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9th Jul '17 2:11:24 PM StarSword
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* [[DefiedTrope Defied]] by ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''. Shortly after the novel's original release, audiences began drawing parallels between it and UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo. Creator/JRRTolkien disliked this interpretation strongly enough that subsequent releases included a foreword that discusses at length all the ways in which the War of the Ring is ''not'' like World War II.

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* [[DefiedTrope Defied]] by ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''. ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'':
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Shortly after the novel's original release, audiences began drawing parallels between it and UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo. UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. Creator/JRRTolkien disliked this interpretation strongly enough that subsequent releases included a foreword that discusses at length all the ways in which the War of the Ring is ''not'' like World War II.II.
** On the flipside, the Battle of the Pelennor Fields in ''The Return of the King'' shows a great many similarities to the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna 1683 Battle of Vienna]] between the Ottoman Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, a long siege that ended in the Turks' rout by the largest cavalry charge in history, led by King Jan III Sobieski of Poland. Meanwhile, Tolkien himself in ''The History of the Lord of the Rings'' referenced an account of the Battle of the Catalaunian Plains by the late Roman historian Jordanes, in which Theodoric, King of the Visigoths, was slain in a nevertheless tactically successful battle against the Huns, invaders from the East.
1st Jul '17 11:31:30 AM StarSword
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* ''Literature/{{RCN}}'':

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* ''Literature/{{RCN}}'':''Literature/{{RCN}}'': Creator/DavidDrake usually notes in the foreword to the book the sources of inspiration (normally 19th century naval battles).



** Creator/DavidDrake's foreword to ''When the Tide Rises'' states he based the book's conflicts, both military and political, on [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cochrane,_10th_Earl_of_Dundonald Lord Cochrane's]] memoirs from his time serving as commander of the Chilean Navy during its war of independence, and the major battle on the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lissa_(1811) 1811 Battle of Lissa]] (not to be confused with the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lissa_(1866) 1866 Battle of Lissa]], which Drake comments was [[RealityIsUnrealistic so farcical you couldn't use it as a basis for fiction]]: the Italians somehow forgot to load shells in their cannons and spent the entire battle shooting blanks).

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** Creator/DavidDrake's The foreword to ''When the Tide Rises'' states he based that the book's conflicts, both military and political, are based on [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cochrane,_10th_Earl_of_Dundonald Lord Cochrane's]] memoirs from his time serving as commander of the Chilean Navy during its war of independence, and the major battle on the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lissa_(1811) 1811 Battle of Lissa]] (not to be confused with the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lissa_(1866) 1866 Battle of Lissa]], which Drake comments was [[RealityIsUnrealistic so farcical you couldn't use it as a basis for fiction]]: the Italians somehow forgot to load shells in their cannons and spent the entire battle shooting blanks).
1st Jul '17 11:28:16 AM StarSword
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* The Occupation of Bajor as portrayed in ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' drew most of its cues from the Nazi occupation of Europe in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII (and to a lesser extent the Japanese occupation of Pacific nations in the same period), with the Cardassians using concentration camps, forced labor, and {{sex slave}}ry on the native Bajorans and pillaging their art and cultural resources, while the Bajorans themselves had both LaResistance and LesCollaborateurs. However, the Cardassians withdraw right before the series mostly due to their own internal politics.

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* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'':
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The Occupation of Bajor as portrayed in ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' drew most of its cues from the Nazi occupation of Europe in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII (and to a lesser extent the Japanese occupation of Pacific nations in the same period), with the Cardassians using concentration camps, forced labor, and {{sex slave}}ry on the native Bajorans and pillaging their art and cultural resources, while the Bajorans themselves had both LaResistance and LesCollaborateurs. However, the Cardassians withdraw right before the series mostly due to their own internal politics.politics.
** The situation in "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E18RulesOfEngagement Rules of Engagement]]" where Worf accidentally destroys a passenger ship while defending a convoy against Klingon raiders was inspired by the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 Iran Air Flight 655]] incident during the UsefulNotes/IranIraqWar.
** Much of the Dominion War story arc is based on UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. The fall of Deep Space 9 in "Call to Arms" references US possessions falling to Japan, while "Favor the Bold" and "Sacrifice of Angels" parallel D-Day in part. "The Siege of AR-558" was written based on Guadalcanal, but Winrich Kolbe drew on his experiences in UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar while directing it, feeling it was similar to Khe Sanh.
23rd Jun '17 8:11:36 PM shonengirl
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* ** The general plot of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance'' seems has some parallels with World War II, particularly in the roles of many of the countries. Daein/Germany is a bigoted, militaristic aggressor nation, Crimea/France is a cultured nation invaded by said aggressor state, Begnion/Britain is a powerful, aristocratic empire to whom Crimea/France appeals to for help and the Laguz/United States are isolationists who come to join the Allies when they realize Daein/Germany threaten them. To top it all off, the leader of the allied force is called Ike (although he's actually from the France stand-in). [[note]]Technically, Greil and Elena originally came from the Germany stand-in and emigrated to the United States stand-in, where they had Ike and Mist; later Greil moved with Ike and Mist to the France stand-in.[[/note]] The sequel didn't keep these parallels up; if anything, Daein in ''Radiant Dawn'' more closely resembled post-WW'''I''' Germany.

