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4th Apr '17 5:15:22 AM Korodzik
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* American Sign Language. Because some of the signs use hand shapes that look like the "devil's horns" sign.

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* The American Sign Language. Because Language is believed by some of to be Satanic because the signs use hand shapes that look like [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ILY_sign "I Love You" sign]] resembles the "devil's horns" sign.sign. Never mind that 1) the "devil's horns" sign is different from the ILY sign (it has the thumb towards the palm, rather than outstretched,) and 2) the sign isn't even an "official" part of the language, just a bit of slang made up by the ASL community themselves as a combination of the letters I, L and Y, so it has nothing to do with any supposed Satanic/masonic/Zionist etc. plot by the creators of ASL.
16th Mar '17 9:22:17 AM nombretomado
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-->-- [[TheMusicMan Harold Hill]], on why a pool table is serious trouble.

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-->-- [[TheMusicMan [[Theatre/TheMusicMan Harold Hill]], on why a pool table is serious trouble.
15th Feb '17 2:37:39 PM Hjortron18
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* ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''; some groups got upset at the writers of this movie because Loki called Black Widow a "mewling quim", which is an archaic British word for a [[CountyMatters certain female body part]]. That's right, they got angry because the ''bad guy'' of the movie (who you are ''not'' supposed to admire or emulate) used a chauvinistic term.

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* ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''; some groups got upset at the writers of this movie because Loki called Black Widow a "mewling quim", which is an archaic British word for a [[CountyMatters [[CountryMatters certain female body part]]. That's right, they got angry because the ''bad guy'' of the movie (who you are ''not'' supposed to admire or emulate) used a chauvinistic term.
15th Feb '17 2:35:21 PM Hjortron18
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15th Feb '17 2:16:07 PM StFan
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* ''[[UpToEleven Anime in general]]''-and many things associated with it-tends to be viewed as evil, since a lot of anime (children's anime, in particular) deals with magic and fantastic creatures. In many cases where anime or something similar is mentioned, you might hear someone refer to the characters as "Oriental demons" or that the work was "influenced by Japanese Paganism/Occultism". Not only are many of these cases nonsense or misinformed, but they carry some really annoying UnfortunateImplications (since they seem to imply that Japan is Satan's domain). Among these examples include ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' and ''{{Anime/YuGiOh}}'', which are mentioned under the Tabletop Games and Video Games sections below.
* ''Manga/BladeOfTheImmortal'': The main character, Manji, takes the "crux gammata" as both his name and his personal symbol. As a symbol of prosperity and good fortune, the swastika was widely used throughout the ancient world. The anti-Semitic or pro-Nazi meaning did not exist until 1910. Indeed, the swastika is still widely used in Hinduism (and Buddhism, to a lesser extent) as it was for thousands of years all over Eurasia before the Nazis appropriated it to their own use. Every volume of the US release explicitly explains right at the start that the symbol is ''not'' a Nazi swastika.
*** While certainly played straight often, the anti-Swastika sentiment is actually a subversion in many cases. A lot of people who do recognize when a Swastika is used regardless of the Nazi connotations of it will still want to limit its public perception, at least in their own communities, as Holocaust survivors may be traumatized by just seeing the image too much whether it was intended in its use or not. Even striped pajamas have caused issues occasionally, without anyone thinking they were anti-Semitic.

