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19th Nov '17 4:07:03 AM Midna
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* Certain games in the ''VideoGame/RhythmHeaven'' series give an explicit numerical score for the player at the end of a rhythm game. Over 85 is Superb, between 60 and 85 is OK, and below 60 fails the stage, forcing the player to try again.
16th Nov '17 7:58:42 PM Vilui
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** The Australian version of the show tends to vary a little more with bad dancers getting in the 40-50% range. There are some rarer exceptions NikkiWebster got a 1 from one of the judges, almost certainly a publicity stunt as people have danced far worse and gotten more. A couple of contestants have gotten 1's from all the judges but you pretty much have to dress up like a clown and go completely insane to get that (which one guy did).

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** The Australian version of the show tends to vary a little more with bad dancers getting in the 40-50% range. There are some rarer exceptions NikkiWebster got a 1 from one of the judges, almost certainly a publicity stunt as people have danced far worse and gotten more. A couple of contestants have gotten 1's 1s from all the judges but you pretty much have to dress up like a clown and go completely insane to get that (which one guy did).



* ''Series/VideoPower'' was an early 90's show meant to cover everything related to video games, including reviews of recent titles. It only takes watching a few episodes of this to notice the host never does a game he doesn't recommend.

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* ''Series/VideoPower'' was an early 90's 90s show meant to cover everything related to video games, including reviews of recent titles. It only takes watching a few episodes of this to notice the host never does a game he doesn't recommend.



** They switched to letter grades in late 2012. For three years, they managed never to go lower than C-minus (''Series/TheXFactor'' winner Tate Stevens' debut, the video for Eli Young Band's "Say Goodnight", Music/LukeBryan's "That's My Kind of Night", and the video for Music/FloridaGeorgiaLine's "This Is How We Roll"). The magazine finally gave out ''four'' D's[[note]]David Fanning's "Doing Country Right", Waterloo Revival's "Bad for You", Eric Paslay's "High Class", and Jana Kramer's "Said No One Ever"[[/note]] and a D-minus[[note]]Danielle Bradbery's "Friend Zone"[[/note]] in 2015 and 2016, but still never gave out an F before the magazine stopped publication in 2016.

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** They switched to letter grades in late 2012. For three years, they managed never to go lower than C-minus (''Series/TheXFactor'' winner Tate Stevens' debut, the video for Eli Young Band's "Say Goodnight", Music/LukeBryan's "That's My Kind of Night", and the video for Music/FloridaGeorgiaLine's "This Is How We Roll"). The magazine finally gave out ''four'' D's[[note]]David [=Ds=][[note]]David Fanning's "Doing Country Right", Waterloo Revival's "Bad for You", Eric Paslay's "High Class", and Jana Kramer's "Said No One Ever"[[/note]] and a D-minus[[note]]Danielle Bradbery's "Friend Zone"[[/note]] in 2015 and 2016, but still never gave out an F before the magazine stopped publication in 2016.



* This became a point of contention during the 2016 NBA Slam Dunk Contest. Judges were liberally giving out high scores to point where as the dunks grew more and more impressive, they felt obligated to give them 10's. This led to it taking multiple rounds because the final two athletes kept on tying.

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* This became a point of contention during the 2016 NBA Slam Dunk Contest. Judges were liberally giving out high scores to point where as the dunks grew more and more impressive, they felt obligated to give them 10's.10s. This led to it taking multiple rounds because the final two athletes kept on tying.



* In music festival ratings (mostly for high school choirs, orchestras and bands), you theoretically have 5 levels you can rate a performance. The scale is 5 = Poor, 4 = Fair, 3 = Good, 2 = Excellent, 1 = Superior. Very few groups get a 4 or 5, and 3's are what's given when something was terrible. The "Excellent" or "2" rating goes to groups that range from acceptable to very good. It's partially meant to be encouraging. You also have to sign your rating form and you want to be invited back - judges get paid.
** The only groups that ever get '4's or '5's are those that are entering the competition for the first time. It may be that most judges consider a '4' to be below whatever they usually see in a music festival.

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* In music festival ratings (mostly for high school choirs, orchestras and bands), you theoretically have 5 levels you can rate a performance. The scale is 5 = Poor, 4 = Fair, 3 = Good, 2 = Excellent, 1 = Superior. Very few groups get a 4 or 5, and 3's 3s are what's given when something was terrible. The "Excellent" or "2" rating goes to groups that range from acceptable to very good. It's partially meant to be encouraging. You also have to sign your rating form and you want to be invited back - judges get paid.
** The only groups that ever get '4's 4s or '5's 5s are those that are entering the competition for the first time. It may be that most judges consider a '4' 4 to be below whatever they usually see in a music festival.



