. But sometimes, it results in a lifeless franchise, a franchise that has had all the originality and creativity -- all the life -- sucked out of it, but keeps stumbling forward anyway. This often has the tragic effect of [[CreatorBacklash souring the creator on their own work]], sometimes preventing a more natural follow-up or continuation. If this happens, then the franchise can go on indefinitely, continued by the company long after the creator has tried to put a definitive end on the series and backed away from it permanently - or even [[OutlivedItsCreator after]] [[AuthorExistenceFailure the creator has died]]. At this point, since it is effectively immortal, the phenomenon might be known as a Franchise Zombie.
4th Dec '16 8:25:59 AM WhatArtThee
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* While the entire ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' franchise can be argued to be this (see below), the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime shows more signs of this than the rest of the franchise. The anime series was intended to end after ''one season'', but has been going on and on for decades. While the games have currently seen an increase in innovation and creative effort, the anime continues to be StrictlyFormula and [[FleetingDemographicRule is made for a constantly cycling demographic of young children]] while only paying lip service to older fans, which spares the writers from having to live up to the high expectations of older audiences. There's also the movies, which currently number in the high teens. Not helping matters is that the movies [[NonSerialMovie don't even maintain continuity with each other]], which was the cause of much controversy for the [[Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened sixteenth]] movie.

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* While the entire ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' franchise can be argued to be this (see below), the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime shows more signs of this than the rest of the franchise. The anime series falls under this. It was intended to end after ''one season'', but has been remained going on to this very day, though it has had it's ups and on for decades. While downs since the games have currently seen an increase in innovation and creative effort, the anime continues to be StrictlyFormula and [[FleetingDemographicRule is made for a constantly cycling demographic of young children]] while only paying lip service to older fans, which spares the writers from having to live up to the high expectations of older audiences.original series. There's also the movies, which currently number in the high teens. Not helping matters is that the movies [[NonSerialMovie don't even maintain continuity with each other]], which was the cause of much controversy for the [[Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened sixteenth]] movie.



* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' Company CEO Tsunekazu Ishihara stated that ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'' were intended to be the final games, as stated that "once we entered the twenty-first century, it would be time for me to do something else entirely." [[CashCowFranchise Oodles of cash]] must have changed his mind, as four more generations followed with more likely coming (though [[PopularityPolynomial the series has had its ups and downs ever since]]).

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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' Company CEO Tsunekazu Ishihara stated that ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'' were intended to be the final games, as stated that "once we entered the twenty-first century, it would be time for me to do something else entirely." [[CashCowFranchise Oodles of cash]] must have changed his mind, as four more generations followed with more likely coming (though [[PopularityPolynomial the series has had its ups and downs ever since]]).continued since with no signs of stopping.
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