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* ''[[UpToEleven Anime in general]]''-and general]]'' -- and many things associated with it-tends it -- tends to be viewed as evil, since a lot of anime (children's anime, in particular) deals with magic and fantastic creatures. In many cases where anime or something similar is mentioned, you might hear someone refer to the characters as "Oriental demons" or that the work was "influenced by Japanese Paganism/Occultism". Not only are many of these cases nonsense or misinformed, but they carry some really annoying UnfortunateImplications (since they seem to imply that Japan is Satan's domain). Among these examples include ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' and ''{{Anime/YuGiOh}}'', ''Anime/YuGiOh'', which are mentioned under the Tabletop Games and Video Games sections below.
* ''Manga/BladeOfTheImmortal'': The main character, Manji, takes the "crux gammata" as both his name and his personal symbol. As a symbol of prosperity and good fortune, the swastika was widely used throughout the ancient world. The anti-Semitic or pro-Nazi meaning did not exist until 1910. Indeed, the swastika is still widely used in Hinduism (and Buddhism, to a lesser extent) as it was for thousands of years all over Eurasia before the Nazis appropriated it to their own use. Every volume of the US release explicitly explains right at the start that the symbol is ''not'' a Nazi swastika.
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swastika. While certainly played straight often, the anti-Swastika sentiment is actually a subversion in many cases. A lot of people who do recognize when a Swastika is used regardless of the Nazi connotations of it will still want to limit its public perception, at least in their own communities, as Holocaust survivors may be traumatized by just seeing the image too much whether it was intended in its use or not. Even striped pajamas have caused issues occasionally, without anyone thinking they were anti-Semitic.



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* ''Film/TheAvengers''; some groups got upset at the writers of this movie because Loki called Black Widow a "mewling quim", which is an archaic British word for a [[CountyMatters certain female body part]]. That's right, they got angry because the ''bad guy'' of the movie (who you are ''not'' supposed to admire or emulate) used a chauvinistic term.

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* ''Film/TheAvengers''; ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''; some groups got upset at the writers of this movie because Loki called Black Widow a "mewling quim", which is an archaic British word for a [[CountyMatters certain female body part]]. That's right, they got angry because the ''bad guy'' of the movie (who you are ''not'' supposed to admire or emulate) used a chauvinistic term.



** The series contains "witches". Centuries ago, "witch" strictly meant someone who made a DealWithTheDevil; therefore, even though the modern connotation of "witch" is simply "one who can do magic" and ''has nothing to do with Satanic origins'', the magic must be Satanic and encouraging kids to pursue the same! The sad thing is that even a half-close reading of the series shows many parallels with Christian doctrine and the Gospels, especially by ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows]]'', but the MoralGuardians just don't know when to stop. One criticized Voldemort's drinking of unicorn blood, claiming that the book was teaching children that they could gain immortality by drinking the blood of something that wasn't Jesus. Of course, they didn't mention the parts where it's explained that drinking unicorn blood is an atrocious thing to do and that while it will stop you from dying, you will live a cursed half-life.[[note]]John Granger's extensive research into the symbolism of ''Harry Potter'' goes a different route, pointing out that the unicorn has long been a symbol of Christ Himself... overthrowing that "something other than Christ" claim and furthermore nailing Voldy's act by calling up Paul's comments on "drinking [communion] in an unworthy manner."[[/note]]

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** The series contains "witches". Centuries ago, "witch" strictly meant someone who made a DealWithTheDevil; therefore, even though the modern connotation of "witch" is simply "one who can do magic" and ''has nothing to do with Satanic origins'', the magic must be Satanic and encouraging kids to pursue the same! The sad thing is that even a half-close reading of the series shows many parallels with Christian doctrine and the Gospels, especially by ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows]]'', but the MoralGuardians just don't know when to stop. stop.
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One criticized Voldemort's drinking of unicorn blood, claiming that the book was teaching children that they could gain immortality by drinking the blood of something that wasn't Jesus. Of course, they didn't mention the parts where it's explained that drinking unicorn blood is an atrocious thing to do and that while it will stop you from dying, you will live a cursed half-life.[[note]]John Granger's extensive research into the symbolism of ''Harry Potter'' goes a different route, pointing out that the unicorn has long been a symbol of Christ Himself... overthrowing that "something other than Christ" claim and furthermore nailing Voldy's act by calling up Paul's comments on "drinking [communion] in an unworthy manner."[[/note]]



** There were actually quite a few kids that started getting into the occult after Harry Potter got really popular, but if anything the parents were to blame rather than the books. And anyone who actually knows anything about occultism quickly realises that ''Harry Potter'' magic is a useless guide anyways.

