History Main / FigureItOutyourself

* Youngsters [[ComingOutStory coming out]] are sometimes surprised to find their parents knew all along. [[OpenSecret As did their friends, neighbors, that person they met once seven years ago...]]"But I've only just realised it myself!" "Yes, but you needed to figure it out for ''yourself''."

* Youngsters [[ComingOutStory coming out]] are sometimes surprised to find their parents knew all along. As did their friends, and neighbours.. "But I've only just realised it myself!" "Yes, but you needed to figure it out for ''yourself''."

*** During his lifetime Socrates objected to the way Plato represented him. Plato basically treated Socrates as a mouthpiece for his ideas.

* After the four retrieve the first piece of the Vasyn in ''Fanfic/WithStringsAttached'' and the Fans “call” to congratulate them, George asks why his ring stuck, and Ringo asks whether he actually teleported or the Fans saved him. Jeft says ~THESE ARE NOT THINGS WE CAN TELL YOU. YOU MUST FIND OUT FOR YOURSELVES.~ To which George, reasonably enough, cries “Rubbish! How're we supposed to find this bloody thing for you if our magic goes haywire for no reason?” Shag is equally annoyed at Jeft for holding out on the four, and answers their questions for them. (At which Jeft sniffs, ~ARE WE QUITE FINISHED SPOILING MYSTERIES?~) Immediately after they leave the four, Jeft gives Shag a series of good reasons why he didn't want to answer the questions. She grudgingly agrees that he was right and she was wrong. [[spoiler:His reasons are all garbage; he really did want to preserve the mysteries in the story, since it's all a game he cooked up.]]

This trope is often used by TheMentor and its subtropes. It is all fine and dandy to teach them how to do whatever it is that they teach, but the student eventually has to find their own answers. The TricksterMentor [[LovesSecrecy enjoys]] [[DelightingInRiddles keeping him in the dark]], of course, but also because it would mean nothing if they just ''told'' the student the solution to the mystery. Likewise, the ZenSurvivor works exactly like this, because no good comes from spoon-feeding.

It is commonly uttered by [[TimeTravel Time Travellers]] since solving people's problems for them would change history... [[TimeyWimeyBall except when it doesn't.]] TimeTravel is funny that way.

An OracularUrchin will get out of de-cryptifying their CrypticConversation with the hero this way. Likewise heroes and super heroes with a SecretLegacy might be overjoyed to find out they're not the black sheep of their family, but wonder why mom and dad never helped out before.

Used in almost exactly the same places and situations as "YouAreNotReady", with the implication that [[OnlySmartPeopleMayPass the act of working the information out is the only way to make yourself worthy of it]]. The intellectual version of HelpingWouldBeKillStealing. See BeAsUnhelpfulAsPossible for characters trying to avoid incrimination. Often couched within a CrypticConversation. Can cross over with ThisIsSomethingHesGotToDoHimself, if these mentors prevent others from aiding the hero. Compare NeverGiveTheCaptainAStraightAnswer.

** The book's overall message is AnAesop about the importance of learning not to be right, but for ''learning's sake.'' When Milo meets with the Princesses, he admits that he's made countless mistakes along the way and can't see the point in them--or of learning things in general. Reason teaches him that the whole point of making mistakes is to figure out for one's self what is the right and wrong thing to do, and that it's only a problem if you've learned what is right and choose to do what's wrong regardless. Rhyme offers a further explanation about the importance of learning seemingly unimportant things: "It's learning what you do with what you learn and learning why you ''learn things at all'' that matters." In other words, true wisdom and intelligence come not from regurgitating information, but figuring out what parts of that information to keep, and then deducing for yourself how to apply that newfound knowledge.

* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown'', BigBad Wuya regains her physical form (with help from a FaceHeelTurn Raimundo), leaving the Xiaolin monks at a loss. Omi uses a Shen Gong Wu to travel back in time and ask Grand Master Dashi, who originally [[SealedEvilInACan trapped Wuya in a puzzle box]], to create a new seal for her. Dashi instead challenges Omi to a Xiaolin Showdown, tasking him to retrieve a pebble from him in an [[Bizarrchitecture M.C. Escher-inspired staircase maze]]. All of Omi's martial arts training and skills fail to help, but just when time is about to run out, Dashi points out that there's something he has not tried yet. Omi promptly ''asks'' for the pebble, which the sage happily gives him. Dashi goes on to explain that while he can create another puzzle box easily, it is up to Omi and the other Xiaolin monks to figure out how to use it properly--the whole point of the Showdown was to emphasize that moral.