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* ** The general plot of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance'' seems has some parallels with World War II, particularly in the roles of many of the countries. Daein/Germany is a bigoted, militaristic aggressor nation, Crimea/France is a cultured nation invaded by said aggressor state, Begnion/Britain is a powerful, aristocratic empire to whom Crimea/France appeals to for help and the Laguz/United States are isolationists who come to join the Allies when they realize Daein/Germany threaten them. To top it all off, the leader of the allied force is called Ike (although he's actually from the France stand-in). [[note]]Technically, Greil and Elena originally came from the Germany stand-in and emigrated to the United States stand-in, where they had Ike and Mist; later Greil moved with Ike and Mist to the France stand-in.[[/note]] The sequel didn't keep these parallels up; if anything, Daein in ''Radiant Dawn'' more closely resembled post-WW'''I''' Germany.
23rd Jun '17 8:11:01 PM shonengirl
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* ** The general plot of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance'' seems has some parallels with World War II, particularly in the roles of many of the countries. Daein/Germany is a bigoted, militaristic aggressor nation, Crimea/France is a cultured nation invaded by said aggressor state, Begnion/Britain is a powerful, aristocratic empire to whom Crimea/France appeals to for help and the Laguz/United States are isolationists who come to join the Allies when they realize Daein/Germany threaten them. To top it all off, the leader of the allied force is called Ike (although he's actually from the France stand-in). [[note]]Technically, Greil and Elena originally came from the Germany stand-in and emigrated to the United States stand-in, where they had Ike and Mist; later Greil moved with Ike and Mist to the France stand-in.[[/note]] The sequel didn't keep these parallels up; if anything, Daein in ''Radiant Dawn'' more closely resembled post-WW'''I''' Germany.
5th Apr '17 10:59:34 AM dasuberkaiser
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** What little we see of Postwar Cardassian politics shows that there are some nostalgic movements in the government that wish that the defense force were allowed to be expanded to a full military force again. Coupled with said politician wishing to have a particular blend of Kanar that was made on Bajor during the occupation and that it's rare because most Bajoran's see it as a sign of the occupation, it can be a nice blend of Postwar Iraq, Japan, and WWI Germany.

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** What little we see of Postwar Cardassian politics shows that there are some nostalgic movements in the government that wish that the defense force were allowed to be expanded to a full military force again. Coupled with said politician wishing to have a particular blend of Kanar that was made on Bajor during the occupation and that it's rare because most Bajoran's Bajorans see it as a sign of the occupation, it can be a nice blend of Postwar Iraq, Japan, and WWI Germany.
31st Mar '17 8:35:34 AM hszmv1
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** What little we see of Postwar Cardassian politics shows that there are some nostalgic movements in the government that wish that the defense force were allowed to be expanded to a full military force again. Coupled with said politician wishing to have a particular blend of Kanar that was made on Bajor during the occupation and that it's rare because most Bajoran's see it as a sign of the occupation, it can be a nice blend of Postwar Iraq, Japan, and WWI Germany.
** The introduction of Carrier ships into the game has led to many comparisons to WWII, especially with their growing prominence pushing out previously battle ship style capitol ships.
26th Mar '17 8:16:26 PM HotelCalifornia
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* The ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' episode [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E21OverABarrel "Over a Barrel"]] deals with a scenario much like early America's [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Indian_Wars Indian Wars]], settlers taking over the natives' ancestral land for their own purposes, without native consent, which in turn cranks off the natives. Due to [[SlidingScaleOfCynicismVersusIdealism the nature of the show,]] things get resolved before they... [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement escalate too far]]. Specifically, it's a LighterAndSofter fantasy version of the Black Hills conflict, wherein the Lakota regarded the area as Sacred Ground (in the episode, a Buffalo Stampede Trail) whereas the settlers found a big mess of precious minerals (in the episode, the only place a farm could be planted).

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* The ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' episode [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E21OverABarrel "Over a Barrel"]] deals with a scenario much like early America's [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Indian_Wars Indian Wars]], settlers taking over the natives' ancestral land for their own purposes, without native consent, which in turn cranks off the natives. Due to [[SlidingScaleOfCynicismVersusIdealism the nature of the show,]] things get resolved before they... [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement escalate too far]].far. Specifically, it's a LighterAndSofter fantasy version of the Black Hills conflict, wherein the Lakota regarded the area as Sacred Ground (in the episode, a Buffalo Stampede Trail) whereas the settlers found a big mess of precious minerals (in the episode, the only place a farm could be planted).
21st Mar '17 5:16:27 PM MadAnthony94
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* ''StarWars''
** The war against the Galactic Empire in the original trilogy has shades of WWII, with the Empire playing the part of Nazi Germany ("stormtrooper" was originally a name for SS troops). Probably especially fitting given that a major influence on the series was old WWII-era serials.
** The prequel trilogy, although a bit more low-key, draws on aspects of the American Civil War, with the antagonists' side being called a "Confederacy", which utilizes slave labor and is mostly rebelling for economic reasons.
** The sequel trilogy seems to draw more on modern day asymmetrical conflicts with Iran, Syria, or North Korea (the First Order draws especially on imagery of the latter, with a "Supreme Leader" and a heavily indoctrinated military).
5th Feb '17 11:03:21 AM StarSword
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* ''Literature/IntoTheHinterlands'' and its sequel ''Into the Maelstrom'' by Creator/DavidDrake and Creator/JohnLambshead is the wars of early America InSpace, with viewpoint character Allen Allenson standing in for UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington in respectively the UsefulNotes/FrenchAndIndianWar (Brasilian colonies versus Terran soldiers and "Riders") and UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolutionaryWar (Brasilian colonies seeking independence from Brasilia).

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* ''Literature/IntoTheHinterlands'' and its sequel ''Into the Maelstrom'' by Creator/DavidDrake and Creator/JohnLambshead is the wars of early America InSpace, with viewpoint character Allen Allenson standing in for UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington in respectively the UsefulNotes/FrenchAndIndianWar (Brasilian colonies versus Terran soldiers and "Riders") and UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolutionaryWar the UsefulNotes/AmericanRevolution (Brasilian colonies seeking independence from Brasilia).
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