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17th Mar '17 10:57:57 PM jtierney50
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* Lampshaded when [[spoiler:Roy]] dies in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''. The deva assigned to process [[spoiler:his]] death says that it's important to fill out the paperwork concerning [[spoiler:his]] death now, so that any time [[spoiler:he]] dies in the future, they can fast-track [[spoiler:him]] directly into Good Heaven, with as little waiting as possible. The strip portrays a literal revolving door with accompanying astral bellhop. [[spoiler:Roy]] mentions that [[spoiler:he]] assumed the phrase "revolving door afterlife" was merely a metaphor, and the deva begins explaining how [[spoiler:Roy]] can begin earning "frequent dying miles".
** Subverted, as [[spoiler:Roy]] stays dead for pretty much the entire arc, while the rest of his party is split up and dealing with their own problems, and Haley, Celia and Belkar try to resurrect [[spoiler:him]] several times to no avail and are constantly getting sidetracked.
** Ironically, this is pretty much the only example of this trope in the entire series, despite the fact that D&D characters can be resurrected as many times as their player wishes, so long as the party has the materials to. The Order of the Stick, meanwhile, struggles to find the resources to resurrect [[spoiler:Roy]] even once, to the point that they have to steal the necessary diamond from [[Main/BreakingTheFourthWall the website's character page]]. No other character is ever resurrected (excluding the undead and immortal Xykon).
14th Mar '17 3:31:44 PM Pinokio
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* In ''[[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]'' vol. 2 #85, the Ragnarok destroys the realms of Yggdrasil and all its inhabitants, and all the Asgardians die. In ''Thor'' vol. 3, everything gradually comes back.
6th Mar '17 5:35:22 PM Jokubas
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** The Alliance expedition is not a proper example -- last we saw them they were in a position to survive for a while longer (Burning Crusade just retconned them to not leaving Draenor after all), it's just that they were presumed dead ''in-universe'' (since no-one on Azeroth knew what had happened to them). Of course, the place the expedition was ''to'' might be an example -- as presented in ''Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal'', Draenor was about to be destroyed. Come ''Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne'', and the place (while shattered and renamed the Outlands) is still habitable, more-or-less.

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** The Alliance expedition is not a proper example -- last we saw them they were in a position to survive for a while longer (Burning Crusade just retconned them to not leaving Draenor after all), it's just that they were presumed dead ''in-universe'' (since no-one on Azeroth knew what had happened to them). Of course, the place the expedition was ''to'' might be an example -- as presented in ''Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal'', Draenor was about to be destroyed. Come ''Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne'', and the place (while shattered and renamed the Outlands) Outland) is still habitable, more-or-less.
20th Feb '17 5:16:22 AM jormis29
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* A subversion, perhaps providing a corollary: "If the character's ''owner'' wants a character to come back, it will come back ''[[ExecutiveMeddling even if the creator and writer doesn't]]''." RA Salvatore didn't want to bring [[Literature/TheLegendOfDrizzt Wulfgar]] back, but was told by [=TSR/=]WizardsOfTheCoast that if he didn't, someone else would. So he did it, figuring his version would probably be better than others. In ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII'', Drizzt's entire party gets a cameo, and upon reference to Hell, Wulfgar quips "I've been there. It was nothing special."

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* A subversion, perhaps providing a corollary: "If the character's ''owner'' wants a character to come back, it will come back ''[[ExecutiveMeddling even if the creator and writer doesn't]]''." RA Salvatore didn't want to bring [[Literature/TheLegendOfDrizzt Wulfgar]] back, but was told by [=TSR/=]WizardsOfTheCoast Creator/{{TSR}}[=/=]Creator/WizardsOfTheCoast that if he didn't, someone else would. So he did it, figuring his version would probably be better than others. In ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII'', Drizzt's entire party gets a cameo, and upon reference to Hell, Wulfgar quips "I've been there. It was nothing special."
22nd Jan '17 10:47:00 AM Pinokio
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** Though ComicBook/JeanGrey is often thought to have died and come back multiple times, the ''original'' Jean Grey has only died and returned a couple times, starting with her death and resurrection in the first Phoenix story, in ''X-Men'' #100-101. In ''ComicBook/TheDarkPhoenixSaga'', Jean wasn't meant to die at the end, as stated by Claremont and others, and it was the intention from the beginning to bring her back, [[AuthorsSavingThrow just not as a super hero who committed genocide]]. In ''ComicBook/NewXMen'', Jean dies [[KilledOffForReal for the final time]], and, aside from her afterlife appearances in the White Hot Room, stays dead, permanently, until her brief series of resurrections in ''Phoenix Endsong'', during which she is revived and killed repeatedly to weaken the Phoenix Force. A teenage, time-displaced Jean appears in ''Comicbook/AllNewXMen''.

