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9th Sep '17 8:42:36 PM smjb
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* Thouroughly averted in ''TheWolfAtWestonCourt'', where Faeries at least are highly proficient in the use of (single-shot) pistols and grenades.
31st Aug '17 6:52:49 AM ZemplinTemplar
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* "Common knowledge" about the Middle Ages would cause most people to expect guns would proliferate only in Western Europe at first, but this was untrue already in the late Middle Ages. Among ranged weapons, firearms became almost as characteristic of the era as bows and crossbows. Even a more remote country like Ireland saw firearm usage in the 15th century. The various countries of Central Europe were increasingly adopting firearms since the start of the same century. One of the biggest instigators was the time of the Hussite Wars, when handheld firearm usage [[JustForPun exploded]] and spread through the region like wildfire, becoming a mainstay in many different armies for the first time (rather than an occassional curiosity). During the second half of the 15th century, the Kingdom of Hungary was one of the first European countries to outfit large parts of the infantrymen in its royal army with matchlock handgonnes and early arquebuses. As standard issue, for specifically trained gunners, which wasn't really common yet in Europe, even with handheld firearm usage on 15th century battlefields. Matthias I. Corvinus learnt from the proliferation of firearms during the Hussite Wars and in their aftermath (he fought in the latter with his relatives as a young man), and wanted to make sure Hungary would get its hands on the latest toys and field them in intimidating numbers. Every ''fourth'' soldier in the Black Army had an arquebus in the infantry, an unusual ratio by the standards of the time. Hungary's late 15th century [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Army_of_Hungary Black Army]] was also one of the first examples of a traditional European royal army adopting traits of the standing army model that would come to dominate in the early modern era.

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* "Common knowledge" about the Middle Ages would cause most people to expect guns would proliferate only in Western Europe at first, but this was untrue already in the late Middle Ages. Among ranged weapons, firearms became almost as characteristic of the era as bows and crossbows. Even a more remote country like Ireland saw firearm usage in the 15th century. The various countries of Central Europe were increasingly adopting firearms since the start of the same century. One of the biggest instigators was the time of the Hussite Wars, when handheld firearm usage [[JustForPun exploded]] and spread through the region like wildfire, becoming a mainstay in many different armies for the first time (rather than an occassional curiosity). During the second half of the 15th century, the Kingdom of Hungary was one of the first European countries to outfit large parts of the infantrymen in its royal army with matchlock handgonnes and early arquebuses. As standard issue, for specifically trained gunners, which wasn't really common yet in Europe, even with handheld firearm usage on 15th century battlefields. Matthias I. I Corvinus learnt from the proliferation of firearms during the Hussite Wars and in their aftermath (he fought in the latter with his relatives as a young man), and wanted to make sure Hungary would get its hands on the latest toys and field them in intimidating numbers. Every ''fourth'' soldier in the Black Army had an arquebus in the infantry, an unusual ratio by the standards of the time. Hungary's late 15th century [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Army_of_Hungary Black Army]] was also one of the first examples of a traditional European royal army adopting traits of the standing army model that would come to dominate in the early modern era.
31st Aug '17 6:49:20 AM ZemplinTemplar
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* "Common knowledge" about the Middle Ages would cause most people to expect guns would proliferate only in Western Europe at first, but this was untrue already in the late Middle Ages. Among ranged weapons, firearms became almost as characteristic of the era as bows and crossbows. Even a more remote country like Ireland saw firearm usage in the 15th century. The various countries of Central Europe were increasingly adopting firearms since the start of the same century. One of the biggest instigators was the time of the Hussite Wars, when handheld firearm usage [[JustForPun exploded]] and spread through the region like wildfire, becoming a mainstay in many different armies for the first time (rather than an occassional curiosity). During the second half of the 15th century, the Kingdom of Hungary was one of the first European countries to outfit large parts of the infantrymen in its royal army with matchlock handgonnes and early arquebuses. As standard issue, for specifically trained gunners, which wasn't really common yet in Europe, even with handheld firearm usage on 15th century battlefields. Matthias I. Corvinus learnt from the proliferation of firearms during the Hussite Wars and in their aftermath (he fought in the latter with his relatives as a young man), and wanted to make sure Hungary would get its hands on the latest toys and field them in intimidating numbers. Every ''fourth'' soldier in the Black Army had an arquebus in the infantry, an unusual ratio by the standards of the time. Hungary's late 15th century [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Army_of_Hungary Black Army]] was also one of the first examples of a traditional European royal army adopting traits of the standing army model that would come to dominate in the early modern era.
3rd Aug '17 11:33:29 AM Larkmarn
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* Explicitly invoked in ''Series/IntoTheBadlands''. The work takes place in a distant future, after an UnspecifiedApocalypse. Humanity has rebuilt itself into a feudal society with more modern technology, but the Barons all agree to ban guns entirely. This is, more than anything else, done to HandWave the need for kick-ass kung fu fight scenes.
29th May '17 6:18:39 AM MaskedAndDangerous
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* Justified AND Averted in ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}''. While Drow do not use blackpowder based weaponry, as their natural mana based abilities are just as powerful and get more powerful as they get older, so-called "goblin" races such as duerger and humans do, occasionally using crude blunderbusses as a way of evening up the odds.
23rd Apr '17 12:10:02 PM TonyG
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* Inverted in the 1977 animated film ''WesternAnimation/{{Wizards}}'' where the protagonist Avatar uses benevolent magic while his evil twin Blackwolf relies on malevolent magic and Nazi technology. [[spoiler: Ironically enough, Avatar uses a gun to kill his brother rather than engage in a magical battle. Furthermore, WordOfGun has dismissed the film's stance as anti-technology and the movie being anti-propaganda]].

