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26th Jan '18 4:29:01 PM Totema
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* Liliana Vess in TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering, who made a deal with four archdemons from throughout the multiverse for immortality. She's killed two so far and is currently seeking out the other two. For extra hilarity, she killed the first archdemon with the very artifact (the Chain Veil) that he ordered her to bring to him. It apparently never occurred to the demon that Liliana might pull a stunt like this, or that the Veil would give her the power to pull it off.

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* Liliana Vess in TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering, who made a deal with four archdemons from throughout the multiverse for immortality. She's killed two three so far and is currently seeking out the other two.last one. For extra hilarity, she killed the first archdemon with the very artifact (the Chain Veil) that he ordered her to bring to him. It apparently never occurred to the demon that Liliana might pull a stunt like this, or that the Veil would give her the power to pull it off.
15th Jan '18 3:23:04 PM Angeldeb82
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[[caption-width-right:350:Spawn would like to show the Devil where he can shove his [[DealWithTheDevil deal]].]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:Spawn would like to show the Devil where he can shove his [[DealWithTheDevil deal]].{{deal|WithTheDevil}}.]]



The first component of this trope is that a DealWithTheDevil ''must'' be made, an [[MagicallyBindingContract agreement]] between the protagonist and an evil figure.[[note]]Even the TropeNamer, ''{{Literature/Faust}}'', substitutes the archdemon Mephistopheles for the capital 'D' devil.[[/note]] JackassGenie interpretation of the contract is optional.

The second component of this trope is that the protagonist gains some sort of power from this agreement. Usually, these powers are [[BadPowersBadPeople part of the villain's evil theme.]]

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The first component of this trope is that a DealWithTheDevil ''must'' be made, an [[MagicallyBindingContract agreement]] between the protagonist and an evil figure.[[note]]Even the TropeNamer, {{Trope Namer|s}}, ''{{Literature/Faust}}'', substitutes the archdemon Mephistopheles for the capital 'D' devil.[[/note]] JackassGenie interpretation of the contract is optional.

The second component of this trope is that the protagonist gains some sort of power from this agreement. Usually, these powers are [[BadPowersBadPeople part of the villain's evil theme.]]
theme]].



SubTrope to CreateYourOwnHero and DealWithTheDevil. See also HoistByHisOwnPetard, PhlebotinumRebel, and DarkIsNotEvil. A [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] of EvilIsNotAToy. Compare ProHumanTranshuman. Contrast ThePunishment (where the powers were gained as a result of torture/curse).

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SubTrope to CreateYourOwnHero and DealWithTheDevil. See also HoistByHisOwnPetard, PhlebotinumRebel, and DarkIsNotEvil. A [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] {{subver|tedTrope}}sion of EvilIsNotAToy. Compare ProHumanTranshuman. Contrast ThePunishment (where the powers were gained as a result of torture/curse).



* ''{{LightNovel/Slayers}}'' has [[BlackMage "Black Magic"]] (as well as [[WhiteMage White Magic]]), which come from the local equivalent of Satan and his subordinates. It is explicitly noted and shown that black magic ''does not work'' against the ones who give the powers. So instead, Lina calls upon ''more powerful'' monsters in order to kill whatever she's facing. This is a problem because the ultimate Black Magic spell has a nonzero chance of accidentally and irrevocably releasing that monster and destroying the world. Yes, she casts it...

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* ''{{LightNovel/Slayers}}'' has [[BlackMage "Black Magic"]] (as well as [[WhiteMage White Magic]]), {{White Mag|e}}ic), which come from the local equivalent of Satan and his subordinates. It is explicitly noted and shown that black magic ''does not work'' against the ones who give the powers. So instead, Lina calls upon ''more powerful'' monsters in order to kill whatever she's facing. This is a problem because the ultimate Black Magic spell has a nonzero chance of accidentally and irrevocably releasing that monster and destroying the world. Yes, she casts it...



