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6th Nov '17 11:40:37 AM GweiloChinaman
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In the interest of creating a traditional medieval setting, many authors decide not to use guns and other explosives in their works. Sometimes reasons are given for this, and sometimes not. In RealLife, gunpowder and derivative inventions existed for much of the medieval era. This shows up most often in fantasy (hence the name), but can appear in any genre.

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In the interest of creating a traditional medieval setting, many authors decide not to use guns and other explosives in their works. Sometimes reasons are given for this, and sometimes not. In RealLife, gunpowder and derivative inventions have existed for much of since the medieval era.High Middle Ages. This shows up most often in fantasy (hence the name), but can appear in any genre.
1st Nov '17 8:08:05 AM AngelofHel
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* How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom: There aren't guns in this world, not because they don't know how to make them (cannons from the Victorian era exist), but because due to how magic works, bullets are simply not as useful as enchanted arrows or spears - the amount of enchantment you can put on an object is directly related to its size and weight, and weaponry enchantment is nigh-required to break through defensive enchantment, so bullets, despite being fast, are too light to cause damage against foes.
19th Oct '17 4:17:10 PM trixus
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* The BigBadWannabe of ''ComicBook/DungeonTwilight'' try to invert this by executing blacksmiths so his nitro guns become the only weapon available for his father's empire since the army still prefers blades. It doesn't help that he tries doing that before even making sure his nitro guns work.
13th Oct '17 6:25:26 PM TheBigBopper
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In the interest of creating a traditional medieval setting, many authors decide not to use guns and other explosives in their works. Sometimes reasons are given for this, and sometimes not. In RealLife, gunpowder and derivative inventions existed for most of the medieval era. This shows up most often in fantasy (hence the name), but can appear in any genre.

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In the interest of creating a traditional medieval setting, many authors decide not to use guns and other explosives in their works. Sometimes reasons are given for this, and sometimes not. In RealLife, gunpowder and derivative inventions existed for most much of the medieval era. This shows up most often in fantasy (hence the name), but can appear in any genre.
9th Sep '17 8:42:36 PM smjb
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* Thouroughly averted in ''TheWolfAtWestonCourt'', where Faeries at least are highly proficient in the use of (single-shot) pistols and grenades.
31st Aug '17 6:52:49 AM ZemplinTemplar
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* "Common knowledge" about the Middle Ages would cause most people to expect guns would proliferate only in Western Europe at first, but this was untrue already in the late Middle Ages. Among ranged weapons, firearms became almost as characteristic of the era as bows and crossbows. Even a more remote country like Ireland saw firearm usage in the 15th century. The various countries of Central Europe were increasingly adopting firearms since the start of the same century. One of the biggest instigators was the time of the Hussite Wars, when handheld firearm usage [[JustForPun exploded]] and spread through the region like wildfire, becoming a mainstay in many different armies for the first time (rather than an occassional curiosity). During the second half of the 15th century, the Kingdom of Hungary was one of the first European countries to outfit large parts of the infantrymen in its royal army with matchlock handgonnes and early arquebuses. As standard issue, for specifically trained gunners, which wasn't really common yet in Europe, even with handheld firearm usage on 15th century battlefields. Matthias I. Corvinus learnt from the proliferation of firearms during the Hussite Wars and in their aftermath (he fought in the latter with his relatives as a young man), and wanted to make sure Hungary would get its hands on the latest toys and field them in intimidating numbers. Every ''fourth'' soldier in the Black Army had an arquebus in the infantry, an unusual ratio by the standards of the time. Hungary's late 15th century [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Army_of_Hungary Black Army]] was also one of the first examples of a traditional European royal army adopting traits of the standing army model that would come to dominate in the early modern era.

