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30th Sep '17 1:46:12 PM Luppercus
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* ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' is about the American military intervening in another planet because they want a valuable energy source (you know, like oil) facing resistance from a group of religiously motivated natives who consider the area that the Americans want "holy land", whilst at the same time most of the soldiers and especially their leaders, can't understand why this people (that some of they consider backwards and superstitious) are not happy with receiving their medicines and gadgets as a fair trade for their resource. Sounds like most of the Middle Eastern wars, but most notably the Iraqi War.
23rd Aug '17 10:49:49 AM Emperor_Oshron
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** There's another parallel that Western eyes will see even if they're unaware of its true inspiration: the Nazis' treatment of the Jews, Amestris being a militaristic European-like military dictatorship--led by a Fuhrer, no less--who committed genocide against a religious minority of monotheists.
4th Aug '17 1:03:59 AM TheBigBopper
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** The Second Europan War that forms the backdrop to the game is based on UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. Like the Entente and Central Powers of World War I, The Atlantic Federation and the Imperial Alliance were both unsatisfied with the postwar balance of power and began to rearm as the resumption of hostilities came to be seen as increasingly inevitable. Thus, a new continent-wide war breaks out some twenty years after the first. The Empire invades three of the Federation's border republics, an act of aggression mirroring Hitler's invasion of Poland in 1939, using new techniques of mechanized warfare and rapid advance to quickly overwhelm everything in its path. Emperor Maximilian takes the place of Adolf Hitler, a charismatic leader with ambitions of world domination who takes advantage of the climate of ethnic nationalism and racism that was allowed to fester during the interwar period. The Darksen people take the place of the Jews and Roma, who are distrusted by people on all sides and find themselves subjected to ethnic cleansing and genocide as a scapegoat to justify the Empire's conquest. Finally, the Valkyria serve as a counterpart to Nazi Germany's idea of the superior Aryan race, and their investigation of Valkyria sites and artifacts mirror the interest of high level Nazis in archaeology and the occult. Indeed the powers of the Valkyria and their ragnite lances take on the same strategic importance as weapons of mass destruction such as the atomic bomb did in World War II, with the major powers racing to obtain them first in order to gain an overwhelming advantage. The main thing for which there is not a direct comparison is that Gallia, which serves as a FantasyCounterpartCulture for Switzerland by its policy of armed neutrality, is invaded by the Empire for its ragnite, while in real life Nazi Germany left Switzerland alone.

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** The Second Europan War that forms the backdrop to the game is based on UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. Like the Entente and Central Powers of World War I, The Atlantic Federation and the Imperial Alliance were both unsatisfied with the postwar balance of power and began to rearm as the resumption of hostilities came to be seen as increasingly inevitable. Thus, a new continent-wide war breaks out some twenty years after the first. The Empire invades three of the Federation's border republics, an act of aggression mirroring Hitler's invasion of Poland in 1939, using new techniques of mechanized warfare and rapid advance to quickly overwhelm everything in its path. Emperor Maximilian takes the place of Adolf Hitler, a charismatic leader with ambitions of world domination who takes advantage of the climate of ethnic nationalism and racism that was allowed to fester during the interwar period. The Darksen Darcsen people take the place of the Jews and Roma, who are distrusted by people on all sides and find themselves subjected to ethnic cleansing and genocide as a scapegoat to justify the Empire's conquest. Finally, the Valkyria ancient Valkyrur serve as a counterpart to Nazi Germany's idea of the superior Aryan race, and their investigation of Valkyria Valkyrur sites and artifacts mirror the interest of high level Nazis in archaeology and the occult. Indeed the powers of the Valkyria and their ragnite lances take on the same strategic importance as weapons of mass destruction such as the atomic bomb did in World War II, with the major powers racing to obtain them first in order to gain an overwhelming advantage. The main thing for which there is not a direct comparison is that Gallia, which serves as a FantasyCounterpartCulture for Switzerland by its policy of armed neutrality, is invaded by the Empire for its ragnite, while in real life Nazi Germany left Switzerland alone.
4th Aug '17 12:54:13 AM TheBigBopper
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** The Second Europan War that forms the backdrop to the game is based on UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. Like the Entente and Central Powers of World War I, The Atlantic Federation and the Imperial Alliance were both unsatisfied with the postwar balance of power and began to rearm as the resumption of hostilities came to be seen as increasingly inevitable. Thus, a new continent-wide war breaks out some twenty years after the first. The Empire invades three of the Federation's border republics, an act of aggression mirroring Hitler's invasion of Poland in 1939, using new techniques of mechanized warfare and rapid advance to quickly overwhelm everything in its path. Emperor Maximilian takes the place of Adolf Hitler, a charismatic leader with ambitions of world domination who takes advantage of the climate of ethnic nationalism and racism that was allowed to fester during the interwar period. The Darksen people take the place of the Jews, who are distrusted by people on all sides and find themselves subjected to ethnic cleansing and genocide as a scapegoat to justify the Empire's conquest. Finally, the Valkyria serve as a counterpart to Nazi Germany's idea of the superior Aryan race, and their investigation of Valkyria sites and artifacts mirror the interest of high level Nazis in archaeology and the occult. Indeed the powers of the Valkyria and their ragnite lances take on the same strategic importance as weapons of mass destruction such as the atomic bomb did in World War II, with the major powers racing to obtain them first in order to gain an overwhelming advantage. The main thing for which there is not a direct comparison is that Gallia, which serves as a FantasyCounterpartCulture for Switzerland by its policy of armed neutrality, is invaded by the Empire for its ragnite, while in real life Nazi Germany left Switzerland alone.

