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27th Mar '16 7:14:33 PM Vilui
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* Kirei Kotomine of ''LightNovel/FateZero'' had known for many years that he was [[TheSociopath inclined by his nature to evil]] but chose to adhere to the tenants of the Church. Due to the influence of Gilgamesh during the Fourth War he began a descent into villainy, [[LateArrivalSpoiler ending with him laughing happily as he witnessed a fire kill five hundred people]].

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* Kirei Kotomine of ''LightNovel/FateZero'' had known for many years that he was [[TheSociopath inclined by his nature to evil]] but chose to adhere to the tenants tenets of the Church. Due to the influence of Gilgamesh during the Fourth War he began a descent into villainy, [[LateArrivalSpoiler ending with him laughing happily as he witnessed a fire kill five hundred people]].
3rd Mar '16 4:10:16 AM VicGeorge2011
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* Played straight in 2nd Chronicles of the Bible, however, when after Jehoiada the priest's death, King Joash of Judah turned away from following God and had Jehoiada's son killed for prophesying against him, eventually leading to his own death.



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26th Feb '16 7:42:27 PM henry42
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Obviously, in RealLife, it takes a hell of a lot more than a loss of faith to just drive people to do evil. Done poorly, this can be an outright StrawmanPolitical character to show that religion is supposed to be the sole moral compass for people.

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Obviously, in RealLife, it takes a hell of a lot more than a loss of faith to just drive people to do evil. Done poorly, this can be an outright StrawmanPolitical character StrawCharacter to show that [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop religion is supposed to be the sole moral compass for people.
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11th Dec '15 11:23:41 PM BURGINABC
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* Averted (or perhaps inverted) with Father Dougal of ''FatherTed''. While Dougal often makes comments which would perfectly fit this kind of character (e.g. something like "Todd, we're not really supposed to believe in that Jesus stuff, are we?"), he is TheDitz and presented as a [[DumbIsGood better person]] than the more faithful Ted.
14th Oct '15 4:19:03 PM randomsurfer
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14th Oct '15 4:17:11 PM randomsurfer
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* At least one ComicBook/{{Chick Tract|s}} does this, possibly a few more. Act surprised.
** The most perplexing (and [[{{Narm}} unintentionally hilarious]]) example would have to be the one where a child grows up to become evil...because he found out ''there was no Santa Claus''.
** A lot of [[http://fstdt.com/ FSTDT]] quotes feature people who fear having a crisis of faith because they believe this will happen.

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* At least one ComicBook/{{Chick Tract|s}} does this, possibly a few more. Act surprised.
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surprised. The most perplexing (and [[{{Narm}} unintentionally hilarious]]) example would have to be the one where a child grows up to become evil...because he found out ''there was no Santa Claus''.
** A lot of [[http://fstdt.com/ FSTDT]] quotes feature people who fear having a crisis of faith because they believe this will happen.
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* A lot of Website/FundiesSayTheDarndestThings quotes feature people who fear having a crisis of faith because they believe this will happen.
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7th Sep '15 3:54:54 PM AtticusOmundson
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* Xenovia from ''LightNovel/HighSchoolDxD'' once she learns that [[GodIsDead God died]] during the last war between the angels, [[FallenAngel fallen angels]], and demons. She falls into desperation and turns to Rias for help, who turns her into a devil. Once turned, she attempts to redirect her former faith towards worldly desire (which mostly involves attempting to have sex with Issei), but her inherent piety often wins over, with her constantly praying and thanking God for good things happening, which due to her newfound devilhood, results in giving her sharp migraines.

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* Xenovia from ''LightNovel/HighSchoolDxD'' once she learns that [[GodIsDead God died]] during the last war between the angels, [[FallenAngel fallen angels]], and demons. She falls into desperation and turns to Rias for help, who turns her into a devil. Once turned, she attempts to redirect her former faith towards worldly desire (which mostly involves attempting to have sex with Issei), but her inherent piety often wins over, with her constantly praying and thanking God for good things happening, which due to her newfound devilhood, results in giving her sharp migraines.migraines (at least until Issei asks the Archangel Michael to give her and Asia special permission).
30th Aug '15 10:08:59 PM merotoker
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* The minor MarvelUniverse villain Madcap went there first, save that he also got total immortality and superpowers in the same accident that killed his entire family and church group, making for even greater nihilistic nutsiness (though not nearly as much evil).

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* The minor MarvelUniverse Franchise/MarvelUniverse villain Madcap went there first, save that he also got total immortality and superpowers in the same accident that killed his entire family and church group, making for even greater nihilistic nutsiness (though not nearly as much evil).



* The book ''Supervillains and Philosophy'' has an essay speculating about Two-Face's philosophical journey. (Obviously, this is a completely non-canon AlternativeCharacterInterpretation.) According to this essay, Harvey Dent aka Comicbook/TwoFace was a believer in the strongly ordered universe of Calvinism when he was a young man. But when he went to college and learned about atheistic philosophies like Existentialism, he began to believe that his two-faced random destruction was more appropriate to the [[NietzscheWannabe true nature of this chaotic world]].
* In the 1993 DCComics ''Bloodlines'' crossover, a priest was attacked by one of the alien parasites. He awoke afterwards with a crisis of faith and decay powers, leading to him embracing evil and calling himself Cardinal Sin.
** Likewise, the man who held a shotgun on the priest was attacked and discovered he now had healing abilities and actually saved the priest before he died, now calling himself Samaritan. Samaritan ended up dying as he managed to cancel out Cardinal Sin's death touch.