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** Though ComicBook/JeanGrey is often thought to have died and come back multiple times, the ''original'' Jean Grey has only died and returned a couple times, starting with her death and resurrection in the first Phoenix story, in ''X-Men'' #100-101. In ''ComicBook/TheDarkPhoenixSaga'', Jean wasn't meant to die at the end, as stated by Claremont and others, and it was the intention from the beginning to bring her back, [[AuthorsSavingThrow just not as a super hero who committed genocide]]. In ''ComicBook/NewXMen'', Jean dies [[KilledOffForReal for the final time]], and, aside from her afterlife appearances in the White Hot Room, Jean stays dead, permanently, until her brief series of resurrections in ''Phoenix Endsong'', during which she is revived and killed repeatedly to weaken the Phoenix Force. A In ''X-Men: Deadly Genesis'', Jean's reputation for frequent resurrection was further lampshaded, when Vulcan impersonates Jean returning from the dead, with Wolverine swearing in disbelief. While the adult Jean has remained incorporeal, a teenage, time-displaced Jean appears in ''Comicbook/AllNewXMen''.



* I hate to tell you this guys, but Ben Reilly is back! In ''ComicBook/DeadNoMoreTheCloneConspiracy''.

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* I hate to tell you this guys, but Ben Reilly is back! In back in ''ComicBook/DeadNoMoreTheCloneConspiracy''.
5th Jan '17 6:42:48 AM Ramidel
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* In the original TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons ''TabletopGame/{{Dragonlance}}'' modules, DM's were specifically instructed that certain villains simply were not allowed to be killed off, and that if the players somehow succeeded in doing so, their apparent death should be done in such a way that the players [[NeverFoundTheBody could not recover the body]], allowing them to return in future modules.

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* In the original TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons ''TabletopGame/{{Dragonlance}}'' modules, DM's were specifically instructed that certain villains [[LordBritishPostulate simply were not allowed to be killed off, off]], and that if the players somehow succeeded in doing so, their apparent death should be done in such a way that the players [[NeverFoundTheBody could not recover the body]], allowing them to return in future modules.
13th Dec '16 12:00:28 PM Pinokio
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* I hate to tell you this guys, but Ben Reilly is back! In ''ComicBook/DeadNoMoreTheCloneConspiracy''.
29th Nov '16 8:04:04 PM Pinokio
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* In general, the ''Comicbook/XMen'' franchise is the poster-child for this trope. The tendency of dead X-Men coming back to life is hilariously mocked in [[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/218160 this flash cartoon parody]]. The fact of the matter is that there are 20+ main characters, and a writer is likely to have any one of them as a favorite. And various members are constantly being killed off for the sake of either drama or to try to thin out the herd. The result is that the average length of death for any mutant in the Marvel universe is 1 to 2 years.

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* In general, the The ''Comicbook/XMen'' franchise is the poster-child for this trope. The tendency of dead X-Men coming back to life is hilariously mocked in [[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/218160 this flash cartoon parody]]. The fact of the matter is that there are 20+ main characters, and a writer is likely to have any one of them as a favorite. And various members are constantly being killed off for the sake of either drama or to try to thin out the herd. The result is that the average length of death for any mutant in the Marvel universe is 1 to 2 years.



** This happens so frequently in ''Comicbook/XMen'' that after Banshee dies in ''X-Men: Deadly Genesis'', in ''ComicBook/XFactor'', his daughter Siryn is informed of his death, and she point blank refuses to believe that he'll stay dead. He ended up coming back from the dead in ''Necrosha'', and again in ''ComicBook/ChaosWar'', and again in ''Comicbook/UncannyAvengers'', but the creator writing his daughter ignored all three of them so she could continue working out her issues on the subject.

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** This happens so frequently in ''Comicbook/XMen'' that after Banshee dies in ''X-Men: Deadly Genesis'', in ''ComicBook/XFactor'', his daughter Siryn is informed of his death, and she point blank refuses to believe that he'll stay dead. He ended showed up in Erebus in ''ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules'' #129, coming back from the dead in ''Necrosha'', and again in ''ComicBook/ChaosWar'', and again in ''Comicbook/UncannyAvengers'', but the creator writing his daughter ignored all three of them so she could continue working out her issues on the subject.subject. Banshee returns for good in ''Comicbook/UncannyAvengers''.
29th Nov '16 7:54:09 PM Pinokio
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* In general, the ''Comicbook/XMen'' franchise is the poster-child for this trope. The fact of the matter is that there are 20+ main characters, and a writer is likely to have any one of them as a favorite. And various members are constantly being killed off for the sake of either drama or to try to thin out the herd. The result is that the average length of death for any mutant in the Marvel universe is 1 to 2 years.

