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16th Feb '17 5:16:53 AM MoonByte
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* Literally the first line in ''Theatre/TheLastFiveYears'' is "Jamie is over and Jamie is gone". Since the musical has two timelines with one going backwards, the entire musical may count since everything that happens to Jamie shows what later will happen to Cathy while everything that happens to Cathy shows what will happen to Jamie, ending with Jamie breaking up with her while she reaches the first date with which Jamie started the musical.

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* Literally the first line in ''Theatre/TheLastFiveYears'' is "Jamie is over and Jamie is gone". Since the musical has two timelines with one going backwards, the entire musical may count since everything that happens to Jamie shows what later will happen to Cathy while everything that happens to Cathy shows what will happen to Jamie, ending with [[DownerEnding Jamie breaking up with her her]] while she reaches the first date with which Jamie started the musical.
16th Feb '17 5:16:06 AM MoonByte
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* Literally the first line in ''Theatre/TheLastFiveYears'' is "Jamie is over and Jamie is gone". Since the musical has two timelines with one going backwards, the entire musical may count since everything that happens to Jamie shows what later will happen to Cathy while everything that happens to Cathy shows what will happen to Jamie, ending with Jamie breaking up with her while she reaches the first date with which Jamie started the musical.
15th Feb '17 5:49:40 AM MoonByte
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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' starts with a few. The poet is telling the story, so he will definitely survive everything that's going on.
15th Feb '17 5:39:01 AM MoonByte
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* ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' starts with auctioning things from the opera house. The scene shows a crashed down chandelier and in general a opera house that is badly in shape, proving that - in one way or another - things will go downhill. And then time rewinds as the stage becomes the glamorous opera it had been in the past. Also, the one character that is absolutely clear will survive in the end is Raoul.
15th Feb '17 5:30:00 AM MoonByte
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* ''Film/Ghost1990'' is a case where the advertising and in some cases even the subtitle "Message from Sam" do the ForegoneConclusion without the movie itself actually hinting at it at the beginning. If anyone went into that movie, not knowing that Sam will die, they must have been blind ''and'' deaf.
8th Feb '17 7:43:59 AM cdrood
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* ''Series/BlackSails'' is a double example. It serves as a prequle to ''Literature/TreasureIsland'', which takes place many years later, so we know certain characters will live pass the final season. It also intersperses those characters with real life pirates, whose ultimate fates are well known. However, they've played fast and loose with the historical events to the point the order, time, and places of real world people don't match up with those of their characters. There are also original characters whose fates do not fit the trope.
28th Jan '17 12:57:23 AM LinTaylor
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** This can be said for pretty much every ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' MidQuel regardless of media. No matter how many {{Super Prototype}}s are fielded, no matter how the main character is treated as "the greatest AcePilot the world has never known", it's not going to go against the anime.
15th Jan '17 2:06:15 PM revfitz
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* ''[[http://revfitz.com/chuckcomics.html Kick The Football, Chuck]]'' uses Charlie Brown attempting to kick Lucy's ball as a metaphor for his fight with cancer after chemotherapy. We all know he never kicks it.

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* ''[[http://revfitz.com/chuckcomics.html com/kick-the-football-chuck/ Kick The Football, Chuck]]'' uses Charlie Brown attempting to kick Lucy's ball as a metaphor for his fight with cancer after chemotherapy. We all know he never kicks it.
13th Jan '17 4:22:39 PM smalltime
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* ''Film/SpaceJam'' is partly based on real life events; namely Michael Jordan's brief retirement from basketball in favor of baseball. So you know he's going to go back to basketball at the end.
10th Jan '17 9:04:54 AM Gosicrystal
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** Case 4 of ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney Trials & Tribulations]]'' is [[spoiler: a flashback to Mia's first case as a lawyer]]. As soon as you find out the prosecutor's identity ([[spoiler:Edgeworth]]) it's meant to be clear that [[spoiler: you can't win]] because [[spoiler: Edgeworth never lost a case prior to meeting Phoenix in court]]. Although it was a subversion since [[spoiler:''neither'' lawyer won: the defendant commits suicide while testifying and the case is thrown out without a judgment.]] Also, in ''Apollo Justice'' [[spoiler: there's another flashback trial]] that you know will end badly, because you've already been informed that [[spoiler:it's the one that caused Phoenix's disbarring]]. It's also made clear ''in the same game'' that [[spoiler: Mia is going to lose the case, as shown by her thinking back to it in the first case of the game and reflecting on how badly it ended. Of course, this still led players to expect her to outright ''lose'', instead of ''neither'' lawyer winning, so it's still a subversion]].

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** Case 4 of ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney Trials & Tribulations]]'' is [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a flashback to Mia's first case as a lawyer]]. As soon as you find out the prosecutor's identity ([[spoiler:Edgeworth]]) it's meant to be clear that [[spoiler: you [[spoiler:you can't win]] because [[spoiler: Edgeworth [[spoiler:Edgeworth never lost a case prior to meeting Phoenix in court]]. Although it was a subversion since [[spoiler:''neither'' lawyer won: the defendant commits suicide while testifying and the case is thrown out without a judgment.]] Also, in ''Apollo Justice'' [[spoiler: there's another flashback trial]] that you know will end badly, because you've already been informed that [[spoiler:it's the one that caused Phoenix's disbarring]]. judgment]]. It's also made clear ''in the same game'' that [[spoiler: Mia [[spoiler:Mia is going to lose the case, as shown by her thinking back to it in the first case of the game and reflecting on how badly it ended. Of course, this still led players to expect her to outright ''lose'', instead of ''neither'' lawyer winning, so it's still a subversion]].subversion]].
** In ''VisualNovel/{{Apollo Justice|Ace Attorney}}'' there's [[spoiler:a flashback trial]] that you know will end badly, because you've already been informed that [[spoiler:it's the one that caused Phoenix's disbarring]].



** Furthermore, some cases (usually the first one in each game) show the killer at the very beginning. It's a matter of proving it to the court.
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