9th Apr '18 8:20:26 PM

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* In some cases, it comes off as almost YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm - the way individuals find the material easy to comprehend comes off as almost ''entirely'' alien or else to someone who knows it a different way.

** One good example is the classic "Two trains" problem (in which two trains traveling at different speeds go in different directions and the problem asks when they meet). There are two ways to solve it - either play with the simple physics formula (Distance equals Rate or speed multiplied by time) so that you instead solve for the time or the rate; or you use another formula in which you take the two speeds of the train, have them be multiplied by x, then solve for x by adding the speed together and then dividing it from the distance between the two points. And yet another (that's less popular, especially amongst math teachers) is to brute force it and count how far they travel in an hour, add it up until the distances equal the total distance given in the problem then see where they are close or to say "They meet when the first train is ''x'' miles from point A and the second train is''y'' miles from Point ''b''." As anyone who had taken math can tell you... when a problem has two or more ways to solve it, some people get marked off for "not doing it right" even though it makes sense ''to them'' and they got the right answer... of course this causes them to hate math.

*** This is actually PlayedForLaughs in a chapter of ''Literature/WaysideSchool''. One kid, Joe, cannot count, so Mrs. Jewls tries to teach him to count. However, every time he counts in a ''radically'' incorrect order, but finishes off with the ''exact number'', prompting him to say, for examle "there are four potatoes" and Mrs. Jewls says "No, there are four!"

** One good example is the classic "Two trains" problem (in which two trains traveling at different speeds go in different directions and the problem asks when they meet). There are two ways to solve it - either play with the simple physics formula (Distance equals Rate or speed multiplied by time) so that you instead solve for the time or the rate; or you use another formula in which you take the two speeds of the train, have them be multiplied by x, then solve for x by adding the speed together and then dividing it from the distance between the two points. And yet another (that's less popular, especially amongst math teachers) is to brute force it and count how far they travel in an hour, add it up until the distances equal the total distance given in the problem then see where they are close or to say "They meet when the first train is ''x'' miles from point A and the second train is''y'' miles from Point ''b''." As anyone who had taken math can tell you... when a problem has two or more ways to solve it, some people get marked off for "not doing it right" even though it makes sense ''to them'' and they got the right answer... of course this causes them to hate math.

*** This is actually PlayedForLaughs in a chapter of ''Literature/WaysideSchool''. One kid, Joe, cannot count, so Mrs. Jewls tries to teach him to count. However, every time he counts in a ''radically'' incorrect order, but finishes off with the ''exact number'', prompting him to say, for examle "there are four potatoes" and Mrs. Jewls says "No, there are four!"

26th Mar '18 10:25:09 AM

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** In ''Dragon Ball'', Chiaotzu was very weak at basic math, and since he needed to use his hands to perform his telekinetic attacks, Krillin was able to distract him by yelling some simple equations at him, forcing Chiaotzu to use his hands to count, and giving Krillin the opening he needed to [[RingOut knock Chiaotzu out of the ring]]. Chiaotzu's master then regretted neglecting that part of his student's education.

9th Mar '18 9:49:51 PM

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' episode "Him Diddle Riddle", Bubbles claims she ''hates'' math; this is contradicted in a later episode where she claims she likes it (but Buttercup does not). [[note]] [[spoiler: Buttercup tests into Honors Math in [[WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls2016 the reboot]], though.]] [[\note]]

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' episode "Him Diddle Riddle", Bubbles claims she ''hates'' math; this is contradicted in a later episode where she claims she likes it (but Buttercup does not). ~~[[note]] ~~[[spoiler: Buttercup tests into Honors Math in [[WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls2016 the reboot]], though.~~]] [[\note]]~~]]

9th Mar '18 9:47:25 PM

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' episode "Him Diddle Riddle", Bubbles claims she ''hates'' math; this is contradicted in a later episode where she claims she likes it (but Buttercup does not). [[note]] [[spoiler: Buttercup tests into Honors Math in [[''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls2016'' the reboot]], though.]] [\note]

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' episode "Him Diddle Riddle", Bubbles claims she ''hates'' math; this is contradicted in a later episode where she claims she likes it (but Buttercup does not). [[note]] [[spoiler: Buttercup tests into Honors Math in ~~[[''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls2016'' ~~[[WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls2016 the reboot]], though.]] ~~[\note]~~[[\note]]

9th Mar '18 9:45:27 PM

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' episode "Him Diddle Riddle", Bubbles claims she ''hates'' math; this is contradicted in a later episode where she claims she likes it (but Buttercup does not).