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* In general, the ''Comicbook/XMen'' franchise is the poster-child for this trope. The tendency of dead X-Men coming back to life is hilariously mocked in [[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/218160 this flash cartoon parody]]. The fact of the matter is that there are 20+ main characters, and a writer is likely to have any one of them as a favorite. And various members are constantly being killed off for the sake of either drama or to try to thin out the herd. The result is that the average length of death for any mutant in the Marvel universe is 1 to 2 years.years.
** This happens to Colossus in Creator/JossWhedon's run on ''[[ComicBook/XMen Astonishing X-Men]]''.
----> '''Kitty Pryde:''' ''You have to know that if you're a clone or robot or, yeah, a ghost or an alternate universe thingie, I can deal, ...but if you are some shapeshifter or illusionist who's just watching me twist I will kill you and I will kill you with an axe--''
** This happens so frequently in ''Comicbook/XMen'' that after Banshee dies in ''X-Men: Deadly Genesis'', in ''ComicBook/XFactor'', his daughter Siryn is informed of his death, and she point blank refuses to believe that he'll stay dead. He ended up coming back from the dead in ''Necrosha'', and again in ''ComicBook/ChaosWar'', and again in ''Comicbook/UncannyAvengers'', but the creator writing his daughter ignored all three of them so she could continue working out her issues on the subject.



** In fact this happens so frequently in X-Men that when [[spoiler: Banshee]] dies and his daughter is informed of his death, she point blank refuses to believe that he'll stay dead. This tendency of dead X-Men coming back to life is also hilariously mocked in [[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/218160 this flash cartoon parody]]. He ended up coming back from the dead ''twice'' in two minor crossover events and again slightly later, but the creator writing his daughter ignored all three of them so she could continue working out her issues on the subject.

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** In fact this happens so frequently in X-Men that when [[spoiler: Banshee]] dies They've even gotten GenreSavvy about it, with Beast calling one villain's death a "ComicBook/{{Magneto}} moment," invoking the frequent "deaths" and his daughter is informed "returns" of his the sometimes-[[BigBad Big-Bad]]-sometimes-[[AntiHero Anti-Hero]]. (Almost none of these involved Magneto ''actually'' dying, though sometimes that's via retcon, and very few characters have been ''believed'' to be dead as often as Magneto.) "The more certain the death, she point blank refuses to believe the more certain the resurrection."
** The "Necrosha" {{crossover}} has Selene resurrecting deceased mutants left and right, proving once and for all
that he'll stay dead. This tendency for mutants, death is nothing more than a big game of dead X-Men coming back to life is also hilariously mocked in [[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/218160 this flash cartoon parody]]. He ended up coming back from the dead ''twice'' in two minor crossover events and again slightly later, but the creator writing his daughter ignored all three of them so she could continue working out her issues on the subject.freeze tag.



** They've even gotten GenreSavvy about it, with Beast calling one villain's death a "Magneto moment," invoking the frequent "deaths" and "returns" of the sometimes-[[BigBad Big-Bad]]-sometimes-[[AntiHero Anti-Hero]]. (Almost none of these involved Magneto ''actually'' dying, though sometimes that's via retcon, and very few characters have been ''believed'' to be dead as often as Magneto.) "The more certain the death, the more certain the resurrection."
** This happens to Colossus in Creator/JossWhedon's run on ''[[ComicBook/XMen Astonishing X-Men]]''. Quote Kitty Pryde:
--> ''You have to know that if you're a clone or robot or, yeah, a ghost or an alternate universe thingie, I can deal, ...but if you are some shapeshifter or illusionist who's just watching me twist I will kill you and I will kill you with an axe--''
** The "Necrosha" {{crossover}} has Selene resurrecting deceased mutants left and right, proving once and for all that for mutants, death is nothing more than a big game of freeze tag.
29th Nov '16 7:00:55 PM Pinokio
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** Though ComicBook/JeanGrey is often thought to have died and come back multiple times (possibly the result of adaptations of the original story), the ''original'' Jean Grey died and stayed dead. Jean Grey wasn't actually meant to die at the end of the Dark Phoenix Saga (as stated by Claremont and others), and it was the intention from the beginning to bring her back, [[AuthorsSavingThrow just not as a super hero who committed genocide]]. A teenage, time-displaced Jean appears in ''Comicbook/AllNewXMen''.

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** Though ComicBook/JeanGrey is often thought to have died and come back multiple times (possibly the result of adaptations of the original story), times, the ''original'' Jean Grey has only died and stayed dead. returned a couple times, starting with her death and resurrection in the first Phoenix story, in ''X-Men'' #100-101. In ''ComicBook/TheDarkPhoenixSaga'', Jean Grey wasn't actually meant to die at the end of the Dark Phoenix Saga (as end, as stated by Claremont and others), others, and it was the intention from the beginning to bring her back, [[AuthorsSavingThrow just not as a super hero who committed genocide]].genocide]]. In ''ComicBook/NewXMen'', Jean dies [[KilledOffForReal for the final time]], and, aside from her afterlife appearances in the White Hot Room, stays dead, permanently, until her brief series of resurrections in ''Phoenix Endsong'', during which she is revived and killed repeatedly to weaken the Phoenix Force. A teenage, time-displaced Jean appears in ''Comicbook/AllNewXMen''.
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