** To Ares' minor credit [[spoiler:when the fight with Kratos starts to go against him he ''does'' remove Kratos' powers and weapons, and if it hadn't been for a conveniently placed giant sword, he would have killed Kratos.]]
* Averted in ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed''; Sonic's Werehog form is the result of Sonic inadvertently absorbing some of Dark Gaia's essence, and Sonic spends most of the game using the form to beat up Dark Gaia's minions. Before he gets a chance to fight the big guy, however, it takes back the essence from Sonic, robbing him of the Werehog form.

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** To Ares' minor credit [[spoiler:when the fight with Kratos starts to go against him he ''does'' remove Kratos' powers and weapons, and if it hadn't been for a conveniently placed giant sword, he would have killed Kratos.]]
Kratos]].
* Averted in ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed''; ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed'': Sonic's Werehog form is the result of Sonic inadvertently absorbing some of Dark Gaia's essence, and Sonic spends most of the game using the form to beat up Dark Gaia's minions. Before he gets a chance to fight the big guy, however, it takes back the essence from Sonic, robbing him of the Werehog form.



** Miranda also performs one if she's taken along during the final leg of the Suicide Mission. She informs the Illusive Man that she's ''not'' going to stop Shepard from [[spoiler:destroying the Collector Base]], this is her ''[[DefectorFromDecadence resignation]]'' from Cerberus and promptly ''[[ShutUpHannibal hangs up]]'' when he begins [[VillainousBreakdown furious ranting.]] For extra irony, during Project Lazarus she wanted to install a MindControl chip in Shepard's brain to make him/her subservient to Cerberus only for the Illusive Man to veto her due to the aforementioned reasons.

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** Miranda also performs one if she's taken along during the final leg of the Suicide Mission. She informs the Illusive Man that she's ''not'' going to stop Shepard from [[spoiler:destroying the Collector Base]], this is her ''[[DefectorFromDecadence resignation]]'' from Cerberus Cerberus; and promptly ''[[ShutUpHannibal hangs up]]'' when he begins [[VillainousBreakdown furious ranting.]] ranting]]. For extra irony, during Project Lazarus she wanted to install a MindControl chip in Shepard's brain to make him/her subservient to Cerberus only for the Illusive Man to veto her due to the aforementioned reasons.



* Cynder from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyro'' did this to some degree. Once Spyro sets her free from Malefor's spell, she retains enough of his darkness to use four elements no other dragon can; Shadow, Poison, Wind, and Fear. How does she use these powers? Why to fight Malefor's evil army and help Spyro kick his butt of course! [[spoiler:Though said darkness does let him take over her mind to some degree, but he has to drive her over the DespairEventHorizon first and the PowerOfLove is an effective antidote.]]

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* Cynder from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyro'' did this to some degree. Once Spyro sets her free from Malefor's spell, she retains enough of his darkness to use four elements no other dragon can; Shadow, Poison, Wind, and Fear. How does she use these powers? Why Why, to fight Malefor's evil army and help Spyro kick his butt of course! [[spoiler:Though said darkness does let him take over her mind to some degree, but he has to drive her over the DespairEventHorizon first and the PowerOfLove ThePowerOfLove is an effective antidote.]]



* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'': In the true ending, [[spoiler:{{Big Bad}} Izanami is defeated by the protagonist, after she gave him his powers at the beginning of the game.]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'': In the true ending, [[spoiler:{{Big Bad}} [[spoiler:BigBad Izanami is defeated by the protagonist, after she gave him his powers at the beginning of the game.]]



* Although not a DealWithTheDevil per say, [[spoiler:Specter Knight's]] betrayal of the Enchantress in ShovelKnight definitely counts. To recap, she tried to stop him from retrieving a powerful artifact[[spoiler: and their fight led to his best friend's death]], forced him to accept a terrible deal, killed him, mocked him, and used TheCorruption on [[spoiler:his best friend's son]].When he gets fed up with her, he beats her [[spoiler:and her most powerful servant]] to a pulp. Sadly, [[spoiler: he had to serve her forever in exchange for purifying his late companion´s corrupted son.]]