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' episode "Him Diddle Riddle", Bubbles claims she ''hates'' math; this is contradicted in a later episode where she claims she likes it (but Buttercup does not). [[note]] [[spoiler: Buttercup tests into Honors Math in [[''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls2016'' the reboot]], though.]] [\note]

5th Mar '18 9:38:02 PM

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* ''ThousandArms'' has the "Math Book" as a [[DatingSim gift toward the girls]], many of whom are clearly not happy to accept it.

* In ''Videogame/PlanetSide 1'', the Scorpion siege weapon system became a universal ScrappyWeapon because it required trigonometry to use; the player would aim somewhere, lock the detonation range, then aim it a few degrees above of their target, then fire the rocket so that it would detonate and rain shrapnel on the enemy. In practice, it would always overshoot, undershoot, or detonate too low or too high unless you used trigonometry.

* In ''Videogame/PlanetSide 1'', the Scorpion siege weapon system became a universal ScrappyWeapon because it required trigonometry to use; the player would aim somewhere, lock the detonation range, then aim it a few degrees above of their target, then fire the rocket so that it would detonate and rain shrapnel on the enemy. In practice, it would always overshoot, undershoot, or detonate too low or too high unless you used trigonometry.

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* ~~''ThousandArms'' ~~''VideoGame/ThousandArms'' has the "Math Book" as a [[DatingSim gift toward the girls]], many of whom are clearly not happy to accept it.

* In~~''Videogame/PlanetSide ~~''VideoGame/PlanetSide 1'', the Scorpion siege weapon system became a universal ScrappyWeapon because it required trigonometry to use; the player would aim somewhere, lock the detonation range, then aim it a few degrees above of their target, then fire the rocket so that it would detonate and rain shrapnel on the enemy. In practice, it would always overshoot, undershoot, or detonate too low or too high unless you used trigonometry.

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4th Mar '18 3:38:12 PM

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* The ''Franchise/StarWars'' [[StarWarsCustomizableCardGame Customizable Card Game]] has Brainiac.[[note]][[ContinuityPorn His canon name is Pons Limbic]][[/note]] Brainiac's destiny number is pi. And his power is sqrt(3(x-y)+2(a-b)+pi), where x is the cards in your opponent's hand, y is the cards in your hand, a is the number of Force icons on your opponent's side, and b is the number of Force icons on your side. And this in a game where life totals are always integers. The fact that you're taking the square root makes this card effectively useless, especially if you're in the lead by an amount such that 3(x-y) + 2(a-b) < -pi; that gives him ''imaginary'' power.

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* The ''Franchise/StarWars'' ~~[[StarWarsCustomizableCardGame ~~[[TabletopGame/StarWarsCustomizableCardGame Customizable Card Game]] has Brainiac.[[note]][[ContinuityPorn His canon name is Pons Limbic]][[/note]] Brainiac's destiny number is pi. And his power is sqrt(3(x-y)+2(a-b)+pi), where x is the cards in your opponent's hand, y is the cards in your hand, a is the number of Force icons on your opponent's side, and b is the number of Force icons on your side. And this in a game where life totals are always integers. The fact that you're taking the square root makes this card effectively useless, especially if you're in the lead by an amount such that 3(x-y) + 2(a-b) < -pi; that gives him ''imaginary'' power.

4th Mar '18 1:56:37 PM

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* ''StandAndDeliver'' shows that learning calculus at Garfield High School is every bit as challenging as the larger goal of escaping from poverty, with one student even having a HeroicBSOD over it.

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* ~~''StandAndDeliver'' ~~''Film/StandAndDeliver'' shows that learning calculus at Garfield High School is every bit as challenging as the larger goal of escaping from poverty, with one student even having a HeroicBSOD over it.

22nd Feb '18 4:33:12 PM

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** Even if you have dyscalculia (which isn't all that uncommon), it is possible to learn math, however it will be harder and probably take longer than someone who doesn't have the disability. A good teacher helps.

21st Jan '18 3:11:14 PM

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* In a non-fiction example, this trope helps explain why actress-turned-mathematician Danica [=McKeller=] (yes, Winnie Cooper from ''TheWonderYears'') authored three books aimed at middle-school-aged girls to encourage developing their maths skills; "Math Doesn't Suck", "Kiss My Math" and "Hot X: Algebra Exposed".

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* In a non-fiction example, this trope helps explain why actress-turned-mathematician Danica [=McKeller=] (yes, Winnie Cooper from ~~''TheWonderYears'') ~~''Series/TheWonderYears'') authored three books aimed at middle-school-aged girls to encourage developing their maths skills; "Math Doesn't Suck", "Kiss My Math" and "Hot X: Algebra Exposed".

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