* This is a major theme in ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'', and shows up twice. The first is when [[BigFun Po]], a geeky kung fu fan, is chosen as the new [[TheChosenOne Dragon Warrior]], rather than one of the extremely skilled and disciplined Furious Five. When [[TheMentor Master Shifu]] complains about this choice to [[OldMaster Grand Master Oogway]], Oogway merely smiles and tells Shifu that he'll have to figure out why Po was selected for himself (it doesn't help that Oogway is [[spoiler: literally on his deathbed for this conversation, so there's no chance of extracting further information]]). The second is the climax of the film: the whole purpose of choosing the Dragon Warrior is to give that individual the mysterious Dragon Scroll, which contains the ultimate secret of being a kung fu master. When Po finally opens the scroll, it reveals...[[spoiler: a blank, reflective surface. Though he, Shifu, and the Furious Five initially believe this to be a trick, Po eventually deduces that the ''entire point'' of the Dragon Scroll is that kung fu mastery [[BeYourself comes from within]]--the scroll's surface is meant to show the face of the Warrior and encourage them to turn inward for strength. Po uses this newfound knowledge to defeat BigBad Tai Lung with the legendary Wuxi Finger Hold; Po brags that he didn't need to be taught the Hold, as he figured out how to do it in his own way.]]

* Used effectively in a serious arc of ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'': a new rival, Ryu Kumon, is using the devastating ''Yamasenken'' martial art invented by [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass Genma]], and is tearing up the place looking for its counterpart/complement, the ''Umisenken''. However, Genma is [[MyGreatestFailure so horrified that someone is using it]], he utterly ''refuses'' to teach Ranma anything about either style. Only after Ranma is nearly killed and comes home a bruised, battered pulp, does Genma relent slightly: he will use the Umisenken style on Ranma, once, and it's up to Ranma to figure out the entire style from that ridiculously brief demonstration. Naturally, Ranma does.
** Except he actually didn't. His mom found the scroll detailing it and cut it up to use as an envelope containing a message for Ranko. All without being aware that Ranma was Ranko and that Ranma needed to learn the Umisenken.

A more extreme version of CannotSpitItOut,

This trope is often used by TheMentor and its subtropes. It is all find and dandy to teach them how to do whatever it is that they teach, but the student eventually has to find their own answers. The TricksterMentor [[LovesSecrecy enjoys]] [[DelightingInRiddles keeping him in the dark]], of course, but also because it would mean nothing if they just ''told'' the student the solution to the mystery. Likewise, the ZenSurvivor works exactly like this, because no good comes from spoon-feeding.

* Youngsters [[ComingOutStory coming out]] are sometimes surprised to find their parents knew all along. As did their friends, and neighbours.. "But I've only did realised it myself!" "Yes, but you needed to figure it out for ''yourself''."

* This is actually a large part of constructivism, a teaching philosophy that is becoming more common in today's schools and being driven into education major's heads by their instructors. Children are not simply told "This is how you solve a problem." Instead, they are guided through the process with questions and prompts from the teacher so that they can discover the answers themselves.

* Occurs in ''Film/GodzillaVsMegalon'' when one of the heroes tries to same his best friend and little brother, but seeing as its done by trying to convince 2 mooks who were helping the Seatopians (the bad guys), it's more of a case of ScrewThisImOuttaHere

* No one can be told what Franchise/TheMatrix is, [[InvokedTrope you have to see it for yourself]].

This trope is often used by TheMentor and its subtropes. It is all find and dandy to teach them how to do whatever it is that they teach, but the student eventually has to find their own answers. The TricksterMentor [[LovesSecrecy enjoys]] [[DelightingInRiddles keeping him in the dark]], of course, but also because it would mean nothing if they just ''told'' the student the solution to the mystery. Likewise, the ZenSurvivor works exactly like this, because no good comes from spooning feeding.