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* The book ''Supervillains and Philosophy'' has an essay speculating about Two-Face's philosophical journey. (Obviously, this is a completely non-canon AlternativeCharacterInterpretation.) According to this essay, Harvey Dent aka Comicbook/TwoFace was a believer in the strongly ordered universe of Calvinism when he was a young man. But when he went to college and learned about atheistic philosophies like Existentialism, he began to believe that his two-faced random destruction was more appropriate to the [[NietzscheWannabe [[StrawNihilist true nature of this chaotic world]].
* In the 1993 DCComics Creator/DCComics ''Bloodlines'' crossover, a priest was attacked by one of the alien parasites. He awoke afterwards with a crisis of faith and decay powers, leading to him embracing evil and calling himself Cardinal Sin.
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Sin. Likewise, the man who held a shotgun on the priest was attacked and discovered he now had healing abilities and actually saved the priest before he died, now calling himself Samaritan. Samaritan ended up dying as he managed to cancel out Cardinal Sin's death touch.



* The WheelOfTime series has a justified example-general [[TheHedonist hedonist]] and ManipulativeBitch Graendal was once one of the most faithful and diligent aesthetics in the world before her fall...except she was also a complete ControlFreak and egomaniac, who did her turn when she realized she couldn't force the world to be like her. Her new persona is basically a spiteful commentary on her disgust for the world. Justified, of course, in that she fell from grace primarily because of her pride and inability to admit the world had problems she couldn't fix. Losing her faith was just a manifestation of it.

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* The WheelOfTime ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'' series has a justified example-general [[TheHedonist hedonist]] and ManipulativeBitch Graendal was once one of the most faithful and diligent aesthetics in the world before her fall...except she was also a complete ControlFreak and egomaniac, who did her turn when she realized she couldn't force the world to be like her. Her new persona is basically a spiteful commentary on her disgust for the world. Justified, of course, in that she fell from grace primarily because of her pride and inability to admit the world had problems she couldn't fix. Losing her faith was just a manifestation of it.



* Brother Justin in ''Series/{{Carnivale}}'' starts out as a well-meaning preacher. However, some bad luck, combined with the [[PoisonousFriend influence]] of his [[BrotherSisterIncest loving sister]] ensures he ends up [[TheAntiChrist rather different]].
** In his case it was an unfortunate case of InTheBlood, though.

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* Brother Justin in ''Series/{{Carnivale}}'' starts out as a well-meaning preacher. However, some bad luck, combined with the [[PoisonousFriend influence]] of his [[BrotherSisterIncest loving sister]] ensures he ends up [[TheAntiChrist rather different]].
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different]]. In his case it was an unfortunate case of InTheBlood, though.



* Used along with HeelFaithTurn in ''MyNameIsEarl''. A ScaryBlackMan gangster who went by "Hash Brown" and eventually became a priest ends up being on Earl's list at least five times, with each new list item revealed making him angrier and angrier until he snaps and decides to return to his gangster life. Then Earl recognizes his car and reveals that he broke the taillight on it (another list item). The broken taillight caused Hash Brown to get pulled over and be late for a deal which ended up turning into a brutal shootout, meaning that Earl had indirectly saved his life. Since this event was what had caused him to take up religion in the first place (he originally attributed it to divine intervention), he thanks Earl and goes back to being a priest.

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* Used along with HeelFaithTurn in ''MyNameIsEarl''.''Series/MyNameIsEarl''. A ScaryBlackMan gangster who went by "Hash Brown" and eventually became a priest ends up being on Earl's list at least five times, with each new list item revealed making him angrier and angrier until he snaps and decides to return to his gangster life. Then Earl recognizes his car and reveals that he broke the taillight on it (another list item). The broken taillight caused Hash Brown to get pulled over and be late for a deal which ended up turning into a brutal shootout, meaning that Earl had indirectly saved his life. Since this event was what had caused him to take up religion in the first place (he originally attributed it to divine intervention), he thanks Earl and goes back to being a priest.



* Given that [[FaceHeelTurn heel turn]] is a wrestling term, examples aren't terribly hard to come by, though it was subverted in Wrestling/{{WWE}} of all promotions where Wrestling/VinceMcMahon grew tired of nice guy Christian Wrestling/ShawnMichaels and decided he wanted the backstabbing playboy Shawn Michaels that nobody liked back. After booking a tag team match with himself and son Wrestling/{{Shane| McMahon}} against Shawn Michaels and God (aka a handicap match) he finally "succeeded" (even though Shawn and "God" won the match). He temporarily got the old Shawn Michaels back, he even got Wrestling/DGenerationX, but Shawn remained a baby {{face}}, [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor whose chicanery was now all directed at McMahon]].