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* Although not a DealWithTheDevil per say, [[spoiler:Specter Knight's]] betrayal of the Enchantress in ShovelKnight definitely counts. To recap, she tried to stop him from retrieving a powerful artifact[[spoiler: artifact [[spoiler: and their fight led to his best friend's death]], forced him to accept a terrible deal, killed him, mocked him, and used TheCorruption on [[spoiler:his best friend's son]].son]]. When he gets fed up with her, he beats her [[spoiler:and her most powerful servant]] to a pulp. Sadly, [[spoiler: he had to serve her forever in exchange for purifying his late companion´s corrupted son.]]
* ''VideoGame/{{Cuphead}}'' can play the trope straight (although Cuphead and Mugman get the powers of the Peashooter potion from the Elder Kettle): Toward the end of the game, [[spoiler:refusing to hand over the Soul Contracts [[{{Satan}} the Devil]] sent the boys out to collect has them fighting him.
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Panthera}}'', after it's revealed that [[spoiler:Ari is actually Oosterhuis, Panthera wastes no time in transforming and getting ready to kick ass.]]

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* In ''Webcomic/{{Panthera}}'', after it's revealed that [[spoiler:Ari is actually Oosterhuis, Panthera wastes no time in transforming and getting ready to kick ass.]]ass]].
8th Jan '18 8:16:54 PM h31r-of-l1f3
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* Although not a DealWithTheDevil per say, [[spoiler:Specter Knight's]] betrayal of the Enchantress in ShovelKnight definitely counts. To recap, she tried to stop him from retrieving a powerful artifact[[spoiler: and their fight led to his best friend's death]], forced him to accept a terrible deal, killed him, mocked him, and used TheCorruption on [[spoiler:his best friend's son]].When he gets fed up with her, he beats her [[spoiler:and her most powerful servant]] to a pulp. Sadly, [[spoiler: he had to serve her forever in exchange for purifying his late companion´s corrupted son.]]
16th Dec '17 3:31:41 AM MarqFJA
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SubTrope to CreateYourOwnHero. See also HoistByHisOwnPetard, PhlebotinumRebel, and DarkIsNotEvil. A [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] of EvilIsNotAToy. Compare ProHumanTranshuman. Contrast ThePunishment (where the powers were gained as a result of torture/curse).

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SubTrope to CreateYourOwnHero.CreateYourOwnHero and DealWithTheDevil. See also HoistByHisOwnPetard, PhlebotinumRebel, and DarkIsNotEvil. A [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] of EvilIsNotAToy. Compare ProHumanTranshuman. Contrast ThePunishment (where the powers were gained as a result of torture/curse).
16th Dec '17 3:30:17 AM MarqFJA
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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' have the Incubators, which are a race of creatures (of which we only see one, calling itself Kyubey) so amoral that they are just as dangerous as if they were passively malicious. They offer the ability to grant one wish to young girls, one wish that rewrites the laws of reality. But in payment, those girls must become {{Magical Girl}}s and fight evil witches ([[spoiler:who are just magical girls that have become "impure" from using up too much magic]]).

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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' have the Incubators, which are a race of creatures (of which we only see one, calling itself Kyubey) so amoral that they are just as dangerous as if they were passively malicious. They offer the ability to grant one wish to young girls, one wish that rewrites the laws of reality. But in payment, those girls must become {{Magical Girl}}s and fight evil witches ([[spoiler:who are just magical girls that have become "impure" from either using up too much magic]]).magic or going over the DespairEventHorizon, the latter being [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption an inevitability]] due to the flawed nature of each girl's wish]]).
15th Dec '17 10:45:54 AM infernape612
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* In ''Literature/SailorNothing'', [[spoiler:Himei and all of the Sailors were given their extremely effective Yamiko-killing powers by a rebel Yamiko general... who was easily dispatched via the same powers when he rejoined the Yamiko.]]. Of course, being [[{{Deconstruction}} the story it is]], there are more reasons too.