* In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' Jiraiya tells this to Naruto when he is training him on how to use the Rasengan, that Naruto will have to work out how to pop the balloons and complete all 3 stages of mastering the jutsu by himself.
** Notably, Naruto also improvises a way to do the first stage while circumventing the most difficult part which Jiraiya didn't expect at all.

* In ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'', both Asahina Mikuru and Nagato Yuki give Kyon very incomplete information about [[spoiler: how to ... save the world from Haruhi.]] Kyon puts both clues together at nearly the last minute to do just so. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] to some extent because both Asahina and Nagato are constrained by rules.

-->'''Kyoko''': Hmm, this is going to be a really challenging one, so I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to help you out this time.\\
'''Makoto''': This time? When did you even help me out the first time?
* ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm'':
** Doctor Strange usually takes this approach, preferring to be cryptic and do little more than nudge someone in the right direction, before letting them figure it out. However, if the situation is serious enough, he will outright inform people of ''exactly'' what they need to do.
** Harry's older alternate counterpart, 'Nathan', takes this approach when dealing with his younger self when they meet, refusing to spoon-feed him, only elaborating once Harry's well on the right track. That said, this is partly because he's not entirely sure how much of his future applies to Harry's timeline, since their timelines diverged years before the start of the series.
* ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'' features this in to some degree in the form of both the Patronus and the True Patronus. While some instruction can be helpful for both, the feeling you use to fuel the spell must be organic and something meaningful to you in particular. The True Patronus is even more extreme in this regard, which makes Harry unwilling to share its secret with others, as it requires knowledge of the true nature of dementors. However, knowing the true nature of dementors renders you permanently unable to cast the normal version of the Patronus charm, and because of the nature of the True Patronus, you need a particular mindset to cast it which most people lack. Harry realizes after casting the True Patronus that he wasn't the first person to figure out the true nature of dementors, but those who had figured it out previously had kept quiet about it to avoid destroying people's ability to cast the ordinary version of the charm.

-->'''Mask''': "If I had to beat up the creep on my own, so do you."

* After the four retrieve the first piece of the Vasyn in ''Fanfic/WithStringsAttached'' and the Fans “call” to congratulate them, George asks why his ring stuck, and Ringo asks whether he actually teleported or the Fans saved him. Jeft says ~THESE ARE NOT THINGS WE CAN TELL YOU. YOU MUST FIND OUT FOR YOURSELVES.~ To which George, reasonably enough, cries “Rubbish! How're we supposed to find this bloody thing for you if our magic goes haywire for no reason?” Shag is equally annoyed at Jeft for holding out on the four, and answers their questions for them. (At which Jeft sniffs, ~ARE WE QUITE FINISHED SPOILING MYSTERIES?~)
** Immediately after they leave the four, Jeft gives Shag a series of good reasons why he didn't want to answer the questions. She grudgingly agrees that he was right and she was wrong.
*** [[spoiler: His reasons are all garbage; he really did want to preserve the mysteries in the story, since it's all a game he cooked up.]]

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* No one can be told what Franchise/TheMatrix is, [[InvokedTrope you have to see it for yourself]].

* This trope defines the plot of book four of the Literature/EnchantedForestChronicles. The [[FisherKing king]] of the Enchanted Forest carries a magical sword that OnlyTheChosenMayWield, the chosen being a member of the king's bloodline. This becomes a problem when the current king is trapped in a [[TailorMadePrison magical prison]] and the only thing that can free him is . . . Yep, the sword. The good news is that the king, before he was imprisoned, fathered a son, who should by rights be able to wield the sword. The bad news is that that son is only a baby. To make matters worse, the [[LegionOfDoom Wizards]], who imprisoned the king, can track the sword when it's being carried by someone ''who knows what it is''. The solution: wait for the son to grow up, give him the sword, and point him in the direction of the prison in the hope that he will figure out what he has to do himself. Consequently, most everyone he encounters knows more about his quest than he does, but can't tell him anything for fear of the Wizards finding him.

* A rare TearJerker example of this in Donna Tartt's ''Literature/{{TheGoldfinch}}'', when the protagonist finally meets his beloved mother (who tragically died) in a dream:

*** While the PowerTrio is on the road trying to figure out what they have to do, Hermione suggested this trope as a rationale for why they had to do something while LampshadeHanging how little sense it makes. Later on, when Harry turned the same rationale on her for a different goal, she admitted that she didn't really believe it and was just trying to get her way in the first place. [[spoiler:Of course, Harry turns out right anyway]].