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* Given that [[FaceHeelTurn heel turn]] is a wrestling term, examples aren't terribly hard to come by, though it was subverted in Wrestling/{{WWE}} of all promotions where Wrestling/VinceMcMahon grew tired of nice guy Christian Wrestling/ShawnMichaels and decided he wanted the backstabbing playboy Shawn Michaels that nobody liked back. After booking a tag team match with himself and son Wrestling/{{Shane| McMahon}} against Shawn Michaels and God (aka a handicap match) he finally "succeeded" (even though Shawn and "God" won the match)."succeeded". He temporarily got the old Shawn Michaels back, he even got Wrestling/DGenerationX, but Shawn remained a baby {{face}}, [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor whose chicanery was now all directed at McMahon]].



* ''{{Exalted}}'' has an unusually sympathetic example in the form of the Blood Queen, who used to be one of the Brides of Ahlat, an AmazonBrigade symbolically and literally MarriedToAGod. The Brides of Ahlat are not permitted to sleep with any other man, on pain of death; a little-known fact is that this extends to rape. When the woman who would become the Blood Queen found this out the hard way, she renounced Ahlat, fled Harborhead, and became an akuma in order to take revenge on the entire institution that had ruined her life.

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* ''{{Exalted}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' has an unusually sympathetic example in the form of the Blood Queen, who used to be one of the Brides of Ahlat, an AmazonBrigade symbolically and literally MarriedToAGod. The Brides of Ahlat are not permitted to sleep with any other man, on pain of death; a little-known fact is that this extends to rape. When the woman who would become the Blood Queen found this out the hard way, she renounced Ahlat, fled Harborhead, and became an akuma in order to take revenge on the entire institution that had ruined her life.



* {{Played with}} on ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' when [[PalsWithJesus Ned Flanders]] loses faith after his wife dies, turning the picture of God away from him and scaring his kids with his decision not to go to church.

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* {{Played with}} [[PlayingWithATrope Played with]] on ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' when [[PalsWithJesus Ned Flanders]] loses faith after his wife dies, turning the picture of God away from him and scaring his kids with his decision not to go to church.



** {{Lampshaded}} in "Lemon of Troy" when Bart is handing out roles to the members of his team. He designates Todd Flanders "the quiet religious guy who ends up going crazy".

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** {{Lampshaded}} {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in "Lemon of Troy" when Bart is handing out roles to the members of his team. He designates Todd Flanders "the quiet religious guy who ends up going crazy".



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13th Aug '15 9:51:49 PM Fireblood
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* Salieri in ''Film/{{Amadeus}}'' does this after continually being upstaged by the boorish, spoiled, conceited, but vastly more talented Mozart, ultimately deciding to steal his work and drive him to his death, because he couldn't stand that God had made Mozart more gifted than he. Inverted in that even beforehand he was really a JerkAss whose faith in God was basically an extension of his personal vanity.

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* Salieri in ''Film/{{Amadeus}}'' does this after continually being upstaged by the boorish, spoiled, conceited, but vastly more talented Mozart, ultimately deciding to steal his work and drive him to his death, because he couldn't stand that God had made Mozart more gifted than he. Inverted in that even beforehand he was really a JerkAss whose faith in God was basically an extension of his [[EgocentricallyReligious personal vanity.vanity]].



* The WheelOfTime series has a justified example-general [[TheHedonist hedonist]] and ManipulativeBitch Graendal was once one of the most faithful and diligent asthetics in the world before her fall...except she was also a complete ControlFreak and egomaniac, who did her turn when she realized she couldn't force the world to be like her. Her new persona is basically a spiteful commentary on her disgust for the world. Justified, of course, in that she fell from grace primarily because of her pride and inability to admit the world had problems she couldn't fix. Losing her faith was just a manifestation of it.

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* The WheelOfTime series has a justified example-general [[TheHedonist hedonist]] and ManipulativeBitch Graendal was once one of the most faithful and diligent asthetics aesthetics in the world before her fall...except she was also a complete ControlFreak and egomaniac, who did her turn when she realized she couldn't force the world to be like her. Her new persona is basically a spiteful commentary on her disgust for the world. Justified, of course, in that she fell from grace primarily because of her pride and inability to admit the world had problems she couldn't fix. Losing her faith was just a manifestation of it.



** It's more a parody on the Book of Job than Ned fully losing his faith.

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** It's more a parody on the Book of Job than Ned fully losing his faith. He recovers completely over the course of the episode.
9th Aug '15 11:30:39 AM AtticusOmundson
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* Xenovia from ''LightNovel/HighSchoolDxD'' once she learns that [[GodIsDead God died]] during the last war between the angels, [[FallenAngel fallen angels]], and demons. She falls into desperation and turns to Rias for help, who turns her into a devil. Once turned, she attempts to redirect her former faith towards worldly desire (which mostly involves attempting to have sex with Issei), but her inherent piety often wins over, with her constantly praying and thanking God for good things happening, which due to her newfound devilhood, results in giving her sharp migraines.
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