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** The Second Europan War that forms the backdrop to the game is based on UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. Like the Entente and Central Powers of World War I, The Atlantic Federation and the Imperial Alliance were both unsatisfied with the postwar balance of power and began to rearm as the resumption of hostilities came to be seen as increasingly inevitable. Thus, a new continent-wide war breaks out some twenty years after the first. The Empire invades three of the Federation's border republics, an act of aggression mirroring Hitler's invasion of Poland in 1939, using new techniques of mechanized warfare and rapid advance to quickly overwhelm everything in its path. Emperor Maximilian takes the place of Adolf Hitler, a charismatic leader with ambitions of world domination who takes advantage of the climate of ethnic nationalism and racism that was allowed to fester during the interwar period. The Darksen people take the place of the Jews, Jews and Roma, who are distrusted by people on all sides and find themselves subjected to ethnic cleansing and genocide as a scapegoat to justify the Empire's conquest. Finally, the Valkyria serve as a counterpart to Nazi Germany's idea of the superior Aryan race, and their investigation of Valkyria sites and artifacts mirror the interest of high level Nazis in archaeology and the occult. Indeed the powers of the Valkyria and their ragnite lances take on the same strategic importance as weapons of mass destruction such as the atomic bomb did in World War II, with the major powers racing to obtain them first in order to gain an overwhelming advantage. The main thing for which there is not a direct comparison is that Gallia, which serves as a FantasyCounterpartCulture for Switzerland by its policy of armed neutrality, is invaded by the Empire for its ragnite, while in real life Nazi Germany left Switzerland alone.
4th Aug '17 12:52:11 AM TheBigBopper
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** In contrast, the Second Europan War that forms the backdrop to the game bears only a passing resemblance to UsefulNotes/WorldWarII's European theatre. It started twenty years after the first one and features the Empire steamrolling its enemies for the first stage of the war, but the similarities pretty much end there as at no point in World War II did UsefulNotes/NaziGermany invade Switzerland (for which Gallia is a FantasyCounterpartCulture).