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** There were actually quite a few kids that started getting into the occult after Harry Potter ''Harry Potter'' got really popular, but if anything the parents were to blame rather than the books. And anyone who actually knows anything about occultism quickly realises realizes that ''Harry Potter'' magic is a useless guide anyways.



** In the original edition of his anti-''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' (see below) tract "Dark Dungeons", [[ComicBook/ChickTracts Jack Chick]] claimed that the works of Creator/CSLewis and Creator/JRRTolkien, which ''D&D'' was based on, were... you guessed it. This is hilarious because Mr. Lewis was a professional Christian writer and apologist; one of his more famous works was ''TheScrewtapeLetters'', in which he details the methods for combating Satan's influence, and the ''Narnia'' books are today treated as a [[TheMoralSubstitute Christian substitute]] for ''Harry Potter'' by some parents. Tolkien was also a devout Christian, and was supposedly responsible for Lewis' conversion. However, it's important to note here that Tolkien was a ''Catholic''--Chick (like many fundamentalist Protestants) views Catholicism as not only un-Christian, but a flat-out Satanic deception, frequently using the Catholic Church as the big bogeyman in his tracts and conspiracy theories. Telling Chick that Tolkien was a Catholic, and that he was responsible for Lewis' conversion, would probably only strengthen his negative views of both men's work.
* Jack Chick is hardly the only one to denounce Tolkien as "Satanic"--see [[http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/tract11.html this essay]] for an example.
** Interestingly, ''the Lord of the Rings books themselves take this stance''. All 'magic' is either a product of the villains or the Istari, who are literally Angels sent to guide the mortals against said villains. Everything else, the narrative and the characters take extreme pains to describe as ''not'' being magic, merely very skilled creations or natural talents, to the point where Galadriel gets offended when her Mirror is described as magical.

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** In the original edition of his anti-''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' (see below) tract "Dark Dungeons", [[ComicBook/ChickTracts Jack Chick]] claimed that the works of Creator/CSLewis and Creator/JRRTolkien, which ''D&D'' was based on, were... you guessed it. This is hilarious because Mr. Lewis was a professional Christian writer and apologist; one of his more famous works was ''TheScrewtapeLetters'', ''Literature/TheScrewtapeLetters'', in which he details the methods for combating Satan's influence, and the ''Narnia'' books are today treated as a [[TheMoralSubstitute Christian substitute]] for ''Harry Potter'' by some parents. Tolkien was also a devout Christian, and was supposedly responsible for Lewis' conversion. However, it's important to note here that Tolkien was a ''Catholic''--Chick ''Catholic'' -- Chick (like many fundamentalist Protestants) views Catholicism as not only un-Christian, but a flat-out Satanic deception, frequently using the Catholic Church as the big bogeyman in his tracts and conspiracy theories. Telling Chick that Tolkien was a Catholic, and that he was responsible for Lewis' Lewis's conversion, would probably only strengthen his negative views of both men's work.
* Jack Chick is hardly the only one to denounce Tolkien as "Satanic"--see [[http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/tract11.html this essay]] for an example. \n** Interestingly, ''the Lord of the Rings books themselves take this stance''. All 'magic' "magic" is either a product of the villains or the Istari, who are literally Angels sent to guide the mortals against said villains. Everything else, the narrative and the characters take extreme pains to describe as ''not'' being magic, merely very skilled creations or natural talents, to the point where Galadriel gets offended when her Mirror is described as magical.



* ''Series/{{Teletubbies}}'': The purple one with the triangle and handbag is obviously proof that the evil gay liberals are forcing their godless agenda on our innocent children.[[note]]This "theory" was actually in reaction to reports and commentary by left-leaning sites like Salon.com that Tinky-Winky was being celebrated in the gay community as an "icon"--a la Judy Garland. But then... Judy wasn't gay, either.[[/note]] He also wore a skirt at times that the other male refused to wear (strangely, it seems this was never brought up by either side).