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* Inverted in the 1977 animated film ''WesternAnimation/{{Wizards}}'' where the protagonist Avatar uses benevolent magic while his evil twin Blackwolf relies on malevolent magic and Nazi technology. [[spoiler: Ironically enough, Avatar uses a gun to kill his brother rather than engage in a magical battle. Furthermore, WordOfGun WordOfGod has dismissed the film's stance as anti-technology and the movie being anti-propaganda]].
26th Mar '17 1:15:06 PM nombretomado
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* ''Manga/{{Drifters}}'' actually uses this as a plot point. The eponymous Drifters, being sucked from various ages and times in our world, range from those used to fighting with nothing but swords and arrows, to the Wild Bunch (with six-shooters and an early Gatling gun) and a Japanese Zero pilot. The world they're dumped in, however, is roughly around the same era of advancement as 1100's Europe, with no real machinery and firearms being a near-complete unknown. One of OdaNobunaga's first tasks is to get large supplies of sulphur and charcoal and to start the creation of a saltpeter pit for gunpowder, and practically creams himself when he sees how far ahead of muskets the Wild Bunch's firearms are. The Drifters are explicitly changing the rate of technological expansion at a breakneck pace every time they're brought in, and it's even stated directly by the guy who summons them that it's one of their primary purposes -- to force the world to advance well beyond the pace it normally would.

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* ''Manga/{{Drifters}}'' actually uses this as a plot point. The eponymous Drifters, being sucked from various ages and times in our world, range from those used to fighting with nothing but swords and arrows, to the Wild Bunch (with six-shooters and an early Gatling gun) and a Japanese Zero pilot. The world they're dumped in, however, is roughly around the same era of advancement as 1100's Europe, with no real machinery and firearms being a near-complete unknown. One of OdaNobunaga's UsefulNotes/OdaNobunaga's first tasks is to get large supplies of sulphur and charcoal and to start the creation of a saltpeter pit for gunpowder, and practically creams himself when he sees how far ahead of muskets the Wild Bunch's firearms are. The Drifters are explicitly changing the rate of technological expansion at a breakneck pace every time they're brought in, and it's even stated directly by the guy who summons them that it's one of their primary purposes -- to force the world to advance well beyond the pace it normally would.
5th Mar '17 9:18:56 AM Anddrix
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* ''Series/EmeraldCity'': The Wizard introduces flintlock muskets and pistols to Oz.


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* ''Series/EmeraldCity'': The Wizard introduces flintlock muskets and pistols to Oz.
24th Feb '17 8:07:46 PM Fireblood
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* ''Series/EmeraldCity'': The Wizard introduces flintlock muskets and pistols to Oz.
17th Dec '16 7:08:53 AM Rhodes7
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* Justified in ''Webcomic/{{Middleways}}'' where the atmosphere of Middleways is different and doesn't allow for traditional combustion. A variety of alternatives and workarounds are employed by people from Earth, like using glorified potato-guns to fire amrit-negative spheres.
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