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** In contrast, the The Second Europan War that forms the backdrop to the game bears only a passing resemblance is based on UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. Like the Entente and Central Powers of World War I, The Atlantic Federation and the Imperial Alliance were both unsatisfied with the postwar balance of power and began to UsefulNotes/WorldWarII's European theatre. It started rearm as the resumption of hostilities came to be seen as increasingly inevitable. Thus, a new continent-wide war breaks out some twenty years after the first one and features the first. The Empire steamrolling its enemies for the first stage invades three of the war, but Federation's border republics, an act of aggression mirroring Hitler's invasion of Poland in 1939, using new techniques of mechanized warfare and rapid advance to quickly overwhelm everything in its path. Emperor Maximilian takes the similarities pretty much end there place of Adolf Hitler, a charismatic leader with ambitions of world domination who takes advantage of the climate of ethnic nationalism and racism that was allowed to fester during the interwar period. The Darksen people take the place of the Jews, who are distrusted by people on all sides and find themselves subjected to ethnic cleansing and genocide as at no point a scapegoat to justify the Empire's conquest. Finally, the Valkyria serve as a counterpart to Nazi Germany's idea of the superior Aryan race, and their investigation of Valkyria sites and artifacts mirror the interest of high level Nazis in archaeology and the occult. Indeed the powers of the Valkyria and their ragnite lances take on the same strategic importance as weapons of mass destruction such as the atomic bomb did in World War II did UsefulNotes/NaziGermany invade II, with the major powers racing to obtain them first in order to gain an overwhelming advantage. The main thing for which there is not a direct comparison is that Gallia, which serves as a FantasyCounterpartCulture for Switzerland (for which Gallia by its policy of armed neutrality, is a FantasyCounterpartCulture).invaded by the Empire for its ragnite, while in real life Nazi Germany left Switzerland alone.
25th Jul '17 6:31:40 PM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/{{Gemfire}}'', by Creator/{{KOEI}}, is best described as ''Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms'' [[XMeetsY in a]] StandardFantasySetting [[XMeetsY version of the Wars of the Roses]]," down to the king being from House ''[[MeaningfulName Lankshire]]''. And Ishmeria being shaped like England and Wales (including the Isle of Man) and the king's bastard heading up House Tudoria.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Gemfire}}'', by Creator/{{KOEI}}, is best described as ''Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms'' [[XMeetsY [[JustForFun/XMeetsY in a]] StandardFantasySetting [[XMeetsY [[JustForFun/XMeetsY version of the Wars of the Roses]]," down to the king being from House ''[[MeaningfulName Lankshire]]''. And Ishmeria being shaped like England and Wales (including the Isle of Man) and the king's bastard heading up House Tudoria.
9th Jul '17 2:11:24 PM StarSword
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* [[DefiedTrope Defied]] by ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''. Shortly after the novel's original release, audiences began drawing parallels between it and UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo. Creator/JRRTolkien disliked this interpretation strongly enough that subsequent releases included a foreword that discusses at length all the ways in which the War of the Ring is ''not'' like World War II.

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* [[DefiedTrope Defied]] by ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''. ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'':
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Shortly after the novel's original release, audiences began drawing parallels between it and UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo. UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. Creator/JRRTolkien disliked this interpretation strongly enough that subsequent releases included a foreword that discusses at length all the ways in which the War of the Ring is ''not'' like World War II.II.
** On the flipside, the Battle of the Pelennor Fields in ''The Return of the King'' shows a great many similarities to the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna 1683 Battle of Vienna]] between the Ottoman Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, a long siege that ended in the Turks' rout by the largest cavalry charge in history, led by King Jan III Sobieski of Poland. Meanwhile, Tolkien himself in ''The History of the Lord of the Rings'' referenced an account of the Battle of the Catalaunian Plains by the late Roman historian Jordanes, in which Theodoric, King of the Visigoths, was slain in a nevertheless tactically successful battle against the Huns, invaders from the East.
1st Jul '17 11:31:30 AM StarSword
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* ''Literature/{{RCN}}'':

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* ''Literature/{{RCN}}'':''Literature/{{RCN}}'': Creator/DavidDrake usually notes in the foreword to the book the sources of inspiration (normally 19th century naval battles).



** Creator/DavidDrake's foreword to ''When the Tide Rises'' states he based the book's conflicts, both military and political, on [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cochrane,_10th_Earl_of_Dundonald Lord Cochrane's]] memoirs from his time serving as commander of the Chilean Navy during its war of independence, and the major battle on the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lissa_(1811) 1811 Battle of Lissa]] (not to be confused with the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lissa_(1866) 1866 Battle of Lissa]], which Drake comments was [[RealityIsUnrealistic so farcical you couldn't use it as a basis for fiction]]: the Italians somehow forgot to load shells in their cannons and spent the entire battle shooting blanks).