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* ''Series/{{Teletubbies}}'': The purple one with the triangle and handbag is obviously proof that the evil gay liberals are forcing their godless agenda on our innocent children.[[note]]This "theory" was actually in reaction to reports and commentary by left-leaning sites like Salon.com that Tinky-Winky was being celebrated in the gay community as an "icon"--a la Judy Garland. But then... Judy wasn't gay, either.[[/note]] He also wore a skirt at times that the other male refused to wear (strangely, it seems this was never brought up by either side).
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** This has caused other game companies (like ''{{Rifts}}'' publisher Palladium Books) to place a disclaimer in all their books stating that their books [[ThisIsAWorkOfFiction are works of fiction]] and they don't condone the supernatural or occultism.
** Some books actually ''do'' include ceremonial and RitualMagic information. The ''entire'' Goetia (Lesser Key of Solomon) made it into ''DragonQuest'' in 1986. Minus the sigils, fortunately.

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** This has caused other game companies (like ''{{Rifts}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Rifts}}'' publisher Palladium Books) to place a disclaimer in all their books stating that their books [[ThisIsAWorkOfFiction are works of fiction]] and they don't condone the supernatural or occultism.
** Some books actually ''do'' include ceremonial and RitualMagic information. The ''entire'' Goetia (Lesser Key of Solomon) made it into ''DragonQuest'' ''VideoGame/DragonQuest'' in 1986. Minus the sigils, fortunately.



** For that matter, Tarot cards were originally just playing cards, until bored rich people in the 19th Century decided to pretend to be wizards. Now, the cards themselves are evil and magical.
* ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}'' was, in the 90's, accused of promoting communism. Another complaint by Christian groups was that it allowed people to play as a MugglePower [[FantasticRacism anti-mutant secret society]] dedicated to wiping out every mutant in Alpha Complex despite being [[BoomerangBigot mutants themselves]]. This is true, but said group is portrayed as completely evil and are deliberately made to invoke Nazi-esque imagery. They are in no way the heroes of Paranoia - there ''are'' [[BlackAndBlackMorality no heroes]] in Paranoia.

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** * For that matter, Tarot cards were originally just playing cards, until bored rich people in the 19th Century decided to pretend to be wizards. Now, the cards themselves are evil and magical.
* ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}'' was, in the 90's, '90s, accused of promoting communism. Another complaint by Christian groups was that it allowed people to play as a MugglePower [[FantasticRacism anti-mutant secret society]] dedicated to wiping out every mutant in Alpha Complex despite being [[BoomerangBigot mutants themselves]]. This is true, but said group is portrayed as completely evil and are deliberately made to invoke Nazi-esque imagery. They are in no way the heroes of Paranoia - ''Paranoia'' -- there ''are'' [[BlackAndBlackMorality no heroes]] in Paranoia.''Paranoia''.






* {{Exploited}} by Veronica Cale in a Franchise/WonderWoman StoryArc. Wonder Woman (at this time ambassador of Themyscira) had published a book from which Veronica took a phrase out of context and used it to send the MoralGuardians after her.
* Happened in a fashion in a ''Comicbook/{{Batman}}'' StoryArc revolving around the publishing of [[FictionalDocument a Batman comic]] within the Franchise/DCUniverse, which is a ridiculously over-the-top DarkerAndEdgier interpretation of Batman involving the occult. (Bruce Wayne couldn't get them to stop as he obviously never copyrighted Batman.) A SerialKiller calling himself "Batman" proceeded to kill those whom he perceived as "sinners", claiming that it's what Batman would've done. The comic book writer stopped making any more by the third issue, claiming he wouldn't bear the responsibility for any further killings.