* In Southern California, restaurants are given a letter grade based on health and safety standards. It's mostly about how clean the place is. While the rankings follow the usual A, B, C, D, F moniker, most restaurants have an A grade. It's rare that a place has B (even in food courts where its neighbors have A's). [[JustifiedTrope Since it's an official government statement on a restaurant's hygienic practices, anything below an A is practically a kiss of death]] -- consumers tend to assume that even a B-rated place is a plague pit, even though objectively that's still considered an acceptable rating. Most restaurants overhaul their practices ''very quickly'' to get back to an A rating or risk going bankrupt. Although this imbalance was not intended, it's generally seen as an overall good thing from a public health perspective. [[note]]The exceptions are niche restaurants whose select customers care less about the rating and more about the niche, and in ethnic neighborhoods where eateries may cater only to the local population, who will eat there regardless[[/note]] It's also enforced to an extent: You will never eat at a restaurant graded D or F, even if you wanted to, because the health department will have shut it down. New York City also has a similar grading system for its eateries, though the ratings only consist of A, B, C, and "pending". Any place that doesn't have an A is usually not bothered with by consumers, even though a B rating isn't generally too bad (passable but with minor problems found that can easily be fixed).

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* In Southern California, restaurants are given a letter grade based on health and safety standards. It's mostly about how clean the place is. While the rankings follow the usual A, B, C, D, F moniker, most restaurants have an A grade. It's rare that a place has B (even in food courts where its neighbors have A's).[=A=]s). [[JustifiedTrope Since it's an official government statement on a restaurant's hygienic practices, anything below an A is practically a kiss of death]] -- consumers tend to assume that even a B-rated place is a plague pit, even though objectively that's still considered an acceptable rating. Most restaurants overhaul their practices ''very quickly'' to get back to an A rating or risk going bankrupt. Although this imbalance was not intended, it's generally seen as an overall good thing from a public health perspective. [[note]]The exceptions are niche restaurants whose select customers care less about the rating and more about the niche, and in ethnic neighborhoods where eateries may cater only to the local population, who will eat there regardless[[/note]] It's also enforced to an extent: You will never eat at a restaurant graded D or F, even if you wanted to, because the health department will have shut it down. New York City also has a similar grading system for its eateries, though the ratings only consist of A, B, C, and "pending". Any place that doesn't have an A is usually not bothered with by consumers, even though a B rating isn't generally too bad (passable but with minor problems found that can easily be fixed).



** It's followed even more in elementary and middle school. It's gotten to the point where helicopter parents will call up their children's teachers in a fit when their report cards contain even a couple of B's.

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** It's followed even more in elementary and middle school. It's gotten to the point where helicopter parents will call up their children's teachers in a fit when their report cards contain even a couple of B's.[=Bs=].



* The AP (Advanced Placement) program, by which American high school students, usually juniors and seniors, can get credit for intro college courses, averts this in general. Scores range from 1 to 5, and most scores are 3's, with 1's and 5's typically the least common. (However, tests that are considered harder, like calculus, physics, and foreign languages, skew upward in their scoring because of who tends to take them.) A 4-5 is usually enough for college credit; many colleges also accept 3's and a few accept 2's or use them to place students into honors versions of intro courses.

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* The AP (Advanced Placement) program, by which American high school students, usually juniors and seniors, can get credit for intro college courses, averts this in general. Scores range from 1 to 5, and most scores are 3's, 3s, with 1's 1s and 5's 5s typically the least common. (However, tests that are considered harder, like calculus, physics, and foreign languages, skew upward in their scoring because of who tends to take them.) A 4-5 is usually enough for college credit; many colleges also accept 3's 3s and a few accept 2's 2s or use them to place students into honors versions of intro courses.
13th Nov '17 6:53:29 PM Viira
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* {{Parodied}} by ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'' in one of their PSA videos, [[http://roosterteeth.com/archive/?id=1340&v=more&s=8 "Game On"]]. In the segment on game reviews, among other things Griff says that scores of 1-6 are meaningless because no game ever gets them, and that a 9.9 and a 10 are the same score but the reviewer doesn't like the developer for some reason.