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** Creator/DavidDrake's The foreword to ''When the Tide Rises'' states he based that the book's conflicts, both military and political, are based on [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cochrane,_10th_Earl_of_Dundonald Lord Cochrane's]] memoirs from his time serving as commander of the Chilean Navy during its war of independence, and the major battle on the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lissa_(1811) 1811 Battle of Lissa]] (not to be confused with the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lissa_(1866) 1866 Battle of Lissa]], which Drake comments was [[RealityIsUnrealistic so farcical you couldn't use it as a basis for fiction]]: the Italians somehow forgot to load shells in their cannons and spent the entire battle shooting blanks).
1st Jul '17 11:28:16 AM StarSword
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* The Occupation of Bajor as portrayed in ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' drew most of its cues from the Nazi occupation of Europe in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII (and to a lesser extent the Japanese occupation of Pacific nations in the same period), with the Cardassians using concentration camps, forced labor, and {{sex slave}}ry on the native Bajorans and pillaging their art and cultural resources, while the Bajorans themselves had both LaResistance and LesCollaborateurs. However, the Cardassians withdraw right before the series mostly due to their own internal politics.

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* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'':
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The Occupation of Bajor as portrayed in ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' drew most of its cues from the Nazi occupation of Europe in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII (and to a lesser extent the Japanese occupation of Pacific nations in the same period), with the Cardassians using concentration camps, forced labor, and {{sex slave}}ry on the native Bajorans and pillaging their art and cultural resources, while the Bajorans themselves had both LaResistance and LesCollaborateurs. However, the Cardassians withdraw right before the series mostly due to their own internal politics.politics.
** The situation in "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E18RulesOfEngagement Rules of Engagement]]" where Worf accidentally destroys a passenger ship while defending a convoy against Klingon raiders was inspired by the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 Iran Air Flight 655]] incident during the UsefulNotes/IranIraqWar.
** Much of the Dominion War story arc is based on UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. The fall of Deep Space 9 in "Call to Arms" references US possessions falling to Japan, while "Favor the Bold" and "Sacrifice of Angels" parallel D-Day in part. "The Siege of AR-558" was written based on Guadalcanal, but Winrich Kolbe drew on his experiences in UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar while directing it, feeling it was similar to Khe Sanh.
23rd Jun '17 8:11:36 PM shonengirl
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* ** The general plot of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance'' seems has some parallels with World War II, particularly in the roles of many of the countries. Daein/Germany is a bigoted, militaristic aggressor nation, Crimea/France is a cultured nation invaded by said aggressor state, Begnion/Britain is a powerful, aristocratic empire to whom Crimea/France appeals to for help and the Laguz/United States are isolationists who come to join the Allies when they realize Daein/Germany threaten them. To top it all off, the leader of the allied force is called Ike (although he's actually from the France stand-in). [[note]]Technically, Greil and Elena originally came from the Germany stand-in and emigrated to the United States stand-in, where they had Ike and Mist; later Greil moved with Ike and Mist to the France stand-in.[[/note]] The sequel didn't keep these parallels up; if anything, Daein in ''Radiant Dawn'' more closely resembled post-WW'''I''' Germany.

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* ** The general plot of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance'' seems has some parallels with World War II, particularly in the roles of many of the countries. Daein/Germany is a bigoted, militaristic aggressor nation, Crimea/France is a cultured nation invaded by said aggressor state, Begnion/Britain is a powerful, aristocratic empire to whom Crimea/France appeals to for help and the Laguz/United States are isolationists who come to join the Allies when they realize Daein/Germany threaten them. To top it all off, the leader of the allied force is called Ike (although he's actually from the France stand-in). [[note]]Technically, Greil and Elena originally came from the Germany stand-in and emigrated to the United States stand-in, where they had Ike and Mist; later Greil moved with Ike and Mist to the France stand-in.[[/note]] The sequel didn't keep these parallels up; if anything, Daein in ''Radiant Dawn'' more closely resembled post-WW'''I''' Germany.
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