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* {{Exploited}} by Veronica Cale in a Franchise/WonderWoman ''Franchise/WonderWoman'' StoryArc. Wonder Woman (at this time ambassador of Themyscira) had published a book from which Veronica took a phrase out of context and used it to send the MoralGuardians after her.
* Happened in a fashion in a ''Comicbook/{{Batman}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Batman}}'' StoryArc revolving around the publishing of [[FictionalDocument a Batman comic]] within the Franchise/DCUniverse, which is a ridiculously over-the-top DarkerAndEdgier interpretation of Batman involving the occult. (Bruce Wayne couldn't get them to stop as he obviously never copyrighted Batman.) A SerialKiller calling himself "Batman" proceeded to kill those whom he perceived as "sinners", claiming that it's what Batman would've done. The comic book writer stopped making any more by the third issue, claiming he wouldn't bear the responsibility for any further killings.



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-->'''Brad''': Yes, I can see how you would have misinterpreted the line "You've got to change your evil ways."

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-->'''Brad''': -->'''Brad:''' Yes, I can see how you would have misinterpreted the line "You've got to change your evil ways."



* In ''ASwiftlyTiltingPlanet'', a MagicalNativeAmerican is depicted as giving birth in complete silence, but the white townspeople ''expect'' women to [[ScreamingBirth scream during labor]]. Said townspeople happen to be Puritans at the height of the American witchcraft scare, so it's treated by the townspeople as a sign of devilry.
** Considering the last time someone killed a "witch" in the Navajo Nation was ''1993'' (at least the last time the killer went to trial, anyway), [[RealityIsUnrealistic many Native Americans would probably agree about the witchcraft]].
*** But the signs are different.
*** And the Navajo are on the opposite side of the country from any Native Americans early colonists like the Puritans would have encountered!

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* In ''ASwiftlyTiltingPlanet'', ''Literature/ASwiftlyTiltingPlanet'', a MagicalNativeAmerican is depicted as giving birth in complete silence, but the white townspeople ''expect'' women to [[ScreamingBirth scream during labor]]. Said townspeople happen to be Puritans at the height of the American witchcraft scare, so it's treated by the townspeople as a sign of devilry.
** Considering the last time someone killed a "witch" in the Navajo Nation was ''1993'' (at least the last time the killer went to trial, anyway), [[RealityIsUnrealistic many Native Americans would probably agree about the witchcraft]].
*** But the signs are different.
*** And the Navajo are on the opposite side of the country from any Native Americans early colonists like the Puritans would have encountered!
devilry.



* The Imperial Order in the ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'' claims this about wizards and sorceresses in particular, but also in general about anyone who is better than anyone else at anything. They are not nice people. It also doesn't stop them from ''employing'' these wizards and sorceresses, either.
** A mob tries this on Zedd. He stokes their fears of him until they all run away screaming. How? By asking them to explain why they're afraid of him.

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* The Imperial Order in the ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'' claims this about wizards and sorceresses in particular, but also in general about anyone who is better than anyone else at anything. They are not nice people. It also doesn't stop them from ''employing'' these wizards and sorceresses, either.
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either. A mob tries this on Zedd. He stokes their fears of him until they all run away screaming. How? By asking them to explain why they're afraid of him.



* The Whiteadders from ''Series/{{Blackadder}}'' are devout followers of this trope, believing that everything from mashed turnips to ''[[FelonyMisdemeanor sitting on chairs]]'' is the work of the devil.
** They still giggle when they find a turnip that looks like a "thingy". [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Because they also had raw turnip on their wedding night]].

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* The Whiteadders from ''Series/{{Blackadder}}'' are devout followers of this trope, believing that everything from mashed turnips to ''[[FelonyMisdemeanor sitting on chairs]]'' is the work of the devil.
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devil. They still giggle when they find a turnip that looks like a "thingy". [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Because they also had raw turnip on their wedding night]].



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* In ''TheMusicMan'', Harold Hill convinces an entire town that a pool table is a tool of Satan to corrupt their children. He lists several "symptoms" that their children are being corrupted, which include a few things that would actually be worrisome if they happened, but also a few which were perfectly normal and harmless behaviors for teenage boys. (Like using slang words such as "swell".) In the end, he boils it down to a catchy little chant that runs on circular logic: "We've got trouble with a capital T, and that rhymes with P, and that stands for pool!" Just like in many real-life cases, this is a ploy to get the gullible townspeople to buy something: Hill proclaims that the way to save this town from falling into the clutches of evil is to start a boys' band... and Hill just happens to be a music professor (a fake one, at least).