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* {{Parodied}} by ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'' in one of their PSA videos, [[http://roosterteeth.com/archive/?id=1340&v=more&s=8 [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5aUvk86XiA "Game On"]]. In the segment on game reviews, among other things Griff Grif says that scores of 1-6 are meaningless because no game ever gets them, and that a 9.9 and a 10 are is the same score but as 10, except the reviewer doesn't like the developer for some reason.
31st Oct '17 1:20:07 PM SeptimusHeap
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** Then in 2007, ''VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'', ''[[VideoGame/{{Half-Life 2}} The]] [[VideoGame/{{Portal}} Orange]] [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 Box]]'', and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' were awarded 10s three months running, and since then the score has been awarded a lot more frequently. (See [[http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/xbox-360/news/does-a-perfect-score-mean-a-perfect-game/a-2007100919021828033/g-20060321132945404017/p-6 this interview with the editor]] for a discussion of their reviewing philosophy from around that time.) In contrast to 10/10, they've only used the dread 1/10 score twice - for the godawful ''Kabuki Warriors'', and ''VideoGame/FlatOut 3''.

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** Then in 2007, ''VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'', ''[[VideoGame/{{Half-Life 2}} ''[[VideoGame/HalfLife2 The]] [[VideoGame/{{Portal}} Orange]] [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 Box]]'', and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' were awarded 10s three months running, and since then the score has been awarded a lot more frequently. (See [[http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/xbox-360/news/does-a-perfect-score-mean-a-perfect-game/a-2007100919021828033/g-20060321132945404017/p-6 this interview with the editor]] for a discussion of their reviewing philosophy from around that time.) In contrast to 10/10, they've only used the dread 1/10 score twice - for the godawful ''Kabuki Warriors'', and ''VideoGame/FlatOut 3''.
9th Oct '17 9:35:01 AM Malady
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* ''Q Magazine'' has never gotten over giving five stars to the legendary {{Oasis}} [[HypeBacklash train wreck]] ([[BrokenBase for some, anyway]]) ''Be Here Now''.

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* ''Q Magazine'' has never gotten over giving five stars to the legendary {{Oasis}} Music/{{Oasis}} [[HypeBacklash train wreck]] ([[BrokenBase for some, anyway]]) ''Be Here Now''.
9th Oct '17 9:32:59 AM Malady
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** It isn't unheard of for them to go a little lower. BrooksAndDunn's and Music/KennyChesney's discographies include at least a two-star and two-and-a-half star apiece. Kenny has ''two'' two-stars.
** With [[{{Nickelback}} certain]] [[MCHammer artists]] it shifts the scale about one-and-a-half stars lower.

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** It isn't unheard of for them to go a little lower. BrooksAndDunn's Music/BrooksAndDunn's and Music/KennyChesney's discographies include at least a two-star and two-and-a-half star apiece. Kenny has ''two'' two-stars.
** With [[{{Nickelback}} [[Music/{{Nickelback}} certain]] [[MCHammer [[Music/MCHammer artists]] it shifts the scale about one-and-a-half stars lower.
24th Sep '17 5:49:57 PM nombretomado
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* ''[=GamesRadar=]'' is [[http://www.gamesradar.com/f/what-is-seven-out-of-10-week/a-20080721121451869026 fully aware]] of the four point scale, and examines this phenomenon in their article: [[http://www.gamesradar.com/f/shit-games-that-scraped-a-seven-out-of-ten/a-2008072310514413006 "Crap games that scored a seven out of ten."]] Take with a grain of salt, however, as half of the list is immediate dismissal based on genre, nature, [[note]]''Nascar 2007'' is on the list explicitly because [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike the author doesn't like Nascar]], and ''Prince Caspian'' doesn't get beyond the fact that [[TheProblemWithLicensedGames it's a licensed game]] -- whether it [[NoProblemWithLicensedGames really is good or bad in its own right]] is left a total mystery to the reader.[[/note]] or most jarringly, [[PeripheryHatedom target audience]][[note]]The portion featuring the ''Nancy Drew'' game on the list is vocally appalled that a game targeted towards girls got a passing score.[[/note]] rather than the content of the games.