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* "Common knowledge" about the Middle Ages would cause most people to expect guns would proliferate only in Western Europe at first, but this was untrue already in the late Middle Ages. Among ranged weapons, firearms became almost as characteristic of the era as bows and crossbows. Even a more remote country like Ireland saw firearm usage in the 15th century. The various countries of Central Europe were increasingly adopting firearms since the start of the same century. One of the biggest instigators was the time of the Hussite Wars, when handheld firearm usage [[JustForPun exploded]] and spread through the region like wildfire, becoming a mainstay in many different armies for the first time (rather than an occassional curiosity). During the second half of the 15th century, the Kingdom of Hungary was one of the first European countries to outfit large parts of the infantrymen in its royal army with matchlock handgonnes and early arquebuses. As standard issue, for specifically trained gunners, which wasn't really common yet in Europe, even with handheld firearm usage on 15th century battlefields. Matthias I. I Corvinus learnt from the proliferation of firearms during the Hussite Wars and in their aftermath (he fought in the latter with his relatives as a young man), and wanted to make sure Hungary would get its hands on the latest toys and field them in intimidating numbers. Every ''fourth'' soldier in the Black Army had an arquebus in the infantry, an unusual ratio by the standards of the time. Hungary's late 15th century [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Army_of_Hungary Black Army]] was also one of the first examples of a traditional European royal army adopting traits of the standing army model that would come to dominate in the early modern era.
31st Aug '17 6:49:20 AM ZemplinTemplar
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* "Common knowledge" about the Middle Ages would cause most people to expect guns would proliferate only in Western Europe at first, but this was untrue already in the late Middle Ages. Among ranged weapons, firearms became almost as characteristic of the era as bows and crossbows. Even a more remote country like Ireland saw firearm usage in the 15th century. The various countries of Central Europe were increasingly adopting firearms since the start of the same century. One of the biggest instigators was the time of the Hussite Wars, when handheld firearm usage [[JustForPun exploded]] and spread through the region like wildfire, becoming a mainstay in many different armies for the first time (rather than an occassional curiosity). During the second half of the 15th century, the Kingdom of Hungary was one of the first European countries to outfit large parts of the infantrymen in its royal army with matchlock handgonnes and early arquebuses. As standard issue, for specifically trained gunners, which wasn't really common yet in Europe, even with handheld firearm usage on 15th century battlefields. Matthias I. Corvinus learnt from the proliferation of firearms during the Hussite Wars and in their aftermath (he fought in the latter with his relatives as a young man), and wanted to make sure Hungary would get its hands on the latest toys and field them in intimidating numbers. Every ''fourth'' soldier in the Black Army had an arquebus in the infantry, an unusual ratio by the standards of the time. Hungary's late 15th century [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Army_of_Hungary Black Army]] was also one of the first examples of a traditional European royal army adopting traits of the standing army model that would come to dominate in the early modern era.
3rd Aug '17 11:33:29 AM Larkmarn
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* Explicitly invoked in ''Series/IntoTheBadlands''. The work takes place in a distant future, after an UnspecifiedApocalypse. Humanity has rebuilt itself into a feudal society with more modern technology, but the Barons all agree to ban guns entirely. This is, more than anything else, done to HandWave the need for kick-ass kung fu fight scenes.
29th May '17 6:18:39 AM MaskedAndDangerous
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* Justified AND Averted in ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}''. While Drow do not use blackpowder based weaponry, as their natural mana based abilities are just as powerful and get more powerful as they get older, so-called "goblin" races such as duerger and humans do, occasionally using crude blunderbusses as a way of evening up the odds.
23rd Apr '17 12:10:02 PM TonyG
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* Inverted in the 1977 animated film ''WesternAnimation/{{Wizards}}'' where the protagonist Avatar uses benevolent magic while his evil twin Blackwolf relies on malevolent magic and Nazi technology. [[spoiler: Ironically enough, Avatar uses a gun to kill his brother rather than engage in a magical battle. Furthermore, WordOfGun has dismissed the film's stance as anti-technology and the movie being anti-propaganda]].

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* Inverted in the 1977 animated film ''WesternAnimation/{{Wizards}}'' where the protagonist Avatar uses benevolent magic while his evil twin Blackwolf relies on malevolent magic and Nazi technology. [[spoiler: Ironically enough, Avatar uses a gun to kill his brother rather than engage in a magical battle. Furthermore, WordOfGun WordOfGod has dismissed the film's stance as anti-technology and the movie being anti-propaganda]].
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