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* In ''Literature/SailorNothing'', [[spoiler:Himei and all of the Sailors were given their extremely effective Yamiko-killing powers by a rebel Yamiko general... who was easily dispatched via the same powers when he rejoined the Yamiko.]].Yamiko]]. Of course, being [[{{Deconstruction}} the story it is]], there are more reasons too.
27th Nov '17 4:01:03 PM nombretomado
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* "That Hell-Bound Train" is a fantasy short story by Creator/RobertBloch from 1958 that won the HugoAward in 1959. Martin makes a DealWithTheDevil that he would be able to stop time for himself whenever he wanted. In other words, once he found a point in his life he enjoyed, that happy moment would last forever for him. He found out that TheDevil had tricked him, others have tried this wish, but they never found the perfect moment, always waiting for something better, until they died. Martin [[spoiler:dies and has to ride the Hell-Bound Train with the Devil to Hell. At that point, knowing Hell awaits and enjoying the company of minor sinners (gambling, sex, etc.) all having their last and greatest time, Martin stops time on the train, trapping everyone there (including the Devil) forever]].

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* "That Hell-Bound Train" is a fantasy short story by Creator/RobertBloch from 1958 that won the HugoAward UsefulNotes/HugoAward in 1959. Martin makes a DealWithTheDevil that he would be able to stop time for himself whenever he wanted. In other words, once he found a point in his life he enjoyed, that happy moment would last forever for him. He found out that TheDevil had tricked him, others have tried this wish, but they never found the perfect moment, always waiting for something better, until they died. Martin [[spoiler:dies and has to ride the Hell-Bound Train with the Devil to Hell. At that point, knowing Hell awaits and enjoying the company of minor sinners (gambling, sex, etc.) all having their last and greatest time, Martin stops time on the train, trapping everyone there (including the Devil) forever]].
3rd Nov '17 10:03:27 AM thatother1dude
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** {{Doubled Subver|sion}}ted by Terra: Slade taught her to control her powers in exchange for becoming his apprentice. She considering leaving him once, but Slade talks her into coming back. Then he takes the precaution of have her wear a ClingyCostume which allows him to [[PeoplePuppets take control of her body]]. Terra ends up overpowering it and killing Slade.

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** {{Doubled Subver|sion}}ted by Terra: Slade taught her Terra to control her powers in exchange for becoming his apprentice. She considering leaving him once, but When she tries to bail, Slade talks reveals the battle suit he gave her into coming back. Then he takes the precaution of have her wear a ClingyCostume which allows him to [[PeoplePuppets take lets him control of her body]]. Terra ends up overpowering it and killing Slade.directly]]--which motivates Terri to flat-out murder Slade when she overpowers it.
3rd Nov '17 9:58:58 AM thatother1dude
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* In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', Orochimaru is the first [[CardCarryingVillain evil-for-the-sake-of-evil]] introduced, and he curses Naruto and Sasuke during the Chunin exam. Sauske grows more powerful from the curse, and eventually leaves in order to join Orochimaru to become more powerful. Sauske finally betrays Orochimaru many years later. [[spoiler:Instead of killing him, Sasuke ''absorbs'' Orochimaru, becoming even more powerful.]]

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* In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', Orochimaru is the first [[CardCarryingVillain evil-for-the-sake-of-evil]] introduced, and he curses Naruto and puts a {{curse}}s on Sasuke during the Chunin exam. Sauske grows more powerful from the curse, and eventually leaves in order to join Orochimaru to become more powerful. Sauske Sasuke finally betrays Orochimaru many years later. [[spoiler:Instead of killing him, Sasuke ''absorbs'' Orochimaru, becoming even more powerful.]]



