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15th Oct '17 7:57:59 PM FordPrefect
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* Incredibly common among the [=PCs=] in ''TabletopGame/{{Deadlands}}''. Heroic [[MagiciansAreWizards Hucksters]] tend to be more common than villainous ones, thanks in no small part to the fact that they don't so much deal with devils as [[CardSharp gamble with them for power]]. MadScience (which comes from the same source as Huckster Magic), is behind the creation of the [[InfinityPlusOneSword Holy Wheel Gun]]. But Hucksters and [[MadScientist Mad Scientists]] pale in comparison to the [[EverythingsDeaderWithZombies The Harrowed]] who have [[BackFromTheDead their]] [[DemonicPossession own]] [[BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind problems]] [[StagesOfMonsterGrief to deal]] [[FightingFromTheInside with]].
** Mad Scientists are somewhat of a subversion though. Once one of them comes up with the idea of splitting the Ghost Rock Atom (basically creating magical nukes capable of reducing the world to slag), the Demons giving them their creativity/power immediately stop giving and Mad Scientist the ability to make anything *except* these Nukes. Sort of a "Lets make all their wild plans come true until one comes up with something suitably destructive, then we'll give it (and nothing else) to everyone"

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* Incredibly common among the [=PCs=] in ''TabletopGame/{{Deadlands}}''. Heroic [[MagiciansAreWizards Hucksters]] tend to be more common than villainous ones, thanks in no small part to the fact that they don't so much deal with devils as [[CardSharp gamble with them for power]]. MadScience (which comes from the same source as Huckster Magic), Magic) is behind the creation of the [[InfinityPlusOneSword Holy Wheel Gun]]. But Hucksters and [[MadScientist Mad Scientists]] pale in comparison to the [[EverythingsDeaderWithZombies The Harrowed]] who have [[BackFromTheDead their]] [[DemonicPossession own]] [[BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind problems]] [[StagesOfMonsterGrief to deal]] [[FightingFromTheInside with]].
** Mad Scientists are somewhat of a subversion subversion, though. Once one of them comes up with the idea of splitting the Ghost Rock Atom (basically creating magical nukes capable of reducing the world to slag), the Demons giving them their creativity/power immediately stop giving and any Mad Scientist the ability to make anything *except* ''except'' these Nukes. Sort of a "Lets "Let's make all their wild plans come true until one comes up with something suitably destructive, then we'll give it (and nothing else) to everyone"everyone."
12th Aug '17 1:33:44 PM nombretomado
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* Averted in ''SonicUnleashed''; Sonic's Werehog form is the result of Sonic inadvertently absorbing some of Dark Gaia's essence, and Sonic spends most of the game using the form to beat up Dark Gaia's minions. Before he gets a chance to fight the big guy, however, it takes back the essence from Sonic, robbing him of the Werehog form.

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* Averted in ''SonicUnleashed''; ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed''; Sonic's Werehog form is the result of Sonic inadvertently absorbing some of Dark Gaia's essence, and Sonic spends most of the game using the form to beat up Dark Gaia's minions. Before he gets a chance to fight the big guy, however, it takes back the essence from Sonic, robbing him of the Werehog form.
19th Jul '17 9:36:55 PM Firebrand96
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Just as the story of Lucifer is about [[FaceHeelTurn betrayal,]] so can we expect the devil to be [[DramaticIrony betrayed in turn.]]

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Just as the story of Lucifer is about [[FaceHeelTurn betrayal,]] betrayal]], so can we expect the devil to be [[DramaticIrony [[LaserGuidedKarma betrayed in turn.]]
turn]].
19th Jul '17 9:36:03 PM Firebrand96
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Just as the story of Lucifer is about [[FaceHeelTurn betrayal,]] so can we expect the devil to be [[HeelFaceTurn betrayed in turn.]]

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Just as the story of Lucifer is about [[FaceHeelTurn betrayal,]] so can we expect the devil to be [[HeelFaceTurn [[DramaticIrony betrayed in turn.]]
13th Jul '17 8:53:26 PM thatother1dude
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* Subverted in ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'', when the demon lord Trigon decides not to honor the deal he made with Slade. Slade angrily attacks him, only for Trigon to laugh and say, "I granted you these powers and I can take them away!" He absorbs the powers out of Slade and makes him disappear. [[spoiler:Eventually it turns out Slade anticipated this treachery and eventually makes an EnemyMine with the Titans to escape Trigon's control, though he still doesn't recover the powers.]]

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* Subverted in ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'', when the demon lord Trigon decides not to honor the deal he made with Slade. Slade angrily attacks him, only for Trigon to laugh and say, "I granted you these powers and I can take them away!" He absorbs the powers out of Slade and makes him disappear. [[spoiler:Eventually it turns out Slade anticipated this treachery and eventually makes an EnemyMine with the Titans to escape Trigon's control, control and come fully BackFromTheDead, though he still doesn't recover the powers.]]
13th May '17 9:20:40 PM Ashybuttons
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* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'': In the true ending, [[spoiler: {{Big Bad}} Izanami is defeated by the protagonist, after she gave him his powers at the beginning of the game.]]
25th Apr '17 5:36:01 PM WillKeaton
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* The film version of Film/LittleShopOfHorrors, as opposed to [[Theatre/LittleShopOfHorrors the stage version]], which is a straight DealWithTheDevil story.