* L.E. Modesitt's ''Literature/SagaOfRecluce'' series has a particularly ridiculous case of this. Order mages are usually "trained" by giving them a near-incomprehensible textbook and sending them off into danger. Why? Because, for no apparent reason, actually explaining things prevents mages from applying what they were told. Even though the explanations make perfect sense to the reader.
** Of course, the ordermages who are "trained" in this fashion usually either [[JustifiedTrope refused to learn the normal way or are the first ordermages in the area]]. In addition, the people doing the exiling do it primarily to [[MikeNelsonDestroyerofWorlds protect everyone else on the island]], and the "textbook" is the semi-incoherent journal of one of the former exiles.
* In ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'', the eponymous antagonist uses this after dropping a few oblique hints so a smuggler captain he wants to come to a particular conclusion doesn't get suspicious.

-->'''Hobbie:''' "Do to them what you do to us at times like that. [...] Tell them ''what'' you're doing but not ''why''. Then let them speculate. Listen to them as they speculate. When they come up with an idea you really, really like, [[AscendedFanon tell them 'You finally guessed right. That was my reasoning all along.']]"

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* In an episode of the 2000s ContinuityReboot of ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'' when the character Six gets Baltar to tell Commander Adama he needs an atom bomb to find possible Cylons, and Six tells him, "figure out the rest yourself."
** Of course, it was this very bomb that enabled the ''Cylons'' to find the ''humans'' once they had settled on New Caprica.
* The Doctor from ''Series/DoctorWho'' and Sailor Pluto from ''Franchise/SailorMoon'' both invoke the "changing the future" excuse.
* Should you ever find yourself in ''Series/FraggleRock'' and [[WanderingMinstrel Cantus the Minstrel]] happens to be around, ask him for some advice. He'll give it freely, but it's so cryptic that you ''have'' to FigureItOutYourself. This quirk of his has been lampshaded on several occasions.

* God does this in pretty much every episode of ''Series/JoanOfArcadia''.

-->'''Adrian Monk:''' I wanna make sure I understand this. I have a problem... you know the answer...
-->'''Dr. Charles Kroger:''' That's right.
-->'''Adrian Monk:''' I'm paying you...
-->'''Dr. Charles Kroger:''' That's right.
-->'''Adrian Monk:''' ...but you won't tell me.
-->'''Dr. Charles Kroger:''' That's right. Adrian, the answer is inside you.
-->'''Adrian Monk:''' No, doctor, the... answer is inside you. If you told me, I would hear it, and then the answer would be inside me!
* Dimitria spent the first half of ''Series/PowerRangersTurbo'' doing this (her species could ''only talk in questions,'' supposedly, though fellow "Inquirian" Visceron didn't have this problem), only to drop this practice when the four veteran Rangers- probably more experienced at this sort of thing than she was- were retired and replaced, at which point she got a lot more direct.
** [[DontExplainTheJoke Get it?]] Because it sounds like inquiry/inquire? Question?
* Lampshaded in an early episode of ''Series/RedDwarf'', with the 'Holly Hop Drive'

* It's a recurring part of the Ancients' schtick in ''Series/StargateSG1'', and a lot of what makes the Tollans so annoying.
** Nicely explained concerning the issue of ascension. The Ancients believe people should learn how to do it themselves (after all, ''they'' did), while the Ori promise to ascend followers for them ([[TheCakeIsALie which is actually a lie]], but no one knew it at the time). While Daniel is usually frustrated by the Ancients and their lack of helpfulness (they are NeglectfulPrecursors and don't even clean up messes they made, let alone help in other basic non-ascension ways), he once spoke in their defence to stop people from following the Ori:
--->'''Daniel:''' You're right. Maybe...hoarding knowledge is wrong. Or maybe it's not. Maybe learning something for yourself is part of the journey to enlightenment.