* Subverted in ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'', when the demon lord Trigon decides not to honor the deal he made with Slade. Slade angrily attacks him, only for Trigon to laugh and say, "I granted you these powers and I can take them away!" He absorbs the powers out of Slade and makes him disappear. [[spoiler:Eventually it turns out Slade anticipated this treachery and eventually makes an EnemyMine with the Titans to escape Trigon's control and come fully BackFromTheDead, though he still doesn't recover the powers.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'':
** {{Doubled Subver|sion}}ted by Terra: Slade taught her to control her powers in exchange for becoming his apprentice. She considering leaving him once, but Slade talks her into coming back. Then he takes the precaution of have her wear a ClingyCostume which allows him to [[PeoplePuppets take control of her body]]. Terra ends up overpowering it and killing Slade.
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Subverted in ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'', when the demon lord Trigon decides not to honor the deal he made with Slade. Slade angrily attacks him, only for Trigon to laugh and say, "I granted you these powers and I can take them away!" He absorbs the powers out of Slade and makes him disappear. [[spoiler:Eventually it turns out Slade anticipated this treachery and eventually makes an EnemyMine with the Titans to escape Trigon's control and come fully BackFromTheDead, though he still doesn't recover the powers.]]
2nd Nov '17 9:47:12 PM Actua11y
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The second component of this trope is that the protagonist gains some sort of power from this agreement. Usually these powers are [[BadPowersBadPeople part of the villain's evil theme.]]

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The second component of this trope is that the protagonist gains some sort of power from this agreement. Usually Usually, these powers are [[BadPowersBadPeople part of the villain's evil theme.]]



* ''Film/FaustLoveOfTheDamned'': This is the premise of the movie, in which the Faustian character John Jaspers uses his powers to become a superhero, and, in typical b-movie violence, takes on the hordes of Hell. Though to his credit Mephistopheles (known here as "M") is at least smart enough to make it impossible for Jaspers to harm him directly until he releases him from his contract.

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* ''Film/FaustLoveOfTheDamned'': This is the premise of the movie, in which the Faustian character John Jaspers uses his powers to become a superhero, and, in typical b-movie violence, takes on the hordes of Hell. Though to his credit credit, Mephistopheles (known here as "M") is at least smart enough to make it impossible for Jaspers to harm him directly until he releases him from his contract.



* The ''Film/GhostRider'' film plays this trope straight. The Devil offers to remove the power from Blaze, but at no point does he say he can reclaim the Ghost Rider power against the wielder’s will. (And in fact, if he could, [[spoiler:Carter Slade’s ]] rebellion wouldn’t have been possible to begin with.) For the record, he can’t claim Johnny’s soul for refusal to surrender the curse either, as he had specifically contracted that if Johnny [[spoiler:defeated Blackheart]], his soul would be freed, with no other conditions mentioned.

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* The ''Film/GhostRider'' film plays this trope straight. The Devil offers to remove the power from Blaze, but at no point does he say he can reclaim the Ghost Rider power against the wielder’s will. (And in fact, if he could, [[spoiler:Carter Slade’s ]] rebellion wouldn’t have been possible possible, to begin with.) For the record, he can’t claim Johnny’s soul for refusal to surrender the curse either, as he had specifically contracted that if Johnny [[spoiler:defeated Blackheart]], his soul would be freed, with no other conditions mentioned.



** Similarily, what Warlocks mostly do is make the Burning Legion and its fel energy turn on itself. In fact, a big part of warlock [=PCs=] lore is that they are pretty much always an example of BadPowersGoodPeople, or else they would have gone rogue.

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** Similarily, Similarly, what Warlocks mostly do is make the Burning Legion and its fel energy turn on itself. In fact, a big part of warlock [=PCs=] lore is that they are pretty much always an example of BadPowersGoodPeople, or else they would have gone rogue.
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