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* The film version of Film/LittleShopOfHorrors, ''Film/LittleShopOfHorrors'', as opposed to [[Theatre/LittleShopOfHorrors the stage version]], which is a straight DealWithTheDevil story.
9th Apr '17 1:27:58 PM nombretomado
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* In ''SailorNothing'', [[spoiler:Himei and all of the Sailors were given their extremely effective Yamiko-killing powers by a rebel Yamiko general... who was easily dispatched via the same powers when he rejoined the Yamiko.]]. Of course, being [[{{Deconstruction}} the story it is]], there are more reasons too.

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* In ''SailorNothing'', ''Literature/SailorNothing'', [[spoiler:Himei and all of the Sailors were given their extremely effective Yamiko-killing powers by a rebel Yamiko general... who was easily dispatched via the same powers when he rejoined the Yamiko.]]. Of course, being [[{{Deconstruction}} the story it is]], there are more reasons too.
14th Mar '17 9:26:23 PM Kotomikun
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** And as for, well, [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]], this trope gets [[ZigZaggingTrope twisted around itself]]. [[spoiler:The Incubators attempt to take down the inconvenient new god of goodness, using Homura as an elaborate trap; they are OutGambitted and defeated. But in order to stop them permanently--and because of her overprotectiveness towards Madoka--Homura decides to become ''another'' SatanicArchetype, ruling over a new universe with Madoka reverted to a normal human and the Incubators completely powerless. Whether there will be yet another rebellion against her remains to be seen.]]

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** And as for, well, [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]], ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'', this trope gets [[ZigZaggingTrope twisted around itself]]. [[spoiler:The Incubators attempt to take down the inconvenient new god of goodness, using Homura as an elaborate trap; they are OutGambitted and defeated. But in order to stop them permanently--and because of her overprotectiveness towards Madoka--Homura decides to become ''another'' SatanicArchetype, ruling over a new universe with Madoka reverted to a normal human and the Incubators completely powerless. Whether there will be yet another rebellion against her remains to be seen.]]
14th Mar '17 9:25:59 PM Kotomikun
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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' have the Kyubey, which are a race of creatures so amoral that they are just as dangerous as if they were passively malicious. They offer the ability to grant one wish to young girls, one wish that rewrites the laws of reality. But in payment, those girls must become {{Magical Girl}}s and fight evil witches ([[spoiler:who are just magical girls that have become "impure" from using up too much magic]]).
** Homura Akemi is a magical girl the Kyubey have given the special power of [[spoiler: time-travel]]. She's trying to stop the Kyubey from granting Madoka a wish. Using her special power multiple times causes the titular character to have an excess of "magical girl power". The Kyubey says she could cause a very powerful wish to resolve because of this energy. Homura Akemi hates hearing that, and outright kills several Kyubey in her efforts to prevent Madoka's transformation.
** Madoka gets no special information about this rebellion by Homura, but eventually uses her contract to eliminate the dangers posed by the Kyubey by wishing [[spoiler:to erase every single witch (past, present, ''and'' future) from existence, thereby keeping all Magical Girls from becoming witches themselves. Reality becomes [[CosmicRetcon a bit unstable]] and unfortunately, her wish doesn't come [[RetGone without a price]].]]

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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' have the Kyubey, Incubators, which are a race of creatures (of which we only see one, calling itself Kyubey) so amoral that they are just as dangerous as if they were passively malicious. They offer the ability to grant one wish to young girls, one wish that rewrites the laws of reality. But in payment, those girls must become {{Magical Girl}}s and fight evil witches ([[spoiler:who are just magical girls that have become "impure" from using up too much magic]]).
** Homura Akemi is a magical girl the Kyubey have has given the special power of [[spoiler: time-travel]]. She's trying to stop the Kyubey from granting Madoka a wish. Using her special power multiple times causes the titular character to have an excess of "magical girl power". The Kyubey says she could cause a very powerful wish to resolve because of this energy. Homura Akemi hates hearing that, and outright kills several Kyubey of Kyubey's clones in her efforts to prevent Madoka's transformation.
** Madoka gets no special information about this rebellion by Homura, but eventually uses her contract to eliminate the dangers posed by the Kyubey Incubators by wishing [[spoiler:to erase every single witch (past, present, ''and'' future) from existence, thereby keeping all Magical Girls from becoming witches themselves. Reality becomes [[CosmicRetcon a bit unstable]] and unfortunately, her wish doesn't come [[RetGone without a price]].]]


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** And as for, well, [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]], this trope gets [[ZigZaggingTrope twisted around itself]]. [[spoiler:The Incubators attempt to take down the inconvenient new god of goodness, using Homura as an elaborate trap; they are OutGambitted and defeated. But in order to stop them permanently--and because of her overprotectiveness towards Madoka--Homura decides to become ''another'' SatanicArchetype, ruling over a new universe with Madoka reverted to a normal human and the Incubators completely powerless. Whether there will be yet another rebellion against her remains to be seen.]]
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