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16th Nov '17 7:54:13 PM FRizer
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In some stories this won't happen, because TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed. [[TitleDrop Evil only has to win once]] in order to [[EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt permanently turn]] the [[CrapsackWorld world into a crapsack]] VillainWorld with absolutely no [[EarnYourHappyEnding hope of being deposed]]. Heck, if the villain is an OmnicidalManiac [[ApocalypseHow there won't even be]] [[EarthShatteringKaboom a world to save]].

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In some stories this won't happen, because TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed. [[TitleDrop Evil only has to win once]] in order to [[EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt permanently turn]] the [[CrapsackWorld world into a crapsack]] VillainWorld with absolutely no [[EarnYourHappyEnding hope of being deposed]]. Heck, if the villain is an OmnicidalManiac [[ApocalypseHow there won't even be]] [[EarthShatteringKaboom a world to save]].
save]]. It's one of the justifications for XMustNotWin (in this case, X is the villain).



It just doesn't seem fair. Why is it that beating the BigBad doesn't bring about a thousand years of perpetual (hopefully not literal) light? There's two potential [[JustifiedTrope justifications for this]]: Good, ''[[LightIsGood true]]'' Good, won't [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans stoop]] to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill the levels]] necessary to create a permanent SugarBowl, whereas Evil won't have a problem with completely wrecking the world. The other reason is that the Good Guys are usually the only ones concerned with maintaining the BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil. Metatextually, the Author also probably wants a world where his ChronicHeroSyndrome suffering protagonist can't sleep. Also, we know VillainsActHeroesReact, and an action can often be tried many times until successful.

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It just doesn't seem fair. Why is it that beating the BigBad doesn't bring about a thousand years of perpetual (hopefully not literal) light? There's two potential [[JustifiedTrope justifications for this]]: Good, ''[[LightIsGood true]]'' ''true'' Good, won't [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans stoop]] to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill the levels]] necessary to create a permanent SugarBowl, whereas Evil won't have a problem with completely wrecking the world. The other reason is that the Good Guys are usually the only ones concerned with maintaining the BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil. Metatextually, the Author also probably wants a world where his ChronicHeroSyndrome suffering protagonist can't sleep. Also, we know VillainsActHeroesReact, and an action can often be tried many times until successful.


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Contrast AsLongAsThereIsOneMan.
28th Sep '17 10:13:18 AM Necrodomo
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* Averted and played with in ''[[NexusWar Nexus Clash]]''. The Evil Elder Powers have won the cycle (and the right to be the shaper of the next world) many times, but since it's an EternalRecurrence they have also lost many times. What's more, the cause of a new cycle is the end of the world or human civilization on it. Thus while all the Powers have [[GodIsFlawed flaws]] that cause their worlds to fall apart ''eventually'', the worlds shaped by the Evil Powers are self-destructive, short-lived [[CrapsackWorld hellholes]] that quickly crumble and leave creation up for grabs by better and saner Powers.
22nd Sep '17 11:51:25 PM babyhenchy1
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* Subverted in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic''. Carth certainly thinks this is true, but Jolee is less concerned, believing that things would bounce back to normal even if evil did win - though it wouldn't be until after a few decades of tyranny.

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* Subverted in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic''. Carth certainly thinks this is true, but Jolee is less concerned, believing that things would bounce back to normal even if evil did win - though it wouldn't be until after a few decades decades, or centuries, of tyranny.tyranny, and he'd rather not wait that long.
22nd Sep '17 2:57:02 AM LinTaylor
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* Coupled with NotSoHarmlessVillain and a dash of FridgeHorror in any given season of Power Rangers. As ridiculous looking as some of the monsters can be, they can still wreak massive amounts of destruction and the Megazord is the '''only''' thing that can stop them. If the Rangers lose, the villains just got rid of their only obstacle to world domination.

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* Coupled with NotSoHarmlessVillain and a dash of FridgeHorror in any given season of Power Rangers.''Franchise/PowerRangers''. As ridiculous looking as some of the monsters can be, they can still wreak massive amounts of destruction and the Megazord is the '''only''' thing that can stop them. If the Rangers lose, the villains just got rid of their only obstacle to world domination.
* ''Series/KamenRiderWizard'' had this, seemingly the result of the writers putting themselves in a corner. Short version: There are special people with magical potential (Gates), but if they cross the DespairEventHorizon, they die and get replaced by a monster called a Phantom. The title character is a Gate who fought back from the edge of despair, unlocked his latent magical powers, and uses them to protect other Gates from the Phantoms. The problem is that if the Phantoms succeed even once, then Wizard will fall into despair over his failure and become a Phantom. This kills a lot of the show's dramatic tension and makes it so that the villains never succeed at any their goals [[spoiler:except for the BigBad and TheStarscream, both of whom had hidden agendas ''besides'' creating more Phantoms.]]
20th Sep '17 7:23:32 PM eroock
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{{Either Or Prophec|y}}ies use this trope with language along the lines of "If Dark Lord Genericide finds the [[BodyToJewel Ruby Heart]] he will bring about a thousand years of sorrow!" ''Rarely,'' the prophecy's "Or" has the heroic variant included: "... but if [[JustForFun/TheTVTropesCastList Sir Tropesalot]] finds the SwordOfPlotAdvancement, he will take up the crown and usher in a thousand years of peace!"