** In one episode, a visitor from the future arrives on the ''Enterprise'' right at the time when Picard has to make a decision with the fate of an entire planet at stake. Picard asks the time traveler for help, but he naturally refuses, pointing out that influence past decisions would risk destroying his own timeline. [[spoiler: In an interesting subversion, it turns out that the time traveler actually refused because he had ''no idea'' what was going to happen. He was actually from the ''past'' and had stolen the time machine.]]

--->"In any case, I'll be watching. And if you're very lucky, I'll drop by to say hello from time to time. See you... out there!"

* ''Series/BlakesSeven'':
** MasterComputer Zen refuses to tell the protagonists how to work the instruments on the ''Liberator'', but implies that they must learn through experience. This means they nearly get killed working out WhatDoesThisButtonDo to operate the teleport system or pilot the alien spaceship. However it's later revealed that the ''Liberator'' was built by another MasterComputer that later [[AIIsACrapshoot enslaved its own creators]], so Zen would be aware of the consequences of people becoming too dependent on their machines.
** MagicalComputer Orac similarly showed this attitude in "[[Recap/BlakesSevenS4E4Stardrive Stardrive]]". He was shown a video of several ships exploding, immediately saw why they were exploding but refused to tell anyone because he was "not interested in attempting to compensate for [their] amazing lack of observation" thereby forcing them to watch the video frame-by-frame until they found it.

* In the case of the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series, it's obvious what the real reason is that Phoenix Wright (and Apollo) have to figure everything out for themselves. After all, it wouldn't be much of a game if they kept telling you how to solve the problems. In-universe, however, it's kind of strange how everyone, including his mentor Mia, refuses to give any advice at trials more helpful than sometimes-vague hints. Apparently, Phoenix's growth as a lawyer is more important than making sure his innocent client doesn't get convicted of murder, even if that client is Mia's little sister.
** Phoenix in fact questions Mia's motive for being so secretive about the outcome on one occasion. In the second case of ''Justice for All'', she tells him that if he can't answer her questions, he won't stand a chance against Franziska in court.
** Miles Edgeworth tells Phoenix in ''Justice for All'' that he has to decide for himself what being an attorney means. It's suggested that he doesn't tell Phoenix what he considers to be the right answer -- to reveal the truth -- because Maya is being held hostage to force Phoenix to get an acquittal for his very-much-guilty client.
** Ema Skye uses the phrase directly in the 4th game, regarding Phoenix's loss of his badge.
* ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaTriggerHappyHavoc'': Kirigiri and Togami both pull this regularly. Kirigiri justifies it with the idea that Naegi needs to learn how to solve cases on his own in case [[AnyoneCanDie anything happens to her]], while also wanting to avoid her preconceived notions influencing the investigation. Perhaps more pragmatically, she also has to worry about giving out more than anyone needs to know on the off-chance that one of the other students might be the BigBad ([[spoiler:[[ProperlyParanoid which turns out to be the case]], just not in the way she thought]]). Togami, meanwhile... he's just a {{Jerkass}} who wants to flaunt his intellect in a show of power, since to him [[ThisIsACompetition the game is a life-or-death struggle that he intends to win]]. In the second case he actively hinders the investigation in order to smoke out people smart enough to be a threat to him.

* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' has Auron say pretty much exactly this.
-->'''Rikku:''' Hey, you know something, don't you? Spill the beans!\\

* At one point in ''VideoGame/LightningReturnsFinalFantasyXIII'', when Lightning tires of her riddles and wordplay and outright asks Lumina what the hell she's talking about, Lumina's response is that Lightning has to figure it out herself or else it won't mean anything. [[spoiler:Considering that Lumina is actually an aspect of Lightning's personality that she cast off, this isn't necessarily off the mark.]]
* Inverted in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories''. Axel explicitly offers Sora a hint as to what's going on in Castle Oblivion, but Sora turns him down, stating that he'd rather figure it out himself.

* In ''VideoGame/{{Mother 3}}'', this is more-or-less what Wess tells Duster when sending him to get the [[spoiler:Egg of Light]]. Naturally, being told ''only'' to get a shiny thing in the nearby ancient castle, with no more details than that, backfires, but Wess simply blames Duster for the mistake.