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* ''[=GamesRadar=]'' is [[http://www.gamesradar.com/f/what-is-seven-out-of-10-week/a-20080721121451869026 fully aware]] of the four point scale, and examines this phenomenon in their article: [[http://www.gamesradar.com/f/shit-games-that-scraped-a-seven-out-of-ten/a-2008072310514413006 "Crap games that scored a seven out of ten."]] Take with a grain of salt, however, as half of the list is immediate dismissal based on genre, nature, [[note]]''Nascar 2007'' is on the list explicitly because [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike the author doesn't like Nascar]], and ''Prince Caspian'' doesn't get beyond the fact that [[TheProblemWithLicensedGames it's a licensed game]] -- whether it [[NoProblemWithLicensedGames really is good or bad in its own right]] is left a total mystery to the reader.[[/note]] or most jarringly, [[PeripheryHatedom target audience]][[note]]The portion featuring the ''Nancy Drew'' game on the list is vocally appalled that a game targeted towards girls got a passing score.[[/note]] rather than the content of the games.
22nd Sep '17 9:59:19 AM nighttrainfm
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* In an episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', a journalist who travels around America visiting locations to review visits Springfield. He's repeatedly tricked and abused by the residents and storms off to give Springfield the lowest rating he's given anywhere: 6/10.

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In an episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', one episode, a journalist who travels around America visiting locations to review visits Springfield. He's repeatedly tricked and abused by the residents and storms off to give Springfield the lowest rating he's given anywhere: 6/10.
9th Sep '17 10:51:42 AM FordPrefect
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* A particularly interesting example of this trope occurs with brokerages. Brokerages have a quid pro quo relationship with the firms that they're supposed to be rating. Usually there's an informal understanding between the two that if the brokerage advise their investors to sell a particular firm's assets that firm will stop providing the brokerage with information or other privileges. So brokerages almost never give firms a "sell" rating. You can see a Four Point Scale in corporate credit ratings where junk bonds and high risks get a B-rating while better investments get A, AA, AAA, etc. In ordinary education system a B is a respectable grade and a C is a clear pass.

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* A particularly interesting example of this trope occurs with brokerages. Brokerages have a quid pro quo relationship with the firms that they're supposed to be rating. Usually there's an informal understanding between the two that that, if the brokerage advise their investors to sell a particular firm's assets assets, that firm will stop providing the brokerage with information or other privileges. So brokerages almost never give firms a "sell" rating. You can see a Four Point Scale in corporate credit ratings where junk bonds and high risks get a B-rating while better investments get A, AA, AAA, etc. In ordinary education system a B is a respectable grade and a C is a clear pass.



** Related: Jim Cramer of Mad Money (featured in ''Series/ArrestedDevelopment'' and ''IronMan'', as well as being a show) received a lot of flak from Jon Stewart of ''Series/TheDailyShow'' fame when it was revealed that he recommended buys and holds on stocks and companies that were, ''days later'', revealed to be financially and ethically bankrupt. Further investigation revealed that Cramer and some business partners of his were using his show to artificially run up prices of stock that they owned by encouraging buys, then selling the stock, in a bizarre pump & dump scheme that he has never been prosecuted for. This may explain the [[http://online.barrons.com/article/SB118681265755995100.html observed fact]] that you can indeed make money by following Cramer's stock picks specifically by selling them short the day after he touts them as a "buy" on his show.

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** Related: Jim Cramer of Mad Money (featured in ''Series/ArrestedDevelopment'' and ''IronMan'', as well as being a show) received a lot of flak from Jon Stewart of ''Series/TheDailyShow'' fame when it was revealed that he recommended buys and holds on stocks and companies that were, ''days later'', revealed to be financially and ethically bankrupt. Further investigation revealed that Cramer and some business partners of his were using his show to artificially run up prices of stock that they owned by encouraging buys, then selling the stock, in a bizarre pump & dump scheme that he has never been prosecuted for. This may explain the [[http://online.barrons.com/article/SB118681265755995100.html observed fact]] that you can indeed make money by following Cramer's stock picks specifically picks-- specifically, by selling them short the day after he touts them as a "buy" on his show.
1st Sep '17 10:34:44 AM Ulkomaalainen
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* Taxi alternative companies like Uber and Lyft allow riders to give their driver a rating based on several factors on a scale from 1 to 5 stars. On average, anything around 4.5 stars or better is considered good and anything below that means the driver needs to improve their service or risk losing their job. This makes it very easy for riders who don't know how the system works to give less than perfect ratings if they found one or two things that mildly bothered them and other riders with more malicious intent can give out very low scores to hurt the driver.
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