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{{Either Or Prophec|y}}ies [[EitherOrProphecy Either/Or Prophecies]] use this trope with language along the lines of "If Dark Lord Genericide finds the [[BodyToJewel Ruby Heart]] he will bring about a thousand years of sorrow!" ''Rarely,'' the prophecy's "Or" has the heroic variant included: "... but if [[JustForFun/TheTVTropesCastList Sir Tropesalot]] finds the SwordOfPlotAdvancement, he will take up the crown and usher in a thousand years of peace!"
10th Sep '17 11:40:08 AM Malady
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{{Either Or Prophec|y}}ies use this trope with language along the lines of "If Dark Lord Genericide finds the [[BodyToJewel Ruby Heart]] he will bring about a thousand years of sorrow!" ''Rarely,'' the prophecy's "Or" has the heroic variant included: "... but if [[TheTVTropesCastList Sir Tropesalot]] finds the SwordOfPlotAdvancement, he will take up the crown and usher in a thousand years of peace!"

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{{Either Or Prophec|y}}ies use this trope with language along the lines of "If Dark Lord Genericide finds the [[BodyToJewel Ruby Heart]] he will bring about a thousand years of sorrow!" ''Rarely,'' the prophecy's "Or" has the heroic variant included: "... but if [[TheTVTropesCastList [[JustForFun/TheTVTropesCastList Sir Tropesalot]] finds the SwordOfPlotAdvancement, he will take up the crown and usher in a thousand years of peace!"
7th Sep '17 6:56:54 AM Medinoc
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* [[OmnicidalManiac The sorcerer Dagon]], from the ''Roleplay/GlobalGuardiansPBEMUniverse'', pretty much had just one evil plan that he used every time he went up against the heroes: release the [[EldritchAbomination Great Old Ones]] from their extra-dimensional prison so they can rule the Earth once again as they did billions of years before those johnny-come-lately humans (who, by the way, will be served up en masse as hors' dourves at the "Happy Get Out of Extra-Dimensional Prison Day" party). He's been beaten every time so far... but he only has to win once.

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* [[OmnicidalManiac The sorcerer Dagon]], from the ''Roleplay/GlobalGuardiansPBEMUniverse'', pretty much had just one evil plan that he used every time he went up against the heroes: release the [[EldritchAbomination Great Old Ones]] from their extra-dimensional prison so they can rule the Earth once again as they did billions of years before those johnny-come-lately humans (who, by the way, will be served up en masse as hors' dourves hors d'œuvres at the "Happy Get Out of Extra-Dimensional Prison Day" party). He's been beaten every time so far... but he only has to win once.
10th Aug '17 10:18:28 PM Delphi
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* Coupled with NotSoHarmlessVillain and a dash of FridgeHorror in any given season of Power Rangers. As ridiculous looking as some of the monsters can be, they can still wreak massive amounts of destruction and the Megazord is the '''only''' thing that can stop them. If the Rangers lose, the villains just got rid of their only obstacle to world domination.
2nd Jul '17 8:38:21 AM justanid
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* A key point of Daniil Andreyev's ''Роза Мира'' (''Rose of the World''): If a world-wide dictatorship were to occur, it is likely that the ruler(s) would be [[DrunkWithPower unwilling to let go]] of their power. [[BadFuture Ever.]] And with ([[HeadInTheSandManagement eventually]]) no other states to oppose the sole superstate, only a CivilWar would offer any hope of change (and not much hope as it'd likely be a RevolvingDoorRevolution).[[labelnote:note]]One of Andreyev's solutions (in short) is a global federation requiring ''all'' its member nations to ally against any dictatorships that occur anywhere.[[/labelnote]]
11th Jun '17 5:37:25 PM Twiddler
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* In [[HisFaceAllRed Emily Carroll's]] collection of short stories ''Through the Woods,'' the final story 'In Conclusion' features a version of Red Riding Hood (implied to be a semi-autobiographical of Carroll herself as a child.) The girl passes through the woods without incident to her mother's house, and as she's settling down to sleep she remarks that she knew the wolf wouldn't find her.

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* In [[HisFaceAllRed Emily Carroll's]] Creator/EmilyCarroll's collection of short stories ''Through the Woods,'' ''ComicBook/ThroughTheWoods'', the final story 'In Conclusion' features a version of Red Riding Hood (implied to be a semi-autobiographical of Carroll herself as a child.) The girl passes through the woods without incident to her mother's house, and as she's settling down to sleep she remarks that she knew the wolf wouldn't find her.
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