* The entirety of ''VideoGame/{{Riven}}'' is an instance of FigureItOutYourself. Atrus is too busy to explain the situation before sending you off, so he gives you a wondrously cryptic journal, assuring you that "most of what you'll need to know is in there". He does mention that he can't supply you with an escape hatch, "for reasons you'll discover". And he tells you to signal him when you've accomplished your mission, but doesn't tell you how ...
** Arguably, the [[VideoGame/{{Myst}} entire series]] is based on this.

* The Star Tablet keepers of the ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}'' series tend to do this a lot, much to said Stars' annoyance.
** Most notably, [[VideoGame/SuikodenV Zerase]] and her {{Expy}} [[VideoGame/SuikodenTierkreis Zenoa]], who practically brag about their knowledge and ridicule you for asking questions of them.

* This is integral to Jonathan Blow's approach to designing games. He says he enjoys the "aha!" moment when he finally works out how to progress in a game, and wants people who play his games to experience that pleasure for themselves, refusing to release walkthroughs or help guides for that reason. He's also said that this is why he doesn't enjoy playing most games, because they tell him exactly how to play.
* The ''VideoGame/DemonsSouls'', ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'', and ''VideoGame/{{Bloodborne}}'' are rather notorious for this. The games will only go so far as to explain the basic controls, but in terms of telling you where to go or how to fight the bosses, well, you'll have to figure that out yourself. Over and over and over...

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-->'''Conductor''': Yep. I had a feeling he was a T-Rex.
* On ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}'', Angelica could be found repeatedly [[ParentalBonus reciting the Louis Armstrong quote]] to the babies.
** [[HilariousInHindsight That just made the time they camped out a lot funnier.]] Angelica said, "We couldn't sleep 'cause of the [[BigfootSasquatchAndYeti Sachmo]]."

--> '''Mr. E''': Where's the fun in that?

A more extreme version of CannotSpitItOut, this trope occurs when one character reasonably asks for information and another character simply refuses.

Often characters who really shouldn't have any motives to [[PoorCommunicationKills keep this information secret]] from the character do this. It may be merely to pad out the season, or if the person is TheChooserOfTheOne it may be a test to see if the character is in fact worthy of the title of chosen one. Though they frequently claim that making the hero work through things by himself is a necessary learning experience, it may be just because [[LovesSecrecy they enjoy]] [[DelightingInRiddles keeping him in the dark]].

Commonly uttered by [[TimeTravel Time Travellers]] since solving people's problems for them would change history... [[TimeyWimeyBall except when it doesn't.]] TimeTravel is funny that way.

It's also a stock phrase for the AllPowerfulBystander. The TricksterMentor never ''says'' it, but [[TheOnlyWayTheyWillLearn you know he's thinking it]]; the ZenSurvivor practically ''breathes'' in these. An OracularUrchin will get out of de-cryptifying their CrypticConversation with the hero this way. Likewise heroes and super heroes with a SecretLegacy might be overjoyed to find out they're not the black sheep of their family, but wonder why mom and dad never helped out before.

** Obviously it can be sufficiently defined since they wouldn't be able to talk about it otherwise.
*** The word qualia can; individual qualia can't. That's basically what the word is defined as: "Things which cannot be accurately defined."

* ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' uses this with protagonist Izuki Midoriya's super-power One For All. Though the previous wielder All Might mentors Izuku and teaches him what he can, ultimately he encourages Izuku to figure out his own way of using it -- especially because when Izuku imitates All Might's fighting style, he ends up [[HeroicRROD breaking his bones]] and risking permanent, crippling injuries. [[spoiler:Eventually he does find his own way, which he dubs "One For All Full Cowl", which involves spreading about 5% the power evenly throughout his own body rather than doing 100% all-or-nothing attacks; he also adopts a kick-heavy fighting style to avoid risking more strain to his arms.]]

* Despite the obvious worry of ''Manga/PrincessNine'''s lead about the truth of her late father cheating in a baseball game, none of the characters who admit to knowing will tell her. She is later inexplicably convinced by her own ''bizarre dream sequence''.

* In an episode of the 2000s {{reboot}} of ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'' when the character Six gets Baltar to tell Commander Adama he needs an atom bomb to find possible Cylons, and Six tells him, "figure out the rest yourself."

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** Part of Karkat's aggravation stems from the fact that John is, essentially, doing the very same thing to him.