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* In ''TheMusicMan'', ''Theatre/TheMusicMan'', Harold Hill convinces an entire town that a pool table is a tool of Satan to corrupt their children. He lists several "symptoms" that their children are being corrupted, which include a few things that would actually be worrisome if they happened, but also a few which were perfectly normal and harmless behaviors for teenage boys. (Like using slang words such as "swell".) In the end, he boils it down to a catchy little chant that runs on circular logic: "We've got trouble with a capital T, and that rhymes with P, and that stands for pool!" Just like in many real-life cases, this is a ploy to get the gullible townspeople to buy something: Hill proclaims that the way to save this town from falling into the clutches of evil is to start a boys' band... and Hill just happens to be a music professor (a fake one, at least).



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* ''Film/TheAvengers''; some groups got upset at the writers of this movie because Loki called Black Widow a "mewling quim", which is an archaic British word for a [[CountyMatters certain female body part]]. That's right, they got angry because the ''bad guy'' of the movie (who you are ''not'' supposed to admire or emulate) used a chauvinistic term.
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* Kenner got [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVV7nLNRcW4 a lot of angry mail]] from some feminist groups when they put out a Slave Leia (Leia in the metal bikini from ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'') action figure (one that it seemed every fan in creation had been pleading with them to make for the past year). Carrie Fisher herself [[http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/watch/carrie-fisher-talks-about-the-controversy-over-slave-leia-costume/vi-AAg5b3T had to set everyone straight]], reminding them that Leia had been captured by a "giant slug" who forced her to wear it until [[LaserGuidedKarma she used the chain to strangle him]].
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5th Jan '17 11:54:00 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Anything and everything that is taller than it is wide [[FreudWasRight is a phallic symbol]]. No exceptions. The same goes for anything that is famous for being larger than its peers. And if it's shorter than it's wide, you just turn it on its side...

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* Anything and everything that is taller than it is wide [[FreudWasRight is a phallic symbol]].symbol. No exceptions. The same goes for anything that is famous for being larger than its peers. And if it's shorter than it's wide, you just turn it on its side...
4th Dec '16 11:06:01 AM Sakubara
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* In the late 90's, the main Scapegoat was Music/MarilynManson especially during the Music/AntichristSuperstar era with many claiming that the Antichrist refers to Manson himself. Ignoring how this is not at all the case since it is a concept album, it wouldn't make sense anyway since it [[CriticalResearchFailure contradicts pretty everything]] in the Literature/BookOfRevelation anyway.

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* In the late 90's, the main Scapegoat was Music/MarilynManson especially during the Music/AntichristSuperstar era with many claiming that the Antichrist refers to Manson himself. Ignoring how this is not at all isn't really the case since it is a concept album, ConceptAlbum about a fictional person, it wouldn't make sense anyway since it [[CriticalResearchFailure contradicts pretty much everything]] in the Literature/BookOfRevelation anyway.
25th Nov '16 8:44:03 AM JamesAustin
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->''"We've got trouble, right here in River City, with a capital T, and that rhymes with P, and that stands for 'pool!'"''\\
-- [[TheMusicMan Harold Hill]], on why a pool table is serious trouble.

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->''"We've got trouble, right here in River City, with a capital T, and that rhymes with P, and that stands for 'pool!'"''\\
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'pool!'"''
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9th Nov '16 11:28:53 AM Sakubara
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* In the late 90's, the main Scapegoat was Music/MarilynManson especially during the Music/AntichristSuperstar era with many claiming that the Antichrist refers to Manson himself. Ignoring how this is not at all the case since it is a concept album, it wouldn't make sense anyway since it [[CriticalResearchFailure contradicts pretty everything]] in the Literature/BookOfRevelation anyway.
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